no1 on page 1 Google ---- Now page 8!!!

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My keyword sensitive website was at number 1 in Google, for the last few weeks - pretty much from when I created it, until last night.
I have checked it this evening, and it was way back on page 8! Is there a reason for this? Will it bounce back up again?

Thanks in advance...
#google #no1 #page
  • Profile picture of the author SpiderZq
    it might be a google dance, don't worry continue your backlink work. it'll be back.
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    • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
      COuld be the google dance? Did you conduct any black hat techniques to get yourself into the rankings intially? I ask only because they typically have short term results in the search engines.
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  • Profile picture of the author carlosthejackal
    Originally Posted by whitworldwide View Post

    My keyword sensitive website was at number 1 in Google, for the last few weeks - pretty much from when I created it, until last night.
    I have checked it this evening, and it was way back on page 8! Is there a reason for this? Will it bounce back up again?

    Thanks in advance...
    Any messages in Webmaster Tools?
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  • Profile picture of the author ktonline
    Are you getting massive backlinks in short period of time?
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    • Profile picture of the author whitworldwide
      Nothing in Webmaster Tools. I have very few backlinks to the site
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  • Profile picture of the author Pyramid Linkers
    A large number of links at one time can do this to a new site. Also, if you have been blog networks as your primary link source, the majority of your links may have been deindexed or devalued. Just keep on building links consistently and your site will return. if your content is original and your onpage seo is good then it most certainly has something to do with your backlinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pyramid Linkers
    Ok, well build more links. The search engine may not consider your site an authority on the subject if you don't receive in "votes" ie backlinks to your pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    To me it looks like you just need to start building links...

    Can't expect to stay at the top while not link building
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Add new content and some high quality links. You should be fine within a week or two. Keep us updated. Also be on the look-out for negative SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author iklanbaris33
    Just relax guys..I frequently experience it..It's what people call google dance or google sandbox..If i myself..I just wait and see...Sooner or later the site will be back and even get higher rank...
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    When this happened to me, I added 10 more pages of good content and it did the trick.
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  • Profile picture of the author lisadan1
    I think you should not give more attention to these as this happen due to Google Dance and you start your work and it will be sort out soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeolinStella
    Obviously it might be Google dance. Never bother about that.
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  • Profile picture of the author StanTman
    Keep or slightly increase link velocity even if you reach #1.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    It happens frequently, be patient and get correct position back. Make sure that you keep backlink velocity
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  • Profile picture of the author ProPowerSEO
    PM me your website link and i will take a look. We advise on when google has penalized or what your issue more than likely is.

    Very unlikely this is a Google dance if you went from number 1 to page 8.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProPowerSEO
    Sand boxing would be more likely than a google dance issue. How old is the domain?
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  • Profile picture of the author sherryfaty
    your pagerank is the most important to get no 1 position
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    • Profile picture of the author ProPowerSEO
      Pr does help, but I wouldn't agree its the most important factor. We hold countless number one positions with PRs less than competitors.
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    • Profile picture of the author boosters
      Originally Posted by sherryfaty View Post

      your pagerank is the most important to get no 1 position
      Totally disagree.. i never think about PR but definitely think about Domain PR not Page PR... One of my keyword page PR is 1 and my competitors page is 3+ but still hero is no1

      I just see one of my other keyword is slipped from page 2 to 8.. I have to careful now with my backlinks practice of that keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author indybail
    Could it be a over-optimizing situation mentioned by Matt Cutts recently?
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonB
    Just sounds like what everyone calls the "Google Dance"...

    Nothing to worry about just yet.
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  • Profile picture of the author TI Networks
    Google Penalty is Google Dance?
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  • Profile picture of the author John Williamson
    Many websites have been jumping/dancing around the past few weeks with the new update G rolled out with recently. We'll have to see where things settle at and go from there.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Originally Posted by whitworldwide View Post

    My keyword sensitive website was at number 1 in Google, for the last few weeks - pretty much from when I created it, until last night.
    New site, got a push to the top, didn't stick accordingly to Google standards. See, Google does this to many new sites (don't know exact % and to be honest don't care). Googledoes this to test them, to see the "public reaction" to these new sites. Then, if they don't follow G's standards, they are kicked back to kazillion pages. That's the hard truth. It's a complicated mix of numerous aspects BUT one of them is definitely "public reaction" to that website.

    Then you mentioned this:

    Nothing in Webmaster Tools.
    Well, you just gave G a heads-up of all your site. Everything. And that usually is a bad thing, especially with new sites with short authority online. Thats why new sites shouldn't use analytics/webmasters tools. That way they have more time to "breath" and to create good "public reaction".

    It's a damn hard mix and I ain't sharing it here, but I get amazed with so many ignorant users pushing their agendas and giving bad advice in here. Thats why I decided to drop this bit of info - take it or leave it, I honestly don't care. From past experience I know many of you will read this and buy more backlinks or another stupid system... it's just how it goes.

    This SEO sub-forum is nothing more then a remix of used information. Arrggghh. It hurt my eyes.
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    • Profile picture of the author whitworldwide
      Originally Posted by Fernando Veloso View Post

      New site, got a push to the top, didn't stick accordingly to Google standards. See, Google does this to many new sites (don't know exact % and to be honest don't care). Googledoes this to test them, to see the "public reaction" to these new sites. Then, if they don't follow G's standards, they are kicked back to kazillion pages. That's the hard truth. It's a complicated mix of numerous aspects BUT one of them is definitely "public reaction" to that website.

      Then you mentioned this:



      Well, you just gave G a heads-up of all your site. Everything. And that usually is a bad thing, especially with new sites with short authority online. Thats why new sites shouldn't use analytics/webmasters tools. That way they have more time to "breath" and to create good "public reaction".

      It's a damn hard mix and I ain't sharing it here, but I get amazed with so many ignorant users pushing their agendas and giving bad advice in here. Thats why I decided to drop this bit of info - take it or leave it, I honestly don't care. From past experience I know many of you will read this and buy more backlinks or another stupid system... it's just how it goes.

      This SEO sub-forum is nothing more then a remix of used information. Arrggghh. It hurt my eyes.
      Hi Fernando,

      The site was never submitted into Webmaster tools in fairness.

      The domain is keyword driven. Is about 6 weeks old. Even when I had no content on the site, it still made the first page. Then all of a sudden it falls from 1st place down to page 8.

      I'm hoping it's this 'Google dance' that everyone mentions!
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  • Profile picture of the author Enirose Gabales
    Must be a newish site. Remember the 1st 3 months you will be bouncing all over the place.

    You ment to say you hope it is just a Google Dance, otherwise you got a lot of work on your hands.

    You need backlinks.

    edit: Its only 6 weeks old you have to give it a chance...
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Coudriet
    Has it fallen for all keyword phrases or just one that you are tracking? Are your varying the anchor text in your backlinks? Chances are its just dancing, feed it some stead links with varying anchor text regularly.

    If this domain is just a few months old, this is the norm.
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  • Profile picture of the author diandao
    i meet same problem with you.my first homepage is gone,but find one category article on page 10.

    Originally Posted by whitworldwide View Post

    My keyword sensitive website was at number 1 in Google, for the last few weeks - pretty much from when I created it, until last night.
    I have checked it this evening, and it was way back on page 8! Is there a reason for this? Will it bounce back up again?

    Thanks in advance...
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  • Profile picture of the author divinegrace
    Happened to one of my site recently too. I logged inside Google webmaster tools and it says "No links to the site". However, it was showing hundreds of links before. Is your webmaster tools saying the same in "links to your site"?
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  • Profile picture of the author uoftenwinny
    Google usually like this.
    First, your website is on NO1 page 1, later, when it discover something new and unique, your website is fall away from page 1.
    it's quite hard to get it back on page 1 and No.1.
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