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Why So Many Adsense Accounts Are Being Banned...

by brettb
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OK, here's my theory on why so many AdSense accounts are being banned. Feel free to provide evidence to support or rubbish this theory!

This theory is interesting because it rubbishes the other theories out there (coupon sites, too many sites, EMD's, etc.)

Here's what's going on. This year we're in recession. This is because oil is > $100 a barrel - just like in '08. Sure, Apple are doing well. Some folk here are doing well. But people like Apple are only doing well because people like Nokia are going to the wall .

The man on the street has no money. I see this in the very low conversion rates I'm currently getting for my CPA offers.

Low conversion rates you ask? This is CRUCIAL because it's why people are being banned.

Most folk (especially the big names who have had accounts banned) are deliberately targeting $1+ click keywords. These are for big ticket items that folk don't really want to buy right now (or they'll shop around for). So you're getting big value clicks, but your AdWords advertisers aren't getting any sales.

So if my theory is right, then you need to:

1. Stop exclusively targeting big value keywords. This is giving your AdSense account an "un-natural" profile.
2. Don't just target "buyer" keywords. Target the big volume "worthless" keywords related to your niche.
3. Don't be too aggressive about ad placement (accidental clicks are terrible news for you - I managed to click one of my own ads when my mouse wheel slipped!).
4. Don't make small sites for large value keywords. If you're relying on 1 click a week and that click is invalid for some reason, then your account just got a major red flag.
5. Make sure you join CPA affiliate programmes of your major AdSense advertisers. If your CPA income for red widgets is way lower than your AdSense income for red widgets, then you need to be worried.
#accounts #adsense #banned
  • Profile picture of the author ketset
    I think it's quite simple - People are getting banned for not following the rules.

    There will always be conspiracies surrounding Mega-companies and some of them may be true but Google Needs Publishers to advertise if they ban everyone it is not in Google's interest.

    The more and more and people who try to make money online the more that systems like Adsense are open to abuse.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    People get banned because they don't have time for TOS.

    It's not complicated to keep an Adsense account.
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    • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
      WRONG, if you get large enough traffic, your adsense account will be banned sooner or later. It just take a few click bomb events to get banned. At some point you will encounter someone that hates your website for some reason and click bomb your adsense.

      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      People get banned because they don't have time for TOS.

      It's not complicated to keep an Adsense account.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by looking4adsense View Post

        WRONG, if you get large enough traffic, your adsense account will be banned sooner or later. It just take a few click bomb events to get banned. At some point you will encounter someone that hates your website for some reason and click bomb your adsense.
        WRONG,

        Lol, so what's the magic traffic number to get banned, 1 trillion hits per day? Your traffic comment is so unrealistic.

        I've been running Adsense for 5+ years on multiple sites & not a single problem with my account, amazing what following a TOS will do, well, that & some common sense.
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        • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
          Simple, your traffic is not large enough. My adsense account traffic was 6M pageview per month before it was banned, what's yours?

          There's no "magic traffic number", but once you get to a large traffic amount, your risk of getting banned is increasingly high, and it increases with traffic. Unless you get all your traffic from a single huge authority site that google knows isn't gaming the system.

          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          WRONG,

          Lol, so what's the magic traffic number to get banned, 1 trillion hits per day? Your traffic comment is so unrealistic.

          I've been running Adsense for 5+ years on multiple sites & not a single problem with my account, amazing what following a TOS will do, well, that & some common sense.
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          • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
            Originally Posted by looking4adsense View Post

            Simple, your traffic is not large enough. My adsense account traffic was 6M pageview per month before it was banned, what's yours?

            There's no "magic traffic number", but once you get to a large traffic amount, your risk of getting banned is increasingly high, and it increases with traffic. Unless you get all your traffic from a single huge authority site that google knows isn't gaming the system.
            Wrong totally wrong there no such thing that when you get more traffic your chances of getting banned increases. Sorry i may sound a bit harsh but thats a totally stupid thought. I got about 371,740 pageviews last month and as i mentioned above i was even saved from getting banned.
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            • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
              My account get that much in 2 days, your traffic simply isn't big enough yet. For my traffic level, it took 6 years for my account to accumulate enough "infractions" to get permanently banned. So with your traffic, I imagine it'd take about 100 years. That's why you haven't been banned yet.

              Also the other factor is if you get the traffic from a single huge authority site, or in my case from hundreds of sites. The risk of getting banned is much lower if the traffic is from a single huge authority site.

              Though if you don't believe me, let me know what's your adsense publisher #. I guarantee I can get you banned within a month or so.

              Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

              Wrong totally wrong there no such thing that when you get more traffic your chances of getting banned increases. Sorry i may sound a bit harsh but thats a totally stupid thought. I got about 371,740 pageviews last month and as i mentioned above i was even saved from getting banned.
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              • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
                Originally Posted by looking4adsense View Post

                My account get that much in 2 days, your traffic simply isn't big enough yet. For my traffic level, it took 6 years for my account to accumulate enough "infractions" to get banned. So with your traffic, I imagine it'd take about 100 years. That's why you haven't been banned yet.

                Also the other factor is if you get the traffic from a single huge authority site, or in my case from hundreds of sites. The risk of getting banned is much lower if the traffic is from a single huge authority site.
                Oh really !!! am i poor guy at traffic but you are a poor guy at thinking admit it

                Just one site and you will never speak about traffic again

                way2sms.com

                this site gets about 2M+ pageviews per day and they also runs on adsense and they never got banned.
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                • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
                  um yes that's why I added that the other factor is if you get your traffic from a single huge authority site or hundreds of sites. Google don't usually ban huge authority sites.

                  Originally Posted by pbbiet View Post

                  Oh really !!! am i poor guy at traffic but you are a poor guy at thinking admit it

                  Just one site and you will never speak about traffic again

                  way2sms.com

                  this site gets about 2M+ pageviews per day and they also runs on adsense and they never got banned.
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                  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
                    Originally Posted by looking4adsense View Post

                    um yes that's why I added that the other factor is if you get your traffic from a single huge authority site or hundreds of sites. Google don't usually ban huge authority sites.
                    I never had my Adsense account banned, but I did have a website banned when the Adsense payout reached $12,000 one month. IMHO, Google audits all accounts that get a payout over $10,000 due to reporting issues.
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                    • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
                      Yes, these infractions all adds up over the years. Once you reach a certainly level, then get click bombed a few times, google think you are too much risk and boom your account is perma banned.

                      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

                      I never had my Adsense account banned, but I did have a website banned when the Adsense payout reached $12,000 one month. IMHO, Google audits all accounts that get a payout over $10,000 due to reporting issues.
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                    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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                      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

                      I never had my Adsense account banned, but I did have a website banned when the Adsense payout reached $12,000 one month. IMHO, Google audits all accounts that get a payout over $10,000 due to reporting issues.
                      So, turn Adsense off when you hit $9,999.00, lol.
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              • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                Originally Posted by looking4adsense View Post

                My account get that much in 2 days, your traffic simply isn't big enough yet. For my traffic level, it took 6 years for my account to accumulate enough "infractions" to get permanently banned. So with your traffic, I imagine it'd take about 100 years. That's why you haven't been banned yet.

                Also the other factor is if you get the traffic from a single huge authority site, or in my case from hundreds of sites. The risk of getting banned is much lower if the traffic is from a single huge authority site.

                Though if you don't believe me, let me know what's your adsense publisher #. I guarantee I can get you banned within a month or so.
                You sound ridiculous. What does traffic volume have to do with infractions? Either you are within TOS or you are not. You guys with conspiracy theories crack me up.
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                • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
                  Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                  You sound ridiculous. What does traffic volume have to do with infractions? Either you are within TOS or you are not. You guys with conspiracy theories crack me up.
                  Not a conspiracy theory, it's simple statistics and probability. after you get that much traffic, there tends to be someone that hated your site for some reason, and will click bomb your adsense. After a few such incidents, you get banned, though google is less likely to ban you if all your traffic come from one big authority site, and more likely to ban you if your traffic is from hundreds of small sites. Again, If you don't believe me, give me your adsense publisher ID, I will guarantee you I can get you banned within a month or so.
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                  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
                    There are a few adsense publishers that have loads of MFA sites getting banned, here are a few;

                    Spencer Haws
                    Zac Johnson
                    Ghauer Chaudhry
                    Eric G
                    Mark Peeters

                    While I wouldn't nessesarily say having more traffic increases risk, I would say if you go about spamming sites to get competitive rankings then there is more risk. I've had a few hate mails and death threats over the years.

                    A few things these all had in common;

                    1, They blogged about making wenga with Adsense
                    2, They built ****ty MFA websites

                    Another thing is Adsense click bots. Google have just pissed of alot of people off with this update (me included). I'm sure these people would react by hiring a few quad core VPS, designing a simple crawling and scraping tool to find display network websites, then using suspect proxies to send bots out to click the **** out of the ads, it's bound to happen...
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                  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                    Originally Posted by looking4adsense View Post

                    Not a conspiracy theory, it's simple statistics and probability. after you get that much traffic, there tends to be someone that hated your site for some reason, and will click bomb your adsense. After a few such incidents, you get banned, though google is less likely to ban you if all your traffic come from one big authority site, and more likely to ban you if your traffic is from hundreds of small sites. Again, If you don't believe me, give me your adsense publisher ID, I will guarantee you I can get you banned within a month or so.
                    I can go find multiple large sites that use AdSense. Why are they not banned? I don't use AdSense anymore. I do much better with affiliate programs than I ever did with AdSense.

                    Your logic simply does not make sense.
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                    • Profile picture of the author paulgl
                      The warrior forum is ripe for this stuff.

                      Why? Because it seems the majority of people here,
                      first come to whine about adsense ban, penguin,
                      panda, monkey, who knows what.

                      There a millions of adsense users. Tons of people are
                      not getting banned. The big players here are not.
                      Nobody's worried who actually thinks.

                      Same with penguin crapola. You'd think half the world
                      dropped off. No, just a few sites compared to the BILLIONS
                      of sites google has indexed. And the fact is, google's index
                      is larger today than before panda/penguin.
                      So what does that tell you?

                      For every site that drops, a corresponding site climbs to
                      take its spot. People forget that.

                      They just read too much on the WF and think everybody
                      and their brother is getting banned, taking a hit, etc.

                      Nothing could be further from the truth.

                      Google has close to 60 billion sites. So, lets' do some math.
                      Let's say a million sites got hit. Well, that means that
                      99.99% stayed the same or moved up.

                      This does not take into account the new stuff online daily.

                      The overwhelming majority of websites owners do not have
                      to fear google, for adsense or anything else.

                      Oh, but the people that join the WF, that seems to be
                      a different story. They seem to always be part of the 0.01%.

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                    • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
                      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                      I can go find multiple large sites that use AdSense. Why are they not banned? I don't use AdSense anymore. I do much better with affiliate programs than I ever did with AdSense.

                      Your logic simply does not make sense.
                      That's why I said
                      "Unless you get all your traffic from a single huge authority site that google knows isn't gaming the system. "

                      "Also the other factor is if you get the traffic from a single huge authority site, or in my case from hundreds of sites. The risk of getting banned is much lower if the traffic is from a single huge authority site."

                      and in my most recent reply to you: "though google is less likely to ban you if all your traffic come from one big authority site"
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by looking4adsense View Post

            Simple, your traffic is not large enough. My adsense account traffic was 6M pageview per month before it was banned, what's yours?

            There's no "magic traffic number", but once you get to a large traffic amount, your risk of getting banned is increasingly high, and it increases with traffic. Unless you get all your traffic from a single huge authority site that google knows isn't gaming the system.
            C'mon man, you don't seriously think anyone will believe that Google banned you for having too much traffic, lol?

            At least make it sound realistic.

            BTW, junk traffic blast from porn sites (or whatever) doesn't count as good Adsense traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      People get banned because they don't have time for TOS.

      It's not complicated to keep an Adsense account.
      Yukon is right, I had seen people complaining over everything they do stupid things and blames google for ban. To be very honest i myself clicked some ads on my site intentionally as i was not earning anything that time and that time i was logged in to my Google account. But i never got banned even i got my check its because i clicked a very few ads and later when my site performed very well they dont ban me.

      Dont blame google for your own mistakes i was ready for ban after reading so many stupid threads here about adsense ban. They all said that they had not done anything wrong and still google banned them but when i got my check i knew they were playing the blame game.
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  • Profile picture of the author remodeler
    It could be that the "man on the street has no money"...so he hears about making easy riches online and sees everyone building adsense sites. After all, he hears that is easiest way to go. He/she then spews up sites, can't or doesn't want to be bothered by reading the TOS, and gets their acct banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author samdar
    I voted this as total rubbish. Just because conversion rate is less, Google need not necessarily ban accounts. There is a factor called competitive pricing in Adsense where the price per click will get drastically reduced if your site doesn't get enough conversion for the advertisers.

    I think this stand against adsense users is just a clean up job that Gogle might undertake. Every now and then Police gets alert and catch thieves who were enjoying their days for a long time.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeoKnightsInc
    ahhhh !!! sorry i am done
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Whether they ban accounts for reasons or not, their customer service is non exsistent. It's sad that they can't answer you with a real person. Just some dumb robot which always says the same thing.

    Heck...infolinks (even though I know they don't pay as much as adsense) has WONDERFUL customer service and actually will go out of their way to please a publisher.

    =-D

    -Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author TA
    when you get banned dont they tell you in the email why you are banned?
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  • Profile picture of the author nvs74191
    Guys, you have to spread the risk by creating micro niche adsense sites while not looiking like a MFA site. Let me explain.

    Have a site around a major market, say weight loss or hair loss or something else. Then build lots of sub domain sites around sub niches of your main market.

    What this does is to make your site (together with sub domain sites) look like a big authority site organized into sub domains for easy navigability and thematic structuring.

    With this approach, you give google everything it wants. (Of course, you have to follow the TOS to the letter too).

    Your adsense account stays healthy this way, and your site is built like about.com in a specific market niche.

    I stumbled on this when I was trying to figure out a way to take advantage of silo structuring and building thematically relevant sites.

    I keep updating these sites with autoblog content, and still find them ranking and earning adsense money. I do not spin or try to make the content unique in any way, except rewrite the articles totally if I feel like it. I think this really pisses google off.
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  • Profile picture of the author motorcyclestore
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    • Profile picture of the author heavysm
      I just reapplied for adsense after 3 years banned and they have re-accepted me. Not sure why they took me back. Glitch in the system? Have no idea, but looks like i have an old monetization method back =)
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        A tad off topic, but you brought it up.

        LOL!!! Nokia is the largest cellphone maker....BUT.....

        And listen up folks! They decided to make a friggin
        WINDOWS PHONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have got to be kidding!

        A windows phone? People HATE WINDOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!
        Just because the have it shoved down their throats
        on a PC in now way means they will swallow it in
        a phone. No friggin way.

        Apple is doing well because the iphone rocks. Google
        android is dong better because andorid rocks.

        MS windows? Give me a break!

        Just once, just once, I'd like to hear someone rant about
        how MS is just idiotic. They are a GREAT software company,
        but anything else they do is trash. Pure trash. And anyone
        who partners with them, like yahoo, nokia,...is just dumb.

        I suppose one could say google is doing so well because
        MS,(even facebook) are all doing relatively lousy as far as online
        income goes.

        Sometimes I think 99% of the warriors are spending 99% of their
        time doing searches for "make money online," instead of living
        in the real world.

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  • Profile picture of the author yumiko
    So many amateurs here! All giving rubbish advice. It pains me to read so many prediction that came out of your thoughts rather than having any actual facts at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author puvanahim
    I got some idea that good
    Thank you
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    Wow, my old thread came back. I still think I'm right.

    Some additional info... I started advertising on AdWords this month. You know what? The content network conversions (i.e. you AdSense guys) cost me twice as much as the search conversions did.

    Ouch!

    So yeah, putting my advertiser hat on for a moment, I have to say that Google is right to close down suspicious/poorly converting accounts. Sure, I don't know enough about AdWords to extrapolate my experience, but for me AdSense publishers are a waste of space.
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  • Profile picture of the author Daniel Thompson
    I think that there was a time when Adsense served as a good incentive for people to build sites around keywords that are valuable for Google, even if they weren't always of the highest quality. Now there are so many made for adsense sites in the profitable niches that there isn't any reason for Google to encourage more unless they are of very high quality.

    I also wouldn't be surprized if Google is limiting the supply of content ads to drive bids up and encourage greater use of search ads where they make much more money.
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