Creating my Private Blog Network

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Hello,
I need your help guys, if possible

Im creating my own blog network, consisting of :
4 Hosting Accounts (Currently only 1 on Godaddy, need cheaper hosting options for the 3 remaining) to ensure 4 different Class C IPs

Each hosting account will consist of 3-5 websites (1 Forex, 1 Gaming, 1 Health, and 1 undecided yet)

I am buying Expired domains (PR2+) with decent amount of Backlinks on them

Another question, to retain a PR2+ domain, I am creating additional links to the domain + Writing 20-30 unique blog posts, how long should these posts be? and is this count enough?

Now I am supposed to have around 20 PR2+ blogs, serving 4 different niches.

All domains are Private.

Any suggestions are MORE than welcome, Im really interested.
#search engine optimization #blog #blog network #creating #network #private
  • Are you doing this for SEO purposes? If so it might be easier to just pay for a membership at a much bigger blog network that you can benefit from way more than a small network.
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    • Larg Blog Networks are being de-indexed pretty fast
      To compensate for costs paid, I will sell some links on blogrolls, not decided yet.

      This is the only Blog Network I could trust. MINE !!!
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  • How do you find expiring pr2+ blogs, and how do you know no one is going to renew them?
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    • Through Godaddy's auctions.
      I bulk check for their PR or goto expireddomains dot net to see the full list
      Its very helpful, I advise you to check it out.

      About the owner, if he renews, then Godaddy refunds my cash fully.
      However, if someone leaves the website till its hostless, then most probably, he wont renew.

      My 50th post, finally, I can PM
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  • My only real suggestion would be the rather obvious one:

    With your own network, it would be really easy to swarm a whole bunch of links from all of those blogs to a new site. I'd recommend against it due to how obvious that would make the system. Make sure to set some other external links!
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    • The main site which is the beneficiary of all this, got more than 400 Backlinks built over a year. Definitely adding few blogrolls that add around 200 links in 2 months wont ever make a biggie.

      Thanks for the tip though
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  • My signature is quiet cheap. Might be able to offer you a deal if you host the rest with us
  • Hi there,

    Just a quick question - what is the real benefit of having your own Network of Blogsites? It sounds like a really good idea and relatively easy to implement but why?
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    • The idea is simple. You 'fool' Google into thinking that the websites aren't under your control and are giving you an in-content 'editorial' backlink to your main 'money site.'

      Of course your competitors and hand checkers from Google might not be so convinced. That's the reason you always have to hide your domain registrations and IP details. It's so you can pretend that bloggers are 'blogging about your main website.'

      Of course you still need to update these blogs constantly with really good content so it becomes a never ending process of 'feeding the beast.'
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  • Create more , using blogger blogs, this will increase your back-links!
  • A great tool you can use to search for expired domains is domainpeeker, it searches through multiple auctions, and you can filter the results. I just got a pr4 domain. I was going to start my own private blog network, but it can get expensive. I am going to just use the expired domain as my money site.
  • Blog networks are a great way to achieve and maintain rankings that you wouldn't normally be able to get regardless of great content. Theres an upstart cost and some setup time but after that they're pretty easy to run. The idea that you constantly need to add content is not at all true. I have network sites that haven't been updated in months that are keeping rankings solid for some of my best sites.

    Even if you take a 100% white hat approach that works really well. You'll be able to rank even better if you have some really high PR sites thrown in to the mix. A good solid network also gives you the ability to rank just about anything with ease and rank newer sites quickly.
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    • Okay, so you don't update content at all. Your 'backlink website' just sits there year in and year out becoming less important in the eyes of Google. As the site diminishes in value, so do the links from it. Right?

      If you have hundreds of these websites, management costs start to add up. If you just leave them all there, where are these websites getting backlinks from?

      I mean the blog network idea makes a bit of sense, and I'll take your word for it that it's been working for awhile. That said, it seems likely that the network and the links from the network will continue to diminish in value as time goes. At least BMR had a solution to that in the guise of always adding new posts and new blogs.

      All I see is a low quality network fueled by low quality backlinks diminishing in value over time. Plus, any network you build by hand by yourself will have a very small footprint.

      Would something like this work for pushing 'micro niche sites' to the top? Sure it would. But so would a handful of backlinks from real websites.

      It's all a matter of how you want to spend time, money, and resources.

      You still have to care for and feed a network of websites IN ADDITION to your primary websites! You're making your work even more difficult.

      Why is this so advantageous over just focusing on the primary website and taking the steps necessary to making that a success? (Ads, social networking, real networking, fast loading, modern design etc).
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  • Whoa!.....Guess what? Blog Network Gurus are back!
    May god bless and save you people.
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    • Huh??? How can setting up websites, choosing to host on different servers, and using private domains be against policy? Show me that anywhere in Google's TOS or best practices.

      And "bad for SEO"? are you serious? Maybe you mean a bunch of nonsensical re-spun articles of various niches and backlinks on every page? Then, yes - obviously - that's why we are all here discussing the right way to do it.

      Facts are, those silly networks did work. I made a LOT of money using a "private" one. But, once Google caught on, all the links are gone and so is most of the money. I never could figure out how they were working anyway - the articles were completely unreadable and a link just placed randomly in the middle of a paragraph (along with 1000 other customers links) - but it did work.

      What we are talking about here is a different animal completely. We are saying create multiple sites, hiding footprint as much as possible, use great content, and have a backlink to another site that is important to you in the same niche. This is a truly "private" network that is only for yourself.

      For many of us, this is a couple hours work and then a bit of time each week.

      Neither against TOS or bad for SEO.
  • I didn't hear anyone mention posting blogs with zero OBL.

    I create a niche blog, put a few subpages in the header profiling some of our better pay clients, then post a blog once a week or so for lower playing clients or just a blog to be a blog with no OBL. Obviously I use photos, videos, authority links every once in a while. Some blogs have monetization, some don't.

    Mike Anthony's setup would be ideal, but its time consuming enough and I'm trying to do it on a budget as well. I also think he is right about keeping the OBL low, but if somehow Google ever visits a website like that...its just a static website with a few links and no updating. I prefer to update it a few times a month, just to make it look more "real".

    Either way, everyone has their own ideas on how it should work -- no one has the perfect setup, because there is always a risk running private blog networks. We're all right....until we're wrong.
  • None of this is against Google TOS. Do you know how many domains the New York Times, Facebook, Fox ect.. own that all link back to their main pages. No where in Google's TOS do they say you are not allowed to link to your own websites.
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    • You are wrong. If you have billions of dollars, then it is not against Google's TOS.
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    • Agreed. That's why I never hide the fact I'm doing it. The only thing Google says is to avoid "participating in link schemes" in order to manipulate PageRank. Of course every 'dofollow' link you add to another website passes PageRank. Whether that's a link scheme or not is not up to me to decide.

      It's up to Cutts. And we can probably guess what he thinks about it.

      BMR had unique content and it didn't save them. Of course their marketing was likely what brought them down (Build My 'Rank' hehe)
    • Thing with that is that they can just as easily decide that your links from your own site is manipulative. So disregard any bad advice about not putting Whois protection on at least some of your domains. Google may be a registrar but there is nothing published anywhere I see where a registrar for non registrar business can violate whois privacy sold by another registrar. Thats lawsuit territory and its probably not even possible because its the registrar that sells the whois privacy that holds the actual data for the whois protected part.

      Yes of course Most. After all the reason that Google went after BMR was because their links haven't worked in years.

      ....... Its both funny and sad at the same time.
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  • Well, I didnt know my thread would be that HEFTY with responses
    Anyways, I've read that some of you guys think that a Blog Network is solely for crappy websites, definitely NOT.

    Quality and Unique content is NOT enough for highly competitive keywords. I might be a little bit different than most of the people around here, I choose to rank for higher competitive keywords, and my content is PRETTY UNIQUE that I get some offers to write for super quality sites, and I refused, coz I got a goal and its to promote MINE!
    Now, with Blog posting being everywhere and SEO Providers give 10 blog posts at a cheap price in every forum, I CANT beat them with normal referrers, at least I need an initial boost, then after being high in the SERPs, the momentum will continue using NATURAL link building. Gaming Niche is not easy for selective keywords!!!!

    I tried low competition keywords before, and content alone was enough, just add a few directory submissions and few articles in article directories (and 10 Press Releases optionally) and you're guyaranteed a first page! This is not the case for ME.

    If anyone reading this thread is competing for a LOW/Medium keyword, you are in the WRONG thread!

    About private registrations, and Domain Regs... I advise using several hosting providers, and use private regs... Both will cost you around 65USD/year combined. (Godaddy a bit higher).

    and again, no one was wrong or right in this thread, I learnt that in SEO there are 1000s of strategies, all of them could be correct.. what is wrong is HOW YOU APPLY THEM!!!!

    One last tip : Article SPINNING IS A NIGHTMARE... If you hate to read an article after 2 lines, your visitors have the same feeling.. believe me!!!

    Good Luck
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    • DEFINITELY. It will save you tons of time doing SEO for every new site in your blog network.

      Just be careful, buy ONLY ones with the following criteria :
      1) Backlinks from 50+ Different Domains
      2) Relevant to your niche
      3) Make sure you redesign the website using the same old architecture, to avoid losing the link juice incoming to internal pages.
      4) Start writing content immediately, else google might think to re-index it.
      5) BEST to buy Expired domains after PR updates
    • It can be great period. But like audit says, make sure you do a little research on the domain and definitely build it out right away.

      I recently bought a nearly 5 year old domain with good PR. With all the projects I have going, I took my time to build out the site once I had control of the domain. It was de-indexed in that time period

      But, I did the common sense things to get it indexed and after about a week (longer than my usual indexing time), I got it indexed - but 0 PR now.

      So, lesson learned and shared - build it out when you get it.

      Mean time, the domain name is so cool and the fact that it's aged is a plus for me. So, I'm glad I got it.
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  • The idea that PR is a footprint is a bit far fetched considering every domain in Google's index has a PR rating on their end and the majority of sites that have been indexed for awhile have some PR seen on the users end. I think thats over thinking it a bit.
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    • Whats the main reason you wouldn't just buy domain names using different accts / names etc and just use free blog services such as blog.com and wordpress.com?

      As long as you used only one of all of the different "free" services that are available, all of your IP addresses would be different as well as the domain names.
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  • Cheers Chaps, that explains why its not a good idea :-(

    I think I'll try a 5-10 site self hosted network and then grow it from there - Mike Anthony, are these sub $3 hosts reliable?

    One more question How would you link them to stop big G from catching on??

    If you only link from the network to your money site, then that's detectable, if you use a conventional link-wheel setup then that's also detectable and I've read that even if you randomize links, it's still detectable
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    • Check webhostingtalk. No way anyone can tell you all sub $3 hosts are reliable anymore that all $20 per month hosts are reliable. Do your research (and that can be done on the same site referenced)
  • Google will soon catch you. BuildMyRank was also banned by Google. Blog networks are really considered spam.
  • make sure that you keep on adding as many class C IP addresses as much as possible.
  • Creating a blog network is something I have been toying with for ages. How many sites do you think it is ok to have on the same IP? Do you only add links within blog posts?

    Thanks for the great info guys!
  • Hi guys, I was wondering if any one with experience running their own network can point out some good software, system, app, web service etc... for centrally maintaining a blog network. Ive seen several services out there for this, most are monthly fees, some people use AMR and in the future, rumor is you'll be able to use Nuke for this, plus curate content. So any favorites or suggestions? Drip feeds, auto updates for plugins, curations etc... anyone know? TIA
  • there are so many enthusiastic people
  • SEO hosting that rely just the different IP class C but on are in the same machine. Do you think Google cannot track that link originate from same person. Try to host private blog network in several location can be make more sense to do.
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    • Seems like a lot of people are considering a blog network.

      Here are some tips for getting started.

      1. If you already have a bunch of sites and a hosting account or two, they are ****ed. They already have a footprint, so keep your new network separate.

      2. Even if you want to build a huge network you want to start small and in one little tiny pocket of the web where you can get the most value from a small network

      3. Getting Started

      A. Pick your broad category - example: health & fitness
      B. Pick sub categories - example: sports, outdoors, weight loss, cooking
      C. If you are doing this for SEO only find 4 sites per sub category that will be easiest to rank, if you want to profit from these sites, find EMDs that will make you something
      D. Buy: 4 shared hosting accounts
      E. Each hosting account should have its own domain registrar account - so if a site gets hosted on your bluehost account you only register those domains with your networksolutions account or whatever - keep everything separate

      Don't use SEO hosting that is a dead giveaway.

      Doing this will give you: 4 site per hosting account (all 4 with the same domain registrar but in different niches)

      Congrats - you now have a 16 site blog network

      4. Build a spreadsheet and keep track of:
      domain name and register
      host
      WP theme used
      analytic software installed - if any
      revenue source - if any

      If you don't keep track of this you are going to **** up, it gets really hard to manage really quickly

      5. To expand - every time you add a hosting account you can create 4 new sites + 1 site on every existing hosting account, so your sites increase by:
      16 - 4 host accounts - 4 sites per
      25 - 5 host accounts - 5 sites per
      36 - 6 hosting accounts - 6 sites per
      49 - 7 hosting accounts - 7 sites per
      64 - 8 hosting accounts - 8 sites per
      81 - 9 hosting accounts - 9 sites per
      100 - 10 hosting accounts - 10 sites per

      You won't have any footprint at this point.

      If you wish to monetize or track traffic you should stick to one form per hosting account. So your 10 sites on Bluehost can have adsense and a clicky account and your 10 sites on Hostgator can have amazon affiliate and a separate clicky account, and so on.

      After 100 sites you can either start over with a new cluster or keep building.

      Not really hard. Just more expensive/time consuming than making 100 sites on one hosting account.
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  • Can I just ask..what is wrong with seo hosting? What is the purpose of seo hosting?
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