$50 a month super reasonable goal?

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Hi everyone,
I am trying my hand at making a google adsense focused marketing site. I make a little spending money through dropshipping and want to turn it into more. I have tried click bank, amazon associates and commission junction on some of my personal websites. I didn't really have a focus, defiantly didn't know enough to even begin, and worse picked very broad niches. anyway, I found what I think is a decent niche and want to make sure I am on the right track.

My goal, in 3 months make $50 of profit a month from adsense alone, I want to start small and then ill work on a higher goal.

Here is what I am doing:
I found a long keyword that gets 8800 local searches per month and has a CPC over 2$. By looking at the results for the keyword on google the first page is mainly about.com, even a 1 response yahoo answers page.

I made a website with 10 articles from iwriter, all on the main keyword or related keywords. Each article has a link to another one of the articles. Each article was submitted to ezinearticles after posting on my site. Each article was stumbled, saved on reddit, delicious, posted to facebook, twitter and myspace. (do I need to do all that?)

I have a Squidoo page related to the main keyword with relevant information and a link to my site.

I have paid for 100 directory submissions from directorycritic.com, spread out over the next month.

I plan on adding 2 articles to my website each week. I will then submit ezinearticles after posting on my site. stumble, save on reddit, delicious, post to facebook, twitter and myspace.

I will work on posting relevant comments on a few forums and and related blogs.I am working on learning the massive amount of information on this forum.

Am I on the right track?
#$50 #goal #month #reasonable #super
  • Profile picture of the author cardine
    Just so you know Squidoo is noindexing a lot of their pages that they think are low quality. So I'd be careful before using a Squidoo page as now most of them won't even be viewable to Google.

    Otherwise it seems like you are on the right track, but it is almost impossible to judge how difficult a keyword is to rank just by whether it has a yahoo answers listing and an about page. Both of those sites very often appear on high competition search terms.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Thanks for the info on squidoo, for future articles should I post them to squidoo/ work on building up my squidoo page, or is that a waste of time?

      Would posting my keyword / website for review on this thread be a bad idea? It seems most people on this forum keep their exact keyword secret.
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      • Profile picture of the author cardine
        Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

        Thanks for the info on squidoo, for future articles should I post them to squidoo/ work on building up my squidoo page, or is that a waste of time?

        Would posting my keyword / website for review on this thread be a bad idea? It seems most people on this forum keep their exact keyword secret.
        I would say that the time investment required to get a good Squidoo page is not worth it (considering there is still the risk that even if you spend a lot of time on the page they will noindex it anyways).

        Since you are just starting out there probably isn't too much harm in posting your site/keyword. If you were already making $2000/mo or something like that I would definitely keep quiet to prevent people from knowing what works (copycats are everywhere), but I think you're safe since most people only copy from people who are already making money. But I'm sure other people will have their own thoughts on when you are safe to out what you are doing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Tork
    Your on the right track for sure. I would also try to get some relevant in content backlinks from sites in your niche.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by Benjamin Tork View Post

      Your on the right track for sure. I would also try to get some relevant in content backlinks from sites in your niche.
      Thanks for the tip, should I focus on getting the backlinks upfront, or overtime? Obviously more is better, would 1-2 a week be a reasonable start?
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  • Profile picture of the author auditt05
    I would say try some forum commenting in a relevant niche. That would be a daily addition to your site. Just put the link in the signature. Thats 60 links a month!

    After sometime passes, try further article spinning and submission.

    Social Marketing will get you traffic, not SEO
    All the rest is SEO mainly.

    Just my 2 cents
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    Any other suggestions?
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    You're on the right track no doubt and $50 a month is definitely an easy goal.

    I'm curious though that's a lot of content for only 1 keyword I really hope you're targeting more than just that with all of that content
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

      You're on the right track no doubt and $50 a month is definitely an easy goal.

      I'm curious though that's a lot of content for only 1 keyword I really hope you're targeting more than just that with all of that content
      I have a handful of keywords to use
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  • Profile picture of the author slomo
    your home button is broken
    and i wouldnt post your website here

    edit:

    you should read this thread about linkin the pages (silo)
    there is another thrad from yukon where he explains it better but cant find it right now

    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post4791871
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  • Profile picture of the author Bond Girl
    I woudn't post your website, remove it if you can, other people can and will use it to go after your niche and then you will have even more competition. Link velocity is also an important component to consider, IMHO.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Took it down, thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Honestly, I'd say that goal is too low.

    Some guys on here have put up exact methods as to how they went from $0 to $2000/mo within 3 months.

    But as far as being on the right track- have long articles and diversify your backlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by Justin Stowe View Post

      Honestly, I'd say that goal is too low.

      Some guys on here have put up exact methods as to how they went from $0 to $2000/mo within 3 months.

      But as far as being on the right track- have long articles and diversify your backlinks.
      Ill have to keep reading the forum for those threads, 2000 just seems like a pipe dream to me, hopefully less so in the future. What exactly do you mean by diversify backlinks? And for the long articles, all of mine so far are 500 words, should I put up 1000 word articles twice a week, or just every so often. I found a few good writers so the quality is actually quite good either way.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Hey bro...

    You should have NO PROBLEM hitting your $50 a month profit via adsense. You're def on the right track.

    But first I would always say diversify as well. When adsense money starts coming in...look for other ways to get income from various places my friend.

    -Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    Taking advice from the above suggestions I am planning on making 2-3 posts a day online to build back links. Would 1 post at each of the following sites be a good place to start: yahoo answers (Im high enough that I can post a link in my signature), wiki answers and a PR2 or higher forum with do follow links (still searching for this)?
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  • Profile picture of the author chadseo
    Hi, how are you going with your site. Just wanted to know as this seems to be interesting. Taking advice and telling about your testing is good way of learning. Please share with other warriors !!!
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    50 bucks a month? you must live on a very tight budget. Why even bother having that as a "goal"?
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    • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      50 bucks a month? you must live on a very tight budget. Why even bother having that as a "goal"?
      For someone starting from scratch (or close to it) I think it's a very reasonable goal. It's very achievable, and a very important step.

      In 3 months, or maybe sooner, he can have a blueprint for how to add $50/mo to his income. He can also feel he achieved something and be looking to set his sights on the next goal. Otherwise he might be worrying about how it's only $50/mo and be likely to give up before he ever really gets started.

      Then once he knows how to do it, of course it's time to scale it up. If he can scale his method 10x, he's adding $500/mo to his income every 3 months. That's pretty decent and will grow into a full time income over a year or two.

      Every journey starts with the first step.
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      • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
        Originally Posted by josephseeley View Post

        For someone starting from scratch (or close to it) I think it's a very reasonable goal. It's very achievable, and a very important step.

        In 3 months, or maybe sooner, he can have a blueprint for how to add $50/mo to his income. He can also feel he achieved something and be looking to set his sights on the next goal. Otherwise he might be worrying about how it's only $50/mo and be likely to give up before he ever really gets started.

        Then once he knows how to do it, of course it's time to scale it up. If he can scale his method 10x, he's adding $500/mo to his income every 3 months. That's pretty decent and will grow into a full time income over a year or two.

        Every journey starts with the first step.

        That is my exact reasoning.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      50 bucks a month? you must live on a very tight budget. Why even bother having that as a "goal"?
      No not on a tight budget, I just don't want to get discouraged by going for $1000 a month and ending up with $100, once I hit $50 ill work on increasing the income. I have seen so many promises of "1000 in 4 days, make $80000 a yr etc etc", that I just want to set a goal that I, and anyone can accomplish even with out much experiance.

      Also I work full time + going to gradschool fulltime, so I want to start off slow.
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    • Profile picture of the author jimbo63
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      50 bucks a month? you must live on a very tight budget. Why even bother having that as a "goal"?
      Seriously, was that comment even worth the time to type? Not every one is a legend in their own mind.

      Fifty dollars a month is perfect. Set a goal that is achievable, never set yourself up for failure.

      Best of luck to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author glock67
    i would advise you not to use squidoo maybe use blogger instead
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by glock67 View Post

      i would advise you not to use squidoo maybe use blogger instead
      Yeh, I have given up on using squidoo, I have one page with a backlink that I might as well leave, but I don't plan on investing in it. What is the best way to use blogger to my advantage? Should I post unique articles in a blogger blog with links to my page, or use a wordpress plugin to post excerpts and links on a blogger page, maybe throw in a few unique articles to make it look less "spammy"?
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  • Profile picture of the author gtk29
    That is a very nice approach - taking small steps. I know most people set a big goal like $5000 a month and soon they get frustrated because they come nowhere near it.

    If you are hiring others to write for you, then you have to be extra careful because you might end up getting duplicate content. I suggest that you write yourself.

    I wish you good luck
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by gtk29 View Post

      That is a very nice approach - taking small steps. I know most people set a big goal like $5000 a month and soon they get frustrated because they come nowhere near it.

      If you are hiring others to write for you, then you have to be extra careful because you might end up getting duplicate content. I suggest that you write yourself.

      I wish you good luck
      I am hiring 2 writers from iwriter, is there any site I can use to check if their content is duplicate? I just don't have the time to write the amount of content I need.
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

        I am hiring 2 writers from iwriter, is there any site I can use to check if their content is duplicate? I just don't have the time to write the amount of content I need.
        Use CopyScape for that.
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        • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
          Thanks for the help so far everyone, I am going to try and document even the smallest changes / steps I take for future reference. Today I left 3 posts, one on a major general blog, one on yahoo answers and one on a related forum.

          I am currently making sure my keyword is in the first and last paragraph of my firt 10 articles, as well as in the title and permalink. I am putting a link on each article to my main page, linking the keyword in the last paragraph of the articles.

          I also have used the following plugins with wordpress:
          Advanced Recent Posts Widget, Akismet, All in One SEO Pack, Awesome Google Adsense, Captcha, Google XML Sitemap,Network Publisher, Pages Posts, Per Page Sidebars, Post-to-Facebook, Post Author, Publish 2 Ping.fm, SEO SearchTerms Tagging 2, Simple Google Analytics, WP Social Bookmarking Light, Yoast Breadcrumbs

          I have not configured all of them, but I am working on it. Many of the above plugins are only for the look if my site and probably have no affect on SEO/ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author PriceMaster
    In my opinion, it shouldn't take too long to get your website up, running and earning.

    Also I think you can do A LOT more than $50 starting from your first month

    Just join a few good Forums related to SEO and Marketing (one in my signature too), start taking in information and don't be shy to take advice from the experts.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bond Girl
    Hey Scoyne2, Your goals are yours and you are wise to set it at the level you are comfortable with, once you reach those goals (AND YOU WILL) then you can raise them again, and when you meet those goals raise them again. You are awesome to be working full time, going to grad school AND taking on IM. Dude you rock! and You can do this.

    P.S. I'm glad you took your keyword/site reference down buddy.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by Bond Girl View Post

      Hey Scoyne2, Your goals are yours and you are wise to set it at the level you are comfortable with, once you reach those goals (AND YOU WILL) then you can raise them again, and when you meet those goals raise them again. You are awesome to be working full time, going to grad school AND taking on IM. Dude you rock! and You can do this.

      P.S. I'm glad you took your keyword/site reference down buddy.
      Thanks again for the advice and encouragement!
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    A question about backlinks for formws: Once I have 10 posts on a forum I can then post my signiture, thus giving my 10 backlinks from the forum, should I then continue to post on the same forum, or move on to another?
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  • Profile picture of the author IMSince2003
    OK, a couple of notes as I've been where you are now (although it was a long time ago).

    Tip #1: Test your niche for viability BEFORE you build a site and kill yourself for no return. How to do this? Create hubs for all the keywords you want to test out. Throw some links at your hubs and watch their progress. You can also make money while doing this. Using their statistics, you'll soon see which ones are winners.

    Tip #2: Take the winners and build a few sites. Test the waters by creating at least one 1,000 word post and ten small (100 words or so) related keyword posts. Make the large post sticky. Get a few links and let the sites age.

    Tip #3: Over the space of a few months, you will see which sites Google likes a lot and which ones are just nowhere. Take the winners and implement your plan above.

    Using my pre-filtering approach, you will save months or years of niche hunting frustration. I hope this helps you get started. Best of luck. Oh, and never post your site anywhere for a review and NEVER put your main money sites in IM forum signatures!
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    Just updating for the sake of future reference:
    I have installed SEO Quake for firefox (free) and am using it to find blogs to comment on.
    You can sort search results by google page rank which works great when you pair it with google advanced search. That way if you find a do-follow blog or forum that is relevant, you can find the highest ranking page on the site and comment there.

    I am also making a list of every backlink I make for my own records as to not duplicate.

    One question? would it be worth it to stumble/digg/delicious etc etc the pages where I post a comment. All of my posts are relevant and not spammy if it makes a difference. Having read it many times here I am going for quality over quantity. I am also planning on making a youtube video with my keyword as the title.
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  • Profile picture of the author ishuvonet
    Target some keywords that best suit your business or website and build anchor text backlinks by using blog comments,article marketing and other forms of offsite SEO techniques and get the top positions of Google and see the flood of organic traffic then and see a better income in adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    How about submitting to blog directories? I found a good list: Top 50 Free Blog Directories

    Would submitting to 2-3 a day be a good use of time?
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  • Profile picture of the author tomstark
    $50 is more than reasonable. I made a couple more niche sites back in January and was hoping to be at that point by now, but getting them to rank well has taken longer than expected. I realize everything takes time, but I just don't know how people rank top 10 within a month on a new domain. I just made my first couple bucks on one of them, and it was from amazon surprisingly, and not adsense... Keep us updated on your progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author savedbyhim01
    $50 a month doesn't seem too difficult. If you have good content and low competition for key words it is well within reason. Once you start getting clicks it is merely a matter of math. Increase your visitors and you will make more money.
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  • Profile picture of the author sandra98
    @Scoyne - sounds like you are on track to $50/month. It's a great goal to have, and looks like you are taking steps everyday towards it. I see you are building a diversified backlink profile which is good.

    One thing that I would recommend is to rewrite your articles (the same ones you have on your website) before you distribute them to the article directories. Republishing a small fraction of articles from your site verbatim on ezinearticles or other directories should be fine. But try not to do it 100%. This is something I would personally not do myself for my own sites. There's a theory that Google's perspective, if they see that all of your site's content is also available elsewhere, they might not value your site as much.

    It's my suggestion, and you can take it as you deem fit. There's a whole debate about duplicate content and article syndication, which you can research on. I bring this up as it seems no one else has pointed it out, and I think you should know about it. Best to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoeUK
    I'd say that's a more than reasonable goal considering what you say you have done yes...
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    It's ok to have a modest goal, but you have to know exactly Howe you are going to achieve it. That's basically 2 clicks a day on Adsense. So that's maybe 40 visitors a day at a modest CTR of 5%. That probably means getting top five for your main keyword. Or do you plan to try to rank lots of long-tail keywords and not worry about the main keyword. Just saying, your earnings goal needs to be reflected in a very specific strategy. You want consistency too, what if you get 2 $25 clicks by pure luck (not likely :-D ) and nothing ever again - did you make your goal? All I am saying is, online earning is too variable to allow such firm goals. Aim for 50, but know how you will get there and what you will do when you do because I guarantee you will want more very quickly :-D
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Thanks for the continual encouragement and advice. @sandra98 that wa my next step, deciding if I should submit the exact articles or spun articles, there sure is alot of disagreement on the topic.

      @markowe, my $50 a month goal was based on lower traffic, and not being able to get the #1 spot, so Im looking more towards getting 2 clicks a day and working to get the visitors and CTR to get those clicks. Once I hit my $50 a month goal ill set a higher goal.
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    Had 20 visits yesterday! Still no adsense $$, but Im just glad to see some visits. Ezine articles denied my submissions saying "Your article links to a page that does not contain enough relevant informative content." I had them linked to the homepage, so I resubmitted two, one linked to the page with excerpts of each articles and a link to them, and one linked to another related article, hopefully they accept one or both.
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

      Had 20 visits yesterday! Still no adsense $$, but Im just glad to see some visits. Ezine articles denied my submissions saying "Your article links to a page that does not contain enough relevant informative content." I had them linked to the homepage, so I resubmitted two, one linked to the page with excerpts of each articles and a link to them, and one linked to another related article, hopefully they accept one or both.
      Yay, getting somewhere!

      Do you know where your visits came from?

      I tend to really only count "visits" as those that came from Google or another search engine, via a specific search. Otherwise they could be bots, or any number of sources of junk traffic, it's really hard to tell sometimes.

      If they are REAL visitors then you can definitely start seeing Adsense clicks. In fact I would definitely expect at least one off 20 "real" visitors! So you could start looking at your ad placement and whatnot if you get a few days like that without any clicks.
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  • Profile picture of the author socomplete
    Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

    Hi everyone,
    I am trying my hand at making a google adsense focused marketing site. I make a little spending money through dropshipping and want to turn it into more. I have tried click bank, amazon associates and commission junction on some of my personal websites. I didn't really have a focus, defiantly didn't know enough to even begin, and worse picked very broad niches. anyway, I found what I think is a decent niche and want to make sure I am on the right track.

    My goal, in 3 months make $50 of profit a month from adsense alone, I want to start small and then ill work on a higher goal.

    Here is what I am doing:
    I found a long keyword that gets 8800 local searches per month and has a CPC over 2$. By looking at the results for the keyword on google the first page is mainly about.com, even a 1 response yahoo answers page.

    I made a website with 10 articles from iwriter, all on the main keyword or related keywords. Each article has a link to another one of the articles. Each article was submitted to ezinearticles after posting on my site. Each article was stumbled, saved on reddit, delicious, posted to facebook, twitter and myspace. (do I need to do all that?)

    I have a Squidoo page related to the main keyword with relevant information and a link to my site.

    I have paid for 100 directory submissions from directorycritic.com, spread out over the next month.

    I plan on adding 2 articles to my website each week. I will then submit ezinearticles after posting on my site. stumble, save on reddit, delicious, post to facebook, twitter and myspace.

    I will work on posting relevant comments on a few forums and and related blogs.I am working on learning the massive amount of information on this forum.

    Am I on the right track?
    Your on the right track, I'm personally at about $48/mo. I recommend looking for aged domains, and have network of new domains that age over time. My older sites 8 months or older have picked up.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      8 were direct, 8 were referrals, 4 were organic. Looked closer at my adsence with a CPC of $.02
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      • Profile picture of the author markowe
        Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

        8 were direct, 8 were referrals, 4 were organic. Looked closer at my adsence and I had the following:

        CPC $.02
        I would delete what you posted there and just leave CPC as I have done. It's against Adsense TOS to discuss CTR in forums etc. Goodness knows why, I have never really figured that out, but best not to risk ANY trouble.

        So you did get one click, $0.02? Ouch, hope that was just a random one...
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        • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
          Originally Posted by markowe View Post

          I would delete what you posted there and just leave CPC as I have done. It's against Adsense TOS to discuss CTR in forums etc. Goodness knows why, I have never really figured that out, but best not to risk ANY trouble.

          So you did get one click, $0.02? Ouch, hope that was just a random one...
          Has been edited now thanks for the tip!

          And yeh, I really hope the click was random.
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          • Profile picture of the author markowe
            Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

            Has been edited now thanks for the tip!

            And yeh, I really hope the click was random.
            Hm, early days, don't want to unduly worry you but I very rarely get these junk clicks. It's usually a consistent CPC from the get-go if I have done my keyword research right. Have you put your keywords into Spyfu to get another take on the CPC and to see how many advertisers are bidding in that keyword on the search network? If it's a fairly low number, like say less than 8, that could indicate there is a lack of ads to display on your site and then you can end up with cheap ads.

            Then again it might be nothing to worry about.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    I would aim higher. $500 a month adsense site could take you 2/3 months with the right attitude and plan even as a newbie, but $50 a month for the niche is about right providing it's got a good cpc around $0.40 for 8000 exact searches would bring you approx $50., but don't expect Google to give you all that $2, they won't.. They'll line their cut pockets first LOL

    I don't go for anything that I can't get 1000 pageviews per day out of, I feel it's pointless otherwise as it takes just as much effort building the site and content so you may as well aim higher then there is less disapointment when things don't go right. If your plans don't go right, don't give up, just learn some more and have another go with a keyword with a lot more traffic, you'll get there in the end.

    Just to note your cpc and click through, your site is new, Google will pay more for well estabilished and aged sites, plus they will be alot more optimised for the right advertisers. Some of my sites are high traffic, high pagerank, low cpc (through adwords tool) but have a RPM of $10.00+ so work that one out!
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

      I would aim higher. $500 a month adsense site could take you 2/3 months with the right attitude and plan even as a newbie
      For now I just want to see that it is possible, it is alot more work then most people make it seem, even with outsourcing articles and directory submissions, when I do get $50 I will take a look at what I am doing wrong and make it better, in the long run $500 a month for one site would be great, I just figure making $50 a month to learn something is a pretty good deal.
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  • Profile picture of the author JasonGiorgini
    $50 is more than achievable as long as you stay dedicated to your posting regime.
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    Just a little update, I have signed on to myblogguest.com and am going to try and submit one unique article to a blog each week.

    Also I am learning about the tiered structure: I have a squidoo, free wordpress, blogger, weebley and hubpage with spun articles and links back to my money site. I also have these sites linking to each other, but in a non circular structure.

    I have saves the address of each site I commented on with links back to my money page, I will go back and leave separate comments on each site back to my secondary pages. One way I have been finding places to get backlinks is by finding my competitors websites(or even sites in similar niche but not direct competitors), punching their url into a backlink checker online, and then checking each site and adding my own comment if possible.

    I bought a fiverr gig for some backlinks to my squidoo page, more as an experiment than anything.

    I spend about an hr a day working on posting comments, bookmarking articles etc, which at my $50 a month goal ends up being $1.67 dollars an hr good thing I enjoy this or it would be silly. I know understand why so many people said $50 was to low of a goal... but this is more of my pilot project so im sticking to it.


    A few questions for the masses: I have the funds to do a dripfeedlink project split between my secondary sites, should I give it a try?
    Are there any good social bookmarking paid services out there that I can direct to my secondary sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
      Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

      I spend about an hr a day working on posting comments, bookmarking articles etc, which at my $50 a month goal ends up being $1.67 dollars an hr good thing I enjoy this or it would be silly. I know understand why so many people said $50 was to low of a goal... but this is more of my pilot project so im sticking to it.
      Remember the work you do now will pay off over time. Not just this month, but for several months, even years you will be seeing the income from that work. If you get your site to $50/mo and just let it sit you'd probably get several hundred out of it over time.

      Of course you can continue building it on top of that. Once your domain starts to get some authority that's when you can start really ramping things up. Tackling closely related keywords that you can rank for right off the bat.
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      • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
        Checked my SERPS rankings for my keyword:

        Google - nowhere to be found... yet

        Bing - SERPS checker sites say page 1... but I cant find it

        Yahoo - First page, 5th result its a start!

        Im pretty excited to see some progress, even if it is only on yahoo.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeeWhiz1
    Tip in regards to researching keywords: Go after High CPC low volume or Low CPC High volume. This is what I think works best.
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    Good and bad news, hubpages blocked my outbound link to my website saying it violated their TOS, on a good note I made $.75 on adsense yesterday, its a start!
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    A little update: My page is up to PR2! Im making about $1 a day in adsense which is fine for now, one day I had $5, but it didnt last. Im still not on page 1 of google/yahoo/bing, but every so often I will show up at the bottom of yahoo page 1. I have added some amazon and clickbank advertisments sparsly throughout my site, and a mailing list sign up on the sidebar of every post. I am very happy with my progress, and glad to see some small results. I have about 80-100 backlinks depending on the checker used, and am adding more every day.
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    • Profile picture of the author stevo235
      Somebody in earlier in the thread suggest more article spinning for backlinks, with the no update I would heavily advise against this, and congrads on the $1 a day!
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      • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
        I have decided to do no spinning at all and focus on backlinks. I have found that wiki.answers, and by using backlink watch on competitors/similar sites I can easily get a handful of backlinks everyday. I submit every article I write to ezine articles and article base, but have yet to see significant results.
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  • Profile picture of the author fresh68
    who is the hot chick in your picture?
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    $50 in a MONTH? IT CANNOT BE DONE
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  • Profile picture of the author dbwebdesignz
    Backlinks over time is proven to be the best method. It is not just about making the backlinks it is being able to maintain them or increase and never decrease. If you start to decrease the amount of links you are putting on it shows to Google then your site is becoming less popular
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  • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
    You are definitely on the right track, and don't forget to check your PM.
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  • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
    Things are not moving as fast as I would like, I have been posting 2 articles a week, and getting 3-4 backlinks via comments per day, and using a few fiverr gigs, which had some short term results. My site does have a good bounce rate, and pretty good interaction, but Im still nok making much on adsense, no more then $.25 a day now that my adwords campaign ended. Im not giving up, just working to learn what Im doing wrong. Here is a screen shot from the last two months.

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    • Profile picture of the author krenisis
      Ok here's what I will do for you. I use social media techique's to increase webviews and adsense revenue. Send me the link to to your blog, not the squidoo blog but if you have a wordpress or blogspot or anything else besides squidoo. I will do my best to boost your site, the results will be immediate and over next 2 days tell me your progress.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    I'm a little concerned about your low CPC - that's looking like a trend right now, and to be honest CPCs usually don't vary that much. Have you tried some of your keywords in SpyFu to see if there are a lot of advertisers and what CPC they are paying?

    I mean, low CPC doesn't have to be bad if you are going to get thousands of visitors, but if you were banking on making a couple of bucks a day off a couple of dozen visitors (perfectly doable with a decent CPC, I have sites like that) then you could have problems with your choice of niche/keyword...

    If you have yet to rank high on page one for a high-volume keyword then OK, sit tight and see what happens when some major traffic starts coming in.
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    • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
      Thanks for the help, google keyword tool said my keyword gets about 8,000 local exact searches a month, and the CPC was over $2. SpyFu (which prior to today I thout was a paid program and had never used) says the CPC is N/A with 903 searches per day. So this may be my problem. Is spyfu pulling different stats then google keyword tool? I guess my whole plan is a little off track. Also, if this is the case should I shift the focus of my site to something like clickbank or building a list?
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      • Profile picture of the author krenisis
        Ok look PM me your email or twitter ID and lets talk 1 on 1. Iam offering to help you for free for 2-3 days. Honestly on this and many forums people will hit you with so many ideas and suggestions you will be doing alot of work and not getting results. On top of that people will change thier advice and you will be confused. My methods are clear and it uses social media twitter and facebook to get results. Also I have an ultimate guide right on this very site here

        http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...t-traffic.html

        Lets talk and I can point you in the right direction.
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      • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
        Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

        Thanks for the help, google keyword tool said my keyword gets about 8,000 local exact searches a month, and the CPC was over $2. SpyFu (which prior to today I thout was a paid program and had never used) says the CPC is N/A with 903 searches per day. So this may be my problem. Is spyfu pulling different stats then google keyword tool? I guess my whole plan is a little off track. Also, if this is the case should I shift the focus of my site to something like clickbank or building a list?
        As I mentioned before it's always good setting your sights big with Adsense as a long term goal, if you enjoy building the site then eventually you will succeed. You are probably setting yourself up for failure unless you think of it like this.

        Niche sites are OK, but the ones who build them know what they're doing with the keyword research. Google tools aren't accurate, it can have combined data across many platforms. It's best to take a large niche with a good keyword [100,000], take all the sub-niches and add them as categories on your website then just focus one small section at a time.
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      • Profile picture of the author markowe
        Originally Posted by scoyne2 View Post

        Thanks for the help, google keyword tool said my keyword gets about 8,000 local exact searches a month, and the CPC was over $2. SpyFu (which prior to today I thout was a paid program and had never used) says the CPC is N/A with 903 searches per day. So this may be my problem. Is spyfu pulling different stats then google keyword tool? I guess my whole plan is a little off track. Also, if this is the case should I shift the focus of my site to something like clickbank or building a list?
        Hmm, don't take my word as gospel, hopefully someone else can weigh in here, and maybe it's not all so grim.

        I am not sure what n/a means in SpyFu, it could just mean they have never collected data on Adwords advertising for that keyword. Maybe someone else knows. Also, I really don't know where they get their data from - they can't really have any data other than what Google provides, probably from the KWT and the other tools in Adwords, and maybe they scrape the SERPS in some way...

        How many advertisers does it show? The bad news about Adwords Content network is that you cannot be sure that the same volume of advertisers, and the same CPC are available as for the Search network, which is where we get our data from in the KWT tool etc. However, the good news is even if your site is about a specific subniche, you will still get ads on your site for the more general niche. So if your site was about blue widgets, you would get ads for "widgets" too. So look into some of those related keywords, maybe a more "general" keyword for that niche that you can research on.

        Yeah, at the end of the day you could have picked a duff niche - it happens to us all, don't sweat it too much if you have...
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        • Profile picture of the author scoyne2
          Originally Posted by markowe View Post

          How many advertisers does it show? .....

          So look into some of those related keywords, maybe a more "general" keyword for that niche that you can research on.

          Yeah, at the end of the day you could have picked a duff niche - it happens to us all, don't sweat it too much if you have...
          It says N/A, but when I click on the graph icon it shows 1. As far as the related keywords, thats what I was thinking too, Ill try and look at the keywords I get organic visits for, and then see what those keywords are paying, it might be possible to change the focus of my site slightly, as many of my articles actually talk about extremely closely related keywords, but use my main keyword in the title, h2 etc, in a way that still makes sence.

          and yeh, if it ends up being a flop ill consider it a learning experiance and do more research for my next site.
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  • Profile picture of the author fresh68
    i would buy targeted traffic, and write articles it works like a charm
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