What to check for when buying an aged domain?

by nik0 Banned
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I saw an aged domain that I want to buy and only some long innerpage url was indexed, and with the info: command nothing shows up. Scrapebox also indicated that there was no cache.

Would this domain still be worth it to buy for the age?
#aged #buying #check #domain
  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    There are many issues with purchasing an aged domain. Some of the biggest are:

    Loss of PR (I find 1 in 3 purchases drops in PR)
    Getting Indexed – If you choose the wrong domain, often it will not get reindexed with your new content.

    Fake PR – Lots of sites are sold with fake PR

    When purchasing an aged domain, the following checks are essential:

    1. On Google run the command info:examplesite.com. This will tell you if the site being sold is in fact a redirect or not (ensuring you don’t purchase a site with fake PR).

    2. On Google run the command site:examplesite.com. The more pages indexed in Google the better. Make note of any inner pages that carry PR. Two effective ways of determining the PR of inner pages are:

    Install the Mozilla plugins “SEO for Firefox” or “SEOQuake Toolbar”, turn on and run the site command above.
    Install the “PaRaMeter” desktop application. It will extract all indexed pages of a website and return their PR.

    3. Check backlinks in Yahoo Site Explorer and I also recommend AllTheWeb.com. As with the point above, you can turn on those firefox plugins to check what links have existing PR. You want to ensure the site has a lot of market relevant backlinks.

    4. Make sure you check archives.org to establish a sites history.

    5. Search for the domain name. This is something I always do. It often throws up interesting forum posts, profile links, all sorts of data to look over and ensure you make an informed choice before purchasing.

    6. Check the age of the site using Domain Age - SEO Tools - Search Engine Optimization, Google Optimization

    Good places to get aged domain

    Godaddy Tdnam – https://auctions.godaddy.com/
    FreshDrop
    Domain Samurai (Integrated with Market Samurai)

    Here is a thread on WF to help you as well > http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...d-domains.html
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Thanks for your great advice when purchasing domains with PR

      Only my concern at this moment is the age of the domain. Do you think that would still get transferred despite that only 1 innerpage shows up with the site:domain.com command?

      The site doesn't have any links or anything, at this point I'm for this specific one (because of the name that I like) only interested in the age so I can build links more aggresively.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Of course the age still remain, that is why people love and buy age domain.
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    • The expired domain should have a niche-relevant exact match keyword in its domain name with low competition, good local monthly search volume, good global monthly search volume and mid-range CPC rates...

      Then, use Majestic SEO's Site Explorer to get the expired domain's backlink profile details. You should go with the expired domain with active backlinks in diverse, contextually relevant, high authority sites heavily trafficked by your target viewers. Go with an expired domain that has active backlinks in high PR pages. Take note of the URLs of these backlinks...

      Go to Archive.Org. Take note of the content of the cached pages. the more relevant it is to the onsite content you're planning to develop for your site, the better. Take note of the content of the cached pages with active backlinks in contextually relevant, high authority sites heavily trafficked by your target viewers, so you can develop relevant content pages and assign URLs to these pages that are the URLs of the cached pages with active backlinks...

      To check if the homepage Google PR of the expired domain is valid, go to RankChecker.Com...
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      Of course the age still remain, that is why people love and buy age domain.
      Old thread got bumped, yeah now that I read back it's a pretty stupid question indeed lol.

      Nowadays when I look for domains my first steps are to check the stats:

      - Domain Authority
      - Page Authority
      - Mozrank

      In SEOMoz and afterwards I check

      - Citation Flow
      - Trust Flow

      In Majestic SEO, and then after I check Alexa.com, somehow this site shows the best back links that still exist so that you don't have to go through the messy amount of links that SEOmoz shows, then obvious check if the links are still there and make sure they are dofollow but mostly the other seomoz/majestic stats already show what I can expect.

      With Majestic you sometimes have to be a bit careful though, they show real old stats so you can easily have 25-30 Trust Flow while the strong links are gone a long time.

      With SEOmoz you also have to be a bit careful cause it seems that nofollow links pass on just as much authority (authority according to seomoz sometimes I really wonder if a site really has authority and those stats "can" be as flawed as it can be) and mozrank, as dofollow links, so never rely just on 1 of those sites but always check it in relation to each other and obvious make sure you check the links itself.
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    If the homepage is not indexed then that means Google finds it pretty useless. Once a homepage is out of the index you're playing with fire. Out of the index = No PR which to me = No trust, hence no age bonuses. I would wait to find a domain that is still indexed.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

      If the homepage is not indexed then that means Google finds it pretty useless. Once a homepage is out of the index you're playing with fire. Out of the index = No PR which to me = No trust, hence no age bonuses. I would wait to find a domain that is still indexed.
      Thanks DP, that's what I was afraid of indeed. Lately I've been doubting a lot about purchasing domains with PR but they've seem to become a lot more expensive and with all the deindexing that took place recently and new ways to fake PR that don't show up with the info: command I'm not so sure about it anymore.

      I'd rather look at aged domains, check the domain authority (which plays a mayor role in ranking strength imo), and build up the PR myself so that I'm absolutely sure it will stick and I'm also in the process of buying complete websites under $100,- that have some PR. I just feel it's a safer route to go for long term succes.
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      • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Thanks DP, that's what I was afraid of indeed. Lately I've been doubting a lot about purchasing domains with PR but they've seem to become a lot more expensive and with all the deindexing that took place recently and new ways to fake PR that don't show up with the info: command I'm not so sure about it anymore.

        I'd rather look at aged domains, check the domain authority (which plays a mayor role in ranking strength imo), and build up the PR myself so that I'm absolutely sure it will stick and I'm also in the process of buying complete websites under $100,- that have some PR. I just feel it's a safer route to go for long term succes.
        Thats a good plan. Domain authority has been getting a lot of attention lately but once again I believe that number is all backlink dependent also, just a different way of judging it.

        Its all about the backlinks for a domain. PR is just a roundabout way of giving us an idea of what those backlinks might be but the actual PR number is so easily manipulated. The thing is once you start diving into a domains backlink profile you can usually tell in about 2 minutes whether its real solid PR and link juice or just garbage.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sharewise
      Originally Posted by dp40oz View Post

      If the homepage is not indexed then that means Google finds it pretty useless. Once a homepage is out of the index you're playing with fire. Out of the index = No PR which to me = No trust, hence no age bonuses. I would wait to find a domain that is still indexed.
      I totally agree with you on this one - and the trouble is that so many domains up for sale at the moment are not indexed. They must have all been struck off when Google began it's rampage.

      Does anyone know a short cut to find aged domains for sale that ARE still indexed. Doing Google searches "site: xyz.com" is so tedious!

      Ann
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Sharewise View Post

        I totally agree with you on this one - and the trouble is that so many domains up for sale at the moment are not indexed. They must have all been struck off when Google began it's rampage.

        Does anyone know a short cut to find aged domains for sale that ARE still indexed. Doing Google searches "site: xyz.com" is so tedious!

        Ann
        Tools for the job my man. You always have to check for yourself if you are going to to buy but like with Godaddy look for some tools that will display some info. Plus if you are buying expiring domains they are more likely to still be indexed.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fixers
    It is all based on what you feel is a fair price. If you like the name and want to pay then go for it.

    Based on age, G class this from the first time they index the domain so yes the age will carry so you should be able to hit it harder with links. This being said I would make sure you start similar to a new domain, start slow and build, although you can build quicker with it being aged.

    Again the way you treat it would also depend how much you value it. If you want it a long time then you need to take your time with it and then it will last and will not be hit with a penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author hbnmrinfo
    My preference for checking backlinks is ahrefs. Their monthly plan like majestic and openseo is expensive, but their api is actually reasonably priced if you are checking backlinks on an adhoc basis.

    What I do is use their api to get all backlinks for the site in question. Then I check pr of all backlinks to get a feel for the quality of the backlink profile.
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    • Profile picture of the author palms
      Dupe post. Deleted
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  • Profile picture of the author palms
    I've noticed that expiring domains that were being 302'd to another domain for years by the previous owner often have only the home page showing in Google's site: command, even though the domain has thousands of inbound links pointing to previously indexed pages, as shown by Majestic and aHrefs.

    Would/should the fact that the expiring domain only has the Home page listed in the site: command deter you from buying the domain?
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