Why are you still buying backlinks if the end result is a google penalty?

I totally agree.

This is old formula- find a keyword build backlinks to rank for that keyword. But what I want to know is how do you propose to build backlinks for a medium competition keyword these days without getting the unnatural backlinks notice?


If you want to rank for lets say ultrasound technician your going to need a boat load of backlinks, so how in the world are you going to rank high for a term like that without getting penalized.

absolutely. most of seo software producers even boast the power of their softwares and some people think it is true. Today lot of seo service providers just use these softwares such as senuke x, magic submitter, scrape box and so on with some seo link building strategy. Nothing more than that. actually anyone can do it if they know the strategy. Otherwise result will be F

Remarkable how few people vocalize this truth!

lol, so true.

Honestly I think those same backlinking services will turn to offering packages to hurt your competition lol.

Edit: I really hope that people don't turn to these kind of tactics, I mean you would be messing with people lives, money, business etc.
I am in the process of doing the same thing a ton of content a just little to no backlinking. I have one brand new site that's only 9 days old that is already get longtail traffic which is what I rely on. I plan on building my income up to what it once was in a matter of 2 or 3 months.

I am not a expert on the subject of backlinks but currently my personal method is to just build my sites with at least 100 articles and backlink sparingly. I mean just a few links a week.

I was thinking the same thing ,how long do you think it will be before google penalizes you for these buffer sites. Remember what schemes work now will most likely be outdated this time next year.

Thanks to the OP for a great post. It's kind of like If they outlawed gasoline, why are people still selling cars?

Want to ask jimnastics: What's you chosen Web 2.0 to try this with? I was thinking Pinterest or a youtube channel (Google own)

This may be true, and it's got me thinking about building one massive site around a general keyword like "doctors" a subject like that has endless possibilities to bring in long tail traffic and because the medcial niche pays well it wouldn't take that many clicks to make good money, I know this from personal experience.

Why are people still trying to buy services? Many reasons.

1) Some people don't even know there are other ways to get links to their website (especially if they only started this business in the last year or two). So when one network goes down, they look for another. It's what they've been taught.

2) Building your own network can be time consuming and expensive - they think about it for five minutes, and then pale at all the work involved and look to buy into another network because they think it's easier and cheaper (of course getting your links deindexed over and over is really expensive in the long run, but people arn't thinking long term)

3) Doing guest posting or writing good link-bait is also time consuming, people try it for a day, then think, there must be an easier way, and lo and behold some link seller tells them there is a push-button method that is cheap, and they go for it. It's the same reason some people buy diet pills instead of making themselves exercize every day.

One thing is a lot of these so called SEO's have been using back links mainly for Serps, which is the most stupidest thing to do.

If the focus was just Serps, then simple on page SEO will rank you on top along with other factors.

That is what I love about Sniper SEO, no matter how big your competition is you can always find a weakness and exploit it.

When you build back links, just do it right. Links for Targeted Traffic.

Cool thread, lots of food for thought!

Bulk backlinking still works if you are doing it smart.
Of course you shouldn`t rely on it as the only one solution , it should be just one of the tools in your marketing arsenal sort of "do not put all eggs in one basket".
Also agree with the posters above that big G will call any backlinking tactic use to increse your rank as "unnatural".
Btw . I don`t think G will ban your site from search results for using bulk backlinks , it would be too easy for competitors to smash each other - just click the button to create thousands of baclinks of your competitor...more likely they will just remove them...

When Mike Anthony sees this he's going to pop a blood vessel. I'm no expert but what you are doing is a horrible idea, you should stop asap before you destroy your sites.

I think you're on to something there.

Google via cutts has said that of all the links on the web, only low single digit percentages are nofollow. Other crawlers like OSE confirm it's only 4 - 8 %.

I see alot of manipulative sites with backlink profiles ranging from 25% to 50% nofollow. That's a big red flag when you consider that most legit sites have no more than 5 - 15 % nofollowed inbound links.

Why would I burst a blood vessel? I am The Quan of SEO . IF a guy wants to tank his site with Fiverr gigs then I am all for it. Hopefully he is in one of my serps. One less competitor to deal with

Mixing up junk usually ends up in junk though. Don't know if you mean that but theres a few people running around with the nonsense that if you take one hundred spammy forum profiles , mix it in with 100 bookmarks and season it with a blast of blog comments it will turn into yummy wedding cake

Nah it will still be seen as sludge by Google


I do';t think you even know what you are saying there. Black hat can include hacking into people's sites to leave links, Should we do that to make up the 100%?

Agree with this. I have said it before. I don't buy that any one company that bases its entire existence on making money for themselves gets to be the judge on right and wrong and morality. Google doesn't even play by its own rules. it talks about manipulating user experience but then puts three ads on the very top which are paid for. Thats playing the hypocrite. And no, no one will ever convince me that putting that light pastel color box around it makes it any different. I have seen people clicking those links and not realizing they are ads.

But thats exactly why I disagree with you on the 100% black hat comment. Just because Google doesn't get to determine right and wrong or black and white doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. The anything that goes crowd doesn't care that they are spamming, disturbing people's properties, trolling on communities and their discussions or anything else but making a buck. Thats wrong.

Whether it works or not is not the sole determiner of how people should act plus it doesn't work like it used to and it won't even more going forward nor should it. Now if I have a site with high pr and it belongs to me. I will link where I like and how I like - just like I see google do.

People buy backlinks because it is an easy way to rank your site. Its an arms race between Google devaluing types of links, and new link schemes. Its been this way for years. That doesnt meant that every bought backlink is a bad one. There are some people who only use fiverr gigs to rank their sites for example. They may get an unnatural links notice, they may not. Frankly, their is a lot of bad information about linkbuilding on warrior forum.

Yeah well, with the title: " Why are you still buying backlinks if the end result is a google penalty?", he obvious means all those crappy links that people still buy a ton at Fiverr and also plenty of crap in the for sales section here.

For the fun of it you should check the most crappy gig's, some have like 5000+ sales, it's really unbelievable.