Make full time income with long tail authority sites part 2

by nest28
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You might want to read this first how i-make-full-time-adsense-income-without-ranking-keywords .

First let me answer some questions because judging from some of the comments I've seen you guys don't like to read long threads lol.

1.Do you need a blogger blog for this to work? the answer is no, I use blogger because I like it.

2.How long does it take these sites to start earning? 4 to 6 weeks but once I reach a hundred pages they make 100.00 plus a month, also you could go after 2 and 3 words in your niche and make more money.

3.Should I buy exact match domains? no , incorporate your main keyword in the name but keep in general like pet questions .com

4. What is my backlinking method? Here are some software the I own but barely use amr,seo link robot, auto comment bomb ,auto backlink bomb. I occasionally use these all together on my sites sparingly. Other times` will buy a fiverr gig, and on my last site I use matt laclear's article drip feed service.


Here is my last site
the psychiatric nurse practitioner I will never make a site like this again, I made so many mistakes it aint funny. If I wanted to spend a lot of time backlinking to the number one spot this site would be perfect, but for my method it's a failure. I said before that this particular site was different from my other 15, because I put actual exact match article titles as my first article instead of my usual long tail questions. I had plan on build this site in reverse by focusing on keywords with a couple thousand searches a month than adding the long tail.


This site has also prove my theory that a keyword such as psychiatric nurse practitioner with 2,400 exact local searches does not have enough searches to make a income on long tail alone.



Let me say that again , keywords with low search count will not make you money from long tail traffic alone.


Until this morning my original plan was to

step 1 build a site using the lowest competition keywords in that niche which also meant going after keywords with low local search count between 200 and 600 .

step 2 rank those low competition keywords only so I could get information from google analytics to make long tail articles, honestly I wouldn't call it long tail keywords because they are sentences not long tail keywords.


Last night while talking to my girlfriend I explained my theory that I can only make sites that rely on long tail traffic if they are centered around a very popular keyword.


Now out of nowhere this morning it hit me, that I had been doing this the wrong way ranking sites for low competition keywords just to get the google analytics was wrong.


Hello people can you say yahoo answers , I put in the keyword psychiatric nurse practitioner and guess how many questions came up, only 129 so building site out in hopes of making money on long tail traffic would never have happen, now lets put in a one word phrase like cats , guess how many questions there were 937273. Which lets me know that if I wanted to make a authority site on cats I could get all my post title from yahoo answers and with 937273 question to work with the skies the limit.

Basically go after keywords that are popular because that means plenty of people have questions on the matter. Don't worry about competition because
how many sites will have a post title like this "How many cats do you think a person can have before people start to question their mental health?" a actual
question from yahoo answers btw.

Also I hear people say why not just make 1000 word articles and try to rank for a bunch of keywords. Because 90 percent of my traffic comes from people typing in a question that is closely related to one of my post title not a snippet of a long article that may only be relevant in some small way.

Edit: Look for keywords that have at least 2500 results in yahoo answers I have put all the keywords I based my sites on into yahoo answers 2500 was the minimum.

This method is new to me I never used yahoo before this morning for this process, also please don't use the exact questions on yahoo, reword them so your title is similar but unique.

All my other sites fit this criteria but I never noticed I needed to build sites around keywords with a lot of traffic until now.
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  • Profile picture of the author lazydaisy
    Hi Nest, I read your first post and I would like to start on a website like you have done. I wanted to make sure first that I understand the process before I begin. I have listed below a simple list to begin with. Please look it over and let me know if I am missing something.

    1) Find a high paying niche.
    2) Write articles around the niche with questions with keyword in titles.
    3) Write and post articles the same way, using lower search term keywords.
    4) Populate the website with useful articles, people are looking for answers to.
    5) Have atleast or up to 100 articles per website.
    6) Add adsense code as soon as you see some kind of traffic daily.

    Let me know if there is something I am missing or have not covered. I am not sure yet about backlinking to the domain, I am not sure what methods would work.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    It's interesting you think you can't find enough long-tail topics to write content around on the subject of "psychiatric nurse practitioner" - when you look at the BROAD match for that term, you get more like 18,000 searches, i.e. on similar or related keywords etc. I bet you COULD do a lot more in a niche with that many searches, but maybe you are right and it is worth looking for a broader term. If you look at "psychiatric nurse", that is not so narrow and the broad match is almost 50,000. My thinking is that you can go for as large a volume as you like, the competition just doesn't matter that much because you can just keep "mopping up" those long-tails.

    I have a very similar process to you actually (WSO coming soon ).
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by lazydaisy View Post

      Hi Nest, I read your first post and I would like to start on a website like you have done. I wanted to make sure first that I understand the process before I begin. I have listed below a simple list to begin with. Please look it over and let me know if I am missing something.

      1) Find a high paying niche.
      2) Write articles around the niche with questions with keyword in titles.
      3) Write and post articles the same way, using lower search term keywords.
      4) Populate the website with useful articles, people are looking for answers to.
      5) Have atleast or up to 100 articles per website.
      6) Add adsense code as soon as you see some kind of traffic daily.

      Let me know if there is something I am missing or have not covered. I am not sure yet about backlinking to the domain, I am not sure what methods would work.

      Thanks
      step 7 check yahoo answers for ideas for articles

      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      It's interesting you think you can't find enough long-tail topics to write content around on the subject of "psychiatric nurse practitioner" - when you look at the BROAD match for that term, you get more like 18,000 searches, i.e. on similar or related keywords etc. I bet you COULD do a lot more in a niche with that many searches, but maybe you are right and it is worth looking for a broader term. If you look at "psychiatric nurse", that is not so narrow and the broad match is almost 50,000. My thinking is that you can go for as large a volume as you like, the competition just doesn't matter that much because you can just keep "mopping up" those long-tails.

      I have a very similar process to you actually (WSO coming soon ).
      lol, Your totally right I started thinking about keywords like nurse practitioner which also gets plenty of searches and when I checked yahoo answers a little more than 5000 results came up. I'm constantly changing my mind or having ideas, I can barely keep up with myself.:rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Here are some exact stats from one of my sites to give you a idea of how much money you can make off long tail traffic and also how much traffic it takes.


    site overview from the last 30 days


    2,038 people visited this site

    92.89%Search Traffic
    1,893 Visits
    2.11%Referral Traffic
    43 Visits
    5.00%Direct Traffic



    $116.90 AdSense Revenue for last 30 days
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    • Profile picture of the author spring flower
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Here are some exact stats from one of my sites to give you a idea of how much money you can make off long tail traffic and also how much traffic it takes.


      site overview from the last 30 days


      2,038 people visited this site

      92.89%Search Traffic
      1,893 Visits
      2.11%Referral Traffic
      43 Visits
      5.00%Direct Traffic



      $116.90 AdSense Revenue for last 30 days
      Hi Nest,
      The stats above are for 100 article site?
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Nice post.

    I think too many people are afraid of long tail keywords because of the potential to do "too much" work for smaller results. But you can rank a long-tail without much effort. It's not hard banging out 5-10 articles a day targeted @ long-tail keywords. I'd rather be spending my time creating content vs trying to rank. (Endless backlinking, trying everything I can to get to the top half of page 1, etc.)

    Obviously backlinks are still important. But most 100-1,000 "exact" match keywords are pretty easy to rank for. Do all of your research up-front, make a list of the terms you want to go after, and get to work. You can create some pretty large sites this way that rank for all sorts of long-tail keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author NaturalHealth
    I appreciate you taking the time to make both of these guides. They've kind of reshaped my view on what's possible without keyword ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author UW
    this is really an interesting concept with going after long tail keywords. opened my eyes. thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Couldn't you just use a combination of both Yahoo Answers and what you see in Google Analytics?

    Also, I would guess that questions like: "How many cats do you think a person can have before people start to question their mental health" would maybe be searched for a couple of times a month at best so would you still write articles for topics like that or would you target questions that you had a 'feeling' got more searches?

    Or would you do both?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Couldn't you just use a combination of both Yahoo Answers and what you see in Google Analytics?

      Also, I would guess that questions like: "How many cats do you think a person can have before people start to question their mental health" would maybe be searched for a couple of times a month at best so would you still write articles for topics like that or would you target questions that you had a 'feeling' got more searches?

      Or would you do both?
      Most of the articles that I have written probably get 50 or less people a month. It's the fact that you have a hundred such articles that makes it worth it. Yes you can use analytics and yahoo answers take your pick. I have even taken info from analytics and posted it as a comment on my blogs and how those comments rank lol.

      Edit: even if each article only brings in 25 people a month, having a 100 such articles will equal 2500 visits.
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      • Profile picture of the author Legit SEO
        No offense, but I'll stick with my method of ranking 1 page that makes $50 per day instead of writing 100 articles that only makes $100 a month. Seems like you are doing a ton of writing for not much reward. You could even sell 100 articles per month and make $500+ instead.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by talkmeow View Post

          No offense, but I'll stick with my method of ranking 1 page that makes $50 per day instead of writing 100 articles that only makes $100 a month. Seems like you are doing a ton of writing for not much reward. You could even sell 100 articles per month and make $500+ instead.
          No offense taken, There are plenty of different methods I chose the one best for me. Besides I like building big sites that actually help people ,its a win win situation for me. The visitors get what they came for and I get paid.

          One page sites offer little to no information or value at least the ones that I come across, but hey this is about making money so I doubt most people will care.
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          • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            No offense taken, There are plenty of different methods I chose the one best for me. Besides I like building big sites that actually help people ,its a win win situation for me. The visitors get what they came for and I get paid.

            One page sites offer little to no information or value at least the ones that I come across, but hey this is about making money so I doubt most people will care.
            This is good information. Thanks. I never thought about using Yahoo Answers as a tool to see what people are interested in.

            Currently I'm doing something I think is similar. I'm using Keyword Researcher (a GREAT program and it's free) to find all the questions related to my niche that people are searching for. Your post inspired me to start adding dozens of the search questions as titles to my articles. You do get visitors who are asking these questions.

            I'll start scouring Yahoo Answers for new questions. Thanks
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            • Profile picture of the author socialbookmark
              Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

              Currently I'm doing something I think is similar. I'm using Keyword Researcher (a GREAT program and it's free) to find all the questions related to my niche that people are searching for. Your post inspired me to start adding dozens of the search questions as titles to my articles. You do get visitors who are asking these questions.
              I'll start scouring Yahoo Answers for new questions. Thanks
              Whats is the keyword researcher you are using from? And Yahoo answers has very questions and contents about all things. How can you find ideas about it? I mean its very huge database and how can you use them? Do you have any special way?
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        • Profile picture of the author kimhannah
          Originally Posted by Legit SEO View Post

          No offense, but I'll stick with my method of ranking 1 page that makes $50 per day instead of writing 100 articles that only makes $100 a month. Seems like you are doing a ton of writing for not much reward. You could even sell 100 articles per month and make $500+ instead.
          Just a small question.

          What if your rank drops immediately?
          You'll lost tons of traffic and money

          The long-tail strategy, on the other hands, won't suffered too much. If one keyword drops, you still have the other 99 ones
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        • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
          Originally Posted by Legit SEO View Post

          No offense, but I'll stick with my method of ranking 1 page that makes $50 per day instead of writing 100 articles that only makes $100 a month. Seems like you are doing a ton of writing for not much reward. You could even sell 100 articles per month and make $500+ instead.
          Different methods for different people.

          As far as writing and selling articles to make $500, why would you? I'd rather promote them myself and think long term.

          I don't aim for $1 a month from each article. That's just way too low. But I've got nothing against writing about 3-5 a day for a few weeks, doing some basic backlinking, taking a little time off, and repeating the cycle.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by dakar View Post

            Awesome info, thanks again Ernest.

            I want to know if you have the same problem as I'm having (or if anyone else has this problem). When I compare Google analytics to Google webmaster tools, I am not seeing the same search terms. I've read that webmaster tools has a delay, but even if I go back 1 month and compare 1 week of results, analytics gives me totally different keywords than webmaster tools.

            Do you see the same differences between the two? Which tool do you focus more for search terms that people are using to find your site.
            I mostly rely on Google analytic for information. Webmasters tools are never accurate to me. I remember one time I was building links and when I checked webmaster tools it keep saying I had 1,200 links. I even came on here asking how to get your links indexed.

            I was to the point of giving up because my links wasn't getting indexed. Than out of nowhere 3 months later webmaster tools said I had 7,500 backlinks, all the links I had build was indexed, they just didn't show in webmaster tools.


            Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

            I finally got some money to spend on articles, but I am unsure with the niche picking, because I am afraid of failure (only money i have). Can anyone help me to pick a niche that I can find enough long tail keywords for, and get a decent traffic. If that not going to take much of your time. Any help appreciated. Thanks! Add me on skype if you wish to suggest anything to me. Skype name: danijel.bjelancevic

            Find a keyword with high exact local search, and build a site around it. Reverse engineer the keyword. For example:

            Lawyer=lawyer salary=bar exam=law school=tuition

            All these things can be categories and sub-categories on your navigation bar.


            Navigation could look something like this.

            Law School <-category Careers Salaries Q&A
            exams lawyer lawyers salary lawyer
            colleges <-sub-categories paralegal paralegal salary paralegal
            tuition fees judge judge salary judge

            about us,contact us, and privacy can take up the rest of the space on you navigation bar.

            This is how I would create a site.

            You than focus on 3 main categories which is career,salary,schools. You could easily make 50 articles on the best law schools in each state.

            Find out about every exam/test a lawyer has to take, you will be able to write plenty of articles on this subject also. Example

            How to pass the bar exam

            If I pass the state bar exam, is it worth anything without going to law school?

            Can you take the bar exam without going to Law School?

            What exactly does the United States Bar Exam entail?

            Just dig in, find out every thing there is to know about your keyword/niche and supply the information.

            Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

            Different methods for different people.

            As far as writing and selling articles to make $500, why would you? I'd rather promote them myself and think long term.

            I don't aim for $1 a month from each article. That's just way too low. But I've got nothing against writing about 3-5 a day for a few weeks, doing some basic backlinking, taking a little time off, and repeating the cycle.

            I do things differently now, I would never make 15 sites, aiming to earn a hundred from each. My goal now is to build one large site and just work on it for the next couple years, building it to be a powerhouse in it's niche.

            A site with thousands of pages powered by thousands of quality links would defiantly make more money than my old methods. Also this type of site is less likely to get you banned from adsense or receive a Google slap of some kind.
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            • Profile picture of the author dakar
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              I mostly rely on Google analytic for information. Webmasters tools are never accurate to me. I remember one time I was building links and when I checked webmaster tools it keep saying I had 1,200 links. I even came on here asking how to get your links indexed.

              I was to the point of giving up because my links wasn't getting indexed. Than out of nowhere 3 months later webmaster tools said I had 7,500 backlinks, all the links I had build was indexed, they just didn't show in webmaster tools.

              .

              Thanks man! Yeah. Webmaster tools looks like its heavily delayed, while Analytics is always current.

              In my case, Webmaster is showing very different results than Analytics. I mean, my Analytics is showing clicks from keywords that don't even show up in Webmaster Tools.
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      • Profile picture of the author Gunsblazen
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Most of the articles that I have written probably get 50 or less people a month. It's the fact that you have a hundred such articles that makes it worth it. Yes you can use analytics and yahoo answers take your pick. I have even taken info from analytics and posted it as a comment on my blogs and how those comments rank lol.

        Edit: even if each article only brings in 25 people a month, having a 100 such articles will equal 2500 visits.

        LET me get this straight...

        so you pick a niche like cats..

        you get a site like catanswers .com or something

        then you look up crazy search questions like "how many cats do you have before people think you are insane"

        then you write an article at the site with a link that ends up like

        www. cat answers .com / how - many - cats - do - you - have - before - people - think -you - are - insane" or something...

        and it may only get 20 hits a month or something, but you have 100 articles on the subject so thats like 2000 hits TOTAL on all your pages...

        Am I following you?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

          LET me get this straight...

          so you pick a niche like cats..

          you get a site like catanswers .com or something

          then you look up crazy search questions like "how many cats do you have before people think you are insane"

          then you write an article at the site with a link that ends up like

          www. cat answers .com / how - many - cats - do - you - have - before - people - think -you - are - insane" or something...

          and it may only get 20 hits a month or something, but you have 100 articles on the subject so thats like 2000 hits TOTAL on all your pages...

          Am I following you?
          Everything except I wouldn't pick a keyword like cats, high paying keywords would work better, but if you made a site about cats with this method I believe good money could be made, you would need more content.

          I would probably make 250 word articles for a site like cat answers.com.
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          • Profile picture of the author Gunsblazen
            I got you. That is similar to the strategy I'm using right now with my site. What cost per click do you usually go for? 2+?? 3+??
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  • Profile picture of the author elitesalesgroup
    Please explain the Yahoo answers part again. I got a little lost. Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by elitesalesgroup View Post

      Please explain the Yahoo answers part again. I got a little lost. Thanks
      Yahoo answers are where you go to get post title ideas. Also I was thinking of shorting articles to just 250 or 300 words. I mean these article rank off title not the post it self and it doesn't take 400 or 500 words to answer most of these questions.
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      • Profile picture of the author cipha
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Yahoo answers are where you go to get post title ideas. Also I was thinking of shorting articles to just 250 or 300 words. I mean these article rank off title not the post it self and it doesn't take 400 or 500 words to answer most of these questions.

        Ok you answered my question I was thinking wouldn't it be a little difficult to write a 500 word article on such simple questions, seems like most of it would be fluff. Do you think a few paragrahs would do, would a few paragraphs still get you visitors?
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  • Profile picture of the author hicksdelight
    Its certainly a different way of doing things from the off.

    But it's also a ton of work for little reward, 100 articles to bring in $100 (I know its just an average), to make full time income off that you would need about 50 sites, wouldn't be enough hours in day to write and carry on writing the articles to keep it making money.

    But still, I like the idea and like you thought somewhat outside the box, and enjoyed reading the last topic and this one.
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    • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
      Originally Posted by hicksdelight View Post

      Its certainly a different way of doing things from the off.

      But it's also a ton of work for little reward, 100 articles to bring in $100 (I know its just an average), to make full time income off that you would need about 50 sites, wouldn't be enough hours in day to write and carry on writing the articles to keep it making money.

      But still, I like the idea and like you thought somewhat outside the box, and enjoyed reading the last topic and this one.
      You are looking at it from an upfront investment. How likely will his Adsense account ever be in jeopardy? How likely will Google ever consider his websites to be worthless?

      This guy is building a long term income off of Adsense. $100 a month, whoopie right? $1200 a year. If he averages $100 a month per website he builds, he could make it work after a just a couple dozen websites.

      It may not be for you, but I find his approach to be FRESH and definitely worthwhile from a standpoint of providing USEFUL info to the web and making a long term profit from it.

      I'd be curious to see if this same approach would work for other affiliate networks like Amazon or whatnot. I still dislike Google enough not to trust a 100% of my income from Adsense.
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      • The reason this works is because search engines need to display relevant content to a user's search. The longer the search, the harder it is to narrow in on what content is relevant to the search. It becomes very complicated mathematically. By titling your post and url with an exact match or very close match to long tail searches that users are searching, you give yourself the opportunity to show up for those terms. It is a numbers game and it is actually beneficial to the search engines if you provide good content.

        In terms of monetizing the traffic, if you are going to make money using Adsense or any other ad network, you have to look for industries where there is heavy competition for ad space and top dollars being spent.

        When I use this method, I take the questions that I find, remove the useless words, and then do an exact match search, sorted by relevancy in the adwords keyword tool. This will give you an idea of the traffic and usually provides you with additional phrases that you can use. By doing this, you can write less articles and achieve the same or better results.

        Also, you should continue to check your rankings in analytics and web master tools. Usually I will find nuggets of traffic that, if I do a little bit of link building, I can easily move up in rankings and increase my traffic. Many times it only takes a handful of links.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by hicksdelight View Post

      Its certainly a different way of doing things from the off.

      But it's also a ton of work for little reward, 100 articles to bring in $100 (I know its just an average), to make full time income off that you would need about 50 sites, wouldn't be enough hours in day to write and carry on writing the articles to keep it making money.

      But still, I like the idea and like you thought somewhat outside the box, and enjoyed reading the last topic and this one.
      This method is expensive any way you look at it, if you outsource articles you might end up paying 250 to 400 dollars if you write all these yourself, they will take a lot of time. I outsource but my other sites pay for my new ones so it's not so bad. Also If I ever want to place a keyword with a good local search count on my site and aggressively backlink that pageI could make more money. I just hate scrabbling for backlinks, it's my lazy method to a full time income

      Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

      This is good information. Thanks. I never thought about using Yahoo Answers as a tool to see what people are interested in.

      Currently I'm doing something I think is similar. I'm using Keyword Researcher (a GREAT program and it's free) to find all the questions related to my niche that people are searching for. Your post inspired me to start adding dozens of the search questions as titles to my articles. You do get visitors who are asking these questions.

      I'll start scouring Yahoo Answers for new questions. Thanks
      yes with yahoo you wont need that software.

      Originally Posted by dodly View Post

      good work man . very nice information
      you welcome
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  • Profile picture of the author elitesalesgroup
    I learn so much o this forum. I was just looking for a longtail tool. Hope this one is easy to understand and use.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Do some Googling and you'll find a handful of free Google "Suggestion Scrapers" that will help generate a lot of long-tails.

    Although I'll admit the tool over @ http://keywordresearcher.org/ does look pretty good.
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  • Profile picture of the author The A
    Hi nest, appreciate your thread. but got a few questions here. so you never analyze the competition or whatsoever? you just go to yahoo answers and wrte a short article about it. is that it?
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  • Profile picture of the author elitesalesgroup
    suggestion scrapers.. i didnt know what to look for..ty
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by elitesalesgroup View Post

      suggestion scrapers.. i didnt know what to look for..ty
      Sorry, kind of an old bump. I know. But http://ubersuggest.org is a pretty good one. And free.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattr2110
    You may have answered this but how do you come up with the site title and domain name? It is a low volume exact match keyword? I'm also not clear on your back linking method to your home page.
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    • Profile picture of the author seolvl1
      $100 for only 2k traffic a month?

      You must have hight CTR and cpc..

      my CTR is a horrible 0.3% ...
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by The A View Post

        Hi nest, appreciate your thread. but got a few questions here. so you never analyze the competition or whatsoever? you just go to yahoo answers and wrte a short article about it. is that it?
        I don't worry about competition because I'm going after long tail only not keywords everybody else is going after. Yahoo is simply for ideas.

        Originally Posted by mattr2110 View Post

        You may have answered this but how do you come up with the site title and domain name? It is a low volume exact match keyword? I'm also not clear on your back linking method to your home page.
        The domains all have the keyword that my sites are about in the domain name, but they aren't exact matches. Normally I make it pet information.com or nurse information.com

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        $100 for only 2k traffic a month?

        You must have hight CTR and cpc..

        my CTR is a horrible 0.3% ...
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  • Profile picture of the author BigNorm
    With the way Google is starting to index websites now, this method is a very good one. Go to Google and put in search terms and see how many of those sites pop up which don't have the search term in the title, description or url but still rank on the first page because Google relates them to the query input, not the exact term itself. And with him building large quality content driven sites, there is a good chance that later on down the track Google will give him preference on the first page over someone else who has "better optimized" for the exact term, heck you see it all the time when you check your analytics or webmaster tools and find your pages ranking for low-high searched terms you haven't even targeted.

    I would definitely suggest having a look at the Google Suggestion scraping tools as well, this will give you infinite terms to target using Yahoo answers if your looking at going down that track.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      Originally Posted by BigNorm View Post

      With the way Google is starting to index websites now, this method is a very good one. Go to Google and put in search terms and see how many of those sites pop up which don't have the search term in the title, description or url but still rank on the first page because Google relates them to the query input, not the exact term itself. And with him building large quality content driven sites, there is a good chance that later on down the track Google will give him preference on the first page over someone else who has "better optimized" for the exact term, heck you see it all the time when you check your analytics or webmaster tools and find your pages ranking for low-high searched terms you haven't even targeted.

      I would definitely suggest having a look at the Google Suggestion scraping tools as well, this will give you infinite terms to target using Yahoo answers if your looking at going down that track.
      Yes, it is. I keep finding people arrive at the pages of my sites from really strange and unplanned phrases in the article but not appearing in any of the SEO tags like title, h1, h2 description, etc. I did not backlink using these phrases as anchor text. It was just certain words or phrases used in writing the articles. I guess that's the LSI that those most successful in this have been preaching for a while now.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    I appreciate these 2 tutorials and have a site like this myself. What do you do if the question is very long, such as "how do you take a nap if your cat always wakes you up" or something like that... if that is your title, do you shorten the url to the page to something like taking-naps-with-cats.html ??If it is too long I think it will look spammy.

    Also, if you don't do backlinks or add pages once you hit 100 posts doesn't your traffic drop? I have found that either updates or a little backlinking makes a difference in traffic.

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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    OP's post is a little confusing.

    Of course you can make money from low volume, you've made no mention of CPC. Try monetising cats, they're hard. Now try water coolers and you'll find you can make $$$$ (assuming you can rank).
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  • Profile picture of the author IndomitableD
    Thanks for all this, Nest28. Sorry to revisit question from your 1st post on this topic, but I wonder if you could comment a little more about how to set up the ads. Am not necessarily asking for a tutorial, but maybe you wouldn't mind sharing some direction on where to go hunting for this info?!? Making the block appear top RH column of the home page only, and embedded in the upper LH side on text on the pages seems like an important part of this strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Hi nest28,

    Have 1 more question for you if you don't mind answering 3 questions about the stats of the site you mentioned as an example:

    1. How many keyword phrases does that site get traffic from?

    2. And how many articles do y have for that site?

    3. What's the CTR for that example site?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Hi nest28,

      Have 1 more question for you if you don't mind answering 3 questions about the stats of the site you mentioned as an example:

      1. How many keyword phrases does that site get traffic from?

      2. And how many articles do y have for that site?

      3. What's the CTR for that example site?

      1. Only long tail

      2. Exactly 100
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      • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        1. Only long tail

        2. Exactly 100

        3.1.92%

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        Thanks for your response. For the first question I meant how many keyword phrases does it take for you to get the traffic that your site is getting?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

          Thanks for your response. For the first question I meant how many keyword phrases does it take for you to get the traffic that your site is getting?
          50 to 75 long tail phrases
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Thanks nest28. Really appreciate you answering my questions as well as other people's questions.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Thanks nest28. Really appreciate you answering my questions as well as other people's questions.
      Anytime, we are all here to learn including me. Hopefully somebody will help me when I need it
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  • Profile picture of the author fated82
    Great concept. I am going to try it out for my next batch of articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author tylerherman
      I can see this working and can also help with your current niche sites. A great way to come up with new articles if you are out of ideas.

      Quora is also good for finding ideas.

      Another one is checking Analytics and seeing some of the random stuff people are searching for and happen to stumble on your site. There may be a need there, lots of people searching but not finding anything. You can write an article on that exact term and pick up a little trickle of traffic.

      I've also found when you search for something on your niche, like when you are doing research and you find no good results, ding, there is your new article topic right there.
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    • Profile picture of the author cleanerupper
      How long does it take you to make each site?
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by tylerherman View Post

        I can see this working and can also help with your current niche sites. A great way to come up with new articles if you are out of ideas.

        Quora is also good for finding ideas.

        Another one is checking Analytics and seeing some of the random stuff people are searching for and happen to stumble on your site. There may be a need there, lots of people searching but not finding anything. You can write an article on that exact term and pick up a little trickle of traffic.

        I've also found when you search for something on your niche, like when you are doing research and you find no good results, ding, there is your new article topic right there.
        Yes I have suggested this many times through out all my threads.
        Originally Posted by cleanerupper View Post

        How long does it take you to make each site?
        Half hour, after that it's all about waiting for writer to finish my content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dj Co2
    This looks like a really good concept.. It's what Google currently wants so I'm going to give this a try
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  • Profile picture of the author netightman
    Thanks for the nice method, nest28

    What's your special instructions for outsource writer and how many words per article normally?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by netightman View Post

      Thanks for the nice method, nest28

      What's your special instructions for outsource writer and how many words per article normally?
      I tell my writers exactly what I want that way if they fail to deliver I can have the article revised. So if I want a article on nurse midwife my instructions would be something like this , Hello I would like a basic article to be written about nurse midwife's ,please include training,salary,schools,degrees etc and any other related information on the subject. Be specific as possible. In the past I ordered 500 word articles for all posts but now I split my articles between 300 and 500.

      Posts that are in question form such as "how long does it take to become a nurse midwife" will be 300 words. A article on nurse midwife itself will be 500 words since I feel that would be a more important topic than just answering a question.
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      • Profile picture of the author netightman
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I tell my writers exactly what I want that way if they fail to deliver I can have the article revised. So if I want a article on nurse midwife my instructions would be something like this , Hello I would like a basic article to be written about nurse midwife's ,please include training,salary,schools,degrees etc and any other related information on the subject. Be specific as possible. In the past I ordered 500 word articles for all posts but now I split my articles between 300 and 500.

        Posts that are in question form such as "how long does it take to become a nurse midwife" will be 300 words. A article on nurse midwife itself will be 500 words since I feel that would be a more important topic than just answering a question.
        Really appreciate you such specific answer my question. thanks again!
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  • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
    Nice posts, both of em... I picked up some good tips and might have had a light bulb moment. It made me consider using your Yahoo Answers technique for long tail kws on my niche site / blog which has over 3k pages published that simply do not earn. Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author jsmith2482
    So you've found that you have to have at least 100 pages for a site to start ranking well?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by jsmith2482 View Post

      So you've found that you have to have at least 100 pages for a site to start ranking well?
      No, the more pages a site has the more potential visitors those pages can bring in. My sites and there posts show up in the serps as soon as I buy the domain name.
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      • Profile picture of the author barnone100
        Thanks nest28,

        I'm actually trying to run with this.

        So I've been using Yahoo Answers to generate ideas for blog content. I have found a lot of good questions that I can answer in a blog post.

        Since I'm using whole phrases as my keywords, do I have to worry about keyword density? I just have the long-tail keyword phrase in the title and that's good enough? I'm not sure how to instruct the writer on the Content Authority as to keyword density.

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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

          Thanks nest28,

          I'm actually trying to run with this.

          So I've been using Yahoo Answers to generate ideas for blog content. I have found a lot of good questions that I can answer in a blog post.

          Since I'm using whole phrases as my keywords, do I have to worry about keyword density? I just have the long-tail keyword phrase in the title and that's good enough? I'm not sure how to instruct the writer on the Content Authority as to keyword density.

          zach
          Please give me a example of what you would call "whole phrase" .
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          • Profile picture of the author barnone100
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Please give me a example of what you would call "whole phrase" .
            For example, I found this question in YA.

            "Are dietary supplements necessary for muscle gains in weightlifting?"

            So, if I were to make a blog post with this question as the title, would the question be my keyword? Are long tail keywords and questions taken from YA two different things?
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

              For example, I found this question in YA.

              "Are dietary supplements necessary for muscle gains in weightlifting?"

              So, if I were to make a blog post with this question as the title, would the question be my keyword? Are long tail keywords and questions taken from YA two different things?
              Lol that's so long of a phrase I don't think you have to worry about keyword density.


              If you use the content authority simply ask the writer to answer that question, that's all I do.

              Also people will say that phrase doesn't get traffic, first of all how would you know exactly how much traffic that phrase gets if it's not in any keyword tool.

              These phrases get traffic just not a lot that's why I build my sites out to hundred pages to get traffic from a 100 article combined also you have to remember your site will also show up if people type in different variations of those phrases.
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              • Profile picture of the author barnone100
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                Lol that's so long of a phrase I don't think you have to worry about keyword density.


                If you use the content authority simply ask the writer to answer that question, that's all I do.

                Also people will say that phrase doesn't get traffic, first of all how would you know exactly how much traffic that phrase gets if it's not in any keyword tool.

                These phrases get traffic just not a lot that's why I build my sites out to hundred pages to get traffic from a 100 article combined also you have to remember your site will also show up if people type in different variations of those phrases.
                Thanks Ernest.

                Say, do you happen to have simple steps you follow to set up a new blog? Or a good resource for troubleshooting problems? I'm having trouble working with the Noble template. For example, I'm trying to upload an image to my header, but it doesn't stretch all the way across. Is there anything I need to do to optimize my blog?

                I tried to PM you, but my post count is too low apparently.

                Thanks for any help you could give me...

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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

                  Thanks Ernest.

                  Say, do you happen to have simple steps you follow to set up a new blog? Or a good resource for troubleshooting problems? I'm having trouble working with the Noble template. For example, I'm trying to upload an image to my header, but it doesn't stretch all the way across. Is there anything I need to do to optimize my blog?

                  I tried to PM you, but my post count is too low apparently.

                  Thanks for any help you could give me...

                  zach
                  step1
                  Go to edit template

                  step2
                  click inside the template and press control f at the same time, this will bring up a search box in the top left hand corner.

                  step 3
                  paste this - #header-wrapper



                  you should see this


                  #header-wrapper{width:950px;margin:0px auto 5px;height:113px;padding:8px 0px;background:url(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ew6B20Arhb.../header-bg.png) left top repeat-x;-moz-border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;-khtml-border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;-webkit-border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;overflow:hidden;}





                  #header-wrapper{width:950px;margin:0px auto 5px;height:113px;padding:8px 0px;background:url image here->
                  (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ew6B20Arhb.../header-bg.png) <- here is where you want to put the image url

                  left top repeat-x;-moz-border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;-khtml-border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;-webkit-border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;border-radius:0 0 6px 6px;overflow:hidden;}
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                  • Profile picture of the author febbelli
                    hey nest,

                    I am working on a site following your tips, just wondering how you get backlinks? I know you mentioned some of your sites got a notice from google.. are those sites still doing well ? did you change up your backlinking strategy since then ? Im not sure if I should just backlink the homepage and then let the posts rank themselves or if I should evenly backlink all the pages.

                    Thanks in advance!
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                    • Profile picture of the author nest28
                      Originally Posted by febbelli View Post

                      hey nest,

                      I am working on a site following your tips, just wondering how you get backlinks? I know you mentioned some of your sites got a notice from google.. are those sites still doing well ? did you change up your backlinking strategy since then ? Im not sure if I should just backlink the homepage and then let the posts rank themselves or if I should evenly backlink all the pages.

                      Thanks in advance!
                      None of my sites recovered. I don't backlink at all anymore.
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                      • Profile picture of the author febbelli
                        oh wow what a shame Im sorry to hear that after all that hard work ... is your method still working for you even without backlinking ?
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                        • Profile picture of the author nest28
                          Originally Posted by febbelli View Post

                          oh wow what a shame Im sorry to hear that after all that hard work ... is your method still working for you even without backlinking ?
                          So far things are going good, I should be back to my old income soon.
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                  • Profile picture of the author barnone100
                    Thanks Ernest. My header looks good now.

                    I've created my first blog. Last night, I received my first article that I outsourced to TCA. I posted it to my blog.

                    One question, is it okay to make to use the question and answer format for all my posts?

                    Another question, is it okay to make all my posts generally the same length...around 300 words?
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                    • Profile picture of the author nest28
                      Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

                      Thanks Ernest. My header looks good now.

                      I've created my first blog. Last night, I received my first article that I outsourced to TCA. I posted it to my blog.

                      One question, is it okay to make to use the question and answer format for all my posts?

                      Another question, is it okay to make all my posts generally the same length...around 300 words?
                      I usually make posts that are in question form 300 words. Articles that are about the main topic of the site can be 400 or 500 words.

                      Example Site about "cancer"

                      I would have a 500 word article about "lung cancer" because I feel this is extremely important to the blog.


                      Now a question like "What percent of deaths from lung cancer are the result of smoking?" would be a 300 word article.


                      It's up to you if you want to make the entire site in question format, but have a few 500 word articles about your main topic because they will be the articles that people click on the most.
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      • Profile picture of the author blanchi
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        No, the more pages a site has the more potential visitors those pages can bring in. My sites and there posts show up in the serps as soon as I buy the domain name.
        I agree with the volume of content rule that you follow - 100 articles for $100 might not seem like a lot for people who get $50 from one article, but with the many different article, you will gain authority... and if you ever look at google trends, you'll see that there are periods of increased interest in topics (e.g. paying off debt after Christmas, more people are interested in student loans in the summer rather than fall, or whatever).

        Plus, one of the things that I notice with my own large sites is that sometimes you'll rank for something you weren't really targeting (although I suspect you're ranking for everything you're targeting).

        Very interesting that you don't invest a ton of effort and time into backlinking... So you're just publishing content and it ranks on its own?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by blanchi View Post

          I agree with the volume of content rule that you follow - 100 articles for $100 might not seem like a lot for people who get $50 from one article, but with the many different article, you will gain authority... and if you ever look at google trends, you'll see that there are periods of increased interest in topics (e.g. paying off debt after Christmas, more people are interested in student loans in the summer rather than fall, or whatever).

          Plus, one of the things that I notice with my own large sites is that sometimes you'll rank for something you weren't really targeting (although I suspect you're ranking for everything you're targeting).

          Very interesting that you don't invest a ton of effort and time into backlinking... So you're just publishing content and it ranks on its own?
          When I made that statement , I was talking about a site that had more than 7,000 backlinks. My newest site has nowhere near that amount, and doesn't rank as easily as a result.
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  • Profile picture of the author jocgrtgvds
    2 and 3 words in your niche and make more money.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by jocgrtgvds View Post

      2 and 3 words in your niche and make more money.
      I don't understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
    Hi nest,

    I've been struggling to desperately rank my site back to it's position pre-panda. It has something like 75 posts and it was making me a nice chunk of change through affiliate product sales. I have tried nearly everything to get it to budge and it simply will not move in rankings.

    So my question is, do you think doing the posts using yahoo ? titles would work to help get some of my traffic back and help rank it again?

    It seems like your methods have worked for new sites but what about older sites like mine? It's at least 4 years old.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

      Thanks Ernest.

      Say, do you happen to have simple steps you follow to set up a new blog? Or a good resource for troubleshooting problems? I'm having trouble working with the Noble template. For example, I'm trying to upload an image to my header, but it doesn't stretch all the way across. Is there anything I need to do to optimize my blog?

      I tried to PM you, but my post count is too low apparently.

      Thanks for any help you could give me...

      zach
      I will have to download the template and look at it myself, gimmie one second.
      Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

      Hi nest,

      I've been struggling to desperately rank my site back to it's position pre-panda. It has something like 75 posts and it was making me a nice chunk of change through affiliate product sales. I have tried nearly everything to get it to budge and it simply will not move in rankings.

      So my question is, do you think doing the posts using yahoo ? titles would work to help get some of my traffic back and help rank it again?

      It seems like your methods have worked for new sites but what about older sites like mine? It's at least 4 years old.
      I don't know why your site doesn't rank if it's 4 years old but you could try writing a few long tail posts to test it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author dm101
    So I find this pretty interesting. By building content around long tail KWs, you almost have an authority site instead of micro niche. I guess it's splitting hairs, and it doesn't really matter what you call it, but i think you have a better long-term business model with that sort of authority site b/c you can always add new long tail poss, which essentially save you the time of creating a whole new micro-niche site around that long-tail.
    Love seeing the process you've developed.
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    I have to say. I've been reading a lot of what nest28 has been saying recently and I feel I'm on the same page as you with my train of thoughts and I also have had the same concerns. It seems that things as always are changing and sites using paid link back services like uaw seem to be loosing fast. I've come to this conclusion from reading all the posts recently on this forum of people getting hit with un natural link penalities and being de indexed.

    This is just my thoughts and I accept I could be wrong but I've come to the conclusion the better way to go is to build an authoritive site, with a domain name that has one keyword related to your niche and then to just build the site up.

    I think this better because

    Matt Cutts suggested this as a better approach
    Less overheads (one domain name registartion. one hosting package)
    Less work! You only need one privacy policy and contact us page. In the past people have made 3 articles for a mnf. With this method you just publish 1 article.

    It's strange I just read your post Nest cause your thoughts on the matter seem to agree with mine. I'm curious about something, once you have a great site with a few hundread articles, if your main domains pr is fairly high like 3/4, if you add a new article is it likely to rank well as it associated with your domain. I know it doesn't "inherit" the pr from the homepage as such. Just wondering if as the site grows your articles could get a little more ambitious with the soc niche's it tries to penetrate?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

      I have to say. I've been reading a lot of what nest28 has been saying recently and I feel I'm on the same page as you with my train of thoughts and I also have had the same concerns. It seems that things as always are changing and sites using paid link back services like uaw seem to be loosing fast. I've come to this conclusion from reading all the posts recently on this forum of people getting hit with un natural link penalities and being de indexed.

      This is just my thoughts and I accept I could be wrong but I've come to the conclusion the better way to go is to build an authoritive site, with a domain name that has one keyword related to your niche and then to just build the site up.

      I think this better because

      Matt Cutts suggested this as a better approach
      Less overheads (one domain name registartion. one hosting package)
      Less work! You only need one privacy policy and contact us page. In the past people have made 3 articles for a mnf. With this method you just publish 1 article.

      It's strange I just read your post Nest cause your thoughts on the matter seem to agree with mine. I'm curious about something, once you have a great site with a few hundread articles, if your main domains pr is fairly high like 3/4, if you add a new article is it likely to rank well as it associated with your domain. I know it doesn't "inherit" the pr from the homepage as such. Just wondering if as the site grows your articles could get a little more ambitious with the soc niche's it tries to penetrate?


      Yes I've had some of my sites rank high for competitive terms.

      Here is my ultrasound site ranking before I got hit with the unnatural links penalty.


      Ultrasound technician -10

      ultrasound tech- 4

      Sonogram technician- 4

      Ultrasound technician schools-14

      ultra sound tech-4

      Sonography-13

      Theses are some terms that I remember ranking on the first or second page for, there were many more but I forgot the rest.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    This isn't the first time someone brought up this 'controversial' idea around here. Check out this thread by Frasier Crain.

    He gets 100,000 visitors every day without backlinking.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      This isn't the first time someone brought up this 'controversial' idea around here. Check out this thread by Frasier Crain.

      He gets 100,000 visitors every day without backlinking.
      It's good to know I'm not alone when it comes to this kind of strategy.

      Although with his method it may take a bit longer to see traffic, If I were to make a site monday post a hundred articles on it and buy a blogger custom domain I would see traffic and be making money before the end of the week.


      Frasier's thread has got me thinking of making one big authority site, something that has been on my mind for some time now.


      Thank you for the heads up about that thread.
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      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      He gets 100,000 visitors every day without backlinking.
      No, he doesn't, lol.

      Sorry, but this method has failure written all over it. Build it and they will come is not going to work. This is what 99% of website owners do.....and that's why 99% of them never get anywhere.

      Hi Ernest,

      So I have 31 posts on my blog so far. I'm not getting traffic yet.
      Not a surprise. Add about 3,000-4,000 more posts, and you MIGHT start to see a little.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

        No, he doesn't, lol.

        Sorry, but this method has failure written all over it. Build it and they will come is not going to work. This is what 99% of website owners do.....and that's why 99% of them never get anywhere.



        Not a surprise. Add about 3,000-4,000 more posts, and you MIGHT start to see a little.
        Are you kidding me, so you think 99% of marketers build sites without linking to them. It's more like 99% marketers do backlink, more than a few marketers with very large sites have back me up on this, so do me fav and hate from the side lines.

        It's funny how all these people say building a site without backlinking wont work, yet none of these same people have ever try it, if your not speaking from experience, you shouldn't be speaking at all.


        Geez I get tired of some of the people on here so quick to put somebody down for no good reason, and it's not just about me, I see these kind of comments often on this forum.

        Some how I doubt these same people would be so brave in person.


        Edit: 99% of marketers backlink and that exactly why 99% came on the warrior forum explaining how there site is on page 70, yet your advice is to go and do the very same thing that will get you a penalty. Also I said I wasn't going to backlink, but I do plan on promoting my site every way I know ,which will bring traffic/natural links.
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        • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          Are you kidding me, so you think 99% of marketers build sites without linking to them. It's more like 99% marketers do backlink, more than a few marketers with very large sites have back me up on this, so do me fav and hate from the side lines.

          It's funny how all these people say building a site without backlinking wont work, yet none of these same people have ever try it, if your not speaking from experience, you shouldn't be speaking at all.


          Geez I get tired of some of the people on here so quick to put somebody down for no good reason, and it's not just about me, I see these kind of comments often on this forum.

          Some how I doubt these same people would be so brave in person.


          Edit: 99% of marketers backlink and that exactly why 99% came on the warrior forum explaining how there site is on page 70, yet your advice is to go and do the very same thing that will get you a penalty. Also I said I wasn't going to backlink, but I do plan on promoting my site every way I know ,which will bring traffic/natural links.
          People that sell SEO say your method won't work because they don't want the word to get out.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

            I'm not panicking yet, but I'm glad to see you're at about the same place with your new sites that I am with my first site using your strategy. In the begining I noticed how quickly my site and the first few pages got indexed. I have been getting some traffic (it is growing), and a few clicks. But lately the few clicks have dropped to zero.

            What I am noticing is that if you put up lots of good quality content, you'll start getting traffic from keywords and phrases that you didn't even intend to rank for. I have faith it will work just as you said, but it does take a little time. If it takes a year to get up to a full-time income again using this method, I will. It's better than building something on shaky ground and getting my House of Cards knocked down by the next Google Earthquake. I won't build like that again.
            Yes don't panic this is normal, remember I said there were times that I went days without getting any clicks yet I made that same amount on a monthly basis. That was with a 100 page site, now I'm building a much bigger site.

            I haven't received much traffic but like I said before, google hasn't crawled my site since may, 6. Since that I have posted 160 articles bringing it to a total of 182. Once google crawls my sites again I believe there will be a increase i traffic from long tail searches.

            I may have to build a couple links for indexing purposes, and I do mean a few, like 2 lol. But I'll continue to wait a lil longer.

            Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

            Nest,
            I would appreciate if you answer my question on the post #121

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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              google hasn't crawled my site since may, 6.
              This would worry me a bit. I'd get some minor bookmarking & pinging going and get an XML sitemap submitted to Google.

              If I don't see spider activity on my site for more than a day, my alarm bells go off.
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      • Profile picture of the author FraserC
        Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

        No, he doesn't, lol.
        No, it's true, I don't. The number rises and falls over the course of the year.



        This was my search traffic back during the annual peak. Traffic is huge in the winter, lower in the summer.

        Here's the last 30 days, lower because of Summer, but still... nice.



        That's purely search traffic, derived 100% from content creation.

        I've got about 16,000 pages on my website, created over 12 years.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

          No, it's true, I don't. The number rises and falls over the course of the year.



          This was my search traffic back during the annual peak. Traffic is huge in the winter, lower in the summer.

          Here's the last 30 days, lower because of Summer, but still... nice.



          That's purely search traffic, derived 100% from content creation.

          I've got about 16,000 pages on my website, created over 12 years.
          This is what I want to see in my analytic's one day. I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for making the comment about having a site you want to work on for years, not weeks and months. A site that will have your full undivided attention for the next tens years can't possibly fail.

          To bad most will continue to follow the latest trends, I mean imagine what you can do with traffic like that. But all I hear is don't put all your eggs in same basket, or build 20 sites.

          Having a large 10,000 page site is what I see myself doing, people can see whatever they want, I really don't care.


          Now you can be like Fraser and get couple million visits to your site, or you can follow the trends and have a couple thousand visits to your site.

          Edit: Wait a minute I thought those figures was over the course of a year, not the last 30 days, that's truly impressive.
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        • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
          Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

          No, it's true, I don't. The number rises and falls over the course of the year.

          That's purely search traffic, derived 100% from content creation.

          I've got about 16,000 pages on my website, created over 12 years.
          wow.. thats really hard work. and it seems that on every your post you added 1-3 pictures.

          may i know, 16000 pages is include tags&category or just the posts? do you write it yourself or outsource?
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  • Profile picture of the author barnone100
    Another question for you Ernest, do you do anything after you make a blog post? Do you turn it into an article and submit it to article directories?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

      Another question for you Ernest, do you do anything after you make a blog post? Do you turn it into an article and submit it to article directories?
      Nope, I'm actually going to try things google way and just post great content to my site and let the visitors do the backlinking for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author barnone100
        Thanks again for answering my questions.

        Are you still manually doing meta tags for all your posts? I've googled how to do it, but I'm still somewhat unclear of what html code to enter for each post. Could you explain that?

        I have 10 articles posted to my blog and another 10 in my queue at Content Authority. I'm using two writers at the moment. One who does the 300 word Q and A posts and one who does 500 word posts about the most important issues for my visitors.

        How many writers do you use?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

          Thanks again for answering my questions.

          Are you still manually doing meta tags for all your posts? I've googled how to do it, but I'm still somewhat unclear of what html code to enter for each post. Could you explain that?

          I have 10 articles posted to my blog and another 10 in my queue at Content Authority. I'm using two writers at the moment. One who does the 300 word Q and A posts and one who does 500 word posts about the most important issues for my visitors.

          How many writers do you use?
          Haha that's funny I do the exact same thing, one writer only does 500 word articles and I have another writer that does 300 word articles. Great minds do think alike.


          Meta tags for individual posts.


          Here's a blank example


          <b:if cond='data:blog.url == &quot;url goes here&quot;'> <meta content='Your description of the post goes here ' name='description'/> <meta content=' keywords go here,keyword 1, keyword 2, keyword 3' name='keywords'/> </b:if>





          here is what it should look like after your done



          <b:if cond='data:blog.url == &quot;http://www.thepsychiatricnursepractitioner.com/2012/01/pediatric-nurse-practitioner-jobs.html&quot;'> <meta content='Find the best pediatric nurse practitioner jobs online.' name='description'/> <meta content=' advanced registered nurse practitioner ,nurse salary,nursing schools,online nurse programs, practitioner salary,fnp, certified nurse,family nurse practitioner salary, psychiatric nurse practitioner jobs ' name='keywords'/>
          </b:if>



          Here are meta tags for homepage




          <META CONTENT='FOLLOW,INDEX' NAME='robots'/>
          <b:if cond='data:blog.url == data:blog.homepageUrl'>
          <meta content='Become an psychiatric nurse practitioner by attending the best nursing schools in the counrty.' name='description'/>
          <meta content='nursing,nurse,schools,salary,programs,med ical,family nurse practitioner, neonatal,acute nurse, pediatric nurse,nursing schools,nurse salary,nurse online programs,psychiatric nurse practitioner,psychiatric nurse practitioner' name='keywords'/>


          You can check your meta tags at meta tag checker.

          Edit: the top of your blog should look like this

          <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8" ?>
          <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
          <html expr:dir='data:blog.languageDirection' xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml' xmlns:b='http://www.google.com/2005/gml/b' xmlns:data='http://www.google.com/2005/gml/data' xmlns:expr='http://www.google.com/2005/gml/expr'>
          <head>
          <b:include data='blog' name='all-head-content'/>




          <b:if cond='data:blog.url == &quot;http://www.thepsychiatricnursepractitioner.com/2012/01/acute-nurse-practitioner.html&quot;'> <meta content='Find out how to become a acute nurse practitioner.' name='description'/> <meta content=' acute nurse practitioner ,nurse salary,nursing schools,online nurse programs, practitioner salary,anp, certified nurse' name='keywords'/> </b:if>

          <b:if cond='data:blog.url == &quot;http://www.thepsychiatricnursepractitioner.com/2012/01/neonatal-nurse-practitioner.html&quot;'> <meta content='Find out how to become a neonatal nurse practitioner.' name='description'/> <meta content='neonatal nurse practitioner, nursing salary,nursing schools' name='keywords'/> </b:if>


          <META CONTENT='FOLLOW,INDEX' NAME='robots'/>
          <b:if cond='data:blog.url == data:blog.homepageUrl'>
          <meta content='Become an psychiatric nurse practitioner by attending the best nursing schools in the counrty.' name='description'/>
          <meta content='nursing,nurse,schools,salary,programs,med ical,family nurse practitioner, neonatal,acute nurse, pediatric nurse,nursing schools,nurse salary,nurse online programs,psychiatric nurse practitioner,psychiatric nurse practitioner' name='keywords'/>
          </b:if>


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      • Profile picture of the author WareTime
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Nope, I'm actually going to try things google way and just post great content to my site and let the visitors do the backlinking for me.
        Great threads Ernest. I've been banging this drum for awhile. My links come naturally. I don't have many compared to some sites that use automated tools, but mine stick, are high quality and never count against me.

        Nice that you're using blogger. I use static sites because I can't stand the security issues in WP and the plugins, etc, and for my sites, static is fine. Blogger is a good alternative to WP though as it's hosted and maintained by Google.

        Anyway, glad things are going well for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author barnone100
    Thanks Ernest. I got my meta tags sorted.

    Where exactly do you put your Adsense blocks? I think you said yo put one at the top left of each post and have text wrap around it. What size do you use? Where do you put the code?

    Also, what's the code for the Adsense you put on the homepage and where do you insert the code?

    Thanks again for all your help. I know this first blog will be the hardest.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

      Thanks Ernest. I got my meta tags sorted.

      Where exactly do you put your Adsense blocks? I think you said yo put one at the top left of each post and have text wrap around it. What size do you use? Where do you put the code?

      Also, what's the code for the Adsense you put on the homepage and where do you insert the code?

      Thanks again for all your help. I know this first blog will be the hardest.
      The great thing about blogger is that everything is extremely easy. Just select the adsense widget and place it anywhere you like.

      To have adsense show up inside the content to the left use this code.



      Look for <div class='post-header-line-1'/> than insert code






      <b:if cond='data:blog.pageType == &quot;item&quot;'>
      &lt;div style=&quot;float: left;&quot;&gt;
      &lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;&gt;&lt;!--
      google_ad_client = &quot;pub-xxxxxxxxx&quot;;
      google_ad_host = &quot;pub-xxxxxxxxxx&quot;;
      google_ad_slot = &quot;xxxxxxx&quot;;
      google_ad_width = 300;
      google_ad_height = 250;
      google_ad_format = &quot;300x250_as&quot;;
      google_ad_type = &quot;text&quot;;
      google_ad_channel = &quot;&quot;;
      //--&gt;
      &lt;/script&gt;
      &lt;script type=&quot;text/javascript&quot;
      src=&quot;http://pagead2.googlesyndication.com...s.js&quot;&gt;
      &lt;/script&gt;
      &lt;/div&gt;
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  • Profile picture of the author sackboy127
    You can also use Yahoo Answers to drive traffic to your site, and also, for additional article ideas, you can check out sites like eHow, etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    Hey nest28, did you ever see this post I did a few months ago? It's sort of the same thinking:

    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...s-traffic.html
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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenHaynes
    Nest - i love reading your posts here, they are refreshing.

    I am going to start a site by your methods. I just think there is a more long term sustainability and less risk.

    I am just wondering what level of writing you are ordering from TheContentAuthority for your articles. Are you going with "Great" (O.015 USD per Words) or "excellent" (0.02 USD per Word). Maybe a bit of both? Would love to know, so I can figure my budget.

    Thanks for sharing this great method.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    I think your posts are refreshing as well!

    The only thing that makes me nervous is the use of Blogger. Are you ever afraid that Google will give your websites the axe? I started out using Blogger, but then changed to self hosted Wordpress sites after a month (because of all of the horror stories).

    I can see some advantages to using Blogger, but it makes me nervous to have to depend on Google's good graces. Especially with the way Google has been killing decent sites lately.

    Also, do you think it is important to buy your own domain name with a blogger blog? I'm not sure if having the blogspot URL is an advantage or not.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      I think your posts are refreshing as well!

      The only thing that makes me nervous is the use of Blogger. Are you ever afraid that Google will give your websites the axe? I started out using Blogger, but then changed to self hosted Wordpress sites after a month (because of all of the horror stories).

      I can see some advantages to using Blogger, but it makes me nervous to have to depend on Google's good graces. Especially with the way Google has been killing decent sites lately.

      Also, do you think it is important to buy your own domain name with a blogger blog? I'm not sure if having the blogspot URL is an advantage or not.
      Long term I'd much rather go with self-hosted Wordpress domains. I prefer full control.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

        so this is your new thread.. damn, how i can i subscribe to your profile nest?? i want to be noticed when you start new thread
        lol I don't know
        Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

        Hi Ernest,

        I've almost got my Adsense setup. I know you send to make your adds the same color as your template. So, for instance, if my template was blue, does that mean I should make the title and and url and the description black?

        How do you make it so the adsense in the sidebar only appears on the homepage?



        Zach
        That my friend is a bit complicated, I'll have to look into it, it's been a while since I've done any of this.
        Originally Posted by JSProjects View Post

        Long term I'd much rather go with self-hosted Wordpress domains. I prefer full control.
        I would also recommend this, I myself feel fine using blogger but I urge you guys to use wordpress for full control.

        I have never had any problems with blogger in 2 yrs of using there service, and there is a export blog feature I use to keep my blogs backed up in case anything happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    @Jeannelynn - I agree, I'd never base my website on a Blogger platform. You need to control your real estate, and move from location to location as your business changes.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    There's a option to import/export your blogs, so if I ever need to change blogging platforms it wouldn't be to hard. I'm more concerned with google's new algo and negative seo running around.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    so this is your new thread.. damn, how i can i subscribe to your profile nest?? i want to be noticed when you start new thread
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  • Profile picture of the author barnone100
    Hi Ernest,

    I've almost got my Adsense setup. I know you send to make your adds the same color as your template. So, for instance, if my template was blue, does that mean I should make the title and and url and the description black?

    How do you make it so the adsense in the sidebar only appears on the homepage?



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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenHaynes
    Hi Nest,

    I am just wondering if you missed my question in my last comment?

    I am just wondering what level of writing you are ordering from TheContentAuthority for your articles. Are you going with "Great" (O.015 USD per Words) or "excellent" (0.02 USD per Word). Maybe a bit of both? Would love to know, so I can figure my budget.
    Of course, you don't have to answer anything! But just wondering :-)

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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Gunsblazen View Post

      I got you. That is similar to the strategy I'm using right now with my site. What cost per click do you usually go for? 2+?? 3+??
      Well I really don't check cost per click, I just stick to niches/categories that pay well. I make all my blogs about medical careers so I always see clicks between, 1.00 and 3.50 per click.
      If I had chosen a niches that pays any lower I doubt I would ever reach the hundred dollar mark without a ton of traffic.

      Originally Posted by DarrenHaynes View Post

      Hi Nest,

      I am just wondering if you missed my question in my last comment?



      Of course, you don't have to answer anything! But just wondering :-)

      Darren
      Hey sorry about that, sometimes I might miss a question or two, in the future just pm me.

      I use basic, once you find a couple good writers put them in your favorites list, than use them for direct orders. I remember this one time I gave a writer specific instructions on how I wanted my article and for the life of her she couldn't do it, I had to contact customer service and they gave the article to another writer, so believe me find 3 good writers and use direct order.

      Also avoid writers pool, I was about to use that today and a 300 word article that would usually cost 3.23 jumped up to 5.40.

      Please excuse my excessive use of the letter "I" it's a bad habit.

      Edit: Darren if you need any help feel free to contact me anytime, I respond to all messages.
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  • Profile picture of the author 100k
    Just checked Godaddy stats, looks like 1000 people have bought a domain with "cat" in it.

    Jk


    Good share bro!

    I think 1k articles are better for long term purposes.

    I want to make something like this, but I HATE writing, so I will have to outsource the writing, but to get quality content it costs an arm and a leg... and I dont really have that sort of cash to spend (i.e 100 page sites + SEO)...

    So I have been focusing on other stuff... but in the mid/long term, I want to have my adsense make at least $15K per month.
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  • Profile picture of the author guitarjosh
    Nice post, nest. I've been preaching the long tail to people for the last couple years. You're very close to a wealthy system. But.. you have a bit of work to go. you remind me of where I was a couple years. Now.. you just have to think .. 'how can I create unlimited "unique" articles with lots of longtails, without spending the extra time and money to do so?' I figured that part out and went from hundreds to thousands every month. (And I never spin)

    This is the first year that I've ever wrote articles.. and I only write a couple a week.. but not for my content. I submit the same articles to a crapload of web2.0 sites with links back to mine.. and ping those web2.0 sites. I started making a crapload more.

    Anyway.. just giving you a strong hint without giving away how I do it. My best month was almost $7000 in AdSense. Either way.. you're making it happen, so good on you. Keep it up!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post

      Nice post, nest. I've been preaching the long tail to people for the last couple years. You're very close to a wealthy system. But.. you have a bit of work to go. you remind me of where I was a couple years. Now.. you just have to think .. 'how can I create unlimited "unique" articles with lots of longtails, without spending the extra time and money to do so?' I figured that part out and went from hundreds to thousands every month. (And I never spin)

      This is the first year that I've ever wrote articles.. and I only write a couple a week.. but not for my content. I submit the same articles to a crapload of web2.0 sites with links back to mine.. and ping those web2.0 sites. I started making a crapload more.

      Anyway.. just giving you a strong hint without giving away how I do it. My best month was almost $7000 in AdSense. Either way.. you're making it happen, so good on you. Keep it up!
      I have a ways to go before I reach 7,000 a month, but I'm sure eventually I'll come to the same conclusion you did. My methods continue to evolve at a pretty fast rate, if I can find away around spending money for content that would be great.

      I thought about making a site with user generated content.
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      • Profile picture of the author 2stayhome
        Hey Nest,

        This is a great concept. It's a perfect way to flesh out any kind of site. And with the shorter posts, just be sure to backlink internally to the longer posts to give them more credibility in the eyes of the search engines. The longer, more specific posts are also likely to have higher Adsense payouts so by giving your visitors another clicking option other than just Adsense ads, you have a better chance of getting a higher-paying click as they are leaving your site.

        This should also work equally well with other methods of monetization. Adsense earnings provide faster and more specific results but the end result is likely the same.

        My mind is racing with ideas on how to use Yahoo Answers this way. Thanks for sharing!

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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

          Sent you a PM to get a better understanding of what you're talking about....I'm at a little bit of a loss for what you meant by this post.

          It sounds interesting but not enough information was provided to say for sure so I can only kind of guess what his method/strategy is...
          Brit I don't think he wants anyone to know, but at least he left a clue as to what he is talking about.
          Originally Posted by 2stayhome View Post

          Hey Nest,

          This is a great concept. It's a perfect way to flesh out any kind of site. And with the shorter posts, just be sure to backlink internally to the longer posts to give them more credibility in the eyes of the search engines. The longer, more specific posts are also likely to have higher Adsense payouts so by giving your visitors another clicking option other than just Adsense ads, you have a better chance of getting a higher-paying click as they are leaving your site.

          This should also work equally well with other methods of monetization. Adsense earnings provide faster and more specific results but the end result is likely the same.

          My mind is racing with ideas on how to use Yahoo Answers this way. Thanks for sharing!

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    • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
      Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post

      Nice post, nest. I've been preaching the long tail to people for the last couple years. You're very close to a wealthy system. But.. you have a bit of work to go. you remind me of where I was a couple years. Now.. you just have to think .. 'how can I create unlimited "unique" articles with lots of longtails, without spending the extra time and money to do so?' I figured that part out and went from hundreds to thousands every month. (And I never spin)

      This is the first year that I've ever wrote articles.. and I only write a couple a week.. but not for my content. I submit the same articles to a crapload of web2.0 sites with links back to mine.. and ping those web2.0 sites. I started making a crapload more.

      Anyway.. just giving you a strong hint without giving away how I do it. My best month was almost $7000 in AdSense. Either way.. you're making it happen, so good on you. Keep it up!
      Sent you a PM to get a better understanding of what you're talking about....I'm at a little bit of a loss for what you meant by this post.

      It sounds interesting but not enough information was provided to say for sure so I can only kind of guess what his method/strategy is...
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      • Profile picture of the author guitarjosh
        Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

        Sent you a PM to get a better understanding of what you're talking about....I'm at a little bit of a loss for what you meant by this post.

        It sounds interesting but not enough information was provided to say for sure so I can only kind of guess what his method/strategy is...
        As nest said.. I really can't fully give away my strategy. I've considered how I could do it in a wso or something, but honestly, the primary source I use would get saturated. However, I am confident there are many other untapped sources. I just use the 1 anymore because it works so well for me.

        To give you a better idea though.. I've made no secrets in the past that I scrape content and save it to a mysql database, then simply display it. And the best tip? There's a lot of content online that expires.. and simply goes away.. gets deleted. If you grab this content, save it and display it months later you are the only one with those long tail keywords.. get good at it and you can scrape thousands and thousands of long tail keywords a night. The long tail is the way to go online. You can literally build sites and never ever touch them again.. or do any kind of off page seo whatsoever and they'll rank for all kinds of keywords. Google algo changes won't affect them whatsoever because there's no competition for thousands of your phrases.

        Though I can't offer a full "how to", anyone who dwells on what I just said and tries to create a system like that will be very profitable online. I'm reading all these posts about how Penguin killed so many sites. Since the algo change, I've been hitting 20% more profit (on average) every day. Not sure if it's just a high search volume lately or these changes but lovin' it!
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post

          As nest said.. I really can't fully give away my strategy. I've considered how I could do it in a wso or something, but honestly, the primary source I use would get saturated. However, I am confident there are many other untapped sources. I just use the 1 anymore because it works so well for me.

          To give you a better idea though.. I've made no secrets in the past that I scrape content and save it to a mysql database, then simply display it. And the best tip? There's a lot of content online that expires.. and simply goes away.. gets deleted. If you grab this content, save it and display it months later you are the only one with those long tail keywords.. get good at it and you can scrape thousands and thousands of long tail keywords a night. The long tail is the way to go online. You can literally build sites and never ever touch them again.. or do any kind of off page seo whatsoever and they'll rank for all kinds of keywords. Google algo changes won't affect them whatsoever because there's no competition for thousands of your phrases.

          Though I can't offer a full "how to", anyone who dwells on what I just said and tries to create a system like that will be very profitable online. I'm reading all these posts about how Penguin killed so many sites. Since the algo change, I've been hitting 20% more profit (on average) every day. Not sure if it's just a high search volume lately or these changes but lovin' it!
          Exactly I remember some of my sites lost it's first pages ranking for keywords with high search volume but it didn't matter because all my sites made money from long tail phrases.

          I'm still learning more about this method myself, still testing, I should know a lot more after this next site I built is finish.

          Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author LeoTran
    Thank you for useful article! Nice to see someone having good income from blogspot! Your method really help to save money for hosting and domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author ecila
    Hi Nest, i dont have any questions, just wanted to let you know i like the idea of what you do. I live in The Netherlands so it's a bit different here. (less competition) Here i found out that if you write around 20 long tail articles you will also rank for the main keyword after a few months. So even if the competion is strong i can make it work. Tested my main keyword in micro niche finder: comeptition soc = 11.800 i rank no 1 now. What i mean is dont let numbers tell you you cant rank that keyword. Testing it now for english sites as well but that takes more time because i write my own content and english is not my first or second language. Nest tanks for everything you share and the time you take to help others (like me)
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  • Profile picture of the author inazuman
    good work man . this is really an interesting concept with going after long tail keywords. opened my eyes. very nice information, thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author barnone100
    Hi Ernest,

    So I have 31 posts on my blog so far. I'm not getting traffic yet.

    Some questions...my adsense ads don't match the content of my site at all. Is it the result of getting no traffic to my blog?

    When I make a new post and put in the meta tags for it, do put the entire long-tail as the keyword?

    thanks,

    zach
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

      Hi Ernest,

      So I have 31 posts on my blog so far. I'm not getting traffic yet.

      Some questions...my adsense ads don't match the content of my site at all. Is it the result of getting no traffic to my blog?

      When I make a new post and put in the meta tags for it, do put the entire long-tail as the keyword?

      thanks,

      zach
      Here is a example of what you meta tags should look like


      <b:if cond='data:blog.url == &quot;http://www.thepsychiatricnursepractitioner.com/2012/01/what-is-fellow-of-american-academy-of.html&quot;'> <meta content='What Is The Fellow Of The American Academy Of Nurse Practitioners?* ' name='description'/> <meta content=' Fellow Of The American Academy Of Nurse Practitioners ,nurse salary,nursing schools,online nurse programs, practitioner salary,anp, certified nurse' name='keywords'/> </b:if>

      You may have to show me your site, so I can better assist you.
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      • Profile picture of the author barnone100
        Ernest,

        I'd don't know if posting a link to my site on this thread is a good idea. And my post count is too low to send you a private message.

        Could you pm me your email address so I can have you take a look at my blog?

        zach
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by barnone100 View Post

          Ernest,

          I'd don't know if posting a link to my site on this thread is a good idea. And my post count is too low to send you a private message.

          Could you pm me your email address so I can have you take a look at my blog?

          zach
          ernest1366@yahoo.com
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          • Profile picture of the author barnone100
            Hi Ernest, a few days ago I sent a message to your yahoo email about looking at my blog.

            Did you get it?

            zach
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              Me? I don't have a Yahoo email address.
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  • Profile picture of the author JayWiz
    Thanks for sharing this, i have new idea because of your post. I will add yahoo answers search to my keyword tool. I think your method is unique and has good earning potential. Hope the best for you.
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  • Profile picture of the author NewYorkerRocks
    This is mind blowing and interesting. I would have never thought of this. As some say: Money is cheap, but knowledge is expensive! How true
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  • Profile picture of the author adamv
    This is an interesting approach and I may give it a try. I am a big believer in building backlinks to rank sites but I am also a pretty prolific writer and if it is possible to rank for countless super long tail keywords to generate traffic that traffic would be less prone to the constant changes the big G is making in their algos.

    I would really like to see a few more people reporting some success with these types of sites before I head of to write hundreds of articles though. Is there anyone else out there getting a decent amount of traffic by producing 100+ page sites?

    Nest, do you have any updates on how your sites are doing? I know you had some sites that were slapped recently when you were doing link building but how are the newer sites with nothing but long tails doing?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by adamv View Post

      This is an interesting approach and I may give it a try. I am a big believer in building backlinks to rank sites but I am also a pretty prolific writer and if it is possible to rank for countless super long tail keywords to generate traffic that traffic would be less prone to the constant changes the big G is making in their algos.

      I would really like to see a few more people reporting some success with these types of sites before I head of to write hundreds of articles though. Is there anyone else out there getting a decent amount of traffic by producing 100+ page sites?

      Nest, do you have any updates on how your sites are doing? I know you had some sites that were slapped recently when you were doing link building but how are the newer sites with nothing but long tails doing?
      I had 7 new sites that I put on the shelf to focus on one very large site. So far I have posted over a hundred articles but haven't seen any traffic.

      But google hasn't crawled my site since may 6, and at that time I only had just a few article on my site. Also I made a huge mistake with my sites template which resulted in the post title not showing in the serps.

      Once google crawls my site again I'll report any increase in traffic, plus I haven't done meta tags for my post yet, or any kind of internal linking.

      I will admit that with out backlinking it will take longer to make money/receive traffic.

      Because of that other may choose to link to there sites and that's understandable, I've been tempted myself, but then it hit me that I haven't even gave this a chance yet, I'm hoping those mistake I made on the template is why I haven't seen much traffic.

      This site is also only 12 days old is that, I've seen exactly 47 visits.
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      • Profile picture of the author adamv
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I had 7 new sites that I put on the shelf to focus on one very large site. So far I have posted over a hundred articles but haven't seen any traffic.

        But google hasn't crawled my site since may 6, and at that time I only had just a few article on my site. Also I made a huge mistake with my sites template which resulted in the post title not showing in the serps.

        Once google crawls my site again I'll report any increase in traffic, plus I haven't done meta tags for my post yet, or any kind of internal linking.

        I will admit that with out backlinking it will take longer to make money/receive traffic.

        Because of that other may choose to link to there sites and that's understandable, I've been tempted myself, but then it hit me that I haven't even gave this a chance yet, I'm hoping those mistake I made on the template is why I haven't seen much traffic.

        This site is also only 12 days old is that, I've seen exactly 47 visits.
        I wish you luck with the new site.

        I may take a sort of mixed approach. I think I may put up a hundred articles for various long tail question type keywords but I may also build a few pages around relatively low competition keywords and do a bit of link building to those. Then the internal link structure of the site would pass some link juice to the uber long tail pages that don't have any links being built to them directly.
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      • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I had 7 new sites that I put on the shelf to focus on one very large site. So far I have posted over a hundred articles but haven't seen any traffic.

        But google hasn't crawled my site since may 6, and at that time I only had just a few article on my site. Also I made a huge mistake with my sites template which resulted in the post title not showing in the serps.

        Once google crawls my site again I'll report any increase in traffic, plus I haven't done meta tags for my post yet, or any kind of internal linking.

        I will admit that with out backlinking it will take longer to make money/receive traffic.

        Because of that other may choose to link to there sites and that's understandable, I've been tempted myself, but then it hit me that I haven't even gave this a chance yet, I'm hoping those mistake I made on the template is why I haven't seen much traffic.

        This site is also only 12 days old is that, I've seen exactly 47 visits.
        Have you tested your method with a WordPress site yet? Being a WP guy, I find Blogger to be clunky and utterly confusing right now - kinda pissing me off. lol

        I intend to stick with it for this site, but I am curious if there is any credence to those paranoid users out there who think Google gives preference to Blogger sites over other platforms.

        Anyway, you know I'm a big fan of this thread - definitely look forward to more updates man.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by adamv View Post

          I wish you luck with the new site.

          I may take a sort of mixed approach. I think I may put up a hundred articles for various long tail question type keywords but I may also build a few pages around relatively low competition keywords and do a bit of link building to those. Then the internal link structure of the site would pass some link juice to the uber long tail pages that don't have any links being built to them directly.
          Yes defiantly mix things up, I don't stick to just questions, I have article written on everything related to my niche.

          Never think that the only thing you should do is stick to the question type posts, my site deals with medical careers, so I have article written about the careers,schools,salary,questions,tuition fees, best places to work,what equipment they will use etc. Some article are there just for information purposes I don't even care if it ranks.


          Some of the article that are there just for information purpose bring in good traffic as well though.
          Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

          Have you tested your method with a WordPress site yet? Being a WP guy, I find Blogger to be clunky and utterly confusing right now - kinda pissing me off. lol

          I intend to stick with it for this site, but I am curious if there is any credence to those paranoid users out there who think Google gives preference to Blogger sites over other platforms.

          Anyway, you know I'm a big fan of this thread - definitely look forward to more updates man.
          I'm stick to blogger for now, but I will give wordpress a try very soon, this way I know how to use both.
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      • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I had 7 new sites that I put on the shelf to focus on one very large site. So far I have posted over a hundred articles but haven't seen any traffic.

        But google hasn't crawled my site since may 6, and at that time I only had just a few article on my site. Also I made a huge mistake with my sites template which resulted in the post title not showing in the serps.

        Once google crawls my site again I'll report any increase in traffic, plus I haven't done meta tags for my post yet, or any kind of internal linking.

        I will admit that with out backlinking it will take longer to make money/receive traffic.

        Because of that other may choose to link to there sites and that's understandable, I've been tempted myself, but then it hit me that I haven't even gave this a chance yet, I'm hoping those mistake I made on the template is why I haven't seen much traffic.

        This site is also only 12 days old is that, I've seen exactly 47 visits.
        I'm not panicking yet, but I'm glad to see you're at about the same place with your new sites that I am with my first site using your strategy. In the begining I noticed how quickly my site and the first few pages got indexed. I have been getting some traffic (it is growing), and a few clicks. But lately the few clicks have dropped to zero.

        What I am noticing is that if you put up lots of good quality content, you'll start getting traffic from keywords and phrases that you didn't even intend to rank for. I have faith it will work just as you said, but it does take a little time. If it takes a year to get up to a full-time income again using this method, I will. It's better than building something on shaky ground and getting my House of Cards knocked down by the next Google Earthquake. I won't build like that again.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

          If it takes a year to get up to a full-time income again using this method, I will. It's better than building something on shaky ground and getting my House of Cards knocked down by the next Google Earthquake. I won't build like that again.
          This is the best way to build a site. It's the right way. Target the long-tails to build authority and you will eventually been seen as an authority on the short-tails (and rankings will follow).
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  • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
    Great thinking outside the box. Refreshing to see people trying new things and finding success. This has actually inspired a directory site idea for me that I'm going to pursue.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    Quick question: Do you ever use long tails that google shows no searches for?
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    • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      Quick question: Do you ever use long tails that google shows no searches for?
      I believe he answered this previously with a big ole YES. It's fairly easy to extrapolate keywords you do see traffic data for into Q/A's.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Hello Nest

    Are you using the same gmail account for all your blogger sites or are you using every gmail account for each blogger site?

    Just asking because of footprint can cause problems, if you go with wordpress you have to buy many ip address as if you use the same one if google doesn't like 1 of your sites, all of them can be affected.That means if you've got 50 sites you need to spread them to 5 ip addresses and you're gonna spend some kind of money in host them.
    Blogger you just need to create another gmail account, I think.

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    Hmm I've found some nice article ideas using the yahoo answers method, but some of them is hard to answer with even 300 word article. Did anyone experiment with the 200-300 ones?
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      Hmm I've found some nice article ideas using the yahoo answers method, but some of them is hard to answer with even 300 word article. Did anyone experiment with the 200-300 ones?
      Type variations of the question into Bing (I'm boycotting Google Searches) and you'll find dozens of ways to answer the questions. A lot of my articles are 700 words or more.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    The lowest I'll ever go is 300 word article, although most end up being closer to 400 words. I only pay for 300 words though, that's why I like the content authority they always over deliver. They don't have any affiliate programs and I'm not getting paid to say that lol.

    You may find writers like that on Odesk of freelancer also. I never tried those before.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      Hmm I've found some nice article ideas using the yahoo answers method, but some of them is hard to answer with even 300 word article. Did anyone experiment with the 200-300 ones?
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      The lowest I'll ever go is 300 word article, although most end up being closer to 400 words. I only pay for 300 words though, that's why I like the content authority they always over deliver. They don't have any affiliate programs and I'm not getting paid to say that lol.

      You may find writers like that on Odesk of freelancer also. I never tried those before.
      I wanted to make a suggestion for when it's difficult to create larger amounts of text when answering a longtail question.

      Instead of creating a page that targets a single question, create a longer page that targets 2,3, or 4 questions, just make sure all the questions on the same page are 100% related (themed).

      If you target multiple questions on a single page, make sure to at least have the full question title in an <h2> tag once per question/text.

      Use a single <h1> per root keyword, example:

      (All this on a single page)
      • <h1>How to surf</h>
        • <h2>When Did Surfing Start?</h2>
        • 3-4 paragraphs of text.
        • <h2>How To Make A Surf Board?</h2>
        • 3-4 paragraphs of text.
        • <h2>How To Identify The Parts Of A Surf Board?</h2>
        • 3-4 paragraphs of text.
        • <h2>How To Start A Surf Board Business?</h2>
        • 3-4 paragraphs of text.

      Look at Wikipedia pages, how they break all of their pages up into small chunks of text to form a large page full of text.

      Something else & I'm in no way trying to sway your thinking on the amount of text per page. Just some info. based on my own experience.

      I've been ranking pages for a few years (still do today) with very little text on the pages.

      I'm just throwing that out there, so people don't get hooked on an exact number of words per page for the entire site. If I can rank pages with little text, the same page can be ranked with 1,000 words. Just saying.

      Don't get me wrong, larger amounts of text on a page does have a few advantages like, ranking a wider selection of keywords, more opportunities to place internal links, etc...
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      • Profile picture of the author lutherlars
        Patients is a virtue.... Good work. I've bookmarked this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    I am trying to write content on my own right now due to the limited budget. Is it good idea to put targeted long tail in the first sentence of the article?
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Nest,
    I would appreciate if you answer my question on the post #121

    Regards.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    Do you guys even check the rankings for your posts? I have like 15 posts so far, but none of them seem to be in the top 100? Should that concern me?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      Do you guys even check the rankings for your posts? I have like 15 posts so far, but none of them seem to be in the top 100? Should that concern me?
      Are your post long tail phrases
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      • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
        How many people are starting again post Penguin?

        I've decided to follow Nest, I think his ideas are good. I was going to start building 3 sites, but atm my head is spinning with all the domains I own..

        Nest what have you done with all your old domains and websites?

        I have over a dozen PR4+ domains, some are premium and cost me over $3000, even my web 2.0 mini sites are PR5+ LOL, some haven't been affected while 75% have. I'm just think of clearing the whole lot and starting on just one website but is there any use for these domains? are you just dumping them?

        One domain I own would be perfect for this, it already has over 500 longtails in analytics but the cpc max is $1.00 but the ctr is good at %6

        How many sites are you building? I though to just stick with one so I could give it the attention it needs both with the content and backlinking, instead of just slamming backlinks at it I could spend more time and give it the attention it deserves..

        Then when I get to 1000+ pages or when it earns wenga I can move onto something else..

        any thoughts?
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        • Profile picture of the author wilsonm
          Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

          Then when I get to 1000+ pages or when it earns wenga I can move onto something else..
          How much is 1000+ articles at 700 words per article at $1 per 100 words, is 7000$. Can you actually see a return on this becuase that is a lot of money for some folks. (But I guess if someone can spent $4k on a high PR websites/domain, it is not a big deal).
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          • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
            Originally Posted by wilsonm View Post

            How much is 1000+ articles at 700 words per article at $1 per 100 words, is 7000$. Can you actually see a return on this becuase that is a lot of money for some folks.
            I'm only doing 300/400 word articles, and I'm doing them myself. I have plenty of time on my hands so 3/4 months work should be ok..

            The return is a recurring income, I only need to do this once to get the main part of the site set up, 12 months of this then I can go on holiday or spend time doing other things
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    Yeah, I was going to send you a PM to show you my blog, but it says I need 50 posts first -.-
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    It's just posts. I no-index all the tags and categories because they create duplicate content.
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    • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
      Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

      It's just posts. I no-index all the tags and categories because they create duplicate content.
      thank you for your answer mr. fraser, i just starting new website follows your method or nets method. i hope i can be the next universe today in my niche
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    • Profile picture of the author netightman
      Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

      It's just posts. I no-index all the tags and categories because they create duplicate content.
      So index all the tags and categories is not good? How to no-index them from wordpress?
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      • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
        Originally Posted by netightman View Post

        So index all the tags and categories is not good? How to no-index them from wordpress?

        You can use the all in one seo plugin or the platinum seo plugin. Personally I would only noindex the tags and not the categories but it's your choice. I would be careful deleting some tags as they can actually help your ranking. I deleted a few the other day and my site dropped for a big keyword.
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      • Profile picture of the author FraserC
        Originally Posted by netightman View Post

        So index all the tags and categories is not good? How to no-index them from wordpress?
        I use the Thesis theme, which gives you that kind of control. But All in One SEO will do it too.

        Tags, Categories, Archives, etc are all pages composed duplicate content then you can find in other places in your site. If you're able to completely redesign the tag page so that it's all unique content, go ahead and leave them indexed.
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        • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
          Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

          I use the Thesis theme, which gives you that kind of control. But All in One SEO will do it too.

          Tags, Categories, Archives, etc are all pages composed duplicate content then you can find in other places in your site. If you're able to completely redesign the tag page so that it's all unique content, go ahead and leave them indexed.
          using robots.txt is way easy, just make file robots.txt and fill with this code


          User-agent: *
          Disallow: /search/
          Disallow: /category/
          Disallow: /tag/
          Disallow: /another-directoryto-exclude/
          Allow: /

          Sitemap: http://yoursite.com/sitemap.xml

          note:
          wordpress pagination is also generate duplicate description (& short description)
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    @Danijelb - There's no need to track your rankings. All you should care about is the total amount of search engine traffic coming to your website. If that's going up month after month, you're on the right track. Once you track your rankings, then you feel the need to influence your rankings for any one keyword - that's where the emphasis on linking came in.
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    @nest28 - You might be putting too much effort into keyword-targeted articles and not enough effort into the social/community side of things. Are you using Twitter/FB and Google+? Are you reaching out and helping people out? I wouldn't create more than a couple of articles a day until you're seeing regular spidering. And I'd balance the mix between keyword-targeted stuff and social/viral type articles.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      This would worry me a bit. I'd get some minor bookmarking & pinging going and get an XML sitemap submitted to Google.

      If I don't see spider activity on my site for more than a day, my alarm bells go off.
      Yea, I'm a little concerned at this point myself, but I wasn't to worried because I wanted to finish the meta tags and internal linking before google crawled my site again.
      Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

      @nest28 - You might be putting too much effort into keyword-targeted articles and not enough effort into the social/community side of things. Are you using Twitter/FB and Google+? Are you reaching out and helping people out? I wouldn't create more than a couple of articles a day until you're seeing regular spidering. And I'd balance the mix between keyword-targeted stuff and social/viral type articles.
      My site is about 6 medical careers, so each career as its on tab and drop down menu with sub categories. Out of 182 articles I think around 50 are in question form maybe more, the rest are about exams,certifications,salary,schools,classes,tuitio n fees etc. I haven't targeted any specific keywords.

      One article may explain how to become a nurse, now in this article the writer may name a few exams and certifications needed to become a nurse. So than I have article written on those exams and certifications mention in the first article.

      There are so many exams,classes,course,online programs, colleges,institutes, etc that it's like a domino effect, one article leads to another and another.

      This goes on until I start to get Google analytic info, once I have the analytics information I used that to make article on topics based on what people actually search for.



      I mention in another thread how I had a article written based on my analytic info and the one article received 700 visitors, from a term the Google keyword tool says has 0 searches.


      Edit: I've been behind in my work, I haven't had a chance to do 90% of the things I need to get done. Such as using social media to promote my site, and also to get google indexing it on a regular basis.


      Oh yea Fraser I read that your traffic increased in the last 3 or 4 years because you started writing articles like, what is the biggest star in the universe , these are the type of article I focus on. All of the who,what,where,how,can type of questions, but I also mix in a bunch of other articles as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author netightman
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        This goes on until I start to get Google analytic info, once I have the analytics information I used that to make article on topics based on what people actually search for.

        I mention in another thread how I had a article written based on my analytic info and the one article received 700 visitors, from a term the Google keyword tool says has 0 searches.
        How to use Google analytic info for article written? Could you reveal some detail through a sample?

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by netightman View Post

          How to use Google analytic info for article written? Could you reveal some detail through a sample?

          Thanks
          Well say you have a site about "acne" and your looking in your Google analytic information to see how people got to your site. You may see phrases such as:

          how to get rid of acne scares on your back

          which over the counter acne medication should I buy

          Now if you don't already have articles on your site dealing with the answers to these questions , make some. The more article you have the more long tail traffic you will receive, the more analytic info you'll accumulate, telling you what you visitors are asking for.

          But like Fraser said don't write articles with over lapping content. So don't make 5 articles about the exact same thing.



          I once saw this site post articles like this


          nurse salary
          nurse salary 2012
          nurse salary in florida

          Don't do that.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Update:

            My site now has all of it's articles indexed, and google has crawled my homepage, fixing those problems I mentioned earlier, now my post titles show instead of my blog title.

            I even have triple listings for certain phrases. Traffic has increased ,not by much though, yesterday I received 27 visits where before it would have been 0, today so far there has only been 6 visits but it's only 10 am.
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            • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
              Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

              Update:

              My site now has all of it's articles indexed, and google has crawled my homepage, fixing those problems I mentioned earlier, now my post titles show instead of my blog title.

              I even have triple listings for certain phrases. Traffic has increased ,not by much though, yesterday I received 27 visits where before it would have been 0, today so far there has only been 6 visits but it's only 10 am.
              what you exactly do to fixing those problems that you mentioned earlier?
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by descover View Post

                Nest, so how many post have you written thus far to gain those 27 visitors?
                182 Articles, I know your thinking that's a lot of article for so little traffic, but keep in mind this is a new site with no links. If I were to backlink ,traffic would increase fast because of the amount of content.

                Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

                what you exactly do to fixing those problems that you mentioned earlier?
                I didn't do anything, just woke up this morning and check webmaster tools and all posts were indexed, I than check my site main url in google and it was crawled on may 20th.

                After doing all that I check my articles in serps, last time my blog's title was showing instead of my post title, now that's fixed.

                Because I choose 6 medical carers that are closely related, I saw triple listing for certain search terms, and this is without having overlapping content.



                Think of a site that features:

                nurse midwife
                nurse practitioner
                travel nurse
                family nurse practitioner
                psychiatric nurse practitioner
                Registered Nurse

                All these careers are closely related but at the same time require different schooling,certifications,exams etc, the salaries are different, job duties are different.

                If I were to make a site like that each career would be a tab on the navigation bar, with a drop down menu, with subcategories dealing with school,exam,certifications,salary etc.

                If I were to backlink I would find 3 medical terms from each article and use that as anchor text, so if I have a hundred article and took 3 phrase from each that would be 300 different anchor text, which is ok with me because I'm not trying to rank for any one keyword but hundreds or thousands anyway.

                Btw as of right now I'm not planning on mass linking, just a few social bookmarks here and there.
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  • can we do this in any niche???
    i think there are many niches that kind of have a cpc of 2$ or more like the make money online niche.
    nest said we dont have to worry about competition. because we are trying to rank for an overlooked sentence. in the make money online niche....... questions can be
    can i make 3000$ per month if i spent 4 hours blogging everyday after 1 month? many big names like darren rowse ,lisa irby ,sunil,potpiegirl etc recommend that we stay out of make money online because it overcrowded with a ton of sites! please tell me your ideas about this.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      can we do this in any niche???
      i think there are many niches that kind of have a cpc of 2$ or more like the make money online niche.
      nest said we dont have to worry about competition. because we are trying to rank for an overlooked sentence. in the make money online niche....... questions can be
      can i make 3000$ per month if i spent 4 hours blogging everyday after 1 month? many big names like darren rowse ,lisa irby ,sunil,potpiegirl etc recommend that we stay out of make money online because it overcrowded with a ton of sites! please tell me your ideas about this.
      Dude, what you think, working 1 month 4hrs a day that is 80 hrs and then make $3k/month, pff get realistic. You should be happy if you make $30/month after 1 month.
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      • Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Dude, what you think, working 1 month 4hrs a day that is 80 hrs and then make $3k/month, pff get realistic. You should be happy if you make $30/month after 1 month.
        i know that it is hard to make money wth your blog the first month.
        you have got my idea wrong. i know my english is very poor since i am not from usa. what i mean was that if i target dog training,weight loss,debt consolidation,make money online niches.....(these niches are huge and very competitive plus lots of money being spent each day) so we know that if a person can rank for the keyword "make money online" in google first page first result...then that site makes a good amount of money for sure. but if we go the nest way and avoid the keyword "make money online" and go for yahoo answers or google keyword tool and look for 10-500 searches per month keywords ....or even 0 searches per month. then write articles on them. for this case it could be this kind of keywords
        how to make money online free fast?
        how to make money online if i am from china?
        what is the best way to make money online if i my internet is dial up connection?
        may be this articles may get you 10 or 20 visitors per month. and the visitors will be surprised by the authoritativeness(beautifulness) of the site and they click to the main page(home page) which is about making money online. so if they click an ad on the side bar from this page.....you get good cpc. and that is what this nest method is all about.
        my question is..... 1)arent these long sentences going to be competitive as the your niche is also competitive? here is another queston at nest ....2)do u analyze the first page competition before your write/order the articles? or just because there is few people searching for the sentence ...you beilive that it is low competition?
        3) you told me that you just go for high paying niche. but out of your 15 sites 6 are medical niches ......have you had success with any other niche? and if so is the main keyword or niche very competitive?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by trytryuntillyoudie View Post

          i know that it is hard to make money wth your blog the first month.
          you have got my idea wrong. i know my english is very poor since i am not from usa. what i mean was that if i target dog training,weight loss,debt consolidation,make money online niches.....(these niches are huge and very competitive plus lots of money being spent each day) so we know that if a person can rank for the keyword "make money online" in google first page first result...then that site makes a good amount of money for sure. but if we go the nest way and avoid the keyword "make money online" and go for yahoo answers or google keyword tool and look for 10-500 searches per month keywords ....or even 0 searches per month. then write articles on them. for this case it could be this kind of keywords
          how to make money online free fast?
          how to make money online if i am from china?
          what is the best way to make money online if i my internet is dial up connection?
          may be this articles may get you 10 or 20 visitors per month. and the visitors will be surprised by the authoritativeness(beautifulness) of the site and they click to the main page(home page) which is about making money online. so if they click an ad on the side bar from this page.....you get good cpc. and that is what this nest method is all about.
          my question is..... 1)arent these long sentences going to be competitive as the your niche is also competitive? here is another queston at nest ....2)do u analyze the first page competition before your write/order the articles? or just because there is few people searching for the sentence ...you beilive that it is low competition?
          3) you told me that you just go for high paying niche. but out of your 15 sites 6 are medical niches ......have you had success with any other niche? and if so is the main keyword or niche very competitive?
          All my old sites and current sites are in the medical niche. I don't worry about competition, these long tail phrases really don't have any except for yahoo answers and ask.com.
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          • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            All my old sites and current sites are in the medical niche. I don't worry about competition, these long tail phrases really don't have any except for yahoo answers and ask.com.
            and all the .edu websites, some of them are very difficult
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    How much do you pay for a 300 word or 500 word article ?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Watch Store View Post

      How much do you pay for a 300 word or 500 word article ?
      3.29 for 300 words and 5.28 for 500 words, from two different writers.
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  • Profile picture of the author descover
    Hi nest28,

    I have also been looking into ranking the longtail KW and for the past few weeks have been trying to build my own authority site. Been churning out content left and right. This is being done on a site that I had laying around for about 8 months now, but never really touched. I'm really putting work into this one.

    The sad part is there's no long tail, short tail, or medium tail traffic anywhere. Its so frustrating. sometimes even hard to find the motivation to keep going.

    Average daily visitors for this site is 0.
    It does have some prior links to it (less than 1,000 overall)

    But anyways, I just want to ask you: In your experience, do you rank for the longtail keywords & traffic AFTER your website has acquired some pagerank and authority? Or does it rank for the longtail almost right away even if your main domain has a pagerank 0.

    I keep telling myself to keep going, but its so hard to find the motivation especially if you're Adsense account is averaging less than $2.00/day. Back in 2010, I was making $550/month and was really happy.

    Anyways, by following you're treads, it helped provided some inspiration in me, even though you seem like you're stuck in a pickle yourself with $0 Adsense earnings.

    Here's my new moto for the second half of the year:

    "It's not an apple seed, in reality it's an apple tree" - Eric Thomas
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by descover View Post

      Hi nest28,

      I have also been looking into ranking the longtail KW and for the past few weeks have been trying to build my own authority site. Been churning out content left and right. This is being done on a site that I had laying around for about 8 months now, but never really touched. I'm really putting work into this one.

      The sad part is there's no long tail, short tail, or medium tail traffic anywhere. Its so frustrating. sometimes even hard to find the motivation to keep going.

      Average daily visitors for this site is 0.
      It does have some prior links to it (less than 1,000 overall)

      But anyways, I just want to ask you: In your experience, do you rank for the longtail keywords & traffic AFTER your website has acquired some pagerank and authority? Or does it rank for the longtail almost right away even if your main domain has a pagerank 0.

      I keep telling myself to keep going, but its so hard to find the motivation especially if you're Adsense account is averaging less than $2.00/day. Back in 2010, I was making $550/month and was really happy.

      Anyways, by following you're treads, it helped provided some inspiration in me, even though you seem like you're stuck in a pickle yourself with $0 Adsense earnings.

      Here's my new moto for the second half of the year:

      "It's not an apple seed, in reality it's an apple tree" - Eric Thomas
      Why aren't there any keywords in your niche, how many pages does your site have?

      My newest site also has 0 visits a day, because I haven't done any backlinking to get in crawled better by google. I know that in the next few weeks this will most likely change after I do a little backlinking for indexing purposes.

      Edit: I just check my analytic and there was 24 new visits today, when normally there would 0. So I imagine that after a little link building is done I'll start to see traffic increase.
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      • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Why aren't there any keywords in your niche, how many pages does your site have?

        My newest site also has 0 visits a day, because I haven't done any backlinking to get in crawled better by google. I know that in the next few weeks this will most likely change after I do a little backlinking for indexing purposes.

        Edit: I just check my analytic and there was 24 new visits today, when normally there would 0. So I imagine that after a little link building is done I'll start to see traffic increase.
        so, now you change your strategy to give a little link to your new site again like you are doing on your old site that got penalty from google?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

          so, now you change your strategy to give a little link to your new site again like you are doing on your old site that got penalty from google?
          Social bookmarking in moderation isn't going to get a site penalized.
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          • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
            Unfortunately, much to the enjoyment of seo companies, links are still the number one factor for ranking in Google, but I suggest you think about this in a different way.

            Just keep pumping out the content!!! - Just because it doesn't rank so well now doesn't mean it won't in the near future. The big seo services will tell you that you need thousands of backlinks to your index page with your anchors but this just isn't the case, then they will drip feed them over 6 months with over 20 keywords.

            Due to these links being not well connected into the web graph they bottle neck quickly and leave a big footprint. Even the services that offer tiered linking are poor quality and unnatural, go look at the new service from the owner of ALN (Maulana) it's poor quality at best and delivers high amounts of low quality links for loads of stupid people.

            More Website Pages;

            The more pages you have on your site, the better. Google will treat these pages equally and together they make your site more relevant and easier to rank for your main keywords without even thinking or doing anything about it.

            High Pagerank Backlinks;

            All you need is 4/5 really high quality backlinks. For a site with thousands of long tails it doesn't matter what the anchor is, you don't need to spend hours on end building link pyramids and can instead enjoy building a great website. Just as long as the link is dofollow and it hits your homepage and the pagerank flows down your archive pages, this will bring your internal pages higher in Google.

            Deep Link Ratio;


            Natural websites will have a better DLR, so that means only a handful of links to your index page and more (200/300) links to your internal pages. This tells Google that your content is popular so when they find new content on your site they will give it a decent rank because it's got a good history of internal linking and deep linking. Most link building services won't offer this highly natural linkbuilding because they are lazy and it's too much work for them.

            To get your site moving what I would suggest is this. Keep building the content as much as you can. Every 10 pages do a little backlinking, 10 backlinks to the internal pages you have just built and 2/3 links of varying quality to your homepage.

            Google still likes consitancy so doing this every so often is actually better than worse if your content is not very linkable and you're have trouble trying to get natural backlinks. After a 1/2 month Google will be crawling, indexing and ranking your site alot better.

            Just start as you mean to go on, don't get into the habit of spamming links to your homepages, or getting frustrated, you will get there in the end.. When you have 1000 pages of content and no traffic then you will have something to complain about and will need a plan B.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

              so, now you change your strategy to give a little link to your new site again like you are doing on your old site that got penalty from google?
              No, before I sent lots of spammy links to my homepage to trying and increase my rankings, this time I only seek to have my site better crawled by building just a few links.

              Those long tail queries are increasing day by day, so if anything I'll add more content not backlinks.

              Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

              Unfortunately, much to the enjoyment of seo companies, links are still the number one factor for ranking in Google, but I suggest you think about this in a different way.

              Just keep pumping out the content!!! - Just because it doesn't rank so well now doesn't mean it won't in the near future. The big seo services will tell you that you need thousands of backlinks to your index page with your anchors but this just isn't the case, then they will drip feed them over 6 months with over 20 keywords.

              Due to these links being not well connected into the web graph they bottle neck quickly and leave a big footprint. Even the services that offer tiered linking are poor quality and unnatural, go look at the new service from the owner of ALN (Maulana) it's poor quality at best and delivers high amounts of low quality links for loads of stupid people.

              More Website Pages;

              The more pages you have on your site, the better. Google will treat these pages equally and together they make your site more relevant and easier to rank for your main keywords without even thinking or doing anything about it.

              High Pagerank Backlinks;

              All you need is 4/5 really high quality backlinks. For a site with thousands of long tails it doesn't matter what the anchor is, you don't need to spend hours on end building link pyramids and can instead enjoy building a great website. Just as long as the link is dofollow and it hits your homepage and the pagerank flows down your archive pages, this will bring your internal pages higher in Google.

              Deep Link Ratio;


              Natural websites will have a better DLR, so that means only a handful of links to your index page and more (200/300) links to your internal pages. This tells Google that your content is popular so when they find new content on your site they will give it a decent rank because it's got a good history of internal linking and deep linking. Most link building services won't offer this highly natural linkbuilding because they are lazy and it's too much work for them.

              To get your site moving what I would suggest is this. Keep building the content as much as you can. Every 10 pages do a little backlinking, 10 backlinks to the internal pages you have just built and 2/3 links of varying quality to your homepage.

              Google still likes consitancy so doing this every so often is actually better than worse if your content is not very linkable and you're have trouble trying to get natural backlinks. After a 1/2 month Google will be crawling, indexing and ranking your site alot better.

              Just start as you mean to go on, don't get into the habit of spamming links to your homepages, or getting frustrated, you will get there in the end.. When you have 1000 pages of content and no traffic then you will have something to complain about and will need a plan B.
              You don't have to worry about me and backlinks, I learned my lesson well. 181 out of 182 pages have now been indexed , and traffic is increasing little by little.
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              • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                No, before I sent lots of spammy links to my homepage to trying and increase my rankings, this time I only seek to have my site better crawled by building just a few links.

                Those long tail queries are increasing day by day, so if anything I'll add more content not backlinks.

                You don't have to worry about me and backlinks, I learned my lesson well. 181 out of 182 pages have now been indexed , and traffic is increasing little by little.
                I really don't blame you. What really irritates me on this forum is people still offering services they think are penguin proof and natural, but they are sending 300 web 2.0 links to peoples index pages every month? or 100 article drip feeds to the same page? Even with mixed anchor it's still unnatural. Is simply mixing the anchor going to hold back the wrath of Google?

                Higher Pagerank will index your content faster. Where you choose to get these links from is your choice and they need to be relevant. I have a plan B for a few links. 30 high PR relevant links, it's taking some time for me to set up but once done it's completely automated and I can focus on content and they are there if I need them, everything is just taking alot longer now with these types of links, especially making them good enough to count.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    If you target low-competition and long-tail keywords, it generally only takes a few social bookmarks to get indexed and ranked. Traffic usually soon follows. I typically target low-competition keywords on my Amazon sites and do light social bookmarking of each new product review. My sites are generally indexed and ranking within 48 hours and already collecting Amazon clicks.

    As mentioned in this thread, the key is targeting keywords and phrases that are low-competition, whether your site is product-based or info-based. This strategy works.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      If you target low-competition and long-tail keywords, it generally only takes a few social bookmarks to get indexed and ranked. Traffic usually soon follows. I typically target low-competition keywords on my Amazon sites and do light social bookmarking of each new product review. My sites are generally indexed and ranking within 48 hours and already collecting Amazon clicks.

      As mentioned in this thread, the key is targeting keywords and phrases that are low-competition, whether your site is product-based or info-based. This strategy works.
      I agree about the indexing. Get an Onlywire account and setup 30 or so social networks that you can post to with each new blog post. That's enough to get every page indexed rapidly as you add them.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

        I agree about the indexing. Get an Onlywire account and setup 30 or so social networks that you can post to with each new blog post. That's enough to get every page indexed rapidly as you add them.
        Yes. Definitely. I forgot to mention them! OnlyWire rocks for quick indexing.
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  • Profile picture of the author descover
    Hey,

    Indexation doesn't seem to be a problem. New content that I post gets index in less than 3 minutes. Practically instantly.

    My posts are what I would consider "high quality". I write them without really doing any kind of keyword research. I just try to stay on topic. Each post is anywhere between 700-1200 words. I'm basically trying to catch the weird longtail words/phrases that someone, somewhere might type in, but to no avail.

    Even though I might not be ranking for the longtail keyword that I'm targeting, it really confuses, surprises, and enrages me that that I'm not getting traffic at all.

    I have a total of 30 posts so far. The site is indexed.

    I would expect to be getting at least some kind of search engine traffic at this point, but sadly there's nothing. Not even ambiguous phrases that someone might type in sometimes. Traffic is zero/zilch.
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  • Profile picture of the author descover
    Nest, so how many post have you written thus far to gain those 27 visitors?
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    nest,

    how much have you earned so far from this site?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by descover View Post

      nest,

      how much have you earned so far from this site?
      Big fat zero, I haven't even put adsense on it yet. Once I see traffic reach at least 50 visitors a day I'll probably place adsense on this site.
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  • Profile picture of the author aquarious44
    Nest,
    This is an interesting thread with lots of good ideas. It also reinforces the theory of varied and quality links are best for longevity with Google.
    Mel
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    nice post, Its really knowledgeable for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author abangiz
    I'm doing this and manage to get about 20+ to 30 + visitor per day. But don't get any click yet.

    Is this normal?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by abangiz View Post

      I'm doing this and manage to get about 20+ to 30 + visitor per day. But don't get any click yet.

      Is this normal?
      How long have you been getting 30 to 40 visits with no clicks?
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      • Profile picture of the author abangiz
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        How long have you been getting 30 to 40 visits with no clicks?
        it have been 4 days...is it to early to see any kind of earning?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by abangiz View Post

          it have been 4 days...is it to early to see any kind of earning?
          Oh yea, way to early. There were times than one of my sites wouldn't make a any money for a week, than out of nowhere I'd make double the following week.

          There was this one time I got really worried because it had been 9 days since I saw a click, the next 3 weeks the site made triple what it normally makes. It ended up being my best month ever with that particular site.
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            I think the link in the OP is broken, not sure if you realised
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  • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
    typ in some keywords in google and go on like (until you find good long tails):

    - nurse salary a...
    then try
    - nurse salary b
    - nurse salary c
    - nurse salary d
    ....
    - nurse salary ab
    - nurse salary ac

    also you can start varying and mixing keywords like

    - is nurse salary
    - what nurse salary a
    etc.
    Keyword Researcher does this for you. I use it every day.
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    I wish we could get our own forum...Content Blogging...no backlinkers allowed!
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    • Profile picture of the author netightman
      Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

      I wish we could get our own forum...Content Blogging...no backlinkers allowed!
      Maybe we can establish an anti-backlinks alliance.


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      • Profile picture of the author computermesh
        Originally Posted by netightman View Post

        Maybe we can establish an anti-backlinks alliance.



        Yeah I love the idea of a site like that. Why I bought the domain name. Hope to turn it into something great. If NEST gets back with me maybe he will work on it with me.
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        If you build it, they will come. If you write it, they will read it. If it's good, well, they will tweet it, like it, share it, stumble it, pin it, post it, copy it, click it, buy it, question it, digg it and comment on it. Let's write useful, meaningful content on our sites and clean the internet up :)

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    It would be nice to never have to backlink again.
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      Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

      I wish we could get our own forum...Content Blogging...no backlinkers allowed!
      That would nice, maybe I'll make one

      Originally Posted by horst View Post

      OK, check this out. This tool makes the process described above much easier and saves a lot of time. and it is also FREE like the other tool.

      Keyword suggestion tool &mdash; Google suggest scraper &mdash; Übersuggest

      (Note: If you want to get even more long tail keywords you can copy and paste those suggestions into "scrapebox" into the keyword scraper tool. This way you can also find many ideas for fresh content for your site.)
      I check this tool out, really don't have a use for it, it's showing the same long tails everybody will go after. Take the warrior forum for example, it's a forum based on seo related terms right, now I'll put seo in the tool to see what it says.


      seo
      seomoz
      seoul
      seo tips
      seo tools
      seoul national university
      seorj
      seohyun
      seog grant
      seoul fm
      seo +
      seo tips
      seo tools
      seomoz
      seo services
      seo basics
      seo company
      seo software
      seo optimization
      seo quake
      seo book
      seo + a
      seo analysis
      seo and sem
      seo articles
      seo audit
      seo article writing
      seo agency
      seo arbiter
      seo analyst
      seo analysis free
      seo analytics
      seo + b
      seo basics
      seo book
      seo best practices
      seo blog
      seo best practices 2012
      seo backlinks
      seo browser
      seo by the sea
      seo book toolbar
      seo business
      seo + c
      seo company
      seo certification
      seo checklist
      seo consultant
      seo checker
      seo copywriting
      seo corporate law
      seo career
      seo conference
      seo classes
      seo + d
      seo definition
      seo do young
      seo doctor
      seo description
      seo dallas
      seo directories
      seo denver
      seo duplicate content
      seo destiny
      seo dong yo
      seo + e
      seo expert
      seo elite
      seo eun seo
      seo eun kwang
      seo experience
      seo evaluation
      seo experts academy
      seo engine
      seo examples
      seo education
      seo + f
      seo for dummies
      seo for wordpress
      seo for firefox
      seo forum
      seo for beginners
      seo friendly urls
      seo firm
      seo for chrome
      seo friendly
      seo for photographers
      seo + g
      seo google
      seo guide
      seo grader
      seo guidelines
      seo glossary
      seo georgetown
      seo google places
      seo generator
      seo godaddy
      seo gadget
      seo + h
      seo hosting
      seo help
      seo how to
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      seohyun
      seo hyun jin
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      seohaus
      seo + i
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      seo in young
      seo internship
      seo in guk wiki
      seo india
      seo inc
      seo interview questions
      seo is dead
      seo infographic
      seo images
      seo + j
      seo jobs
      seo ji hye
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      seo joomla
      seo japanese restaurant nyc
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      seo los angeles
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      seo leads
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      seomoz
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      seo toolbar
      seo tips 2012
      seo + u
      seo usa
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      seo url
      seo upenn
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      seo utah
      seo u
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      seo urban dictionary
      seo url length
      seo + v
      seo vs sem
      seo video
      seo vs ppc
      seo vps
      seo vietnam
      seo validator
      seo value
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      seo vancouver wa
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      seo + w
      seo woo
      seo writing
      seo wordpress
      seo wiki
      seo woo plastic surgery
      seo website
      seo wordpress plugin
      seo writer
      seo web design
      seo watch
      seo + x
      seo xray
      seo xml sitemap
      seo xray toolbar
      seo xml
      seo x cart
      seo xenforo
      seo xray tool
      seo xray seo firefox
      seo xperts
      seo xpress
      seo + y
      seo young deok
      seo yoast
      seo young hee
      seo yoon-jeong
      seo you jin
      seo young eun
      seo youtube
      seo young joo
      seo yale
      seo youtube videos
      seo + z
      seo zen cart
      seo zoologic
      seozio
      seo zombie hunt
      seo zaragoza
      seo zenfolio
      seo zip code
      seo zen cart module
      seo zac
      magic seo zen cart
      seo + 0
      seo 09 10
      seo 09 10 student room
      seo 08
      seo 0d+google+pagerank 0d+ip+reverse
      seo-0407
      wordpress seo 0.2.5.1
      arc seo-08
      000webhost seo
      seo suite v8.0 corporate
      seo by vbseo 3.3.0
      seo + 1
      seo 101
      seo 1
      seo 101 podcast
      seo 1 page
      seo 1 philadelphia
      seo 101 seomoz
      seo 1000
      seo 1 services
      seo 101 checklist
      seo 101 tools
      seo + 2
      seo 2012
      seo 2012 tips
      seo 2.0
      seo 2020
      seo 2012 annual awards dinner
      seo 2011
      seo 2012 book
      seo 2012 google
      seo 24/7 ltd
      seo 2012 techniques
      seo + 3
      seo 301 redirect
      seo 301 vs 302
      seo 302 redirect
      seo 302
      seo 300 words
      seo 301 redirect htaccess
      seo 301 redirect checker
      seo 301 302
      seo 3.0
      seo 3dcart
      seo + 4
      seo 411
      seo 404
      seo 4 anyone
      seo 404 pages
      seo 404 redirect
      seo 4 firefox
      seo 403
      seo 41 pr checker
      wordpress seo 404
      opencart seo 404
      seo + 5
      seo 55 exchange place
      seo 5
      seo 503
      seo 55 tips
      seo 5w 30
      seo 50 tips
      seo 503 error
      seo 5 steps
      seo 5 minutes
      seo 55
      seo + 6
      seo 6 easy steps
      seo 6j7
      seo-6
      seo 6j3
      seo 65 tips
      seo-686
      seo 69
      6 must-have seo basics
      dnn 6 seo
      stallion seo theme 6.2
      seo + 7
      seo 77
      seo 7
      seo 7 days
      seo-76
      seo 7 step
      seo 7 pack
      drupal seo 7
      master seo 705
      aeg seo 76
      learn seo 7 days
      seo + 8
      seo 80 20 rule
      seo 85016
      seo 8 steps
      seo 87 congreso
      seo 86 congreso
      seo 8nv
      seo 8
      seo suite 8.0 professional
      8 seo tips
      the 8-step seo strategy
      seo + 9
      seo 911
      seo 9
      seo 9l4
      seo $99
      seo-97 form
      seo 9000
      seo 99 month
      seo 970
      seo 9g8
      seo-97

      Now if I wanted to make a site on seo none of these terms would help me. Let's try internet marketing.

      internet marketing
      internet marketing
      internet marketing jobs
      internet marketing strategies
      internet marketing ninjas
      internet marketing forum
      internet marketing company
      internet marketing degree
      internet marketing blog
      internet marketing news
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      internet marketing + b
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      internet marketing + c
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      internet marketing events 2012
      internet marketing expo
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      internet marketing forum
      internet marketing for dummies
      internet marketing firm
      internet marketing for smart people
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      internet marketing for small business
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      internet marketing facts
      internet marketing for restaurants
      internet marketing for smart people podcast
      internet marketing + g
      internet marketing gurus
      internet marketing glossary
      internet marketing group
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      internet marketing graphics
      internet marketing grind
      internet marketing guide
      internet marketing growth
      internet marketing glossary of terms
      internet marketing greenville sc
      internet marketing + h
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      internet marketing highway
      internet marketing how to
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      internet marketing how to get started
      internet marketing helpline
      internet marketing headlines
      internet marketing hall of fame
      internet marketing headers
      internet marketing + i
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      internet marketing internship
      internet marketing images
      internet marketing illuminati
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      internet marketing indianapolis
      internet marketing industry
      internet marketing issues
      internet marketing idea machine
      internet marketing + j
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      internet marketing job titles
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      internet marketing jobs chicago
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      internet marketing jokes
      internet marketing joint ventures
      internet marketing jobs nyc
      internet marketing + k
      internet marketing keywords
      internet marketing kickstart
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      internet marketing kansas city
      internet marketing kongress 2012
      internet marketing kpi
      internet marketing kenya
      internet marketing kerala
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      internet marketing + l
      internet marketing las vegas
      internet marketing law
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      internet marketing lawyer
      internet marketing leads
      internet marketing lesson plans
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      internet marketing lingo
      internet marketing legal forms
      internet marketing lead generation
      internet marketing + m
      internet marketing magazine
      internet marketing manager
      internet marketing masters degree
      internet marketing mogul
      internet marketing manager salary
      internet marketing mentor
      internet marketing miami
      internet marketing metrics
      internet marketing mba
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      internet marketing + n
      internet marketing ninjas
      internet marketing news
      internet marketing ninjas reviews
      internet marketing newsletters
      internet marketing nj
      internet marketing new york
      internet marketing nh
      internet marketing niches
      internet marketing ninjas blog
      internet marketing new orleans
      internet marketing + o
      internet marketing online courses
      internet marketing orlando
      internet marketing opportunities
      internet marketing orange county
      internet marketing outsourcing
      internet marketing objectives
      internet marketing online
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      internet marketing oregon
      internetmarketing.com
      internet marketing + p
      internet marketing plan
      internet marketing party
      internet marketing plan template
      internet marketing podcast
      internet marketing proposal
      internet marketing packages
      internet marketing phoenix
      internet marketing programs
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      internet marketing products
      internet marketing + q
      internet marketing quotes
      internet marketing questions
      internet marketing qualifications
      internet marketing quiz
      internet marketing questionnaire
      internet marketing questionnaire research
      internet marketing question paper
      internet marketing questions interview
      internet marketing quotations
      internet marketing questions and answers
      internet marketing + r
      internet marketing resume
      internet marketing research
      internet marketing report
      internet marketing real estate
      internet marketing resources
      internet marketing research tools
      internet marketing raleigh nc
      internet marketing recruiters
      internet marketing radio
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      internet marketing + s
      internet marketing strategies
      internet marketing services
      internet marketing salary
      internet marketing statistics
      internet marketing software
      internet marketing specialist designation
      internet marketing solutions
      internet marketing specialist
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      internet marketing statistics 2012
      internet marketing + t
      internet marketing training
      internet marketing tips
      internet marketing tools
      internet marketing terms
      internet marketing trends
      internet marketing techniques
      internet marketing tampa
      internet marketing training center
      internet marketing tactics
      internet marketing this week
      internet marketing + u
      internet marketing utah
      internet marketing university
      internet marketing underground
      internet marketing university of san francisco
      internet marketing uk
      internet marketing universiteit
      internet marketing university of canada
      internet marketing unit 12
      internet marketing unit
      internet marketing usa
      internet marketing + v
      internet marketing virtual assistant
      internet marketing vs traditional marketing
      internet marketing videos
      internet marketing va
      internet marketing video production
      internet marketing video training
      internet marketing virginia beach
      internet marketing video player
      internet marketing video download
      internet marketing vs affiliate marketing
      internet marketing + w
      internet marketing wiki
      internet marketing website
      internet marketing webinars
      internet marketing west palm beach
      internet marketing wordpress themes
      internet marketing warriors
      internet marketing workshops
      internet marketing warrior forum
      internet marketing wso
      internet marketing website templates
      internet marketing + x
      internet marketing xxl
      mr x internet marketing
      xmg internet marketing group
      x factor internet marketing
      shoemoney xtreme internet marketing guides
      shoemoney xtreme internet marketing program
      xtreme internet marketing
      chris x internet-marketing
      michael x internet marketing
      andrew x internet marketing
      internet marketing + y
      internet marketing youtube
      internet marketing yahoo
      internet marketing your business
      internet marketing yahoo answers
      internet marketing yorkshire
      internet marketing your tourism business
      internet marketing+youth
      internet marketing for your website
      internet marketing yourself
      internet marketing your book
      internet marketing + z
      internet marketing z
      internet marketing zoom
      internet marketing zoom password
      internet marketing zimbabwe
      internet marketing zone
      internet marketing zarada
      internet marketing zeithaml
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      internet marketing + 0
      internet marketing web2.0
      internet marketing + 1
      internet marketing 101
      internet marketing 150
      internet marketing 1 of 1 inurl groups.google.com
      internet marketing 123
      internet marketing 100 success secrets
      internet marketing 1990s
      internet marketing 101 pdf
      wordstream internet marketing 150
      eben pagan internet marketing 101
      eben pagan internet marketing 101 password
      internet marketing + 2
      internet marketing 2012
      internet marketing 2.0
      internet marketing 2011 conferences
      internet marketing 2009
      internet marketing 21st century
      internet marketing 2010 trends
      internet marketing 2010 the road ahead
      internet marketing 2009 ebg
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      internet marketing + 3
      internet marketing 360 ltd
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      internet marketing 3
      internet marketing + 4
      internet marketing 4p's
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      internet marketing 4 newbies
      internet marketing 4th ed
      internet marketing 4th ed chaffey
      internet marketing 4 u
      4 kings internet marketing
      4 i's internet marketing
      internet marketing + 5
      http internet-marketing.5mp.eu
      top 5 internet marketing companies
      top 5 internet marketing strategies
      5 s internet marketing
      5 internet marketing tips
      505 internet marketing
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      5 p's internet marketing
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      internet marketing over 50
      internet marketing + 6
      internet marketing-6c
      6s internet marketing
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      internet marketing + 7
      internet marketing 7 ps
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      internet marketing 7cs filetype pdf
      internet marketing superconference 7
      7 stages-cycle of internet marketing
      7 great lies internet marketing
      7cs theory internet marketing
      7 deadly sins internet marketing
      3g marketing on the internet 7th ed
      internet marketing + 8
      80/20 internet marketing
      8 internet marketing scripts
      internet explorer 8 marketing
      chapter 8 internet marketing filetype ppt
      8020 internet marketing
      internet marketing + 9
      internet explorer 9 marketing
      internet marketing chapter 9

      Now you see all of these terms right, look at the thread title on the warrior forum, do you see any of these here. Thread titles are exactly like looking at the warrior forums analytic. If I were to make a seo/internet marketing site I would make post titles like.


      What's the best fiverr gig for backlinking

      What type of links should I build post penguin

      Whats the best adsense e-book for newbies

      How can I build an authority site fast

      Which wordpress plug-ins will help with seo

      Do I have to backlink in order to get traffic

      How to I get traffic from social media sites

      You wont find these in any tool, but there are plenty of people out there that would like to know the answers to these questions. That's why I say use yahoo answers because they show you what real people are searching for.

      Here are a few questions from yahoo answers.

      I want to start doing Internet Marketing but where do I start?

      How to start a affiliate internet marketing and be successful?

      Whats the best way to start an internet marketing business?

      What books can you recommend on internet marketing?

      Who is the best teacher for internet marketing or affiliated marketing in Mumbai?

      What internet marketing wealth secrets do people really need?

      Is there any Internet Marketing guru who would be happy if I promoted his successful internet money maker?

      This is why I like yahoo answers, it gives you a feel for what people want in your niche, and the questions there are close to the info you'll get in your analytic's.

      I almost never use keyword tools of any kind, the only time I use a keyword tool is to see how many exact searches a keyword has, just to make sure there's a great demand for the topic.




      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      It would be nice to never have to backlink again.
      According to Fraser you don't have to backlink, but if you go that route be prepared to wait a while before your sites takes off. But you can still promote your sites on social media sites.


      Edit: Whoa maybe I shouldn't have copy n pasted all those results, this post is really long lol.
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      • Profile picture of the author computermesh
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        That would nice, maybe I'll make one
        Too late man lol. Just bought that domain. contentblogging.com....I'd be interested in working with you to flesh it out if your interested. I am a huge fan of no backlinking and sticking strictly with content and on page seo. Could be a fun little project. Just shoot me a PM sometime and let me know.
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      • Profile picture of the author dakar
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        That would nice, maybe I'll make one
        According to Fraser you don't have to backlink, but if you go that route be prepared to wait a while before your sites takes off. But you can still promote your sites on social media sites.


        Edit: Whoa maybe I shouldn't have copy n pasted all those results, this post is really long lol.
        Ernest. How about answering those same questions on Yahoo answers? Would you consider that backlinking? Answering questions should get your post indexed pretty quickly.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by computermesh View Post

          Yeah I love the idea of a site like that. Why I bought the domain name. Hope to turn it into something great. If NEST gets back with me maybe he will work on it with me.
          Hey, I'd love to work on that with you. My new site has been taking up all my time recently, but I'll help in whatever way I can.

          Originally Posted by dakar View Post

          Ernest. How about answering those same questions on Yahoo answers? Would you consider that backlinking? Answering questions should get your post indexed pretty quickly.
          Yea, I hear answering yahoo questions is good for links and traffic.
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          • Profile picture of the author tomocal2010
            Hi Nest,
            Hope your good. please can you send me a pm with your email.
            I would like to talk to you about a proposition online. I have about 40 sites and i need some help
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Originally Posted by cbnet View Post

    Do you make a static site or a blog site. Can you provide us with link to your couple of sites so that we may see them.
    My sites are on blogger, I deleted all of my old sites and had them removed from google.
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    • Profile picture of the author lutherlars
      In all seriousness, why not find something you are passionate about and write articles yourself? That way, you save your money and can use it for other things that can help you down the road.
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    Originally Posted by cbnet View Post

    Can I make static site for adsense instead of a blog.
    Of course you can.
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  • Profile picture of the author peterb1234
    I have read both your threads and have learnt a hell of a lot.

    Thank you

    I am going to give your method a try.

    I am a writer so the content is not a problem for me. I have always found the SEO side of running a website daunting, but with this strategy it should not present a problem.

    I will keep a diary of my progress and may even start a thread to report to fellow warriors.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by tomocal2010 View Post

      Hi Nest,
      Hope your good. please can you send me a pm with your email.
      I would like to talk to you about a proposition online. I have about 40 sites and i need some help
      ernest1366@yahoo.com
      Originally Posted by thatkeywordguy View Post

      210 posts wow...
      There are other threads with twice as many posts as this one, but I'm always surprised to see this thread pop up every couple days.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Update:

    Lately I've been doing nothing but researching on page seo, especially since I don't plan on backlinking much. Before with my other sites I kinda took a lazy approach to seo, and just backlink for results. For example in the past and with this current site I always had more than a 100 urls on any given page because of the way I set up my sites navigation.

    So recently I incorporate some of the sub-categories into a larger category to reduce the number of urls on any page.

    I only have one post on the homepage to avoid duplicate content issues. I have asked Yukon for some seo advice, on themed pages ,silo structure etc. So he took a look at my site and gave me some great tips that I will be following.

    Another thing on my list is to have certain widgets appear on homepage, and another set on post pages. So for example homepage will display, 1 adsense block, a few polls,follow by e-mail etc. The widgets that will display in the side bar on post pages will be about the posts themselves such as, popular posts,recent posts, recent comments etc, this is so they see everything that is related to this particle article and to try and get the visitor to read one of the popular post or recent post, or to at least leave a comment.


    So basically right now I'm just focused on my site, next I'll be focusing on social media and how to get traffic from facebook and twitter.

    Daily visitors are in the teens to mid twenties, some got to my site through long tail post titles while others got there by shorter post titles.


    Not every post title is long tail, or in question form, some are just statements. But if I talk about the best nursing school in texas I make sure to include the names of the schools in post title this helps a lot.

    I plan on making this a long term project, so I'm not in a rush to receive traffic, I do a couple things a day to this site, that's all. Over time these things really add up. If you ask anyone with a large authority site how long it took them to receive large amounts of traffic I'm sure they wouldn't say oh just a couple weeks.
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  • Profile picture of the author dakar
    Awesome info, thanks again Ernest.

    I want to know if you have the same problem as I'm having (or if anyone else has this problem). When I compare Google analytics to Google webmaster tools, I am not seeing the same search terms. I've read that webmaster tools has a delay, but even if I go back 1 month and compare 1 week of results, analytics gives me totally different keywords than webmaster tools.

    Do you see the same differences between the two? Which tool do you focus more for search terms that people are using to find your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    I finally got some money to spend on articles, but I am unsure with the niche picking, because I am afraid of failure (only money i have). Can anyone help me to pick a niche that I can find enough long tail keywords for, and get a decent traffic. If that not going to take much of your time. Any help appreciated. Thanks! Add me on skype if you wish to suggest anything to me. Skype name: danijel.bjelancevic
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    I tried to write articles by myself, but it was hard for me. So now I want to pick good topic which pays good with adsense, i know main ones that are paid good, but unsure which one to pick exactly.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Oh yea I also forgot to mention I gave my blog rotating h1 tags. The homepage title will have h1 tag, but when you click on a post, the title of the post has h1, and the blog title becomes h2.

    I also have bookmark buttons ate the end of each post, to 13 of the most popular social media sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    One of my blogs now has 160 posts. It is 60 days old with about 5 visitors per day. If I remember correctly from past blogs, it takes 90 days before you get any sizable traffic. I write almost everyday. I'm shooting for 1000 posts by June 2013. I will post my progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    when u used yahoo answer did you make them as the exact title or you make your own title?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      when u used yahoo answer did you make them as the exact title or you make your own title?
      I use similar titles, but don't make all your post in question form, mix it up between statements and questions.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    This (link below) will help you guys out with creating unique page titles that target the [exact] same keyword/traffic as the page titles you find on sites like Yahoo-Answers, etc...

    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ge-titles.html
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      This (link below) will help you guys out with creating unique page titles that target the [exact] same keyword/traffic as the page titles you find on sites like Yahoo-Answers, etc...

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ge-titles.html
      Thank you Mr. Yukon. Your so smart you make me feel stupid lol, but seriously I do feel like hey, why didn't I think of that.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Thank you Mr. Yukon. Your so smart you make me feel stupid lol, but seriously I do feel like hey, why didn't I think of that.
        I'm not trying to make anyone feel stupid, just trying to help.

        SEO is a never ending learning experience, even for myself. I think the learning part is the best part of SEO, I would be bored out of my mind If I wasn't constantly learning new things.

        When I was a kid I would always be getting into trouble for taking things apart (appliances, etc...) to see how they worked (lol).

        I just can't leave things alone, I always have to figure out why something works the way it does (example: seo).

        As long as where all having fun, that's all that matters.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          I'm not trying to make anyone feel stupid, just trying to help.

          SEO is a never ending learning experience, even for myself. I think the learning part is the best part of SEO, I would be bored out of my mind If I wasn't constantly learning new things.

          When I was a kid I would always be getting into trouble for taking things apart (appliances, etc...) to see how they worked (lol).

          I just can't leave things alone, I always have to figure out why something works the way it does (example: seo).

          As long as where all having fun, that's all that matters.
          Sometimes I just get frustrated, when I have to have the answer given to me instead of me figuring it out myself. Even though you are still learning, you already have a wealth of knowledge that I can only dream of obtaining.


          Lately I've be seeing just how much of a novice I really am with seo. Without being able to mass produce links with amr,fiverr,seo link robot etc, I'm stuck.

          I want to get the ball rolling on this new site, but I'm very cautious as to what type of links to build, all I know is running software for results.

          This is why I feel like I'm just now becoming a real marketer, and not just some guy who finds keywords and builds backlinks using spammy methods.

          People think it's easy building a authority site without backlinking, they say "if you build it they will not come".

          It is in fact extremely difficult to build a site without backlinking, to use social media instead, or finding quality links, I see now why this road is the one less traveled.

          In terms of seo and internet marketing I'm still a rookie, but I'm learning and like you said the fact the it is a never ending process to keep learning and improving on your skills is what appeals to me the most.

          I actually spent hours , I'm talking about 6 to 8 hours day, just reading ,researching testing things out, and also working on site.

          Even today I was tempted to use a fiverr gig because it said "I'll create 9 edu links on pr9 sites" until I check the comments and somebody said that the page were his links was had 500 out going links.

          I changed my mind wit the quickness lol, I can see I have my work cut out for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Originally Posted by horst View Post

    nest you talked somewhere about themed articles. do you use software like web content studio or something smilar?
    No software. Once a article is written it usually mentions other related topics in my niche.

    For example:

    How to Become a Nurse Practitioner

    A nurse practitioner provides health care services similar to those of a physician. There are several specialty areas for nurse practitioners, including family, pediatric and geriatric nursing. Those interested in becoming a nurse practitioner require at least a master's degree and licensing according to state regulations.


    Step 1: Earn an Undergraduate Degree in Nursing
    Aspiring nurse practitioners can begin their education by earning an associate or bachelor's degree in nursing. Completion of an undergraduate degree program prepares students for entry-level positions in clinical settings and meets state requirements for licensure as a registered nurse (RN). An associate degree program usually takes two years to complete, and credit can often transfer to a bachelor's degree completion program.

    Schools offer several options for those interested in earning a bachelor's degree, including full 4-year programs, accelerated programs for associate degree-holders, completion programs for licensed RNs and online options for those with sufficient education and experience backgrounds. Students on a path to becoming a nurse practitioner will need to earn a bachelor's degree to qualify for the necessary graduate study. Common courses in undergraduate nursing programs include:

    Patient care types
    Pharmacology
    Anatomy and physiology
    Health assessment
    Pediatric nursing
    Mental and community health
    Step 2: Become a Registered Nurse
    Every state requires a practicing nurse to first pass the National Council Licensure Examination for Registered Nurses (NCLEX-RN). Additional licensing and registration requirements, which typically include background checks and fingerprinting, may be required at the state level. Before continuing to pursue a graduate degree or advanced nursing licensure, an RN license is required.

    Step 3: Complete a Graduate Degree in Nursing
    Registered nurses with a bachelor's degree who are interested in becoming nurse practitioners can qualify for the position by earning a master's or doctoral degree in nursing. Many nurse practitioners specialize in a specific area of medicine, such as pediatrics or family medicine, during their graduate study. These programs typically take 2-3 years and require students to take courses, seminars and lectures in addition to completing a clinical residency. Common courses include:

    Healthcare management
    Clinical reasoning and diagnosis
    Pathophysiology
    Advanced pharmacology
    Step 4: Obtain Advanced Practice Nursing Licensure
    Most states require additional licensure to work as an advanced practice nurses. In addition to nurse practitioner, other licenses within this field include clinical nursing, nurse anesthetics, psychiatric nursing and nursing midwifery. Some states require nurse practitioners to obtain special licensing in order to prescribe medication. The most common requirements include a minimum of a master's degree in advanced nursing, a valid RN license and passing a national certification or state-issued examination. Many states require continuing education classes or maintenance of a national certification to renew a license.

    Step 5: Specialize Through Certification
    The successful completion of a graduate degree program and licensure requirements prepare graduates to sit for certification examinations specific to their careers. The American Academy of Nurse Practitioners (AANP) and the American Nurses Credentialing Center (ANCC) are two organizations that offer national certification commonly recognized by state nursing boards. Certification usually requires passing an examination, and most organizations mandate continuing education to maintain the credentials. Available specialty examinations nurse practitioners may choose from include:

    Acute care
    Diabetes management
    Family care
    School nursing
    Mental health
    Pediatrics







    Now this is not one of my articles, I just copy and pasted it from here How to Become a Nurse Practitioner

    Ok lets say I'm making a site on nurses but I don't know anything about this career. I would have a article just like this one written explaining "How to Become a Nurse Practitioner" now inside the article will be lots of related terms that I can use for my site, and I can use them as supporting (themed pages) as Yukon as instructed.

    So let's look for these terms.

    Patient care types
    Pharmacology
    Anatomy and physiology
    Health assessment
    Pediatric nursing
    Healthcare management
    Clinical reasoning and diagnosis
    Pathophysiology
    Advanced pharmacology
    Acute care
    Diabetes management
    Family care
    School nursing
    Mental health
    Pediatrics
    (ANCC)
    (AANP)
    nursing midwifery
    (NCLEX-RN)
    undergraduate nursing programs
    advanced nursing licensure
    clinical nursing
    nurse anesthetics
    psychiatric nursing

    All these terms are are included inside of this one article, they can be used to make plenty of other articles.

    I don't use software at all for anything, except making a few social bookmarks here and there.
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  • Profile picture of the author karukera
    Pretty inspiring stuff. I’m actually starting a similar project as well. Been in IM for 4 years but coming from paid traffic, I’m only starting to dab into wordpress and site building now. A question here, how do you go about the technical side of the site structure/silo/internal linking. I’m quite new to building sites on my own (used to outsourcing too much haha) but this time I’m building everything from scratch (except content of course).

    I’d also love to get in touch with you privately to bounce SEO ideas off each other as I’m starting a pretty big site myself.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by karukera View Post

      Pretty inspiring stuff. I'm actually starting a similar project as well. Been in IM for 4 years but coming from paid traffic, I'm only starting to dab into wordpress and site building now. A question here, how do you go about the technical side of the site structure/silo/internal linking. I'm quite new to building sites on my own (used to outsourcing too much haha) but this time I'm building everything from scratch (except content of course).

      I'd also love to get in touch with you privately to bounce SEO ideas off each other as I'm starting a pretty big site myself.
      Sure here's my e-mail address ernest1366@yahoo.com or hit me up on facebook. If you want to know about silo structure and internal linking you may want to holla at Yukon, he is a expert on all of that type stuff.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtech
    I think too many people are afraid of long tail keywords because of the potential to do "too much" work for smaller results. But you can rank a long-tail without much effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author eezymoney
    Nest - the information you have imparted and the questions you have answered are amazing.

    Much better than most wso's on the subject I'm sure!

    My one big worry with this strategy would be that some stupid manual reviewer comes along and bans your adsense account, a bit like they did with Spencer Hawes. Although, I think he was a bit different in that he had a whole blog devoted to building micro niches, whereas your sites obviously add value.

    But, I know how slap happy google has become in the last few months and it would worry me to invest so much to have it all pulled away in one instant... or is this just another barrier that I've got to overcome to get my IM 'business' moving forward.

    All the best to you for going through all these questions, so thoroughly - given this thread 5 stars.
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      Originally Posted by eezymoney View Post

      Nest - the information you have imparted and the questions you have answered are amazing.

      Much better than most wso's on the subject I'm sure!

      My one big worry with this strategy would be that some stupid manual reviewer comes along and bans your adsense account, a bit like they did with Spencer Hawes. Although, I think he was a bit different in that he had a whole blog devoted to building micro niches, whereas your sites obviously add value.

      But, I know how slap happy google has become in the last few months and it would worry me to invest so much to have it all pulled away in one instant... or is this just another barrier that I've got to overcome to get my IM 'business' moving forward.

      All the best to you for going through all these questions, so thoroughly - given this thread 5 stars.
      I didn't check out all of the pages, so I'm not sure if your strategy is simply optimizing your website for long-tail keywords. If so, that normally does not cause a banning from Adsense. Additionally, to protect yourself from them, all you need to do is to diversify your income. Monetize your websites with CPA offers, Amazon, and other affiliate networks.
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    great info thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by HFlame7 View Post

      I didn't check out all of the pages, so I'm not sure if your strategy is simply optimizing your website for long-tail keywords. If so, that normally does not cause a banning from Adsense. Additionally, to protect yourself from them, all you need to do is to diversify your income. Monetize your websites with CPA offers, Amazon, and other affiliate networks.
      I agree there is no reason that someone making a authority site this way should get banned, secondly I do plan on using cpa in addition to adsense in the future.

      Originally Posted by bigjonnyg View Post

      great info thanks!
      Your welcome my friend.

      Originally Posted by eezymoney View Post

      Nest - the information you have imparted and the questions you have answered are amazing.

      Much better than most wso's on the subject I'm sure!

      My one big worry with this strategy would be that some stupid manual reviewer comes along and bans your adsense account, a bit like they did with Spencer Hawes. Although, I think he was a bit different in that he had a whole blog devoted to building micro niches, whereas your sites obviously add value.

      But, I know how slap happy google has become in the last few months and it would worry me to invest so much to have it all pulled away in one instant... or is this just another barrier that I've got to overcome to get my IM 'business' moving forward.

      All the best to you for going through all these questions, so thoroughly - given this thread 5 stars.
      If you have a couple hundred pages of useful info ,you have a very slim chance of getting banned. Making a large authority site is a great long term goal, be prepared to see major results a yr after making it.

      I would advise to have short term goals, and long term goals. Maybe make a few micro niche sites that will rank well and bring in money right away, but at the same time still work on your long term goals which will be the authority site.

      Also youtube is another option, I play around with it for a week, at first I made 4 cent lol, than I just kept getting clicks after that, in total I made 1.04 in a weeks time with 18 vids, and a total combined views of 1,700.

      I know most people are like a dollar is nothing, but it's a start, plus I made some mistakes, some of the vids I used were already on youtube which is why they didn't get many views, but even after I deleted the ones that were already on there i still continued to get clicks, from the remaining 7 vids.


      Oh yea, happy 4th of July everybody, good luck with your sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author idrinkcoors
        Hi Nest,

        Thank you for posting your strategy. I was going nowhere in IM with my focus on backlinking my 5 page site. Now I've picked out a niche that I love and I'm doing nothing but adding content and trying to provide value to the reader (what a new concept).

        So far I've built up a 30 page site and I'm making a little bit each day. It's not an impressive amount - the point is I'm starting to make money. My page views have gone from 200 a month, to 200 per day. You've taught me that if you want more visitors, you just have to provide more quality content.

        You and FraserC are spot on when you say put all that energy you were spending on backlinks, and use it to create content that people actually want. I'm excited about my IM future thanks to you guys. Now back to content creation.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by idrinkcoors View Post

          Hi Nest,

          Thank you for posting your strategy. I was going nowhere in IM with my focus on backlinking my 5 page site. Now I've picked out a niche that I love and I'm doing nothing but adding content and trying to provide value to the reader (what a new concept).

          So far I've built up a 30 page site and I'm making a little bit each day. It's not an impressive amount - the point is I'm starting to make money. My page views have gone from 200 a month, to 200 per day. You've taught me that if you want more visitors, you just have to provide more quality content.

          You and FraserC are spot on when you say put all that energy you were spending on backlinks, and use it to create content that people actually want. I'm excited about my IM future thanks to you guys. Now back to content creation.
          That's great, happy to see your doing well.
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      • Profile picture of the author calculon
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I agree there is no reason that someone making a authority site this way should get banned, secondly I do plan on using cpa in addition to adsense in the future.
        I also agree.

        There is one way I know of- if you don't update your WP site and plugins periodically, or don't lock down security on your site, you can get hacked, and the hacker can pose as an admin, posting articles. If the articles are on subjects that adsense TOS forbids- anything x-rated, gambling, drugs, guns etc- you can get banned. Although in the past they usually send you a warning about your account, that particular domain got banned from running adsense. (Happened to "a friend" I know)

        But this scenario is much more likely to happen when you are running 200 5 page sites rather than 1 1000 page site, since you will be watching that site like a hawk. One more reason why this approach is better.
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        • Profile picture of the author dakar
          Originally Posted by calculon View Post

          I also agree.

          There is one way I know of- if you don't update your WP site and plugins periodically, or don't lock down security on your site, you can get hacked, and the hacker can pose as an admin, posting articles. If the articles are on subjects that adsense TOS forbids- anything x-rated, gambling, drugs, guns etc- you can get banned. Although in the past they usually send you a warning about your account, that particular domain got banned from running adsense. (Happened to "a friend" I know)

          But this scenario is much more likely to happen when you are running 200 5 page sites rather than 1 1000 page site, since you will be watching that site like a hawk. One more reason why this approach is better.
          Great tip. Having someone hack a site to post malicious content never really crossed my mind but its definitely something to look out for. I am building an authority site but I'm not using WP, all of my stuff is custom coded.
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          • Profile picture of the author BravoOne
            Nest, how is that latest page doing?
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    dude friggin awesome post man!! I read this and thought to myself, wow here's a cat that actually knows what's up and is giving us all in the forum to learn from that and completely bypass the same mistakes that he made along the way.

    You are so right btw regarding the long tails and getting enough traffic to make income from them. The basics of internet marketing is always to get alot of traffic but also conversions. So that when you make sites based around a bunch of topics that alot of people have questions on..then of course you will get more traffic from long tails that have a ton of searches.

    And then when you build a site that solves a specific problem that these searchers have, you can create a nice business online and live the internet dream.
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  • Profile picture of the author thatkeywordguy
    I'd love to here more stories of people using long tails. I think it is one of the few "back doors" that actually works
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    how can we apply in yahoo advertisement program?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by BravoOne View Post

      Nest, how is that latest page doing?
      I haven't work on my site in a while, it's kind of just sitting there. In the coming months I'll be doing a lot of experimenting ,builting new sites in other niches besides medical, and also use cpa,amazon etc.

      Originally Posted by sanakhatri View Post

      how can we apply in yahoo advertisement program?
      I have no idea.
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    • Profile picture of the author dakar
      Originally Posted by sanakhatri View Post

      how can we apply in yahoo advertisement program?
      Do you mean that you want to start Pay Per Click on yahoo?
      You would need to apply to adcenter. here is the link

      Microsoft Search Advertising

      I'm actually using them to drive traffic to the authority site that I created a few months ago.
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    But you can't buy traffic for adsense pages right?
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  • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
    Just found this and the original thread and Im really excited. Ive been writing content for years but never got much into actual SEO or how the guys buying my content are actually using it. This method makes total sense to me now... A long time ago I tried out associated content and threw up like 15 quicky little articles on there. The ones that were small keyword focused did poorly. On a whim I wrote a quicky little 300 word article on "what guns should I use in XXXXX (video game)" That article got 10's of thousands of hits and I put pretty much no keyword research into it at all, but after looking at it again, I actually had a ton of non-intentional longtail kweywords in it and it answered a question that tons of people had for this very popular game....which is why it got hit a bunch on the SERPS

    Im totally just going to focus on finding a decent paying niche that has a ton of people asking questions about it. Answer all those questions....booya... authority site. easy peasy...forget backlinking... im better and faster at making good content anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
    quick question...

    Many of the really higher paying keywords are extremely saturated. could this "method" (I hate using that word) essentially allow you to still successfully compete in these niches by targeting long tail keywords or "questions" rather than focusing on the same block of high-search volume one or two word keywords that everyone else is fighting backlink wars over?
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by RickCopy View Post

      quick question...

      Many of the really higher paying keywords are extremely saturated. could this "method" (I hate using that word) essentially allow you to still successfully compete in these niches by targeting long tail keywords or "questions" rather than focusing on the same block of high-search volume one or two word keywords that everyone else is fighting backlink wars over?
      You could create a 2 page article/content, leave Adsense off the first article/content page, then use internal links to move the traffic to the 2nd higher paying keyword internal page, when the traffic is finished reading the first page/content..

      That way you could still monetize the high paying keyword without ever worrying about ranking the 2nd high comp. keyword page.

      Use the first page to lure the traffic in low comp. SERPs, use the 2nd relevant page to earn $$.

      Basically, all roads (internal links) on the easy SERP comp. traffic page lead to money pages.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by RickCopy View Post

        quick question...

        Many of the really higher paying keywords are extremely saturated. could this "method" (I hate using that word) essentially allow you to still successfully compete in these niches by targeting long tail keywords or "questions" rather than focusing on the same block of high-search volume one or two word keywords that everyone else is fighting backlink wars over?
        I recently used this method on some high competition keywords and I'm not getting any traffic to those long tail article, I think this work before because my homepage had a bunch of links which powered up the long tail articles.
        My new site doens't have to many links.

        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        You could create a 2 page article/content, leave Adsense off the first article/content page, then use internal links to move the traffic to the 2nd higher paying keyword internal page, when the traffic is finished reading the first page/content..

        That way you could still monetize the high paying keyword without ever worrying about ranking the 2nd high comp. keyword page.

        Use the first page to lure the traffic in low comp. SERPs, use the 2nd relevant page to earn $$.

        Basically, all roads (internal links) on the easy SERP comp. traffic page lead to money pages.
        Great idea.
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      • Profile picture of the author RickCopy
        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        You could create a 2 page article/content, leave Adsense off the first article/content page, then use internal links to move the traffic to the 2nd higher paying keyword internal page, when the traffic is finished reading the first page/content..

        That way you could still monetize the high paying keyword without ever worrying about ranking the 2nd high comp. keyword page.

        Use the first page to lure the traffic in low comp. SERPs, use the 2nd relevant page to earn $$.

        Basically, all roads (internal links) on the easy SERP comp. traffic page lead to money pages.
        this is awesome. I would have never thought about this... so essentially (I'll just pick a saturated niche off the top of my head for an example)

        If Im trying to break into the PUA (pick up artist/how to get girls) niche I'd focus on getting traffic to my "where is the best place to find new women in my area?" or "where am I going wrong with women?" (something like that) with a 2-part article ...and the 2nd page focusing all my on-page SEO and keywords around "pickup artist" or "how to get girls"?

        so essentially im targeting all the low hanging, easy to rank fruit but getting paid for clicks in the super high competitive niche?

        sounds like a plan!
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        • Profile picture of the author edatepro
          Great thinking you hit the nail I. the head!
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          • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
            I'm done with SEO software, backlinks,keyword software etc,

            But I'm done doing things the warrior forum way.
            Couldn't agree more. There's a place for legitimate SEO, but this isn't the way. There's a place for pursuing links, but not the ones you give yourself.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

              Couldn't agree more. There's a place for legitimate SEO, but this isn't the way. There's a place for pursuing links, but not the ones you give yourself.

              Learning that lesson at place like this is extremely difficult especially for newbies, they see everyone talking about Magic Submitter and Adsense/Amazon niche sites and they follow along making crappy sites out of sheer ignorance.


              I always wanted to make a impact online, make a living but from one site and I'm currently pursuing that dream, I suggest others do the same. Make sites you can be proud to call yours, that help people or make some kind of difference.



              The reason ideals like that isn't the norm here is because it takes time to build sites like that, not to mention hard work, a lot of people here want to make money fast and there in lies the problem.

              Edit: To all my haters, aint it funny how I don't even come here anymore yet my old threads resurface all the time, usually with a 4 or 5 star rating at that lol. And they say I didn't contribute, yea right.
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              • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                Learning that lesson at place like this is extremely difficult especially for newbies, they see everyone talking about Magic Submitter and Adsense/Amazon niche sites and they follow along making crappy sites out of sheer ignorance.


                I always wanted to make a impact online, make a living but from one site and I'm currently pursuing that dream, I suggest others do the same. Make sites you can be proud to call yours, that help people or make some kind of difference.



                The reason ideals like that isn't the norm here is because it takes time to build sites like that, not to mention hard work, a lot of people here want to make money fast and there in lies the problem.

                Edit: To all my haters, aint it funny how I don't even come here anymore yet my old threads resurface all the time, usually with a 4 or 5 star rating at that lol. And they say I didn't contribute, yea right.

                Adsense/Amazon has nothing to do with the quality of the site, it's the person that builds the site. True, most here (not all) have the MFA mentality, but that's only because they don't know they have options, or they're simply lazy.

                Some the largest/best sites on the net run advertisements. Just saying.
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by yukon View Post

                  Adsense/Amazon has nothing to do with the quality of the site, it's the person that builds the site. True, most here (not all) have the MFA mentality, but that's only because they don't know they have options, or they're simply lazy.

                  Some the largest/best sites on the net run advertisements. Just saying.
                  I have nothing against Adsense or Amazon, they just happen to be associated with small crappy niche sites. I currently have accounts with both and may put them to good use in the future.


                  All I would like to see is people making great sites, it really doesn't matter how they are monetized, Adsense, Amazon, Clickbank, Self made products etc.
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              • Profile picture of the author paulgl
                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                Learning that lesson at place like this is extremely difficult especially for newbies, they see everyone talking about Magic Submitter and Adsense/Amazon niche sites and they follow along making crappy sites out of sheer ignorance.


                I always wanted to make a impact online, make a living but from one site and I'm currently pursuing that dream, I suggest others do the same. Make sites you can be proud to call yours, that help people or make some kind of difference.



                The reason ideals like that isn't the norm here is because it takes time to build sites like that, not to mention hard work, a lot of people here want to make money fast and there in lies the problem.

                Edit: To all my haters, aint it funny how I don't even come here anymore yet my old threads resurface all the time, usually with a 4 or 5 star rating at that lol. And they say I didn't contribute, yea right.
                Funny thing. My most profitable site is one I started in 1997. It started out
                as my career-related site, morphed into somewhat authority, now kicks
                butt. Never even thought of monetizing, just wanted a little net fame...
                I nurtured that baby over the years. It's paid off big time.

                I guess I will always be biased when it comes to making websites.
                Hand coded, niche I know something about and can make it a
                valuable resource, etc.

                I joined squidoo and made lenses in much the same way.

                I have let a few dot coms go, as I just don't have any heart
                into them.

                People are now "making" (I use that term loosely) websites
                today much the same way that they blow 10 bucks on lottery
                tickets. They expect millions with little or no effort, just tossing
                anything random.

                Paul
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by paulgl View Post


                  People are now "making" (I use that term loosely) websites
                  today much the same way that they blow 10 bucks on lottery
                  tickets. They expect millions with little or no effort, just tossing
                  anything random.

                  Paul
                  It's funny though, you can't even get through to that crowd, it's like they wont listen to reason. X-factor said make 100 sites all designed to earn 1 a day, make them horrible on purpose so people want to click the ads and leave, thousands took his advice, yet when I say make good sites, put time and hard work into them, I get people who want to take cheap shots, call me names, put me and my views down.


                  I'll never understand it.
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