Creating a Silo Structure using WordPress

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Here's my quick guide for putting together silo structured website using WordPress. If you don't know what a silo structured website is or why it's used then you have some researching to do outside the scope of this post.

1) Get Your Keywords.

Before I build any pages I do my keyword research. If I found a keyword to rank for, lets say ACNE, I put it into Google's keyword tool, set the Match type to Exact, and make sure I check "Only show ideas closely related to my search terms." I want to make sure I get relevant keyword ideas.

2) Organize and Group Your Keywords.

I sort the results by Local Monthly Searches. I select all of the keywords and export them to a CSV file. I open my CSV file and organize the keywords that are closely related. Using [acne] as my keyword, I would take the results and organize them like so:

[acne treatment]
[best acne treatment]
[acne scar treatment]
[acne treatments]
[natural acne treatment]

[acne rosacea]
[acne vulgaris]
[adult acne]
[baby acne]

[what causes acne]

[acne scar cream]
[jojoba oil acne]
[aloe vera acne]

3) Keyword your Keywords.

What I do next after I grouped my keywords, I give them their own keyword that describes the group. A lot of the times the keyword you are grouping by will be in your list of grouped keywords. For example, in the first group of keywords one of them is [acne treatment]. Since my main site is about [acne] I would make this section about Acne Treatment. What you are doing is labeling these groups because they will become a category or section on your website.

Here's how I would label the above groups:

Acne Treatment (I would also use acne treatments as my keyword)
[best acne treatment]
[acne scar treatment]
[natural acne treatment]

Types of Acne
[acne rosacea]
[acne vulgaris]
[adult acne]
[baby acne]

Acne Products
[acne scar cream]
[jojoba oil acne]
[aloe vera acne]

About
[what causes acne]
This step takes the most time because it is the most crucial. This is setting up how we are going to structure our website by grouping our keywords. Don't be afraid to spend careful time planning before you move on to the next step, creating your pages, because it will make things easier for you down the road.

4) Build the Pages.

Once we are confident with are planned out silo structure, we need to take action and start building our pages. What I like to do is build one silo at a time because it allows me to focus on one group a related keywords.

These pages are the top tier of our silo structure. They are going to act as our mini authority on the topic/keyword. I use WordPress Pages and not Posts. Posts will support these Pages as I will discuss in the next step. For now, use WordPress Pages. These Pages are going to act in the same manner as a WordPress category page would act. You know those WP Category pages, the ones where all of your posts under the same category appear on the same page. We want to use a Page here because a Page gives us more flexibility. It allows us to add our keyword SEO content.

Back to our acne example, you would create a Page called Types of Acne. This page will serve as a gateway to different types of acne. Since we don't have any Types of Acne yet, what you will do next is take the different types of acne in our keyword group in step 3 and make subpages of them under Types of Acne. Now on your Types of Acne page you can create links to your subpages and provide a brief description of each.


This Pages URL: www.youracnedomain.com/Types-of-Acne/

<h1>Types of Acne</h1>

Acne sucks and it's no fun to have as a teenager. Not all acne is created equal and people suffer from different types of acne.
<h2>Rosacea</h2> <--- Links to www.youracnedomain.com/Types-of-Acne/rosacea
<p>Rosacea is a chronic condition characterized by facial erythema.</p>

<h2>Vulgaris</h2> <--- Links to www.youracnedomain.com/Types-of-Acne/vulgaris
<p>Acne vulgaris is a common human skin disease characterized by areas of skin with seborrhea.</p>

NOTE: Your WordPress theme may or may not support dynamically adding page listings on a page. There may be some plugins that will you do this.

This will also make for a nice menu because you would have on your home page, Types of Acne, with Rosacea, Vulgaris, Adult, Baby as child menus.

5) Power your Pages with Posts.

I like to use Posts to add authority to my Pages. What I do is find one of my Pages I created and create a Post using the same keywords as the Page. I then link the Post to the Page. It's the same concept as writing articles and submitting them to different article directories. What you are doing is making your Page appear to be the authority. What you end up with are different Pages, each with their own set of Posts to back them up/support their keywords.

The trick with posts is you don't want them pointing to pages on different topics. If you created a Products Page with a listing of particular acne products, you can back up that product with a post that is a review of the product. Now you certainly don't want this Post pointing to a different product, so keep your links in order! A Related Articles plugin works nice with posts because they can link keyword related posts.

If you file your posts under one category such as Blog, then make sure you disallow the category page in your robots.txt file. That's because all of your posts will appear listed in the /category/blog/ page and this goes against keeping your posts under the same silo. I tend to structure my WordPress categories to match the same structure as my Pages. It makes it easier for me and plus I prefer order.

Example #1 - Silo of a website




Example #2



Example #3

This is silo example for a company, but it would work the same way for your website. President is your homepage, Vice President, Marketing would be a Category with two sub-categories, Lead Generation and Marketing Development. The vertical bars under these sub-categories would be your articles.

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  • This is a good technique specially you gave an example about some keywords which is most difficult part of making a seo optimized page and it made this learning excellent. Thanks a lot for sharing your experiments.
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    • Nice informative post. One area I get confused in since I don't work with WordPress sites that much "I'm an HTML guy" is blocking the category with robots.txt. like you state above. If I would file all my posts under the category "BLOG" and block this category with a robots.txt Google will not index the blog posts within this category correct? If this is correct then how will the blog posts help with ranking the pages it is linked too?
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  • Great post. I never knew you could use the silo w/ a WP site.

    good job.
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    • There is a plugin called virtual silo that helps you pull all this together.
  • I read your post looking for anything you missed so that I could contribute to it but you nailed it.

    Yukon had a great image he planted on here from another post that complements the structure

    Well done, great post.
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  • Ya its hard to follow this with no Yukon type image
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  • Good try.Though this is so theoretical but contain information.if there is any videos or images it would be much easier to understand.
  • I included some pictures of a silo structure. They should give you a better visual understanding of how the structure works and looks. If you look at any well designed website, they all do something like this.
  • Sorry to revive this thread - but this a really great thread.

    My question - what would the consequences if we don't properly robots.txt out the spiders under categories? Wouldn't they spider it twice anyways?
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    • The purpose is to help the spiders better understand the structure of your website. Failure to robots.txt the categories pages should not cause harm, but it's best if the spiders access your posts through the proper silo. If all of your articles are posted under /category/blog/subcategory/ then you really don't want spiders accessing your artciles through this page, but instead from the parent Page with direct links to your articles.
  • this is good techniques of site structure keep it up
  • Wow! I haven't done this before. I guess, I should I apply this to my future niche site.
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    • It definitely keeps things organized if you have a niche with many keywords.
  • Thank you for this tutorial! This is exactly what I was looking for.

    I noticed when Mike Long's friend Greg?? talked about this his WordPress site was in the format of Site > Category>Sub-Category BUT when I looked at his URL of the subcategory pages it was NOT under the Category page.

    In otherwords, it was NOT like site.com/category/sub-category

    The sub category showed up on what seems like a menu plugin in the sidebar on only that Category page. But, when I clicked on the sub-category link the URL was site.com/sub-category

    NOTICE the category directory is NOT in the URL?

    How does he do this? And, does it matter if your do it this way or your way?

    Thanks again for this tutorial and for your reply.

    Charlie

  • He could be doing something with his permalinks to get it that way, or maybe they are pages? Its hard to say without looking at it.

    I prefer to have category/subcat in the url because it looks clean and organized to the visitor. I dont see why you wouldnt do it that way.
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    • Thanks for the reply "ltrain_riders"

      I was thinking it was some kind of "related post" plugin but I'm not sure how he would get it to show up on the category page and every sub-category page (b/c these pages are all related).

      The more important question is .... Does your method and his method BOTH have the "Silo Effect?"

      Thanks for your input,
      Charlie
  • Here's a hxxp://www.darkcircleseyetreatment.com I created a while back. Notice my Blog posts use the %postname% permalink. Home Remedies is a good example.
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    • I loved this theme can you tell me where you got it, thanks Cheryl
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    good solid info, this is exactly what a proper silo site should look like.....unlike the SILOTBOT plugin that Linkwhizz and KME is selling over on FSO that claims to build a silo structure just by linking relevant content together. This here is what all noobs starting out should learn, proper site architecture.....this takes time, planning and research and simply cannot be done in 5 mins using just a WP plugin!!! it's no wonder so many fail, they can't even get the basic seo right
  • Nicely described.
  • thanks,... good info...
  • Where in this layout would you place a sales page? A sales page obviously has no outbound links apart from the one that leads to the offer.
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    • An excellent question with more than one answer (apart from 'it depends on your site').

      Two of the possible answers are:
      All of the siloed pages 'could' lead to your sales page (if the siloed pages rank in the serps they act as a step in your sales funnel)
      The main index page could be your sales page which is re-inforced (SEO wise) by the siloed content.

      There's a course showing how you can create real silo structure using free WP plugins at http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...-new-post.html
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  • Does the landing page of the silo need to be focused on a keyword that has more searches than the supporting posts?

    Sarge
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    • Banned
      No, I just go with what makes sense as a category (my main keyword for that category). If you set it up right (focused) a lot of times you can get double/triple pages ranked per main keyword.
  • Any one can post sample of well silo structured website?. Please do not show big website i would like to see how it looks on simple example.

    Cheers,
    Kris
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    • Thanks so much, a very detailed but simple explanation, it has helped me a lot
  • I believe it's a theme from Elegant Themes. I forget which one.
  • Would this work by missing out most of step 4 all together? I mean.. main site keyword... then the category pages being the other related keywords as OP explained.. but then instead of creating a new article page for each of the keyword keywords.. why not just include those keywords in the category 1st tier article all in the same article. Just make it a real great informative long article using all of those 2nd tier keywords.. so in effect you end up with only 5 or so pages.... and then you can back up these pages with blog posts... so this would end up as a one silo type site.. easy for google and visitors to follow and woukld also result in really great articles... Did I explain that okay? Do you think this strategy would this work?
  • Whoa! This is very useful man. I might definitely try this on the niche sites that I am planning for my own project. An excellent guide for Wordpress users. Cheers!
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    • Hi,

      very good silo infirmation here, my noob greenhorn 2 cent;

      how I build a wordpress site with 500 deep pages?

      I need 50 sections/categorys and each has 10 posts?

      Need 10 sections/categroys within 50 posts each ?

      ?????

      What is best site build plan to handle this?


      best wishes
      marco005
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  • Hi,
    I have recently learned about Siloing, and I am now creating a site with Silo structure, and I am wondering how to categorize the sub-themes (topics) when there are many middle keywords that have synonyms.

    I will use my own example. My product is about "how to learn English" (in Japanese) and when I used PPC, as long as the keyword was related to learning English, I got conversion. So I am thinking of using "Learn English" as my main (top level) keyword, then I will make sub themes (categories) with some other related keywords.

    But, there are many synonyms that have high search volume for each. For example, "How to study English" "How to learn English" "How to improve English" "How to master English" "English learning method" ""English study method" etc. etc... Some of these keywords are small but they all have at least more than 1500/mo search volume and there are many long tail keywords for each.

    Anyway, my question is should I use all these keywords as the second level themes even though they are similar in meaning? Or should I group them in one category regardless of search volume if they are similar in meaning?
    Also, does it matter how many sub-themes in one site?

    Thanks
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    • You should use them as second level silo landing pages (categories) as they meet the requirement of having enough sub-keywords (minimum 5) to make effective silos

      The only limit to the number of sub-themes (silos) is keeping the link count per page to less than 100 - and with a silo site that usually means a maximum of 70 silos

      I've yet to find a niche that required more than 13 to 16 silos - most niches can be covered fully with 7 to 9 silos
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  • I detailed out my rankings on 3 new websites when I setup a silo structure and 301 redirected the old website. The results were pretty good! hxxp://www.seo-experiments.com/seo-experiments/silo-structures-301-redirects-ranking-competitive-keywords
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    • Hi there,
      I read your article. It is well written and interesting.Thank you for sharing

      One question though - you used a penguin penalized domain and 301ed to the new silo structure website(s) and the result seems good. However I have read many times that doing 301 from a penguin penalized site is a bad idea. I also read that new site gets high ranking if you re-direct the while site from the penguin penalized site, but it does not last and goes down wherever it used to.

      Your sites don't seem to be affected by this. Do you think it is something to do with the silo structure?You actually mentioned about it on the comment (someone asked the same question) and answered that you thought it was because the original site wasn't penalized manually. But from what I understand, manual or not manual, Penguin is Penguin, and it is bizarre to me...
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  • Does a menu bar really kill a silo?

    I want to try a silo set up on my new site. I can easily set up sidebars to contain links to only articles in the same silo. I just think the lack of a menu bar that contains links to each silo would kill the user experience.
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    • Banned
      There's different ways to manage site wide nav links, just depends on what you want to do.

      It all depends on how far you want to take it.

      You could even remove nav links from a single category or any other group of pages while displaying the nav links on the rest of the site. Example, a small group of squeeze pages doesn't necessarily need site wide nav links on the page/s. Something like a squeeze page is the final destination, no outbound links might increase conversion rates.

    • The home page links to all the silo landing pages

      The silo landing pages all link to each other and the home page

      The real difference from a user's point of view is the articles in the silos - they all link to each other and the silo landing page - and the home page

      The difference is that articles in a silo don't link out to pages not in their silo

      I don't regard it as being a problem - but it is something I get a lot of queries about - i.e. "can I have a top nav bar"

      Unless you iframe or ajax the "extra" navigation, it will destroy the siloing, and hence the whole point of the exercise

      This is what a silo site navigation system looks like:
      demo.siloplugin.com

      If you can't live with it, or use iframe and ajax link masking, then silo sites are not for you
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  • Hey guys,

    Trying to sort out this silo thing on our website. We are a software development company, and currently have the following main navigation links:

    - Home
    - Services
    - Process
    - Portfolio
    - Company
    - Contact

    It seems like most of my silos would go under services, such as database development, web development, mobile app development, etc. I also could have pages focused on technologies, such as .NET, PHP, etc. And then there are the hundreds of relevant keywords, such as computer programmer, custom software company, etc.

    Struggling to sort out how to organize these silos. Can anyone make some suggestions? I would greatly appreciate it!

    Thanks!
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    • You could do it like that:
      home/services/database-development/articles
      home/services/web-development/articles
      etc.

      But that will put your articles 4 levels deep

      Whereas:
      home/database-development/articles
      home/web-development/articles
      etc.

      Puts your articles 3 levels deep - which is the way I prefer (and the way our plugin does it)

      I also put mandatory pages such as about us, privacy, terms, etc. on the footer of the home page only, and not site-wide
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  • The best way to create a silo is to set up your pages by category(as mentioned above) and don't overcomplicated it. Just link them together in a natural fashion.
  • I had some plugins once that would do this for you, but one of them didn't work so it mucked it all up. I plan to develop one plugin that will do this silo linking for you. I have been told that it helps with ranking quite a bit.
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    • Banned
      Adding links to a page is only part of the work. It's the typical blog clutter (irrelevant links) that dilutes a page. A plugin will not remove all unnecessary internal links across all blogs running the same CMS. It could be done with a CMS theme since you could control the entire site source code but it's not going to happen with a plugin.
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  • I am trying to follow this but still not done. Just wondering if this is also applicable for free users of wordpress?
  • Hi there,
    I have learned a lot from this thread especially thanks to affilliate-script. I have already asked a similar question so I'm a bit hesitant to ask it again, but since I still got confused with some of my real sites, please forgive me about it. If anyone could answer this I would appreciate it.

    So I'm making a website about studying/learning English. I'm doing it in Japanese and when you look at the keywords below please take this into consideration (so that they won't get lost in translation - translated keywords in Japanese make sense).

    My site theme is "(learning) English", and I made subcategories of
    "Learn English" "Study English" "Improve English" "Grasp English" "Master English" etc.

    These subcategories are like mini sites. They have its own sub pages with long tail keywords like "Learn English online" "Learn English fast" "Learn English pronunciation" etc.

    So - I think I got this part good. The problem I have now is how to deal with other big keywords related to the main topic (learning English). For example, a keyword like "TOEIC." In case you don't know, TOEIC is an exam that a lot of English learners take in Japan. So it makes sense to talk about this (The Adwords keywords tool comes up with this word as highly related with "learn English")

    So, I want to use the keyword TOEIC in my website. Then, should I make a category for "TOEIC" as a single word?If so, then keyword phrases related to TOEIC such as "Study TOEIC" or "TOEIC highscore(oneword)" would have to go the third layer and long tail keywords under these phrases would go to the forth layer as described below.

    [English -index]

    (subcategory) Learn English
    (articles) learn English fast etc.

    (subcategory) master English
    (articles) master English grammar etc.

    -This part gets 3 layers
    -
    (subcategory) TOEIC
    (sub-subcategory) study TOEIC
    (articles) TOEIC efficiently

    In this case, should I just forget about TOEIC altogether? Or should I use keyword phrases with "TOEIC" for subcategories? (rather than using "TOEIC" as a subcategory) In this case it would be like

    English [index]

    (subcategory) study English
    (articles) study English online etc.

    (subcategory) learn English
    (articles) learn English website etc.

    (subcategory) study TOEIC
    (articles) study TOEIC efficiently etc.

    (subcategory) strategy TOEIC
    (articles) strategy TOEIC highscore

    I hope my question makes sense.
    Thank you!
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  • Hi there, I have a question about putting links to articles pages on the silo landing page.
    Since I have asked questions about my keywords already, I'll use the same keyword (TOEIC).

    My landing page for the silo "TOEIC" has links to individual articles with keywords such as "study for TOEIC" "TOEIC score" "TOEIC and TOEFEL difference" etc.

    When I put links on the landing page to these articles, if I include the keywords for them (or maybe just use the keywords = exact anchor texts?), then keyword density (how often the word "TOEIC" appears )on the silo landing page would be very high. So are on each individual article page because they have links to all other articles.

    Is it OK to have many keywords on the page as long as it is on the sidebar or footer etc. or should I tweak the anchor texts?

    Thanks
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    • As you are manually placing the links, then yes, do it cleverly - you could have your exact keyword within a longer keyword phrase

      e.g.

      "study for TOEIC" could be "study for TOEIC online"

      "TOEIC score" could be "TOEIC score values"

      I don't worry about it too much - and I don't manually make any internal links - but in-content anchor text links (like Wikipedia) are very powerful for SEO

      Just don't shoot yourself in the foot trying to avoid some hypothetical Google penalty
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  • http://i62.tinypic.com/2iuc9w1.jpg


    Hi guys I am still a litttle confused on the silo structure. The diagram attached is broken up in 3 pages. The home page just has navbar, slider and a paragragh with kw title and 3 boxes that will link to the parent pages.

    The next page is the first parent page from the link from first image box from the homepage

    The next page after that will be the child page.

    So it will be Home page, first parent page and then a child page.

    1. Will it be ok to have 3-5 pictures with H1 Titles and img alt with the keywords linking to my parent pages from the homepage.

    2. The way I am going to link the parents and children together is this ok: parent page links to the child and the home page then the child links down to another child then the last child links back to the parent page and the home page?

    Thanks guys really appreciate any help
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    • Re. 1.
      I'd make the home page title H1, the home page slogan H2, and the image titles H3 - and yes that's how you link from the home page to the silo landing pages

      Re. 2.
      The way we do it is, the silo landing page links to the home page and ALL the child pages of the silo. ALL the child pages of the silo link to each other, link to their parent silo landing page, and link to the home page

      What you describe is not wrong, but not ideal and not as user friendly as it could be (people hate daisy-chain navigation)
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  • Great post man. This is a good guide for those ego went to build silo or what George would call Google sniper sites. Nice one
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    • Hi I think I will pick up your plugin for a new website I am starting. I have a question as well

      I have a one page beautiful theme that I have purchased but ranking for the keywords I need has ridiculous competition and the only way I think I will rank it is by making it into an authority site over the coming months.

      Are you able to rank a 1 page website and make it authoritative via the blog page?
      I was thinking I could write unique articles many unique articles aiming for loads of KW's, is this possible with leaving the homepage ie one page website but having the blog articles linking back to it?

      Thanks
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  • Thanks for your explanation very good post
  • Hi guys how do you have a different navbar on each page ie you have the home page with your different topics, when the user clicks the topic they go to a sort of mini site with a different navbar to do with that topic? this mini site has articles links etc.

    Is it possible in wordpress?

    Thanks
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    • If someone can just clear this one thing up for me, id like to begin adding content to my silos.

      Is it okay to nest like this.... Home/instruments/guitar/best guitar for kids
      or should i go with

      home/guitar/best guitar for kids. (guitar would be under index page "instruments")

      Lets say our site is about Music in general.

      Music/instruments/bestguitarforkids

      music/instruments/guitar/bestguitarforkids
      music/instruments/guitar/bestguitarforadults

      I feel as though having it 4 links deep is better for the user, and possibly google.

      They can navigate your site via the url, so if i wanted to look up more instruments, i can just deleted the url and get to instruments. ( i navigate sites like this usually)

      Its tough to take the word of someone who is promoting a plug-in as well. so the confusion will always be there, and is also why i take Yukons advise most of the time.
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    • Yes you can do it with wordpress

      You can do it the hard way - navigation widgets and logic code plugin - where you have multiple navigation widgets and a long list of page ID's you want to show on particular sections of your site

      Its not ideal - and each site has to be programmed individually - as the page ID's will be different

      Or you can purchase a silo plugin from various people (including me) - then its done automatically for you
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    Google looks at hierarchy on a site (URL structure). That's pretty much proven when setting up a site to help generate Google Sitelinks.

    Don't try & nest too deep away from the main category page. I haven't found a need to nest any deeper than 3 pages, which is optimal for traffic & SEO (tight site structure).

    Example: hxxp://cars.com/ford/mustang

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    Is silo more of a linking structure or url structure?
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    • Yukon, I may have missed something, and, if I did, I apologize.

      With the category page (ford) and the supporting pages (mustang, etc.), isn't it the best practice to have only links to the category page and support pages and not have links to other categories or other pages on the website? And isn't this extremely difficult, if not impossible, with wordpress?

      Thanks!
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    • Yukon, if you can clear this up for me..

      Are you saying
      cars.com/ford/mustang/best-mustang-rims ( is this considered 3 pages or 4 pages deep)
      is the correct way?
      or the wrong way?
  • I think maybe we just need an extra page that isn't in our url? does that work?

    so it would be. Domain.com/Cats

    then from there it would lead you into the silos.

    domain.com/cat-food/best-cat-food.

    Is this maybe something we are missing that we can implement, or does this break the silo, i mean if we internal link properly i dont see how this would case harm.

    So it would be like, domain.com/medicine-reviews

    which would lead them on to a page with our category silos that are for medicine

    domain.com/advil/advil-pm
    domain.com/advil/advil-am

    But then couldn't we eliminate the middle man, and just have the links on our home page. in the side bar under title
    Medicine-reviews (doesn't link to anything, just a title of a widget)
    advil reviews (leads to their silo )
    nyquil reviews (leads to their silo)

    Thus giving us the 3 deep silo we want?

    But i am not sure, because i still like the 4 deep structure.

    Domain.com/medicine/advil/how-many-advils-are-too-many
    domain.com/advil/how-many-advils-are-too-many

    In the 4deep structure, we don't link back to medicine, from our parent pages. (advil)
    Maybe eventually, once we make some posts under medicine, top 3 medicines to have in your cupboard. etc.

    then we link back and start ranking for the term medicine. This is why id like to use 4 deep.

    so the ask the same question again:

    Domain.com/medicine/top-3-pills-to-keep (links to medicine)
    domain.com/medicine/advil/advil-pm-review (links to advil, advil doesn't link to medicine)
    domain.com/medicine/cough-syrup/best-cough-syrup is a silo, doesn't link back to medicine.
  • Yukon,
    I do understand how important it is to keep things simple etc.
    Also I want to keep it within 3 levels.
    But what if the keyword at the bottom of silo is competitive itself?

    In your example,
    Fruit.com > berries > **** berry

    As you probably know **** berry is a competitive keyword.

    Do you think if "berries" category gets enough authority by other supporting pages etc., it is possible to rank "**** berry"?
    Meaning without supporting pages such as "**** berry juice""**** berry pills" etc. under "**** berry" category?

    What if I wanted to have "**** berry juice" etc?
    Would you put them under "berries" rather than under "**** berry"?

    Thanks!
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    • I've put some thought into it, it makes more sense to me now.

      Fruits.com/Berries/****-Berry/****-berry-juice

      This is fine for user and google.

      If you wish to show more relevancy to google, you take out the berries, and streamline more power to ****-berry. Now you're getting the full power from both ends. This tells google that your ****-berry page now is more about ****-berrys then it originally thought.

      The berries page will never rank for ****-berrys, or it will and it will rank above your ****-berry page, but that makes no sense, the searcher is looking for ****-berries, not other berries.
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  • ikuret75, you'll drive yourself crazy with this TOEIC stuff

    You've taken a dead-simple task and twisted it all different ways

    I'm now suggesting this:
    1/ just put the bloody thing on the site as a TOEIC silo, then put however many TOEIC related articles as you feel is necessary - up to a limit of 60 or 70 articles

    2/ Build a second site specifically about TOEIC - and build all the silos you feel you need, and add articles to each silo - again with a limit of 60 or 70 articles per silo

    Seriously, just get on with it!
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    • Thank you for your suggestion(s).
      Yeah I actually have been making articles and it is the matter of how I put them in the site. That's why it is tricky for me. Kind of the last step for me here and don't want to ruin it by a wrong structure.
      Also this bothers me theoretically.

      Anyway, thank you again for your help!
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  • Siloing your WordPress website is not complicated. There is no one way to do it, since WordPress can be setup and structured in a myriad of ways.

    I started a small time blog and decided to use categories as my structure instead of pages. This means each main category is the top tier of my silo, then I subcategorize within each main silo. That's it. The main category is a general topic keyword, then the subcategories are longer tail descriptive keywords. And I don't even bother making it keyword exact, because I'm more interested in making it make sense for users.

    I have seen good organic traffic from Google, though not much since the content is only 50 or so posts and I haven't had time to do daily updates. I'm sure if I could do that, I would see significant increases in traffic.

    If you are finding this topic way complicated, then I advise learning more about WordPress itself before you tackle something you don't understand.
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    • What you've done is better than nothing - but you've said nothing about if/how you've avoided the usual WordPress navigation of every page linking to every other page, and voiding the core principle of a silo site - no cross linking of content in one silo to content in a different silo
  • Let me first say thanks to everyone on this thread for taking sincere time and making sincere efforts to answer questions. It's def refreshing to see others genuinely taking the time to help others. Now that that's out there, I have to say I have read and re-read this and am more confused than ever LOL. My first question is this: Am I understanding correctly that you are saying that the silo structure is only for one item niche style sites? In other words are you saying that the silo structure is not applicable to say a local restaurant?
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    • Banned
      You can take it as far as you want/need, just depends on what you have to sell/promote.
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    • A true silo site needs a minimum of 3 silos, and a minimum of 5 articles per silo

      If you do not have the minimum above, then the site will not be as effective

      Silo sites can be used for just about any type of niche - just that you normally see the site architecture used on large-scale sites such as amazon.com, about.com, etc.

      For your particular needs of a local mexican restaurant, I'd base the silos on mexican food and drink, rather than the city the restaurant is located in

      So I'd have silos for:

      Mexican Appetizers
      Mexican Side Dishes
      Mexican Desserts
      Mexican Drinks
      Mexican Food for Kids
      etc.

      The articles would also be food and drink related, and assigned to the most suitable silo - e.g.

      Traditional Mexican Desserts
      Enchilada
      Mexican Food for Lunch
      Mexican Food for Christmas
      Mexican Chicken Dishes
      Mexican Casserole
      etc.

      You can sprinkle the name of the restaurant and the city on the home page, and silo landing pages - that should be good enough, when you also have about us, contact us, etc. pages where you can place the local info more heavily
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  • Yukon-

    Thanks for the reply. So ok let's stick with my "example" of a restaurant. Could a local restaurant or local business silo their businesses site? Let's say that some of the kw's they wanted to rank for were mexican restaurant xyz city, best mexican restaurant xyz city, best tequila xyz city, best margarita xyz city, authentic mexican menu xyz city. Would each of those kw's be the top of the silo? And then if yes, would you look to get some LSI kw's related to each of those to create the supporting articles? This is where I get confused LOL...thanks again in advance
  • @affiliate-script - first, thanks for taking the time to offer input...much appreciated. Second if we continue using the Mexican restaurant, and adding to what you sent back to me, would these be my silo landing pages?:

    Mexican Appetizers
    Mexican Side Dishes
    Mexican Desserts
    Mexican Drinks
    Mexican Food for Kids

    This is totally no ones fault but I think what has added to my already existing massive confusion are the multiple terms that are seemingly being interchanged for one another lol...

    And then assuming that lets say Mexican Restaurant Los Angeles was my main KW couldn't I make a silo landing using that KW for the home page?

    Now if the restaurant served several cities couldn't I make the following silo landing pages

    Mexican Restaurant Los Angeles
    Mexican Restaurant San Diego
    Mexican Restaurant San Francisco
    Mexican Restaurant Hollywood
    Mexican Restaurant Bay Area
    Mexican Restaurant Etc...

    As always to all that contribute, thanks in advance
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    • I always use home page, silo landing page, article page when discussing siloing - because I never know if people will be using category/post for the silo and silo article - or if they will be using page/child page - or maybe even using a PHP script, or xsite pro

      Yes,

      Mexican Appetizers
      Mexican Side Dishes
      Mexican Desserts
      Mexican Drinks
      Mexican Food for Kids

      would be the silo landing pages


      Re.
      And then assuming that lets say Mexican Restaurant Los Angeles was my main KW couldn't I make a silo landing using that KW for the home page?

      Mexican Restaurant Los Angeles would be the topic of your home page - and the home page is not a silo landing page

      The 3 levels deep silo structure is:
      Home page
      Silo landing page
      Article page

      Re.
      Now if the restaurant served several cities couldn't I make the following silo landing pages

      Mexican Restaurant Los Angeles
      Mexican Restaurant San Diego
      Mexican Restaurant San Francisco
      Mexican Restaurant Hollywood
      Mexican Restaurant Bay Area
      Mexican Restaurant Etc...

      You'd need to go for a 4 levels deep site architecture to do that - i.e. the silo landing pages would now be sub-silos below each of the above

      e.g.

      mexrestaurant.com/mexican-restaurant-los-angeles/mexican-appetizers/silo-article

      I never go that route - I always blueprint new sites with a 3 level deep silo architecture

      I feel so strongly about the disadvantages of 4 levels deep siloing, that I won't even release a wordpress plugin to do it
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  • Script, you're a gentleman and a scholar.

    Im just still confused.

    I would like to make an authority site.

    Home Page
    Silo
    Article

    thats fine. but say i wanted a bigger site.

    Home page
    Silo
    Article

    Theres only so many silos i can fit on the home page and still make it look nice.

    Is it okay to make another "home" / Index page?
    so it would be

    Home>>>index 2

    and there you would go into silo/article .. and the url would still be Home/silo/article
    Or because does google not work that way and still consider that a 4 level deep silo.

    An example would be the website :
    http://www.consumersearch.com/

    http://www.consumersearch.com/home-and-garden


    Are they doing it wrong or is this a correct silo.

    Technically you have to click a few times to get into the actual silo . Is this considered a 3 silo deep silo structure? Pretty much if its a yes or no will solve my problems haha.
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    • Yes, its 3 deep as they short-circuit the navigation once you start getting into the site

      Its a neat trick - got our programmer looking at it now, as it would solve the problem of people wanting 4 levels deep siloing, and me refusing to release our deep silo plugin (purchasers would shoot themselves in the foot with it)


      EDIT:
      OK, had our programmer take a look at it, and they're not even masking the top navigation bar links - which means that those links are breaking the silos

      He's got a few ideas about how they're doing it - but we'll be sticking to genuine 3 levels deep siloing
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  • Thanks for the guide, will definitely try it soon.

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