in 24 Hrs ~ Why I Love Amazon Over Adsense

by Ashera
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I have a network of around 40 or so sites, about 20 of them are strictly Amazon, 10 are Amazon/Adsense, and the other 10 are Adsense only.
#adsense #amazon #love
  • Profile picture of the author spunkz
    Thanks for the great inspiration! I totally agree with your assessment and reasoning why Amazon should be the primary focus of someone who is wanting to make serious bucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author GMT
    I think Amazon is great, I definitely plan on more sites focusing on it. I know many guys sell cheaper things on Amazon to have their volume number high enough that they get a higher percentage vs just selling expensive things like you are with the $300. Do you sell cheap things too or just stay 300+ range?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by GMT View Post

      I think Amazon is great, I definitely plan on more sites focusing on it. I know many guys sell cheaper things on Amazon to have their volume number high enough that they get a higher percentage vs just selling expensive things like you are with the $300. Do you sell cheap things too or just stay 300+ range?
      I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        Ashera....

        Congrats on your success!

        That 24 hour cookie alone makes it really exciting to check your stats every day....I would bet that more than a third of your sales come from unrelated products!

        In any event, as you know, the whole trick is to get your visitors to click on those links! Once they do, then the fun really begins for you!

        You should see better results by stripping your sites of the AdSense links and just focusing on Amazon....Visitors don't want to be bombarded with links!
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      • Profile picture of the author xTrav
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        How do you get traffic to your sites? Are any of them on google page one? Or are you getting traffic some other way? Also, what is the age of your sites? How long did it take to start earning this amount of money?
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        • Profile picture of the author hadsek
          Never had much luck with amazon. The reason is silly.If a user from Canada clicks from my US amazon account site,they either automatically switch them to canada site or offer them the option to switch.

          There goes my commission...

          I had a daily 70+ clickers switch country and i get screwed so i removed amazon widgets.

          It makes no sense that i signup for UK, Canada,or Australia accounts for the same associate program. They should synchronize their system and the affiliate be credited no matter what site they head to.

          I'd rather do commission junction where my lead is not lost and my commission discredited

          Xtrav:
          Yes, CJ is effective on highly focused blogs.
          D17, at least for the US, did not require a US bank account when I first set it up in 2010 (may be that's changed now)
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          • Profile picture of the author xTrav
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            Originally Posted by hadsek View Post

            Never had much luck with amazon. The reason is silly.If a user from Canada clicks from my US amazon account site,they either automatically switch them to canada site or offer them the option to switch.

            There goes my commission...

            I had a daily 70+ clickers switch country and i get screwed so i removed amazon widgets.

            It makes no sense that i signup for UK, Canada,or Australia accounts for the same associate program. They should synchronize their system and the affiliate be credited no matter what site they head to.

            I'd rather do commission junction where my lead is not lost and my commission discredited
            Is Commission Junction effective for you??
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          • Profile picture of the author Keith Coppuck
            I think that could be what has been happening to me? I have a few sites and tried Amazon on a few but in a prominent position and received a few clicks but no orders and no commissions. `i am based in the UK have signed up with Amazon.com (not .co.uk) and no commissions?
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            • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
              I've only just started experimenting with Adsense.

              My sites are generally Amazon only but I've decided to try a combination of both on some of the poor performers.
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            • Profile picture of the author Ashera
              Originally Posted by Keith Coppuck View Post

              I think that could be what has been happening to me? I have a few sites and tried Amazon on a few but in a prominent position and received a few clicks but no orders and no commissions. `i am based in the UK have signed up with Amazon.com (not .co.uk) and no commissions?
              Are you ranking on Google.com? I usually find that out of lets say, 50 Amazon clicks, I get between 2-6 sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author Silent0ne
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        This is a huge benefit of Amazon vs Adsense (cookies & indirect purchases), Thanks for sharing Ashera!
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        • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
          Ashera, I have a question about choosing your niche keywords. I've just drilled down to some niche categories in Amazon and checked the competition for these keywords. One is very promising, but the top 10 listings in Google are Amazon categories that match this keyword and various other retailers. Hardly any of these websites include the keyword in their domain, title, description etc. but they are all high profiles sites all aged over 10 years (although virtually no backlinks with the keyword in anchor text).

          I am guessing you are always up against this type of competition, but what makes you decide whether you are likely to get to the top 2 spots?

          Thanks.
          Jodie
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          • Profile picture of the author Ashera
            Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

            Ashera, I have a question about choosing your niche keywords. I've just drilled down to some niche categories in Amazon and checked the competition for these keywords. One is very promising, but the top 10 listings in Google are Amazon categories that match this keyword and various other retailers. Hardly any of these websites include the keyword in their domain, title, description etc. but they are all high profiles sites all aged over 10 years (although virtually no backlinks with the keyword in anchor text).

            I am guessing you are always up against this type of competition, but what makes you decide whether you are likely to get to the top 2 spots?

            Thanks.
            Jodie
            Jodie, my most profitable site has this in the top 5 listings all pr2-pr4 and aged a number of years:

            1. My site
            2. Amazon customer discussions: "my keyphrase"
            3. askville.amazon.com what is the "my keyphrase"
            4. Armstrong.com (huge site, has keyword in title and meta)
            5. Dirtdevil.com (keyphrase in title and meta)

            I personally don't ever try to rank for specific product keywords, as I've had little success with them. But keywords like "best x for y" "x reviews" "x for y". Even if the top 10 are all aged authority sites - if the BLP (back links to page) is weak then I go for it. Even if they have a decent amount of BLP, but their onsite SEO is terribly optimized for that keyword, I go for it anyways. I've been wrong on a couple occasions, and not been able to break page 2 , but it's rare and usually a mistake on my part. If you're comfortable enough to PM me the keyword I can tell you if I personally would take the time to go after it. I promise I won't steal it from you no matter how good it is.
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      • Profile picture of the author kwamster
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        If you don't mind me asking, how long does it usually take you to set up your amazon sites from start to finish and once they are set up, how long does it usually take before you start making money?

        Also, what do you think about clickbank and CPA offers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Campbell
    Count in another person here who tends to agree with you. In general in my experience Amazon has also outperformed Adsense.

    Keep in mind to test out the two against each other, as each site will be different with Adsense winning on some types of sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Jay Campbell View Post

      Count in another person here who tends to agree with you. In general in my experience Amazon has also outperformed Adsense.

      Keep in mind to test out the two against each other, as each site will be different with Adsense winning on some types of sites.
      I totally agree Jay- and that's why I do have those 10 sites that are strictly AdSense. But nowadays, I feel like it's not worth the effort for me to build sites based around it so all my domains in the last 6 months have been intentionally built to be Amazon sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Theoutpostwebs
        what is one of your sites i cannot seem to find one
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    • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
      I have had little success with Amazon but then again I don't own nearly as many websites as you do. How did you accumulate so many? Do you have your Amazon deposited directly into your bank account or do you receive monthly checks?
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  • Profile picture of the author seamate
    I still prefer Adsense to Amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author d17
    Hey, thanks for your post! I will now try Amazon -- never did.

    Offtopic: "If you want to be happy, be" is actually by Kozma Prutkov, which is a pen-name of Alexei Tolstoy & Co. That surname must have confused those amateurs at quotes sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    I never had much luck with amazon, but maybe it is time to re-evaluate and look into doing a few amazon sites. I have been looking for a new project to work on anyway. My question for you Ashera, if you are willing to share, what type of marketing methods do you use? Strictly trying to rank high on Google? Article Marketing?

    Benjamin
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Benjamin Ehinger View Post

      I never had much luck with amazon, but maybe it is time to re-evaluate and look into doing a few amazon sites. I have been looking for a new project to work on anyway. My question for you Ashera, if you are willing to share, what type of marketing methods do you use? Strictly trying to rank high on Google? Article Marketing?

      Benjamin
      Originally Posted by xTrav View Post

      How do you get traffic to your sites? Are any of them on google page one? Or are you getting traffic some other way? Also, what is the age of your sites? How long did it take to start earning this amount of money?
      90 percent of all my traffic to all my websites is via organic search from SEO I did myself on my sites, and the other 10 percent is from a few social bookmarks, youtube videos, and articles I have scattered about. The ages of my sites are all under 3 years old with some of them being as new as a week old. It usually takes anywhere from 1-3 months for me to be able to rank them properly. I usually hit the number 1 spot at around 3 months (I do pretty darn good keyword research if I do say so myself). I've been especially more cautious and slow on my newer sites in the last 6 months. In the beginning I took things a little fast since I was in a bit more of a rush to make a profit but now that I have a pretty steady stream of revenue I can afford to go slower.

      Not every site I ever made was a success, some were flops. But the flops are what taught me how to make the ones I have a success.
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  • Profile picture of the author d17
    @hadsek: "It makes no sense that i signup for UK, Canada,or Australia accounts"

    I don't think they even officially allow it. You have to have a bank account in that country, which is sort of hard to get. (Is this info out-of-date, people?)
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  • Profile picture of the author spoiledkid01
    Ashera ... Do you do review site for amazon or what?
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Amazon is wonderful, but for some niches, AdSense remains the best option in my opinion.

    With any site that receives highly targeted traffic to which some single group of products can be marketed effectively, I would definitely choose Amazon too.

    They already have such a great reputation, and such a huge range of products.

    Congratulations on your many sales. Hopefully this will encourage more people to take on AdSense.
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  • Profile picture of the author marc7
    I like Amazon over Adsense...Google is still shutting down Adsense accounts like crazy
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ray
      Originally Posted by marc7 View Post

      I like Amazon over Adsense...Google is still shutting down Adsense accounts like crazy
      This has always been my problem with AdSense... There is not accountability at Google, in regards to finding out 'why' they shut some people's accounts.

      I've never had a problem with my account, and don't personally know anyone who has lost their AdSense account, but the stories are pretty common.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize INTL
    Very useful thread, thank you for that. I've never touched Amazon but with this assessment it might be worth a look !
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  • Profile picture of the author d17
    Ashera, is there a difference (in money) between some straight up Amazon banners and Omikase? Which do you use?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by d17 View Post

      Ashera, is there a difference (in money) between some straight up Amazon banners and Omikase? Which do you use?
      I never use Omakase. The majority of my sites are niche sites covering a specific category of products. So I will have review for various products in said category and use "Product In A Post" free plugin (with some minor css changes to make it do what I like).

      I then build a custom Carousel Widget by hand featuring all the said products I review on the site. It's kind of a pain, because every time I write a new review I have to add it- but I think it helps get me more Amazon clicks rather than using Omakse where it sometimes puts random garbage in there.

      I also never use general Amazon banners as I feel like they convert terribly.
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      • Profile picture of the author Certitude
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I also never use general Amazon banners as I feel like they convert terribly.
        Ain't that the truth!

        I've done a little from Amazon in the past but nothing like what you're earning. I may just take another look at it after reading your post!
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        • Profile picture of the author airallineed
          Very informative thread.
          I have to work on my conversion rate too
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    Do you recommend any course that has helped you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by spoiledkid01 View Post

      Do you recommend any course that has helped you?
      I've never taken any course personally. I've picked up a few things here and there on this forum and just browsing Google, but I've mainly learnt from trial and error and my bachelors in Communication Studies came in handy quite a few times as I learnt a lot about how to communicate effectively and translated it into the online world. I also worked in the commercial insurance industry before switching to full time internet marketing- so basically taken all my knowledge from my previous industries and skill-set and converted it into the online world.

      Originally Posted by pukimama View Post

      Hi Ashera,
      First of all Congrats to your success with Amazon.. I am still learning..
      Do you write all product reviews yourself , outsource or some automation tools (is product in a post you mentioned similar to wpzonbuilder ? )..

      Lastly, would like to ask what is your preferred theme in building your Amazon sites ?

      Thanks for sharing the good tips with us !
      Pukimama
      Thanks . Initially I wrote all my reviews- but as I've gained a steady income I've outsourced them. I actually use my friends little brother - he's 20 years old and I've been teaching him about SEO and in exchange he writes me the majority of my reviews for a reasonable price.

      Ever since the beginning I've used WP Weaver theme - there's a free version in the WordPress theme directory - since then I've moved on to the pro (though its really not necessary I just bought it to support it cause I love it so much). Note there is two WP Weaver's , I use the older one (Weaver I) since they got rid of the two column posts on home page feature in the latest one, and my two column homepage sites convert higher than the single ones. Weaver has like 12 child themes built in and its very versatile. As I mentioned above I combine it with the Amazon Product in a Post (free plugin) and use some basic css to manipulate it to work how I like it.
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Ever since the beginning I've used WP Weaver theme - there's a free version in the WordPress theme directory - since then I've moved on to the pro (though its really not necessary I just bought it to support it cause I love it so much). Note there is two WP Weaver's , I use the older one (Weaver I) since they got rid of the two column posts on home page feature in the latest one, and my two column homepage sites convert higher than the single ones. Weaver has like 12 child themes built in and its very versatile. As I mentioned above I combine it with the Amazon Product in a Post (free plugin) and use some basic css to manipulate it to work how I like it.
        Ashera,

        I'm just playing around with this theme, but I don't see the 2 column option. Where is that configured?

        Thanks,
        Aaron
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  • Profile picture of the author pukimama
    Hi Ashera,
    First of all Congrats to your success with Amazon.. I am still learning..
    Do you write all product reviews yourself , outsource or some automation tools (is product in a post you mentioned similar to wpzonbuilder ? )..

    Lastly, would like to ask what is your preferred theme in building your Amazon sites ?

    Thanks for sharing the good tips with us !
    Pukimama
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshN
    How do you address the issue with users from different countries?

    After some research only about 20% of the people buying my product are in the US.
    another 20 in the uk and another 20% in germany..


    I dont know how to find affiliates to cover my bases

    Glad to hear people are making money with amazon and CJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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    I hope that Google update doesn't lower your websites! Congrats!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Originally Posted by Success With Dany View Post

    I hope that Google update doesn't lower your websites! Congrats!
    Bit of a pessimistic random comment, but thanks. I actually noticed improvements or stability almost across the board, except for 5 of my Adsense sites which noticed a slight drop. I have multiple hosts and don't do the same backlinking method on more than 4 sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      Bit of a pessimistic random comment, but thanks. I actually noticed improvements or stability almost across the board, except for 5 of my Adsense sites which noticed a slight drop. I have multiple hosts and don't do the same backlinking method on more than 4 sites.
      You reassure me because I was about to start a new run of niche sites. I thought the G-update would've made my IM efforts worthless.
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    Hey pal,

    congrats on the success...one question i would like to ask. Is the traffic using SEO or paid methods?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by owenlee View Post

      Hey pal,

      congrats on the success...one question i would like to ask. Is the traffic using SEO or paid methods?

      Thanks
      Hi Owen, thanks! I mentioned above, 90 percent is organic SEO traffic and the other 10 percent is from videos, articles, and social bookmarks.

      I'm working on diversifying my traffic network- as I don't want to have to rely solely on Google to bring in traffic.

      I actually tried setting up an AdWords campaign once on a site- and was rejected for being too affiliateish.
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      • Profile picture of the author SlfMastery
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Hi Owen, thanks! I mentioned above, 90 percent is organic SEO traffic and the other 10 percent is from videos, articles, and social bookmarks.

        I'm working on diversifying my traffic network- as I don't want to have to rely solely on Google to bring in traffic.

        I actually tried setting up an AdWords campaign once on a site- and was rejected for being too affiliateish.
        You're a wise man "Ashera!" I thought about diversifying revenue types, but not really diversifying traffic types. One Google slap and there goes your income.

        So, if Adwords turned you down, what other paid traffic have you found success with? Thanks for the diversify traffic tip!

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      Originally Posted by owenlee View Post

      Hey pal,

      congrats on the success...one question i would like to ask. Is the traffic using SEO or paid methods?

      Thanks
      He said it. SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    How many sales did you get today? I got a grand total of 1 sale, the worst day so far this year. Damn SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      How many sales did you get today? I got a grand total of 1 sale, the worst day so far this year. Damn SEO.
      Did OK yesterday - was around $300. On days and off days
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      • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Did OK yesterday - was around $300. On days and off days
        Hey,

        Just out of interest, how have you been doing with all the Google algo updates??

        Do you monitor your rank on a keyword level? If so have you seen anything major when the very public Google hammer has been dropped??

        One more quick question, how do you mainly link out to amazon, is it via in content links and how many links (affiliate) on average do you have per page?

        (was that 2 questions?? lol)

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Andy Hart View Post

          Hey,

          Just out of interest, how have you been doing with all the Google algo updates??

          Do you monitor your rank on a keyword level? If so have you seen anything major when the very public Google hammer has been dropped??

          One more quick question, how do you mainly link out to amazon, is it via in content links and how many links (affiliate) on average do you have per page?

          (was that 2 questions?? lol)

          Thanks
          Andy
          Hey Andy, I noticed no ill effects on my Amazon sites and even saw a few gains, but did see a slight decrease on a few of my AdSense sites. I do monitor by keywords, I use SerpBook and track all my keywords with over 1k searches.

          On the homepage I have 1 per post shown - it's done via a "buy now" button. On the post page themselves I have the buy now button as well as a link at the bottom that says "click here to learn more" or "click here to buy now" or something similar. I know a lot of people have had issues with directly linking to Amazon, especially from the homepage, but I've never experienced them.

          These are sample of my ranking changes in the past week:

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          • Profile picture of the author richinca
            Congratulations!

            How many posts on the homepage and how many posts per site on average?

            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Hey Andy, I noticed no ill effects on my Amazon sites and even saw a few gains, but did see a slight decrease on a few of my AdSense sites. I do monitor by keywords, I use SerpBook and track all my keywords with over 1k searches.

            On the homepage I have 1 per post shown - it's done via a "buy now" button. On the post page themselves I have the buy now button as well as a link at the bottom that says "click here to learn more" or "click here to buy now" or something similar. I know a lot of people have had issues with directly linking to Amazon, especially from the homepage, but I've never experienced them.

            These are sample of my ranking changes in the past week:

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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    It would be interesting to know, what is your main backlinking strategy and did you alter it since Big G recently came down on automated backlinking?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
    Excellent job! My question is: do you also have keyword based informational articles on the site without affiliate links? For purposes of creating an audience and driving search engine traffic? If so, what percentage of total posts are the informational articles and do you outsource them?

    Congrats on the success!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      It would be interesting to know, what is your main backlinking strategy and did you alter it since Big G recently came down on automated backlinking?
      For all my sites I use my own private blog network, some manual blog commenting, some quality social bookmarks, some quality wikis, and have about 15-30 quality web 2.0's. I use all my junk backlinks to link back to those backlinks.


      Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

      Excellent job! My question is: do you also have keyword based informational articles on the site without affiliate links? For purposes of creating an audience and driving search engine traffic? If so, what percentage of total posts are the informational articles and do you outsource them?

      Congrats on the success!
      I personally only have 1 informational article on each site. I use the Weaver free Wordpress theme and stick that on a page and sticky it on the top. I also do a ton of interpage linking which I think really decreases my bounce rate. None of my Amazon sites have over a 45 percent bounce rate which I am proud of. Average time on all sites together, is probably something about 4 minutes.

      Originally Posted by richinca View Post

      Congratulations!

      How many posts on the homepage and how many posts per site on average?
      I have between 4-8 posts on homepage and have between 8-30 product reviews on each site.


      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      Well, i really don't know how you research and create your ad sense site.

      For me, i really can not say which is the best because it all depends on your keywords, site layout e.t.c

      I make more money from ad sense than Amazon maybe because am new to Amazon.

      One of my adsense site generate about $125 daily, approximately $3, 750 monthly, that is just one site.
      I research them in almost the same way I research my Amazon sites. Find a low competition keyword (but in this case instead of looking for OCI I look for CPC). I've just never had tons of huge success with them. It might be because rarely do I focus on keywords with over 4k exact searches - or maybe I just am better at doing product sites than basic "How to" and "informational" sites - either way, congrats on your success and stick to what works for you.
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        Thanks again. How long are your reviews (words)? Images? Videos? Other?
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          Originally Posted by richinca View Post

          Thanks again. How long are your reviews (words)? Images? Videos? Other?
          Reviews are between 400-800 words. On some products it's hard to write more than 400 on something so trivial. I use images on every post (with a jquery plugin) and will occasionally link to a YouTube video as long as it doesn't have any affiliate links in it.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        For all my sites I use my own private blog network, some manual blog commenting, some quality social bookmarks, some quality wikis, and have about 15-30 quality web 2.0's. I use all my junk backlinks to link back to those backlinks.
        When you submit to web 2.0 sites does the content have to be unique for each site or does that only apply for the biggest ones such as Squidoo and Hubpages?

        Also, do you submit to 15-30 web 2.0's per product you are promoting or is that for the entire site?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          When you submit to web 2.0 sites does the content have to be unique for each site or does that only apply for the biggest ones such as Squidoo and Hubpages?

          Also, do you submit to 15-30 web 2.0's per product you are promoting or is that for the entire site?

          I only use unique content on my Web 2.0s that point directly to my money site and they are all made by hand. Each have at least two articles - granted there not the most amazing things in the world but they are written by a native english speaker. Any spun content I do use or article networks point to my tier 1 links, never to my money site. I do 15-30 total per site, not per product. It's really my private blog network that I've built up that allows me to rank my sites so easily. I have at least 10 pr2+ domains for each of the 5 niches I focus on.
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          • Profile picture of the author rajat2k2k
            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            I only use unique content on my Web 2.0s that point directly to my money site and they are all made by hand. Each have at least two articles - granted there not the most amazing things in the world but they are written by a native english speaker. Any spun content I do use or article networks point to my tier 1 links, never to my money site. I do 15-30 total per site, not per product. It's really my private blog network that I've built up that allows me to rank my sites so easily. I have at least 10 pr2+ domains for each of the 5 niches I focus on.
            Ashera,


            Thanks for your help.

            What are tier 1 links ?

            Let's say you have a site about camera reviews and have all the different camera reviews. Does your hubpages/squidoo topics are 'which camer to buy?' type of posts or is itself a review of a specific camera?
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            • Profile picture of the author Ashera
              Originally Posted by rajat2k2k View Post

              Ashera,


              Thanks for your help.

              What are tier 1 links ?

              Let's say you have a site about camera reviews and have all the different camera reviews. Does your hubpages/squidoo topics are 'which camer to buy?' type of posts or is itself a review of a specific camera?
              Tier 1 links are the links that go directly to money site, Tier 2 links go to Tier 1.

              My Web 2.0 topics would cover different concepts about cameras - I would cover things like the history of Canon Camera, history of Nikon, evolution of cameras, history of cameras themselves, and stuff like that.
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              • Profile picture of the author BTbuzz
                Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

                Tier 1 links are the links that go directly to money site, Tier 2 links go to Tier 1.

                My Web 2.0 topics would cover different concepts about cameras - I would cover things like the history of Canon Camera, history of Nikon, evolution of cameras, history of cameras themselves, and stuff like that.
                Great info, will be saving this thread on more study on it.
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                • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
                  great work Ashera and thank you for being so open with sharing information

                  I have 2 newbie type questions

                  1. why do you have so many hosting accounts? you are not doing anything black hat - why not have everything on one host, you'll save a lot of cash and organisational work

                  2. would you only recommend amazon affiliate marketing to people residing in the usa because amazon.com is by far the biggest market. If a spanish or german or english or irish person wanted to do amazon affiliate marketing am i correct in saying they would be restricted to amazon.de or amazon.es or amazon.co.uk? Or is it possible for them to direct their traffic to the amazon.com site too even if they are not a resident in the US?
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Like we can make a lot more using amazon. Sad sense is really grim. They pay very little for each like - sometimes less than a penny. Also, we cannot encourage our consumers. In contrast, we can incentivize people to buy from amazing amazon.
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    I also do better with Amazon than AdSense usually. Although I haven't recently been doing as well as you (I've had some huge pay days in the past though... )
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  • Profile picture of the author poppa5502
    How crazy you are to talk about this because I was thinking about ditching adsense all together. I just don't know what it is but i think Google is starting to slip...so I'm right be hide you bro...you made a good choice

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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Well, i really don't know how you research and create your ad sense site.

    For me, i really can not say which is the best because it all depends on your keywords, site layout e.t.c

    I make more money from ad sense than Amazon maybe because am new to Amazon.

    One of my adsense site generate about $125 daily, approximately $3, 750 monthly, that is just one site.
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  • Profile picture of the author CodeBotics
    How do you run so many sites simultaneously? Do you not find yourself getting bogged down by everything? I'm assuming all your sites need updating regularly?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by CodeBotics View Post

      How do you run so many sites simultaneously? Do you not find yourself getting bogged down by everything? I'm assuming all your sites need updating regularly?
      Organization is key - I've gotten it to the point where I end up working about 15 -20 hours a week. Once my sites are ranking I add about 1 review every 2-4 weeks, and sprinkle a few quality back-links here and there. I also have a close friend who has his own blog network as well so we sometimes will help each other out as long as the niche is similar, because I trust him and know the pride he takes in his network. I also use ManageWP which helps everything stay streamlined.
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      • Profile picture of the author bkgroup
        Amazone is great but the thing is people must purchase something, While adsense is PPC based ad program.
        I love adsense rather than amazon but after seeing your post, I think I should love both because both of them are helping us to earn money.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Ashera, not bad. You do what works. Ditch one,
        go for the other. I myself do both. Your post
        certainly should certainly get some people off
        their butts.

        I do pretty good with amazon on squidoo. You may want to
        try that.

        But here is some reality for others. Many people that are
        not successful with adsense try and do bad things.
        You can't do that with amazon. That is, you
        need traffic. Targeted traffic. That takes hard
        work. And you cannot fake a sale. If you go into
        amazon with some get-rich-adsense mentality, you
        will fail.

        And this thread is not about google. Or at least it should not
        be. People need to know that amazon and google are
        partners in more ways than one, from kindle to
        blogspot, and all points in between.

        I can't wait for the
        Amazon is a monopoly and they are killing me! threads.

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Ashera, not bad. You do what works. Ditch one,
          go for the other. I myself do both. Your post
          certainly should certainly get some people off
          their butts.

          I do pretty good with amazon on squidoo. You may want to
          try that.

          But here is some reality for others. Many people that are
          not successful with adsense try and do bad things.
          You can't do that with amazon. That is, you
          need traffic. Targeted traffic. That takes hard
          work. And you cannot fake a sale. If you go into
          amazon with some get-rich-adsense mentality, you
          will fail.

          And this thread is not about google. Or at least it should not
          be. People need to know that amazon and google are
          partners in more ways than one, from kindle to
          blogspot, and all points in between.

          I can't wait for the
          Amazon is a monopoly and they are killing me! threads.

          Paul
          Thanks Paul - that comment is appreciated from you. I've never really tried to monetize my Squidoo's and used them more for back linking - but I do need to broaden my horizons because I know I rely way too much on Google for my traffic and revenue and that's a ripe setup for failure.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Very usefull thread, personally I'm a total noob with Amazon. I once purchased freshstorebuilder but it's so spammy that it just can't rank.

            Couple questions:
            • How do you present the Amazon products at your site?
            • How many products/links per page?
            • Do you copy reviews from Amazon to your site?
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      • Profile picture of the author The Expert
        How you make a site centered around the keyword "Best Chicago Mechanics" work on Amazon? I don't know but I think it would work for Adsense in the #1 position.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

          How you make a site centered around the keyword "Best Chicago Mechanics" work on Amazon? I don't know but I think it would work for Adsense in the #1 position.
          Yeah that doesn't work and it doesn't work for a lot of other keywords as well, you really need to have some practise experience with Amazon to know what niches to target. I had a furniture site that got 30 visits a day, the site made $2/month. I mean worse then that ain't possible I guess. Furniture is something people like to touch before buying I would assume, but even with small accessories that ranked decently I hardly got any sales, while those are the things I expected people "would" buy, but still nothing. Perhaps people just like to look what's available before they start shopping in that niche or just to compare prices, I don't know.

          Another thing I dont like about Amazon, but thats more related to some crappy software called "freshstorebuilder" is that before people check-out Amazon asks them if they want to keep looking around first and then people get into thinking mode and before you know the 24hr cookie is gone. The software I used used some shopping cart system where they got transferred directly from my site to the Amazon check out page. Worse construction ever I admit.
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Another thing I dont like about Amazon, but thats more related to some crappy software called "freshstorebuilder" is that before people check-out Amazon asks them if they want to keep looking around first and then people get into thinking mode and before you know the 24hr cookie is gone. The software I used used some shopping cart system where they got transferred directly from my site to the Amazon check out page. Worse construction ever I admit.
            On Amazon's help section it mentions that you can add links to your site which add the item directly to the customers shopping cart using Add-to-cart buttons so the cookies will be 90 days.

            Have you ever used these links and did you experience a better conversion rate than using standard links? It says they typically convert significantly than links to product detail pages.
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              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              On Amazon's help section it mentions that you can add links to your site which add the item directly to the customers shopping cart using Add-to-cart buttons so the cookies will be 90 days.

              Have you ever used these links and did you experience a better conversion rate than using standard links? It says they typically convert significantly than links to product detail pages.
              First time I heard this, thanks for the tip. I will look into this soon!
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            • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              On Amazon's help section it mentions that you can add links to your site which add the item directly to the customers shopping cart using Add-to-cart buttons so the cookies will be 90 days.

              Have you ever used these links and did you experience a better conversion rate than using standard links? It says they typically convert significantly than links to product detail pages.
              Is this something we have to hard code on each post or is there some sort of plugin that will help with this?

              wolfmmiii,

              How are you achieving this sort of thing on your sites whre when you click on the image or buy now it takes them to their shopping cart to add instead of the product page?
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        Congrats on your success
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      • Profile picture of the author Theoutpostwebs
        ashera do you work alone?between work and whatver i find it very difficult to control one site let alone ten how do you do it? you seem very intellegent in this field. let me know thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author boomerevents
        I'm new to this. Would you mind providing one or more links to one of your Amazon sites so I can get a real world example of what you do? I think I want to apply your techniques to some of my current websites.

        Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
        Well done, those are great earning from your sites. I have reasonable success the UK program and don't use Adsense, as I feel it offers a distraction to visitors and the returns are poor. I would much rather people that arrive on any of my pages focus on the said product rather that look at related ads.

        Mark
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by shmeeko69 View Post

          Well done, those are great earning from your sites. I have reasonable success the UK program and don't use Adsense, as I feel it offers a distraction to visitors and the returns are poor. I would much rather people that arrive on any of my pages focus on the said product rather that look at related ads.

          Mark
          I agree with this completely. I'm killing it with Amazon and I'm certain that adding distractions would only reduce affiliate link click-throughs.

          Since my strategy focuses on intercepting buyers who have their wallets out (late in the buying cycle), I don't want to do anything to interrupt their purchase decision.
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          • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            Since my strategy focuses on intercepting buyers who have their wallets out (late in the buying cycle), I don't want to do anything to interrupt their purchase decision.
            Hey Wolf,

            I was just wondering what you (and other Amazon affiliates) are thinking about the new Google Shopping which will dominate SERPs. I am guessing these results will only be affected for buying keywords like 'product x', 'buy product x' and 'product x review' for example. Will you be targeting other keywords instead or will you simply create more sites to account for the loss in traffic? Or are you not worried at all?
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  • Profile picture of the author eman1
    Great post! Thanks for the inspiration! I totally agree with you. Amazon should be the primary focus of anyone who wants to make serious money as a affiliate marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    Really interesting, I think I need to give this a go and see how it works.
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    How about Comission Junction? Way higher comissions.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    How did you manage to fair so well after this Penguin update? My traffic has dropped 60-70% and I haven't done anything like keyword stuffing. I only used SEOPressor.

    Do you include your targetted keyword in the header tags and follow the usual on-page SEO advice such as keyword in the first sentence, etc..
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  • Congos buddy.I love reading success stories. In your private blog network,what kind of sites(blogger,wordpress,insanejournal) you use.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by captainjacksparrow View Post

      Congos buddy.I love reading success stories. In your private blog network,what kind of sites(blogger,wordpress,insanejournal) you use.
      Private blog network is a mix of html sites and WordPress sites to try to avoid a footprint as much as possible. Also I make sure to have at least 3 posts on each of them with no outbound links at all, and to link to an authority site in every post that I do have links.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Private blog network is a mix of html sites and WordPress sites to try to avoid a footprint as much as possible. Also I make sure to have at least 3 posts on each of them with no outbound links at all, and to link to an authority site in every post that I do have links.
        Ashera, thanks for sharing your story. Very motivational! I too have been maintaining Amazon sites for the last 2-3 years, and have also built up a blog network off HTML, Wordress and a few other platforms, spread across 3 hosts and 3 countries. But I am nowhere near as dedicated as you! There is certainly room for improvement here.

        Questions. Do you link to any of your own sites from within posts, or do you only link from sidebar/blogroll type links? And how many posts on average would you say you have on your tier 1 and tier 2 sites?

        Thanks again for taking the time to answer everyone's questions, mine included.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

          Ashera, thanks for sharing your story. Very motivational! I too have been maintaining Amazon sites for the last 2-3 years, and have also built up a blog network off HTML, Wordress and a few other platforms, spread across 3 hosts and 3 countries. But I am nowhere near as dedicated as you! There is certainly room for improvement here.

          Questions. Do you link to any of your own sites from within posts, or do you only link from sidebar/blogroll type links? And how many posts on average would you say you have on your tier 1 and tier 2 sites?

          Thanks again for taking the time to answer everyone's questions, mine included.
          No problem! I am glad you find the info helpful. I do the occasional blogroll link but tend to stay away from them most of the time. All my links are contextual - meaning they are within the paragraph. I will occasionally do a blogroll link but if I do it will never be my primary anchor text. On my Tier 1 Web 2.0's I have between 2 and 4 articles and on my Tier 2's I do 1-2. Each of my blog network sites have at least 5 posts and I make sure to link to different sites on all of them so its not obvious to Google that 50 websites are all linking to the same 50 pages.

          Hope this answers your question!
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  • Profile picture of the author faysal969
    I definitely believe that success in Affiliate or Adsense mostly depends on the quality of traffic. If you select such keywords which are used to find information then you will get success through Adsense. On the other hand only using buying keywords for your site optimization you will get affiliate sales. So keyword selection is more important for getting success in making money online. By the way I also believe Amazon is more profitable than adsens.
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  • Profile picture of the author twentytwo
    Wow this thread is really good and filled with lots of information! *thanx* Ashera.
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  • Profile picture of the author spen
    Hi, Ashera
    thanks for your story.
    I have a question.
    What Criteria Do you Use to select a niche?

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by spen View Post

      Hi, Ashera
      thanks for your story.
      I have a question.
      What Criteria Do you Use to select a niche?

      thanks
      Hi Spen,

      I'm glad you found it helpful. My two most important aspects when finding a niche are A. low organic SEO competition and B. high online commercial intent.

      Hope this helps
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      • Profile picture of the author spen
        Do you think about backlinks?

        thanks

        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Hi Spen,

        I'm glad you found it helpful. My two most important aspects when finding a niche are A. low organic SEO competition and B. high online commercial intent.

        Hope this helps
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by spen View Post

          Do you think about backlinks?

          thanks
          You mean competing pages backlinks? Yes I most definitely analyze this before selecting a keyword - I measure the top 8 or so onsite SEO as well as their back link profile. Backlink numbers mean absolutely nothing to me, since you can have thousands and thousands of backlinks but they can all be of low quality. Since I target keywords with under 4k searches mainly - ending up at number 5 doesn't do me much good. I'm only REALLY happy and making money if I'm in the first or second spot.
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          • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Since I target keywords with under 4k searches mainly - ending up at number 5 doesn't do me much good.
            What is the minimum number of searches you'll go? By 4K I assume you mean per month, so would you go less than 1k?
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            • Profile picture of the author Ashera
              Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

              What is the minimum number of searches you'll go? By 4K I assume you mean per month, so would you go less than 1k?
              I'll never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches per month (since I target Amazon.com) - and if the search is less than 2k per month I won't do it unless I'm targeting more than 2 keywords which are 1k or more each. Personally, it's just not worth all the trouble unless theres a decent search volume.
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      • Profile picture of the author GerryLee
        Ashera, thanks for the thread...good stuff!
        Back on page 2, you mentioned low organic SEO and high commercial intent as your top criteria for new niche opportunities. Could you expand on each of those a bit more...maybe define them a little better for us Newba?
        Thanks, gr
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        • Profile picture of the author LKR
          This is interesting. I've dabbled with Amazon in the past but nothing really serious.

          Do you think Amazon would work well with content sites, too, as opposed to just review sites?
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        • Profile picture of the author StoneTownFM
          Originally Posted by GerryLee View Post

          Ashera, thanks for the thread...good stuff!
          Back on page 2, you mentioned low organic SEO and high commercial intent as your top criteria for new niche opportunities. Could you expand on each of those a bit more...maybe define them a little better for us Newba?
          Thanks, gr
          I'm not him but he probably meant what everybody is looking for: a niche that doesn't have many competitors but can be monetized very well.

          Examples of high commercial intent niches include, for example, all Amazon categories whose products cost +$100. If you target these items (= write reviews & recommendations) to people who are ready to buy them, that's what I'd call high commercial intent. But there's lots of competition about many of those products, so one must choose theirs carefully.

          If you know something about a +$100 Amazon category, pick low-competition products and write about them. It's hard NOT to make money that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author purplecone
    I am ready to take Adsense off my sites, too. Amazon does better for me, though I don't get close to your daily earnings. Still working on it.

    What tool do you use to determine OCI?

    Thank you for sharing!

    Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by purplecone View Post

      I am ready to take Adsense off my sites, too. Amazon does better for me, though I don't get close to your daily earnings. Still working on it.

      What tool do you use to determine OCI?

      Thank you for sharing!

      Linda
      I use Ultimate Niche Finder to for my initial OCI evaluation but also try to take a 3rd party stance and think about "if I'm searching for this term, am I looking to buy something or am I looking strictly for information?"

      A strong middle ground always works as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author zelgly2
    Thanks you for sharing all the information with us and congratulation! I should also concentrate on amazon and should write all the reviews myself. I wish to earn more from amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Simond
    According to me Amazon is the best. I read some review already.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gertude32Wass
    Thanks for the great inspiration! I totally agree with your assessment and reasoning why Amazon should be the primary focus of someone who is wanting to make serious bucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarvyDery
    Amazon is the best choice if you want to make some serious money online. Adsense needs more clicks and some keywords don't really pat at all. the highest paying keywords is also very difficult to rank. Which means no traffic, no money. Amazon rocks!
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  • Profile picture of the author derprinz
    For me, it's different
    i tried amazon, but people don't buy
    they just click so adsense was better for me
    All that was before the google update
    because now, i don't receive visitors anymore since my site is nolonger on page 1
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  • Profile picture of the author ketset
    I have to say that Adsense was better for me than for Amazon, Adsense like others had said is easy to implement and gain from so I have stuck with Adsense all the way and actually make more with Adsense on my Amazon sites?!
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    • Profile picture of the author stevo235
      With my first mfa site I am having very little success with amazon 1 sale in 67 clicks. Do you find that more expensive products convert at a lower rate because all my products are over $200 dollars. Also in an unrelated question does traffic affect your cost per click, because when I checked the contextual targeting tool for my keywords there all over a dollar and quite a few are over $2.00 yet my adsense clicks have been averaging around 25 cents. Yesterday I got my first decent click at almost a dollar incidentally my traffic has increased as a result of hitting page #1 for my main targeted keyword. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by stevo235 View Post

        With my first mfa site I am having very little success with amazon 1 sale in 67 clicks. Do you find that more expensive products convert at a lower rate because all my products are over $200 dollars. Also in an unrelated question does traffic affect your cost per click, because when I checked the contextual targeting tool for my keywords there all over a dollar and quite a few are over $2.00 yet my adsense clicks have been averaging around 25 cents. Yesterday I got my first decent click at almost a dollar incidentally my traffic has increased as a result of hitting page #1 for my main targeted keyword. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
        I don't think cheaper products convert any better than $200+ products, but that's just my experience.
        I sell more $300 and $400 vacuum cleaners than $50-$100 ones, and I have an equal share of both.

        I know that AdSense doesn't pay you the CPC that the advertiser pays since they take a cut. It also all depends on what ads they show and people click. I don't know a ton about AdSense though.


        Originally Posted by ddwebx View Post

        I'd really like to start promoting some Amazon products, as I haven't been earning so good with Adsense. What kind of keywords would you usually go for ? I'm researching on a real product, and I can see many brand names I could easily outrank, around 3 to be exact, each one with upto 10k exact monthly searches.

        Would you create an authority site for this and try to rank for those 3 brand names?
        I personally never target brand names as keywords - if anything you're bounce rate will be through the roof.


        Originally Posted by kthor View Post

        Ashera - Thanks for this info, great stuff and very useful
        question when using Ultimate Niche Finder, do you target Hard, medium or easy KW? or combo's of all three?
        I target easy and medium keywords. Never hard - the effort necessary to rank for those aren't worth it for a keyword with less than 5k searches, IMO.
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    I'd really like to start promoting some Amazon products, as I haven't been earning so good with Adsense. What kind of keywords would you usually go for ? I'm researching on a real product, and I can see many brand names I could easily outrank, around 3 to be exact, each one with upto 10k exact monthly searches.

    Would you create an authority site for this and try to rank for those 3 brand names?
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    Ashera - Thanks for this info, great stuff and very useful
    question when using Ultimate Niche Finder, do you target Hard, medium or easy KW? or combo's of all three?
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  • Profile picture of the author ktonline
    I have success with both adsense and amazon but amazon is far better. Some niches I use adsense because of low commision on amazon and I end up making more with adsense. But overall I still like amazon over adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author satrap
    Congrats on your success ashera.
    I think it really depends on your niche. Amazon won't work for everybody and in every niche, just like Adsense won't work for everybody and every niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

    I'll never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches per month (since I target Amazon.com) - and if the search is less than 2k per month I won't do it unless I'm targeting more than 2 keywords which are 1k or more each. Personally, it's just not worth all the trouble unless theres a decent search volume.
    When you say you never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches, is that for the general term for the product i.e. "Panasonic Cordless Drill" and not including the specific model number in the keyword?

    Also, when you add a review, how many keywords do you target? Do you just focus on one keyword and hope to get traffic from other long tail keyword phrases that are throughout the review or do you target multiple keywords and build anchor text backlinks to them.
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      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      When you say you never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches, is that for the general term for the product i.e. "Panasonic Cordless Drill" and not including the specific model number in the keyword?

      Also, when you add a review, how many keywords do you target? Do you just focus on one keyword and hope to get traffic from other long tail keyword phrases that are throughout the review or do you target multiple keywords and build anchor text backlinks to them.
      Some sites the main focus is one keyword, while others are like 2 or 5 of 1k each.

      I never attempt to rank for the actual model number, as I've had low success with it. I always find that I rank for multiple long tail keywords without even trying.
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      • Profile picture of the author gohardorgohome
        Great post Ashera!

        If you don't mind I have a few questions:

        1. Do you no follow your aff links (does it matter?)?
        2. Are you primarily backlinking the home page or your inner pages equally?
        3. What kind of anchor text variation do you use in your link building?

        Thanks again!
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by gohardorgohome View Post

          Great post Ashera!

          If you don't mind I have a few questions:

          1. Do you no follow your aff links (does it matter?)?
          2. Are you primarily backlinking the home page or your inner pages equally?
          3. What kind of anchor text variation do you use in your link building?

          Thanks again!
          Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful! I should really compile all the info I've posted here and release as a PDF.

          1. I don't, though it might be a good idea. Might hire a VA to do that to all my sites eventually. It's probably proper.

          2. I back link on average about 70 percent home page 30 percent deep links.

          3. I use a huge anchor text variation, which is part of the reason I've never really had an issue with algo changes. Maybe 20-25 percent is my main keyword and the rest are variations of it, actual product names, things like "this site", "here", and the url as anchor text itself. "http://sitename.com" "www.sitename.com" "sitename.com". I also use a lot of 1 word keywords to make it look as natural as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
    I personally think it depends on your niche.
    Just one of my sites bring me about $60-$80 a day with adsense.

    I've never understood how people used adsense with the very low commissions... until realizing people are selling big ticket items

    But if i sell a big ticket items refer to make 50% of the commission... Just me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

      I personally think it depends on your niche.
      Just one of my sites bring me about $60-$80 a day with adsense.

      I've never understood how people used adsense with the very low commissions... until realizing people are selling big ticket items

      But if i sell a big ticket items refer to make 50% of the commission... Just me.

      Of course I fully agree it depends on your niche, I stated that in the OP. What I am trying to say is you can make a much larger amount of money with a smaller amount of traffic with Amazon Aff than you can with AdSense. How many unique visitors a day do you get to make $60-$80 on AdSense? Comparably, I make that on three sites with only 30 uniques a day each. Granted you may have struck gold with a very high CPC, but those are usually much harder to rank for. I'm able to rank the sites that I do with a pretty light back link profile using these untapped niche keywords I discover, which I've found is a much easier than targeting a 10k exact search term for an AdSense site with over a $2 cpc.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Of course I fully agree it depends on your niche, I stated that in the OP. What I am trying to say is you can make a much larger amount of money with a smaller amount of traffic with Amazon Aff than you can with AdSense. How many unique visitors a day do you get to make $60-$80 on AdSense? Comparably, I make that on three sites with only 30 uniques a day each. Granted you may have struck gold with a very high CPC, but those are usually much harder to rank for. I'm able to rank the sites that I do with a pretty light back link profile using these untapped niche keywords I discover, which I've found is a much easier than targeting a 10k exact search term for an AdSense site with over a $2 cpc.

        Maybe youre right. i have absolutely no knowlege whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

        I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

        What do you think?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

          Maybe youre right. i have absolutely no knowlege whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

          I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

          What do you think?
          None of my sites would get approved for AdWords because they link directly to Amazon from the homepage... I tried at one point.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Of course I fully agree it depends on your niche, I stated that in the OP. What I am trying to say is you can make a much larger amount of money with a smaller amount of traffic with Amazon Aff than you can with AdSense. How many unique visitors a day do you get to make $60-$80 on AdSense? Comparably, I make that on three sites with only 30 uniques a day each. Granted you may have struck gold with a very high CPC, but those are usually much harder to rank for. I'm able to rank the sites that I do with a pretty light back link profile using these untapped niche keywords I discover, which I've found is a much easier than targeting a 10k exact search term for an AdSense site with over a $2 cpc.

        Maybe you're right. i have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

        I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

        What do you think?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

          Maybe you're right. i have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

          I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

          What do you think?
          Weird, my post was deleted. I can't use AdWords for my sites because they get rejected by linking directly to Amazon Referral from home page.
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          • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Weird, my post was deleted. I can't use AdWords for my sites because they get rejected by linking directly to Amazon Referral from home page.
            Damn... That sucks. So basically, if i created amazon sites, i wouldn't even be able to promote them with my current traffic method?

            How lovely is that?

            so is SEO your main traffic source?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Nice job Ashera! We've been thinking about jumping into using amazon to supplement our adsense and your post was very inspiring. Do you have a blog?
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      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Nice job Ashera! We've been thinking about jumping into using amazon to supplement our adsense and your post was very inspiring. Do you have a blog?
      Thanks - I don't have any internet marketing blog - besides my basic one on my website design/seo company site, and that's more or less just basic information.

      I do intend to eventually package all the information I provided here into a simple PDF and will most likely just release it was a free package for all War Room members - but no time frame or estimate when that will happen.


      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Thanks for the info Ashera.

      How much did it cost you to setup your private blog network and what are the monthly costs for running it? Also, where did you learn about how to go about setting it up?
      No problem! It cost me around $800 for all the domains initially (but I bought these over time). It's around $500 each year to renew them. Hosting runs me quite a bit - I think its something like $300 a month combined. But because I am able to rank most of my sites so easily with it I feel it's completely worth it since I make it all back in a day or two.

      I didn't learn anywhere specific. I've never actually purchased any WSO, besides software itself. Just from reading around, other peoples experiences, and Google. In my entire time of having my network I've only had ONE site de indexed and I still have no idea why.
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    • Profile picture of the author todawg_not
      Ashera, you made more money in 1 day than I did for 2011 for Amazon associates program.... lol

      Good work

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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Thanks for the info Ashera.

    How much did it cost you to setup your private blog network and what are the monthly costs for running it? Also, where did you learn about how to go about setting it up?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Do you utilize any tools like Chris Guthries easyazon plugin to help you with your amazon product posting?
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      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Do you utilize any tools like Chris Guthries easyazon plugin to help you with your amazon product posting?
      Every site I make is done using the Weaver II Theme customized to my liking (free version in Wordpress theme directory works fine ), and the free plugin Amazon Product In a Post, with simple css customization to make it work for my needs.

      I'm not familiar with that plugin, but what I use works perfectly if you are building these sites manually like they should be built.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    I noticed earlier you mentioned that you use your own private blog network. How big have you grown that network to? I've also been heavily considering doing this in the next month or so to help give all my sites that extra boost.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      I noticed earlier you mentioned that you use your own private blog network. How big have you grown that network to? I've also been heavily considering doing this in the next month or so to help give all my sites that extra boost.
      I think the exact number of domains in my network is 53 at the moment.

      Though I do have access to a friends network of another 30 something domains as long as my sites fills some of the niche categories.

      We both don't just throw random unrelated stuff on a page to protect the integrity of it, which is why I choose to focus on about 6 different niches, though I do expand occasionally out of my bubbles.


      Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

      Damn... That sucks. So basically, if i created amazon sites, i wouldn't even be able to promote them with my current traffic method?

      How lovely is that?

      so is SEO your main traffic source?
      I think you might be able to if you don't link to Amazon from the home page, but I'm not 100 percent sure. AdWords is not my forte.

      Organic traffic accounts for 90 percent of my traffic while 10 percent comes in from videos, articles, and random places.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I think the exact number of domains in my network is 53 at the moment.

        Though I do have access to a friends network of another 30 something domains as long as my sites fills some of the niche categories.

        We both don't just throw random unrelated stuff on a page to protect the integrity of it, which is why I choose to focus on about 6 different niches, though I do expand occasionally out of my bubbles.




        I think you might be able to if you don't link to Amazon from the home page, but I'm not 100 percent sure. AdWords is not my forte.

        Organic traffic accounts for 90 percent of my traffic while 10 percent comes in from videos, articles, and random places.

        You mind sending me the link to one of your sites. I want to see if their any reason why adwords would disapprove the ad. you dont have to if you want to keep your niche secret. Id understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Do you use some linking from one of your amazon sites to the next? Or are all 40 of your sites standalone and in completely different niches?

    I know i'm asking a lot of questions, but you seem to be answering them so quickly
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Do you use some linking from one of your amazon sites to the next? Or are all 40 of your sites standalone and in completely different niches?

      I know i'm asking a lot of questions, but you seem to be answering them so quickly
      No problem, I don't mind. Don't have dinner plans for a couple hours.

      I do link to a maximum of 3 random sites from each site, as long as they are in the same or similar general category. Obviously I wouldn't link to my vacuum site from my school supplies site - but I might link to my curtains site from my vacuum site, since they are both in the category of home improvement.


      Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

      You mind sending me the link to one of your sites. I want to see if their any reason why adwords would disapprove the ad. you dont have to if you want to keep your niche secret. Id understand.
      No reason to send a link, Google themselves told me why.

      " As you know, we are deeply committed to providing a high-quality user experience for search results, both organic and paid. To that end, we regularly review sites and landing pages to ensure they adhere to our advertising policies.

      We noticed that one of your URLs was recently flagged as against policy, and as a result we are not displaying ads for that site. Please note that the affected URL will not receive ad traffic and all new ads pointing to this URL will be disapproved.

      The name of the policy is: Bridge page
      More information about this policy, including how to correct problems: http://support.google.com/adwordspol...&answer=190435 "

      What I find most interesting is that AdWords policies consider my site to be unuseful, yet I rank organically just fine.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        No problem, I don't mind. Don't have dinner plans for a couple hours.

        I do link to a maximum of 3 random sites from each site, as long as they are in the same or similar general category. Obviously I wouldn't link to my vacuum site from my school supplies site - but I might link to my curtains site from my vacuum site, since they are both in the category of home improvement.




        No reason to send a link, Google themselves told me why.

        " As you know, we are deeply committed to providing a high-quality user experience for search results, both organic and paid. To that end, we regularly review sites and landing pages to ensure they adhere to our advertising policies.

        We noticed that one of your URLs was recently flagged as against policy, and as a result we are not displaying ads for that site. Please note that the affected URL will not receive ad traffic and all new ads pointing to this URL will be disapproved.

        The name of the policy is: Bridge page
        More information about this policy, including how to correct problems: Bridge page - Advertising Policies Help "

        What I find most interesting is that AdWords policies consider my site to be unuseful, yet I rank organically just fine.

        Yeah... That same thing happened to me. I just wanted to see, because i wanted to avoid how the site was setup. But i think they just dont like to send traffic to sites that are monetized.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cashondemand
        When building a Amazon Affiliate site Is it necessary to rewrite the product description ? I understand everything else but I'm not sure if this is necessary.
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          Originally Posted by Cashondemand View Post

          When building a Amazon Affiliate site Is it necessary to rewrite the product description ? I understand everything else but I'm not sure if this is necessary.
          At a minimum, yes. However, the most successful affiliates use their own descriptions altogether, leaving the Amazon description out of the mix completely.
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          Originally Posted by Cashondemand View Post

          When building a Amazon Affiliate site Is it necessary to rewrite the product description ? I understand everything else but I'm not sure if this is necessary.
          Yes, I do not copy paste anything directly from the Amazon product page. Everything is completely rewritten.
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            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Yes, I do not copy paste anything directly from the Amazon product page. Everything is completely rewritten.
            How many sites do you have now?
            How much time do you spend on them?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Yea, that makes sense. Well i'm really hoping to dive pretty deep into amazon and build my portfolio. So far we've been growing at a great rate with adsense. Our strengths have really been in keyword research so i'm thinking that it will all translate well into amazon. Right now were working with magic submitter to build links, and it seems to be doing it's job, but I'm sure that moving towards building some high pr blog networks would really top us off for some serious backlinking juice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Yea, that makes sense. Well i'm really hoping to dive pretty deep into amazon and build my portfolio. So far we've been growing at a great rate with adsense. Our strengths have really been in keyword research so i'm thinking that it will all translate well into amazon. Right now were working with magic submitter to build links, and it seems to be doing it's job, but I'm sure that moving towards building some high pr blog networks would really top us off for some serious backlinking juice.
      I do think they do absolute wonders for SEO if done correctly. I know there are some WSO's about building one- find a trusted and reputable Warrior and grab one of them. It's a lot of work, but worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
    Thank you. That tip about Amazon Product in a Post plugin looks real good. I will try it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Lyanna View Post

      Thank you. That tip about Amazon Product in a Post plugin looks real good. I will try it.
      No problem! If you do use it - make sure to go to options, and once you've filled out all the info put a checkmark next to "Open Product Link in New Window?" and "Use My Custom Styles?:"

      Add these two lines of CSS above all the CSS they have already there.


      td.amazon-used { display: none !important; }

      td.amazon-used-label { display: none !important; }



      It get rids of the "used" pricing option which looks very tacky and confuses buyers in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnnyflex
    Thanks Ashera. I think im gonna try amazon again. I used to have a medical sites which has amazon products but unfortunately, the site got slapped from the last 3 panda updates. I agree, amazon is good as i was earning that good before but now i went discourage after google slapped my site. By the way, how many links you do everyday for your sites to get that #1 spot?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by johnnyflex View Post

      Thanks Ashera. I think im gonna try amazon again. I used to have a medical sites which has amazon products but unfortunately, the site got slapped from the last 3 panda updates. I agree, amazon is good as i was earning that good before but now i went discourage after google slapped my site. By the way, how many links you do everyday for your sites to get that #1 spot?
      Do it! It's so exciting waking up to see the power of that "cookie." I think maybe 50 percent of the products I receive commission on are products that I've actually reviewed. The rest are just random products from people on my cookie who have clicked my link.

      In regards to backlinks - very few to be honest. The majority of my sites have an average of 100-500 backlinks, but they are 80 percent really high quality. I honestly don't link build for weeks at a time for certain sites because my profile is so strong due to my blog network and manual web 2.0s.
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Do it! It's so exciting waking up to see the power of that "cookie." I think maybe 50 percent of the products I receive commission on are products that I've actually reviewed. The rest are just random products from people on my cookie who have clicked my link.

        In regards to backlinks - very few to be honest. The majority of my sites have an average of 100-500 backlinks, but they are 80 percent really high quality. I honestly don't link build for weeks at a time for certain sites because my profile is so strong due to my blog network and manual web 2.0s.
        By the way, in your blog network, what kind of links you put? is it a sitewide blogroll, or is it just in a post?
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          Originally Posted by johnnyflex View Post

          By the way, in your blog network, what kind of links you put? is it a sitewide blogroll, or is it just in a post?
          Most of them are contextual in posts - all unique content on every site. I talk more about it in some of my previous posts in this thread- I know it's all a lot of posts to go through. I do the occasional blogroll but I never use my main keyword as my anchor if I do.
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          • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
            Ashera, thank you so much for this thread. I also have Amazon sites, but am just up to about $50-$90...per month. I have a long way to go to get to the level I want, which is that much per day. When I get to that point, then hopefully what you are making per day will not seem as out of reach as does a trip to Mars.

            My question at this point is about leaving a footprint and hosting. Do you have a limit as to how many sites you have on one hosting account? Are the sites you have on your personal blog network on different IP addresses? I realize your friend helps you out, but what about the work you do yourself on your own computer?


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            • Profile picture of the author Ashera
              Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

              Ashera, thank you so much for this thread. I also have Amazon sites, but am just up to about $50-$90...per month. I have a long way to go to get to the level I want, which is that much per day. When I get to that point, then hopefully what you are making per day will not seem as out of reach as does a trip to Mars.

              My question at this point is about leaving a footprint and hosting. Do you have a limit as to how many sites you have on one hosting account? Are the sites you have on your personal blog network on different IP addresses? I realize your friend helps you out, but what about the work you do yourself on your own computer?


              Catherine
              Catherine - just stay at it, and stay motivated. This is over 2 years in the making.

              In regards to your question- I have hosting spread across like 24 different hosting companies, and I think its almost 1 IP per domain. A few of them are on SEO hosting, but it's the higher end $6-8 per IP ones.

              I manage my blog network through a large subscription to to ManageWP - a great resource.

              The html sites I use HMA Pro VPN when uploading files via FTP. I'm very careful.
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  • Profile picture of the author visimedia
    It's a good posting dude. I think you target the right keyword for the amazon. I tried amazon once, and I will try it again after I read this. Keep it up, and wish you all the best !!
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  • Profile picture of the author shaunD
    Congrats ... ! What is ur conversion ratio with Amazon ?
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      Originally Posted by shaunD View Post

      Congrats ... ! What is ur conversion ratio with Amazon ?
      6.31% in the last month - but I get between 600-900 clicks every day.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Ray
    thanks for this report for inspire me about my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    Hey Ashera, nice share!

    I just had some questions about how you set up your sites up.

    Are you just targeting your root domain whether its 1KW or 2-5 KWs? and randomly deep linking for the sake of the link profile?

    You mention you use about 100-500 links per site. When you do actually bump it up to 500, what kind of spread do you use in terms of link types? I would imagine the bulk to be web 2.0, but it still seems pretty steep in terms of costs.

    I'm also curious to know what you took away from your biggest Amazon site failures.

    thanks man
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Bryan V View Post

      Hey Ashera, nice share!

      I just had some questions about how you set up your sites up.

      Are you just targeting your root domain whether its 1KW or 2-5 KWs? and randomly deep linking for the sake of the link profile?

      You mention you use about 100-500 links per site. When you do actually bump it up to 500, what kind of spread do you use in terms of link types? I would imagine the bulk to be web 2.0, but it still seems pretty steep in terms of costs.

      I'm also curious to know what you took away from your biggest Amazon site failures.

      thanks man
      Hi Bryan - I do only target the root domain and randomly deep link just for the sake of link profile. I've never really had success in ranking product names, and I'm not the type of person who goes after 10-20 different keywords that each get 20-100 searches - though I know that practice does work.

      When I do bump it up to 500 (which is only on my sites that I've had since the beginning) it's a variety of web 2.0 profiles, manual social bookmarks, manual blog comments, and some guest posting.

      Your last question is a great one. Probably the most important thing I've learned is something I shared about in another post - just because I'm ranking doesn't mean I will have high conversions.

      One of my sites in the beginning was getting something like 75 uniques a day - and only 1-2 clicks to Amazon. Why? My product reviews were boring, dull, and generic.

      Nowadays my secret is this: I do is what I call taking on a "persona". I tell my writer what type of personality to take on.

      For instance on my site that is focused mainly on vacuum cleaners I'm a mom with two kids and a dog. In the product reviews I will say things like "this is great for cleaning up those bowls of cereal and all that pet hair on the couch." or "this vacuum is so quiet I can use it in the same room when my infant is sleeping."

      If I'm selling different types of tools, I would take on the role of a mechanic or something similar. I would say things like "this things great whether the wife wants me to fix our broken sink or if I'm working on my truck."

      Adding personality and a human voice to the site and to the products increases my conversion tenfold.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    You seem to be downplaying (maybe not) the importance of the product reviews. Looks like your homepage has links to each review, then at the bottom there are some images + excerpts for maybe a few of the products only.

    Have you any idea what % converts on the homepage vs. review pages?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Bryan V View Post

      You seem to be downplaying (maybe not) the importance of the product reviews. Looks like your homepage has links to each review, then at the bottom there are some images + excerpts for maybe a few of the products only.

      Have you any idea what % converts on the homepage vs. review pages?
      Missed this post earlier - but looks like I happened to cover product reviews in your other question.

      The home page has at least 6 product reviews (excerpts and images) on it after I have the links to read review - I think this helps my bounce rate stay around 35 percent and avg time on site above 4 minutes for nearly all my sites.

      I really can't tell you the exact amount of percentages of converting on homepage vs review pages - if I were to guess I'd say 25-30 percent homepage - thats just based on a brief glance of my Piwik Analytics for one site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    I find the same, Amazon affiliate work, if well done, can make more money for the same effort, compared to AdSense. BUT I'd also say that making money with AdSense is a lot easier, for newbies. Writing a really good Amazon product report is not as easy as writing a general article, and in terms of outsourcing good Amazon product reports would cost many times that of general articles which will make money from AdSense.

    So, I'd personally advise a newbie to make some money with AdSense to start with, and learn some things about IM, then move on to Amazon a bit later, as it requires a bit more in terms of keyphrase research, and product report writing etc. Having said that, both approaches are certainly viable for a newbie who's willing to take the time to learn some details.

    So, if you want the quickest and easiest way to get your first income from IM, I'd say AdSense is easiest (see my Sig for details!), and the initial experience of success in IM is a big boost so I'd say get to that initial success and some earnings, as quickly and easily as possible, then go for slightly more involved systems such as Amazon.

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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      I find the same, Amazon affiliate work, if well done, can make more money for the same effort, compared to AdSense. BUT I'd also say that making money with AdSense is a lot easier, for newbies. Writing a really good Amazon product report is not as easy as writing a general article, and in terms of outsourcing good Amazon product reports would cost many times that of general articles which will make money from AdSense.

      So, I'd personally advise a newbie to make some money with AdSense to start with, and learn some things about IM, then move on to Amazon a bit later, as it requires a bit more in terms of keyphrase research, and product report writing etc. Having said that, both approaches are certainly viable for a newbie who's willing to take the time to learn some details.

      So, if you want the quickest and easiest way to get your first income from IM, I'd say AdSense is easiest (see my Sig for details!), and the initial experience of success in IM is a big boost so I'd say get to that initial success and some earnings, as quickly and easily as possible, then go for slightly more involved systems such as Amazon.

      Chris
      Chris you make some good points - but in my opinion I don't see a huge difficulty difference between writing 600 words for an AdSense site (where you'll be researching something and putting it in your own words) or writing a 600 word Amazon Product review (where you'll be researching the Amazon page and other sites to write a product review in your own words).

      That's just my opinion though. I've done both from the start - and before I outsourced my articles I wrote them all myself. I actually found writing compelling Amazon reviews easier than writing a boring 600 word rant on acne or the latest dental fad.
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Hi Ashera,

    This thread has really motivated me and many others - thanks!

    Can I ask how you choose images for your posts? Presumably you don't purchase every item you review, so do you simply use the photos shown on Amazon?

    Also, do you capture email addresses on all your websites? If so, what do you send them? For example, if one of your websites is about nose hair trimming you could send them details of other grooming products, but you would also need to send free info in most of the other emails. Question is, you can't send email after email about nose hair trimming, so would you even bother building a list?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Hi Ashera,

      This thread has really motivated me and many others - thanks!

      Can I ask how you choose images for your posts? Presumably you don't purchase every item you review, so do you simply use the photos shown on Amazon?

      Also, do you capture email addresses on all your websites? If so, what do you send them? For example, if one of your websites is about nose hair trimming you could send them details of other grooming products, but you would also need to send free info in most of the other emails. Question is, you can't send email after email about nose hair trimming, so would you even bother building a list?
      Thanks Jodie, that's my entire goal. Get people motivated.

      I do tend to take images off Amazon - I'm really not sure the legality of that to be honest but haven't had an issue as of yet.

      I do not do any email marketing or list building on any of my sites - for that exact reason. Plus I don't the opt in rate would be anything above like .01 percent. Why would anyone who's looking to buy a vacuum cleaner want to get a mailing list? I know I wouldn't. What am I gona do, offer them a free ebook on best cleaning methods? Haha, I just don't see a way to make it work, though I'm sure a more creative mind than me could.
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      • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Why would anyone who's looking to buy a vacuum cleaner want to get a mailing list? I know I wouldn't. What am I gona do, offer them a free ebook on best cleaning methods?
        This is the very problem I have struggled with (for niche markets) when told that list building is so important. After the first 20 or so emails, what on earth would you send them?
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  • Profile picture of the author pinterest01
    i would like to say congrats for ur success...

    if i may asking you a question, when u join the amazon affiliate program, do u already setup a website with product review or an empty site?

    hopefully you'll share your method here to make some people like me wants to jump into amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by pinterest01 View Post

      i would like to say congrats for ur success...

      if i may asking you a question, when u join the amazon affiliate program, do u already setup a website with product review or an empty site?

      hopefully you'll share your method here to make some people like me wants to jump into amazon.
      I had an empty site when I first registered with Amazon Affiliates and built the first one from there.


      Originally Posted by Duy Nguyen View Post

      Max,

      again, I have to say "WOOOOW" You've over-delivered with this thread man! I love the way you reply to people with details and in a fast manner.

      And I see most of the questions I asked you with my previous pm were answered right here One thing I want to ask is about the WP theme you use. It seems like there is no way to adjust the posts on homepage to display just 150-200 words of the original content then I can use the "read more" link to lower my bounce rate like you said in your previous pm.

      Is there any way to go around this? Does "WP Weaver" support that by default (sorry, I haven't tested it yet, just downloaded it a few minutes ago)?

      One more thing is can you share how you structure your product reviews? I want to know it as I usually aim for more than 1k words with my reviews. But I have to write everything myself and to be honest, it's hard and frustrating to write about things I don't like much

      And I really like your idea of documenting this thread into a handy PDF file. Too bad, you intended to give it to war room members only lol

      Duy.
      Hi Duy!

      I'm so glad you find it helpful. I just noticed I had another PM from you that I didn't respond to, it must have gotten marked as read and I never saw it - I will check it in a minute and make sure if I haven't answered anything to respond to it.

      Someone right before this post mentioned- you just use the read more button (which is to the left of the spell check button) and place it after the 150-200 words and it will automatically generate the excerpt on the home page.

      My product reviews are usually structured like this:
      • Intro to the product
      • Description of product
      • Benefits of product
      • Comparison to other products I reviewed or other products in its niche
      • More Features of product
      • Call to action

      If I do write something negative about it it's usually trivial. I'm not a fan of doing pros and cons- plus every product I choose to write about already has at least a 4 star review on Amazon so I let that do the selling for me!


      Originally Posted by retroslice View Post

      Great thread thanks for sharing.

      So you are basically picking keywords with low competition and between 1k-4k exact searches?

      Do you check how many competing pages in google, or any other factors?

      I choose a medium competition keyword for my first amazon site. Now it is a "high" one and with 6k local searches a month.

      It is in bottom of page 2 right now but I am still getting around 5-10 uniques a day with maybe 5-10% clicks to the amazon page (no sales yet).

      I just tried a bunch of amazon products in adwords and it seemed impossible to find low competition ones with 1k+!
      Competing pages in Google means absolutely nothing to me. I've seen keywords with like 300k competing pages with absolutely difficult competition. All that matters to me is how difficult it is to get top 3.

      I've never been able to use AdWords for my Amazon sites as they are all rejected for being bridge pages.

      I personally don't bother with any high competition keywords because of the level of work needed to rank for top 3. With so many sites to take care of I need to be able to rank with the most minimal amount of work possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
    Max,

    again, I have to say "WOOOOW" You've over-delivered with this thread man! I love the way you reply to people with details and in a fast manner.

    And I see most of the questions I asked you with my previous pm were answered right here One thing I want to ask is about the WP theme you use. It seems like there is no way to adjust the posts on homepage to display just 150-200 words of the original content then I can use the "read more" link to lower my bounce rate like you said in your previous pm.

    Is there any way to go around this? Does "WP Weaver" support that by default (sorry, I haven't tested it yet, just downloaded it a few minutes ago)?

    One more thing is can you share how you structure your product reviews? I want to know it as I usually aim for more than 1k words with my reviews. But I have to write everything myself and to be honest, it's hard and frustrating to write about things I don't like much

    And I really like your idea of documenting this thread into a handy PDF file. Too bad, you intended to give it to war room members only lol

    Duy.
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  • Profile picture of the author stevo235
    You put a "click here to read more" on each individual product on the homepage and that links directly to amazon from your homepage?
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  • Profile picture of the author retroslice
    Great thread thanks for sharing.

    So you are basically picking keywords with low competition and between 1k-4k exact searches?

    Do you check how many competing pages in google, or any other factors?

    I choose a medium competition keyword for my first amazon site. Now it is a "high" one and with 6k local searches a month.

    It is in bottom of page 2 right now but I am still getting around 5-10 uniques a day with maybe 5-10% clicks to the amazon page (no sales yet).

    I just tried a bunch of amazon products in adwords and it seemed impossible to find low competition ones with 1k+!
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Earlier you mentioned you use some quality wiki's to build backlinks. Do you use any software to post to the wiki's or do you do it manually?

    Also, when you submit to web 2.0's to build a backlink, does the length of the article have a bearing on the amount of link juice you get? For example, would posting an article 800 words in length give you more link juice than submitting a 250 word article.
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      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Earlier you mentioned you use some quality wiki's to build backlinks. Do you use any software to post to the wiki's or do you do it manually?

      Also, when you submit to web 2.0's to build a backlink, does the length of the article have a bearing on the amount of link juice you get? For example, would posting an article 800 words in length give you more link juice than submitting a 250 word article.
      I don't use any software for my tier 1 links. They are done manually, at least nowadays. Some of my older sites I did more automated SEO, but as things change so do I. I usually do 2-3 posts per Web 2.0 of 400-600 words each. At least 1 of them usually has no links at all.


      Originally Posted by alistair View Post

      This is a good thread and thanks for sharing what works for you.

      I have a couple questions to do with seo really.

      I know by what you have said and the image above that you have a buy now button on your posts, but how many links per post on average do you have that point to Amazon and if so are they text links and do you link your images to Amazon as well?

      Also do you cloak your links at all?

      Thanks.
      I have a total of two links that point to Amazon per post. My images are not linked to Amazon but self hosted and when clicked just enlarge using WP-JQuery plugin. The two links are the "Buy now" button and a call to action at the end, like "click to read more", or "find more info here".

      I do not cloak any links.


      Originally Posted by ddwebx View Post

      Sorry to bother you Ashera, But I do have another question. Do you usually get the EMD, let's say the .COM, .NET, .ORG version are already taken, would you go for a .WS or a .INFO or a country version domain? Or get use something close to an EMD ?
      It depends. If the EMD is available I'll take it majority of the time, but I'm not stressed by having them. I never do anything but .com or .net. I don't like ranking .orgs, and would never even consider a .info or a country version - but that's just my opinion


      Originally Posted by Lares View Post

      Well i had to do Sherlock Holmes stuff.

      Hello Sarah!
      Hi, strong detective skills That's a network of a few sites I've built recently that I'm actually testing different methods of SEO on - I'm using a few public blog networks and some more grey hat methods and seeing how they work. Actually decent so far - but I know it won't last.


      Originally Posted by stevo235 View Post

      You put a "click here to read more" on each individual product on the homepage and that links directly to amazon from your homepage?
      The call to action is at the end of the post, show it doesn't show up on the homepage since I have excerpts.


      Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

      great work Ashera and thank you for being so open with sharing information

      I have 2 newbie type questions

      1. why do you have so many hosting accounts? you are not doing anything black hat - why not have everything on one host, you'll save a lot of cash and organisational work

      2. would you only recommend amazon affiliate marketing to people residing in the usa because amazon.com is by far the biggest market. If a spanish or german or english or irish person wanted to do amazon affiliate marketing am i correct in saying they would be restricted to amazon.de or amazon.es or amazon.co.uk? Or is it possible for them to direct their traffic to the amazon.com site too even if they are not a resident in the US?
      1. The blog network is on separate hosts in order to increase its value. 50 backlinks from 1 IP is nowhere near as powerful as 50 backlinks from 50 ips.

      2. Don't take my word on this- but from what I understand people in other countries can use Amazon.com affiliates, with a few stipulations on payouts. Theres another guy on here who I think knows a bit more about technicalities of Amazon "Gaz Cooper" or something similar. Might want to find a post by him and send him a PM.
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      • Profile picture of the author c275353118
        Ashera, I saw you mentioned add "persona" in product reviews. I think it is doable to add persona to a few reviews like your example. But when I have 20 product reviews to write, how to add persona to so many reviews? Vistors who read my reviews may think about how can the webmaster review so many vacuum cleaners and it is impossible?
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    This is a good thread and thanks for sharing what works for you.

    I have a couple questions to do with seo really.

    I know by what you have said and the image above that you have a buy now button on your posts, but how many links per post on average do you have that point to Amazon and if so are they text links and do you link your images to Amazon as well?

    Also do you cloak your links at all?

    Thanks.
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    Sorry to bother you Ashera, But I do have another question. Do you usually get the EMD, let's say the .COM, .NET, .ORG version are already taken, would you go for a .WS or a .INFO or a country version domain? Or get use something close to an EMD ?
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Ashera,

    1. I was a bit confused about the search volume you're looking for in keyword phrases...did you mean that you look for keyword phrases with no more than 4K searches per month but no less than 1K searches per month?

    2. Are these generic keyword phrases like 'best vacuum cleaners' or something more specific like 'best vacuum cleaners under 200'?

    3. When analyzing the competition I'm still not very clear on what you're looking for in the top 8; low number of backlinks to actual page and/or low quality backlinks to actual page? Bad optimization for keyword phrase? Do you take into consideration domain age, number and quality of backlinks to entire site, and/or PR?

    4. Could you further explain how you interlink pages to reduce your site's bounce rate?

    5. With the 15-30 Web 2.0s you said something about 2 articles each...did you mean that for each of the 15-30 Web 2.0 properties/sites that you post 2 articles for each property/site that points back to 1 of your sites?

    And do you have multiple accounts for each Web 2.0 property/site that you use so as to leave less of a footprint?

    Or do you have a list of a few hundred different Web 2.0 properties and you use a different batch of 15-30 for each new site?

    6. And with your private network did you build it completely from scratch or did you buy domains with PR and/or aged domains? How long did it take to build and/or how much did it cost to build?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Ashera,

      1. I was a bit confused about the search volume you're looking for in keyword phrases...did you mean that you look for keyword phrases with no more than 4K searches per month but no less than 1K searches per month?

      2. Are these generic keyword phrases like 'best vacuum cleaners' or something more specific like 'best vacuum cleaners under 200'?

      3. When analyzing the competition I'm still not very clear on what you're looking for in the top 8; low number of backlinks to actual page and/or low quality backlinks to actual page? Bad optimization for keyword phrase? Do you take into consideration domain age, number and quality of backlinks to entire site, and/or PR?

      4. Could you further explain how you interlink pages to reduce your site's bounce rate?

      5. With the 15-30 Web 2.0s you said something about 2 articles each...did you mean that for each of the 15-30 Web 2.0 properties/sites that you post 2 articles for each property/site that points back to 1 of your sites?

      And do you have multiple accounts for each Web 2.0 property/site that you use so as to leave less of a footprint?

      Or do you have a list of a few hundred different Web 2.0 properties and you use a different batch of 15-30 for each new site?

      6. And with your private network did you build it completely from scratch or did you buy domains with PR and/or aged domains? How long did it take to build and/or how much did it cost to build?
      1. Pretty much , I mean if I find a search with higher volume than 4k and it's low/medium competition by all means I'll go after it - but I haven't found one of them with a high online commercial intent. If I do go after a search with 1k searches per month, I need to know I have at least another keyword with 1k searches as well. Ultimately I won't go after a site unless I have a combined total of keywords that I think I can rank for of 2k searches+ a month.

      2. Usually something more specific, but some are generic - people just never thought to build sites around them.

      3. Everything you said here is what I take into account- your spot on in how I evaluate.

      4. On top of the header is a navigation menu to different categories - sometimes they are just price ranges and other times more specific categories if the site isn't a small niche. Under the header I have a navigation which links to every single post, with a shortened title.

      On the widget I use the same custom menu I did for the one under my header - so all my posts are again listed right there.

      I also, on the homepage, AGAIN manually categorize and link to each individual post with a short description.

      It's a bit overkill, but you have to be absolutely computer deficient to not know how to navigate around my site. My mother who can barely use Google, is able to navigate around it pretty easily.

      Also after each single post I use Ajax Random Posts which gives another 4 posts automatically for people to look at. I seriously have tons of people going through 7-15 pages on a review site, with multiple Amazon clicks per person sometimes.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Do you have exact metrics that you look for when analyzing competition, i.e., you don't pursue it if your competition has more than 100 backlinks to the page; if your competitors have tens of thousands of backlinks to the entire domain; is pr4+; the domain is 5+ years; etc?

    Thanks for your response.

    And I get that you may not be comfortable with going into your exact backlinking strategy but any info you could possibly provide in regards to questions #4 and #5 would be appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Do you have exact metrics that you look for when analyzing competition, i.e., you don't pursue it if your competition has more than 100 backlinks to the page; if your competitors have tens of thousands of backlinks to the entire domain; is pr4+; the domain is 5+ years; etc?

      Thanks for your response.

      And I get that you may not be comfortable with going into your exact backlinking strategy but any info you could possibly provide in regards to questions #4 and #5 would be appreciated.
      There's really no set number of backlinks because it all depends on the quality of them and the quality of their onsite SEO.

      PR means absolutely nothing to me. I have new sites that are PR0 outranking Pr6 pages.

      I may have misunderstood question 4 as I thought I answered it. Are you talking about how I interlink my different sites?

      Totally forgot about question 5 and 6, my bad.

      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Ashera,

      5. With the 15-30 Web 2.0s you said something about 2 articles each...did you mean that for each of the 15-30 Web 2.0 properties/sites that you post 2 articles for each property/site that points back to 1 of your sites?

      And do you have multiple accounts for each Web 2.0 property/site that you use so as to leave less of a footprint?

      Or do you have a list of a few hundred different Web 2.0 properties and you use a different batch of 15-30 for each new site?

      6. And with your private network did you build it completely from scratch or did you buy domains with PR and/or aged domains? How long did it take to build and/or how much did it cost to build?
      5. It's 15-30 different web 2.0 properties that will point to no more than 2 of my sites, with 2+ posts each. 1 of them usually has no link in it. I use about 70 different Web 2.0's. Every property has it's own unique account with its own unique email adress and unique IP using HMA VPN and private proxies.

      6. It consists of probably 35 aged domains with PR and 15 or so of my sites that gained PR that I decided to scratch as money sites since they were performing poorly, I felt the PR and backlinks I had gained were better off used as part of my blog network.
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    Sorry you did answer my question to question #4 I meant questions #5 and #6 which you just answered.

    Thanks for all the info. This really is a highly and sound and strategic way to make money with Amazon...just very elaborate and takes quite a bit of investment and planning (not a ton I'm sure but you obviously think and plan things out very well).

    Do you keep the sites small or do you ever build any out or have plans of building out your better performing sites?
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      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Sorry you did answer my question to question #4 I meant questions #5 and #6 which you just answered.

      Thanks for all the info. This really is a highly and sound and strategic way to make money with Amazon...just very elaborate and takes quite a bit of investment and planning (not a ton I'm sure but you obviously think and plan things out very well).

      Do you keep the sites small or do you ever build any out or have plans of building out your better performing sites?
      I do want to build some of them to 50 post sites - but the problem is I only write reviews for products 4 stars or over on Amazon. For many of the niches it's hard to find 10-15 products that even fit this category.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Hello Ashera,

    Man, what you're doing here is fantastic, thank you very much for post your strategy and answer all the question...This thread will be huge very soon

    What we have to bear in mind this is not a simple act, as you mentioned you've got over 2 years taking action, everything is planed too.

    Pm me if you can build 1 site for me I will send the keywords

    Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      What you have here, Ashera, is a brilliant ebook. This is one of the most inspiring threads. I tire of the usual 'Make $100,000 in 2 days' where there is no proof the person actually knows what they're talking about, just a vague promise and a link in their signature.

      After reading through this thread, I feel I have enough information to get started and many others have asked the questions rattling around in my head!

      I'll certainly be buying your ebook!
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    Just to point out, not all WordPress themes support the read more link with the sticky front page article, pain in the neck...
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      Hello Ashera,

      Man, what you're doing here is fantastic, thank you very much for post your strategy and answer all the question...This thread will be huge very soon

      What we have to bear in mind this is not a simple act, as you mentioned you've got over 2 years taking action, everything is planed too.

      Pm me if you can build 1 site for me I will send the keywords

      Regards,
      Thank you - I don't sell or build sites but I provided almost all the tools and info necessary right here in this thread. Best of luck.

      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      Just to point out, not all WordPress themes support the read more link with the sticky front page article, pain in the neck...
      Very true- but the theme I recommend throughout this thread "Weaver II" works brilliantly with them and is highly customizable.

      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      What you have here, Ashera, is a brilliant ebook. This is one of the most inspiring threads. I tire of the usual 'Make $100,000 in 2 days' where there is no proof the person actually knows what they're talking about, just a vague promise and a link in their signature.

      After reading through this thread, I feel I have enough information to get started and many others have asked the questions rattling around in my head!

      I'll certainly be buying your ebook!
      Jodie I really appreciate it. Nothing for sale here and no false promises, just my own experience! I really do want to compile all this info together, but I really need to find the motivation and time to do it so I have no idea when and if that will be.

      Originally Posted by spoiledkid01 View Post

      I asked you earlier that did you do review sites for amazon?
      And how many sites do you have?
      How many posts/reviews those sites have?
      Hi I answered all these questions within the thread, the OP covers your first question - and I do 8-20 reviews for each site.
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    I asked you earlier that did you do review sites for amazon?
    And how many sites do you have?
    How many posts/reviews those sites have?
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  • Profile picture of the author spen
    Hi Ashera,
    shall i ask a question?
    I research a keyword using Market Samurai follow. top 10 are big sites like amazon. Their SEO on page are bad, but they have a lot of backlinks. Can i rank over them easily?
    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyPandy
    Hi Ashera,

    Thanks a lot for sharing all this info. I've never had any success with amazon, but I might just give it a go again after reading this thread

    What sort of on-site SEO do you do?

    Thanks,
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    Whats kind of your site?
    A reviews site or a news site ?
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  • Profile picture of the author lossman29
    Amazon was always better than adsense hands down. For the same amount of traffic, the revenue you potentially get is much higher. This is a no brainer really
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  • Profile picture of the author SeFi
    Really interesting thread, I also have an amazon website but in France, ~30 visits a day but no conversions...

    Were you hit by Pinguin man ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by SeFi View Post

      Really interesting thread, I also have an amazon website but in France, ~30 visits a day but no conversions...

      Were you hit by Pinguin man ?
      I was not thank goodness.


      Originally Posted by markviduk86 View Post

      Whats kind of your site?
      A reviews site or a news site ?
      All reviews.


      Originally Posted by spen View Post

      Hi Ashera,
      shall i ask a question?
      I research a keyword using Market Samurai follow. top 10 are big sites like amazon. Their SEO on page are bad, but they have a lot of backlinks. Can i rank over them easily?
      thanks
      I can't see the picture, it's not working. I'd have to actually see the keyword to know.


      Originally Posted by AndyPandy View Post

      Hi Ashera,

      Thanks a lot for sharing all this info. I've never had any success with amazon, but I might just give it a go again after reading this thread

      What sort of on-site SEO do you do?

      Thanks,
      Just the standard: H1 tag and H2 tags, well structured pages, solid interlinking, decent use of keyword density, good text/html ratio.


      Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

      Ashera, in post# 144 of this thread, you list different sections you use in structuring your product reviews, beginning with "intro to the product."

      Do you actually have these as sections set out with bolded titles with h tags, or does the information just flow in one article with just regular paragraphs?

      Catherine
      I normally just do it in paragraphs. Sometimes I will bold "Product Features" or some other part on certain sites- but for some niches it wouldn't make sense.


      Originally Posted by lossman29 View Post

      Amazon was always better than adsense hands down. For the same amount of traffic, the revenue you potentially get is much higher. This is a no brainer really
      That's the main point I'm trying to get across. Obviously some keywords won't work for Amazon ~ but if you find a good one 60 unique visitors a day can easily make you $15-$30 a day -whereas its rare that the same amount of visitors could make that via the majority of AdSense sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author spen
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post



        I can't see the picture, it's not working. I'd have to actually see the keyword to know.

        Hi Ashera,
        I had already sent PM to you the keyword.
        Do you receive it?
        thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Troyman
    Pretty cool. I've totally done the opposite and made pretty decent income from adsense. Def' looking to switching things up and amazon seems to be something I should consider.
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    • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
      Ashera, in post# 144 of this thread, you list different sections you use in structuring your product reviews, beginning with "intro to the product."

      Do you actually have these as sections set out with bolded titles with h tags, or does the information just flow in one article with just regular paragraphs?

      Catherine
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  • Profile picture of the author Wieli
    Hey Ashera great post,

    I thought i read it here earlier today, but i cant find the post. How do you build up your page with keywords.

    Do you pick 1 and only rank for that, or do you try to rank every review with a keyword?
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    Great post. And WOW, Corona Del Mar?! Sheesh! Can I hang out with you? Hahahaha. You must live in a mansion .
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      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Great post. And WOW, Corona Del Mar?! Sheesh! Can I hang out with you? Hahahaha. You must live in a mansion .
      I love CDM - no mansion yet, but working towards it.

      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      How do you schedule your content/reviews?

      Do you post them all together?

      Regards,
      I don't. Once I buy a domain I usually post 1 review to get the site indexed- then drop feed them over a month or two - then add a new review every month or two to get it as fresh in the eyes of Google.
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    How do you schedule your content/reviews?

    Do you post them all together?

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    SO happy to see this! I know adsense can treat their publishers pretty bad and Amazon is actually very helpful when you go and ask them questions that may be on your mind.

    Great to see you making some bank with them!

    -Omar
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    • Profile picture of the author adamcm
      Thank you for the great thread!

      Question on your blog network. You mentioned that you get links from sites that are relevant to your niche. But i'm curious how you found PR2+ blogs on vacuum cleaners (for example) to add to your network? For instance if I wanted to create my own network is it ok to pick up random Pr domains and place content related to my niche on them instead?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by adamcm View Post

        Thank you for the great thread!

        Question on your blog network. You mentioned that you get links from sites that are relevant to your niche. But i'm curious how you found PR2+ blogs on vacuum cleaners (for example) to add to your network? For instance if I wanted to create my own network is it ok to pick up random Pr domains and place content related to my niche on them instead?
        Some of them were sites I had built that I decided to scratch since they weren't making money and had gained PR - others I just picked up aged and with PR already. I don't think if my site is about vacuums I need it to have "vacuum cleaner" in the domain. As long as the domain isn't like about something completely random then I think it's totally fine. You see a lot of expiring domains with legitimate PR with peoples names or names of old businesses that are pretty generic - for all Google knows it's just a blogger who likes to talk about cleaning their house.

        Originally Posted by John34 View Post

        You mentioned that you have around 53 sites in your blog network, i wanted to know if these are niche specific or these blog network sites have content from different niches?
        I keep them categorized - I won't post about vacuums on an electronics one.


        Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

        Would you mind sharing how you check your keyword competition ?
        I go into detail about it somewhere within this post, just scour around
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    Would you mind sharing how you check your keyword competition ?
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  • Profile picture of the author markviduk86
    How many posts per site?
    And how many post for a site per week?
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    You mentioned that you have around 53 sites in your blog network, i wanted to know if these are niche specific or these blog network sites have content from different niches?
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  • Profile picture of the author TechGeek
    Instead of earning the 5% commission by being an affiliate of Amazon, have you ever consider to create your own product such as ebook and sell it at Amazon? I bet you will earn more than being an affiliate, even though I've not created my own product before, just wondering.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by TechGeek View Post

      Instead of earning the 5% commission by being an affiliate of Amazon, have you ever consider to create your own product such as ebook and sell it at Amazon? I bet you will earn more than being an affiliate, even though I've not created my own product before, just wondering.
      I get between 7.5%-8% commission due to performance structure and how many items I sell (makes a huge difference). I haven't considered this cause I have no idea what I'd write about and how I would market it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Hi Ashera,

    You mentioned the structure of your reviews i.e. intro, description, benefits etc. Do you use a table of features for all the reviewed products for each review post? Have you found that bullet points work better than paragraphs of text on the review posts?

    Thanks.

    Jodie
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  • Profile picture of the author coldshot
    Hi Ashera

    Great info for us peeps who are still struggling to make some dough from Amazon.

    Do we need to let Amazo know all the sites we are using our aff links on?

    Do you also use any Amazon Link localizer?

    Tks!
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  • Profile picture of the author derprinz
    Congratulations bro, that's really inspiring
    What's the minimum price you start with please ?
    and what about the Penguin, your sites passed it ?
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    • Profile picture of the author sarasayshi
      Originally Posted by derprinz View Post

      Congratulations bro, that's really inspiring
      What's the minimum price you start with please ?
      I am also curious about this.
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        Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

        I am also curious about this.
        I normally don't write a review for anything under $35.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    1. The blog network is on separate hosts in order to increase its value. 50 backlinks from 1 IP is nowhere near as powerful as 50 backlinks from 50 ips.
    You said earlier that hosting costs you around $300/month. Would using SEO hosting which uses seperate C-class IP addresses be as powerful or do you need a seperate hosting account entirely for each domain in your blog network?

    The price is around $200/month for 50 C-class IP's although its still $100/month cheaper which is quite a lot. http://www.seohost.com/dedicated-c-class-ip-hosting.html
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    what products do you sell?
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Wow, this is such a great, informative thread. Thanks a lot for responding to everyone's questions. There are some people who will post about their success and then will abandon the thread (can't say as I can blame them too much since it does take a lot of time). Your dedication is really appreciated.

    Could you help me to understand something better? I know you covered keywords, but I read the posts and for some reason am still unclear.

    You posted:
    I personally don't ever try to rank for specific product keywords, as I've had little success with them. But keywords like "best x for y" "x reviews" "x for y". Even if the top 10 are all aged authority sites - if the BLP (back links to page) is weak then I go for it.
    What do the "x" and "y" represent?

    Are you trying to target keywords that are only product categories (i.e. "best coffee maker reviews)", or will you also go after "Bunn coffee maker reviews." Also, will you use specific brand names and/or models in your posts/reviews, or are those generic as well?

    Sorry if I'm making you explain something that you've already said, by maybe if you could give some specific examples of targeted keywords/post titles I could better understand what you're talking about. Obviously I'm not asking for ones you are using, but maybe you could use a keyword that you passed up ranking for or that's in a niche you don't compete in as an example?

    Thank you so much for the inspiration and education!
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    WOOOOOW! Yeah Man you're doing a really great job here. This thread here worth more than anything else. AWESOME n Thank you!!

    I am now working on amazon review site, and the info here are really useful. Can I send you a PM if I have any questions about amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Guys, taking a few days off from this thread, and WF. Lost a little feline member of my family last night and it's taking a toll.

    I'll answer all questions when I come back to the internet.
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      Sorry to hear that, Ashera...
      We all respect your privacy in this hard time.


      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      Guys, taking a few days off from this thread, and WF. Lost a little feline member of my family last night and it's taking a toll.

      I'll answer all questions when I come back to the internet.
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        Sorry to hear that
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    Sorry to hear that
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    Insanely good thread! Took me 3 days to go all through this
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  • Profile picture of the author makemoneyinlife
    great story, keep up the good work, but still adsense over amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author EdKirby
    I just read the entire thread, great stuff! I did Amazon aff. stuff a few years ago then my state in their infinite wisdom decided to mess with Amazon and I lost my affiliate status. But after reading this thread I may be setting up shop across the state line and give this a go again.

    Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author phans
      reall great thread!
      actually adsense and amazon work both great for me!

      my first amazon website is kinda funny i just bought an domain and made a 1000 wod review with pictures and everything and made really nearly no backlinking... for a couple weeks i just let the website go and than take a look at my amazon sales and was quite suprised! the site makes like 50-60$ last month with only ranking for oney keyword that has a couple hundred searches per month... but if you make reviews of like 1000 words and like you said make the review personal people really love it, read it and click on the amazon links! you are also getting a lot long tail traffic btw

      i am looking forward to scale it up big time!


      just one question:
      while building more and more sites... as much as i am concern your are only allowed to use 100 photos form amazon products per account (if you work via api i think 300)
      what will you do when you reach this limit? this is something i don't really have an answer for yet
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by phans View Post

        just one question:
        while building more and more sites... as much as i am concern your are only allowed to use 100 photos form amazon products per account (if you work via api i think 300)
        what will you do when you reach this limit? this is something i don't really have an answer for yet
        Where did you hear you can only use 100 photos per account? Are you getting confused with tracking IDs? It's tracking IDs that are limited to 100.
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          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          Are you getting confused with tracking IDs? It's tracking IDs that are limited to 100.
          That sounds more like it.. you can request to get those increased too.
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    WOW !!!!!!!!!!! this is great !!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author star007
    Ashera,
    thank you for your comments. I am just beginning to build my blog network and had thought of course to put adsense on them. I think, after reading some of the comments, that I will focus on amazon affiliate products instead...it seems to be one of the best ways to get the most bang for my productive buck!
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  • Profile picture of the author alfid
    Where does you traffic come from and how exactly do you run the amazon sites? Are they like just product reviews with your affiliate link or what?
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    Ashera,

    Congratz for your success!

    Persistence is the key to success in the online business.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Sorry I have not been answering questions- kind of strayed away from WF for the last few weeks and have been working hard building new sites and ranking some of my other ones.

    Todays results of my hard work and dedication over the last few years:

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  • Profile picture of the author markviduk86
    How many visitor visit your the website is giving you the most profit ? and the local searches per month is how many ?
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  • Profile picture of the author John BR
    Just looking at the screenshot before reading anything itself is jaw dropping enough for me. What an inspiration for everyone! Hard work does indeed pay off in the end. I guess not just working hard but working smartly is the need of the marketing times now.

    Great stuff. All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author the_viking
    Thanks for a great thread, Ashera. I have a question about you private blog network. I have just started building my own network of blogspot.com, weebly.com and wordpress.com blogs. Do you build several links to your money site from each blog? For example, every fifth post you create a link to your money site and a link to an authority site.
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    this great, its motivation for me. Thank for suggestion.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    I completely agree that Amazon is way better than Adsense - at least now that I've read this post.

    I just built a hybrid website, which isn't ranked yet, but I got some referral traffic from a site in my target market. 240 visits, 1 adsense click for .54. I got 22 clicks on my Amazon links, with just one sale. That one sale was 3 times the commission than the one adsense click.

    Small sample size, yes...but I have found my amazon links are highly targeted whereas Adsense can barely display the right ads to my target market.

    Great post Ashera and inspiring to those of us just starting to play with Amazon/Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Blue445nm
    I wanted to ask this -

    Have you tried combining adsense and amazon?

    Does your sales go down on amazon if you combine 1 ad of adsense on the page or does it stay the same for you?

    If it stays the same I would consider placing both on mine.
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      Originally Posted by Blue445nm View Post

      I wanted to ask this -

      Have you tried combining adsense and amazon?

      Does your sales go down on amazon if you combine 1 ad of adsense on the page or does it stay the same for you?

      If it stays the same I would consider placing both on mine.
      I think that was the entire point...his profit ROSE after he got rid of Adsense altogether.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Ashera,

    What do you average per day and/or month if you don't mind sharing? Looks like you're having big days but is that the norm?

    And are you building a list and getting repeat visitors to your sites?
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      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Ashera,

      What do you average per day and/or month if you don't mind sharing? Looks like you're having big days but is that the norm?

      And are you building a list and getting repeat visitors to your sites?
      Monthly payout is about 20k now, probably average around $650 a day. Some worse days and some better days. I notice on Sundays I often have my best days, but randomly some sites will rank for a ton of long tails and bring me in a huge influx of traffic.

      I do see some returning visitors - I don't build lists as I don't see a point to it for my particular niches.

      Another interesting note - I rarely see more than 3 items returned each month because all the products on all my sites I have done deep investigation into to make sure they are quality, reliable, and well reviewed by previous buyers.
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    Asheera,

    Had a chance to go back through your thread again and had a few more questions (overlooked a few key points the first 1 or 2 go around):

    1. I know you stated in your OP that you got between 40-150 unique visitors per day and in a post that after 50 clicks on your Amazon links you get 2-6 sales, if you don't mind answering what's your click through rate for your Amazon links?

    It's got to be pretty high on 40-150 visitors per day and it sounds like your conversion rate is anywhere from 2% upward to 12%.

    2. When you're "taking on a persona" do you go as far as to include an 'About Me' page or little blurb in the sidebar including picture or you don't go that far when creating a persona?

    3. You stated that your rankings are mostly due to your own private blog network, for someone just starting creating their own private network and who doesn't have a lot of money what would you recommend they do?

    And is it important that the sites in the network have age and PR or can you still see pretty decent results with sites in a network that are fairly new and have no PR (just yet)? Or is the key that your network already has aged domains with PR?
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      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Asheera,

      Had a chance to go back through your thread again and had a few more questions (overlooked a few key points the first 1 or 2 go around):

      1. I know you stated in your OP that you got between 40-150 unique visitors per day and in a post that after 50 clicks on your Amazon links you get 2-6 sales, if you don't mind answering what's your click through rate for your Amazon links?

      It's got to be pretty high on 40-150 visitors per day and it sounds like your conversion rate is anywhere from 2% upward to 12%.

      2. When you're "taking on a persona" do you go as far as to include an 'About Me' page or little blurb in the sidebar including picture or you don't go that far when creating a persona?

      3. You stated that your rankings are mostly due to your own private blog network, for someone just starting creating their own private network and who doesn't have a lot of money what would you recommend they do?

      And is it important that the sites in the network have age and PR or can you still see pretty decent results with sites in a network that are fairly new and have no PR (just yet)? Or is the key that your network already has aged domains with PR?
      1. CTR is 8-9%

      2. I usually do a sidebar "About me" with a stock photo that I am licensed to use, but looks legit.

      3. I started out ranking without it - so it can be done, just takes longer and is more difficult, it's just something I've built over time after reinvesting profits. Age is important but PR updates are so frequent (every 3-4 months) that it's not a big deal. Patience has been key for me, but a good variety is helpful.

      Originally Posted by jwmann2 View Post

      I have had little success with Amazon but then again I don't own nearly as many websites as you do. How did you accumulate so many? Do you have your Amazon deposited directly into your bank account or do you receive monthly checks?
      Directly into bank account.

      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Ashera,

      When you place links to your sites on your web 2.0 articles and articles on your blog network, how much do you vary the anchor text? Do you aim for a specific ratio of using generic keywords and keywords you intend to rank for? You said you didn't get hit by Penguin, so I guess your anchor text must be pretty diverse.
      It's INCREDIBLY diverse. Honestly probably only 15-20 percent of my anchor texts are my main targeted keywords, 20 percent are a few other ones that I use consistently, and 60 percent are all over the place.

      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      Hello Ashera,

      The post plugin you use "amazon product in a post" automatically updates the product price or you've got to do something else to make sure the post always show/link to the right price???

      Regards,
      It automatically updates - it's great.
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    Ashera,

    When you place links to your sites on your web 2.0 articles and articles on your blog network, how much do you vary the anchor text? Do you aim for a specific ratio of using generic keywords and keywords you intend to rank for? You said you didn't get hit by Penguin, so I guess your anchor text must be pretty diverse.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Hello Ashera,

    The post plugin you use "amazon product in a post" automatically updates the product price or you've got to do something else to make sure the post always show/link to the right price???

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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    Hi Ashera

    First of congratulations on the hard work and dedication you have put in to achieve your success. Good things come to those that work, not wait!

    My question today is about building up a network of web2.0 vs a private blog network. Ok as I understand a private blog network is a network of blog websites you own all relevent to one niche. Each one of these blogs ideally has a good page rank established and a good backlink profile. From my understanding though you can't simply use a reseller hosting package as all your sites have the same ip and google can see your network and penalise all your sites. So you have to buy a hosting package for each site from different hosting providers ideally and this in turns work out quite expensive.

    My question is can't the same be achieved for free using web 2.0 sites and if it can't why can't it? They are free to setup and all have there own ips. I can't see why you can't build them up to have page authority. I'm sure there is a reason this is less powerful then a private blog network otherwise you would not got to the hassle of setting one up but at this point im not aware of it.

    I look forward to your response
    Thank you in advance
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    • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
      Just curious how your income took such a jump in 2 weeks when you posted here that you were only making $700 a month from amazon?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

        Just curious how your income took such a jump in 2 weeks when you posted here that you were only making $700 a month from amazon?
        Uh-oh. Yeah, these two posts really don't jive.
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        • Profile picture of the author markowe
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Uh-oh. Yeah, these two posts really don't jive.
          You missed the edit to the OP:

          edit: May17th 2012 - I have around 40 strictly Amazon Sites now, I removed AdSense on all of them, started ranking some of my newer ones, and here are the results from today.
          So, he took all the Adsense off and Amazon sales went up, makes sense to me.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
            I saw that but on april 4th he posted that he was only making 700 a month from adsense and amazon then 2 weeks later he posted a screenshot from april 24th showing just under 400 a day, just seemed like a huge jump all of a sudden in 20 days to me, that's all...
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              Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

              I saw that but on april 4th he posted that he was only making 700 a month from adsense and amazon then 2 weeks later he posted a screenshot from april 24th showing just under 400 a day, just seemed like a huge jump all of a sudden in 20 days to me, that's all...
              Ah, I'm with you - well, I am sure OP can comment. And no, "I explain how in my WSO" won't count
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by markowe View Post

            You missed the edit to the OP:



            So, he took all the Adsense off and Amazon sales went up, makes sense to me.
            I don't know how you think it makes sense. $700/month is only about $23/day which is massive difference between $650/day. How can replacing Adsense make a $625/day increase unless you also had a huge increase in traffic, which isn't plausible to generate in such a short time considering that 90% of his traffic comes via SEO.
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            • Profile picture of the author markowe
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              I don't know how you think it makes sense. $700/month is only about $23/day which is massive difference between $650/day. How can replacing Adsense make a $625/day increase unless you also had a huge increase in traffic, which isn't plausible to generate in such a short time considering that 90% of his traffic comes via SEO.
              No, I get it now, I missed that other post. Let's see what OP says, shall we?
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          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Uh-oh. Yeah, these two posts really don't jive.
          Something else that doesn't jive.....he says he gets 40-150 visitors a day to a site, but only has an 8-9% ctr. That means on sites getting 100 visitors per day, 8 of them are clicking through to Amazon. Those 8 people must be buying a hell of a lot of stuff, lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
            Yet here he claims he has been doing this for 18 months?
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          • Profile picture of the author xiro25
            Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

            Something else that doesn't jive.....he says he gets 40-150 visitors a day to a site, but only has an 8-9% ctr. That means on sites getting 100 visitors per day, 8 of them are clicking through to Amazon. Those 8 people must be buying a hell of a lot of stuff, lol.
            He does sell some 300 dollar vaccumms. So at 100 visitors a day at 8 percent CTR to amazon that would 8 visitors but not everyone will buy something usually it has 15 percent conversion rate, could be higher though. But at 300 dollar vaccum that site could be making anywher from 15 to 50 dollars a day.
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        Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

        Just curious how your income took such a jump in 2 weeks when you posted here that you were only making $700 a month from amazon?
        With make-believe, anything is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Leighton
    Sounds like you've cracked it, nice work mate.

    Is there a particular theme or layout you find converting well?

    Are your sites typical product review sites or more authoritive and informative sites that include reviews and products in them?

    And last question...you ever go for exact match domains? Or more general domains relating to the keyword/s?

    Sorry if any of this has already been asked.
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    I can't wait to see your report. I have been following this thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    This kind of stuff is ruining Warrior Forum. I've seen it multiple times now in the last month or two. Seems to be happening more and more frequently. You know, a person comes on, makes huge claims (maybe not so huge), then makes a reference to an upcoming WSO or "report" or "PDF" and then gets exposed.

    I hope that's not the case here but I'm afraid there may be no other explanation. There is nothing that anyone can say to me (at least) that would convince me that a jump from $700/month to $700/day is feasible in three weeks.

    This is why I have resisted calls to do my own Amazon WSO and just opted to do my own series of low-cost tutorials instead. I'm not sure I want to be associated with the MMO WSO game. It's becoming VERY seedy.
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      This kind of stuff is ruining Warrior Forum. I've seen it multiple times now in the last month or two. Seems to be happening more and more frequently. You know, a person comes on, makes huge claims (maybe not so huge), then makes a reference to an upcoming WSO or "report" or "PDF" and then gets exposed.

      I hope that's not the case here but I'm afraid there may be no other explanation. There is nothing that anyone can say to me (at least) that would convince me that a jump from $700/month to $700/day is feasible in three weeks.

      This is why I have resisted calls to do my own Amazon WSO and just opted to do my own series of low-cost tutorials instead. I'm not sure I want to be associated with the MMO WSO game. It's becoming VERY seedy.
      "That" kind of stuff (I won't say "this", I am not saying that's the case here) has been a regular fixture around here for a long time Sometimes people get away with it, sometimes they don't!

      About WSOs, ha, I wrote a big guide about how I create and rank authority sites with not much effort, and then thought, "Why should I sell this info when it will make me much more money in the long-term if I keep it to myself"
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      This kind of stuff is ruining Warrior Forum. I've seen it multiple times now in the last month or two. Seems to be happening more and more frequently. You know, a person comes on, makes huge claims (maybe not so huge), then makes a reference to an upcoming WSO or "report" or "PDF" and then gets exposed.

      I hope that's not the case here but I'm afraid there may be no other explanation. There is nothing that anyone can say to me (at least) that would convince me that a jump from $700/month to $700/day is feasible in three weeks.

      This is why I have resisted calls to do my own Amazon WSO and just opted to do my own series of low-cost tutorials instead. I'm not sure I want to be associated with the MMO WSO game. It's becoming VERY seedy.
      Ashera's posts in this thread have been very helpful and detailed, but that does sound odd that he went from $700/month on 4th April to about $20k/month less than two months later especially when he said earlier in this thread that this has been 2 years in the making.

      Posted 4/4

      Originally Posted by Ashera

      AWESOME!!! I'm at about $700 a month via Amazon and Adsense and this inspires me.
      Posted 18/5

      Originally Posted by Ashera

      Monthly payout is about 20k now, probably average around $650 a day. Some worse days and some better days. I notice on Sundays I often have my best days, but randomly some sites will rank for a ton of long tails and bring me in a huge influx of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    That's the problem though. If this thread is indeed BS, how much of the "helpful" info can be deemed trustworthy or legit?
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  • Profile picture of the author ihasdiggs
    Thanks for the inspiration but I never earn any bucks from the Amazon and hence remove from the website, will you please teach how it's possible to generates money from amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author romeovic
    this is really encouraging....
    thanks for sharing this
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  • Profile picture of the author Lukas
    the 15 to 30 web 2.0s is a method many use. His 50+ blog network seems to be the difference.

    My question is: a unique email for each property?
    So 15 to 30 web2.0s that focus on 5mm widgets get 1 email address like (5mm at geemale) or 15 to 30 separate email addresses 1a,2a,3a,4a.... at geemale?
    I think footprint from algo can figure it out..so it is better to use Yahoo accts in this case or what do you recommend?

    Also, I hope the integrity of the OP money claim is still true since my Amazon ha to ramp up from loss in AS.
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    • Profile picture of the author xiro25
      yeah Interesting. The Op stated that he made 400 dollars on april 24th in one day and in one month doubled that to about 700 dollars in one day. Something seems off about this.

      I am interested to see how Ashera responds to these claims.
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  • Profile picture of the author Builder154
    Did Ashera say he made $700 or whatever it is per day regularly? Or did he just say he got a nice burst one day and made that and was saying he likes Amazon because you can get those lucky days now and then?
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    • Profile picture of the author xiro25
      Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

      Did Ashera say he made $700 or whatever it is per day regularly? Or did he just say he got a nice burst one day and made that and was saying he likes Amazon because you can get those lucky days now and then?

      He says he average around 650/day. when a month ago he made around 100 day. Not saying that it is impossible but those claims seem a little absurd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Just glanced through some of this - I have absolutely nothing to gain about making up ridiculous claims. I said if I ever created a WSO I would release it free to War Room Members... I added Amazon to a lot of my sites that had strictly Adsense in early or mid April and the numbers absolutely skyrocketed.



    Believe me or don't believe me, it doesn't effect me. I'm not here to to "take" anything from WF and I don't ever intend to sell anything on here related to Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    i dont think he is lieing. i think people see his success and feel insecure because they aren't on his level so start pointing the figure going nah i dont believe it its not realistic.

    Well before the plane was invented was it realistic that a chunk of metal could fly someone over the atlantic? Ashera ill repeat my question i think you missed it with all these negative ppl spaming your post

    Hi Ashera

    First of congratulations on the hard work and dedication you have put in to achieve your success. Good things come to those that work, not wait!

    My question today is about building up a network of web2.0 vs a private blog network. Ok as I understand a private blog network is a network of blog websites you own all relevent to one niche. Each one of these blogs ideally has a good page rank established and a good backlink profile. From my understanding though you can't simply use a reseller hosting package as all your sites have the same ip and google can see your network and penalise all your sites. So you have to buy a hosting package for each site from different hosting providers ideally and this in turns work out quite expensive.

    My question is can't the same be achieved for free using web 2.0 sites and if it can't why can't it? They are free to setup and all have there own ips. I can't see why you can't build them up to have page authority. I'm sure there is a reason this is less powerful then a private blog network otherwise you would not got to the hassle of setting one up but at this point im not aware of it.

    I look forward to your response
    Thank you in advance
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

      i dont think he is lieing. i think people see his success and feel insecure because they aren't on his level so start pointing the figure going nah i dont believe it its not realistic.
      Hey man, I am one of the skeptics. If you want to take what some random guy on a message forum says on his word, that's your prerogative. If you want to believe that it's probable that someone went from $700/month to $700/day in a month's time without even questioning anything (despite reading some of the facts as posted by others), that's also your prerogative.

      It is asinine to say people feel insecure just because they are not as trusting as you are and are smart enough to question inconsistencies. I am very successful with Amazon and have a high paying "day job" that I absolutely love so what have I got to feel "insecure about"?

      That said, I appreciate Ashera's willingness to respond to the questioning in a civil fashion. He was also kind enough to answer a PM or two from me.

      There is nothing wrong with people questioning inconsistencies (real or perceived). If more people did that, there would be fewer "Make $3,000,000 by tomorrow morning by pressing this button!" WSOs.

      Thank you Ashera for answering your skeptics.
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      • Profile picture of the author codecreative
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Hey man, I am one of the skeptics. If you want to take what some random guy on a message forum says on his word, that's your prerogative. If you want to believe that it's probable that someone went from $700/month to $700/day in a month's time without even questioning anything (despite reading some of the facts as posted by others), that's also your prerogative.

        It is asinine to say people feel insecure just because they are not as trusting as you are and are smart enough to question inconsistencies. I am very successful with Amazon and have a high paying "day job" that I absolutely love so what have I got to feel "insecure about"?

        That said, I appreciate Ashera's willingness to respond to the questioning in a civil fashion. He was also kind enough to answer a PM or two from me.

        There is nothing wrong with people questioning inconsistencies (real or perceived). If more people did that, there would be fewer "Make $3,000,000 by tomorrow morning by pressing this button!" WSOs.

        Thank you Ashera for answering your skeptics.
        It was my intention to contribute civilised response apologies if it didn't come across in that way. I am an optimistic type of person and like to believe in individuals successes as it gives me motivation to believe it is possible. I can understand why people are sceptical as Asheras earnings are vast. In general though when people mention there successes I have noticed there is always a band of skeptics that ridicule them. I'm not saying your one and if you have experience working with amazon as an affiliate I'm sure your points are well validated.

        When looking at Asheras posts in the forum he seems to contribute knowledgeable posts and he has stated several times in this thread he has no commercial intent with regards to a wso and any pdf he would release would be free. At this point I can't see his motive for wanting to fabricate everything and he has gone into a fine degree of detail with his posts and responses. I suppose no one can ever know 100% for sure either way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
        Codecreative, since I'm the one that started the controversy let me respond, I didn't accuse him of anything, just asked a question out of curiosity due to some of his other posts he had made previously where things didn't add up to me..

        For you to assume that some of us who may have doubted Ashera, are insecure because we are not on his level, is very narrow minded. I have been in IM since 1998 fulltime, and make a very good living online, and support 3 kids as a single parent doing so.

        My main concerns were, he only registered on this forum of December of last year, then here he has posted on April 4th that he was only making 700 a month from Amazon and adsense.

        April 6th he posted here that he has paying SEO client and 40 domains that make between 3 to 40 a day, that still doesn't add up to the affiliate income he claimed..
        April 7 he posted here that he has been building affiliate sites for 3 years and revealed one of his niches, so from the first post to the last one the income didnt make sense from only making $700 to???.. The facts were all over the place..
        I didn't accuse him of anything just asked a curious question...

        For what it's worth I am tired of people making false claims on here and other forums, it just makes the who IM game seem shady when it really isn't.. Its a great way to make money and give you the lifestyle you want if you are willing to work for it.. Too many people scam those who can least afford it, I know Ashera wasn't marketing anything yet, just the facts didn't add up..
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

          Codecreative, since I'm the one that started the controversy let me respond, I didn't accuse him of anything, just asked a question out of curiosity due to some of his other posts he had made previously where things didn't add up to me..

          For you to assume that some of us who may have doubted Ashera, are insecure because we are not on his level, is very narrow minded. I have been in IM since 1998 fulltime, and make a very good living online, and support 3 kids as a single parent doing so.

          My main concerns were, he only registered on this forum of December of last year, then here he has posted on April 4th that he was only making 700 a month from Amazon and adsense.

          April 6th he posted here that he has paying SEO client and 40 domains that make between 3 to 40 a day, that still doesn't add up to the affiliate income he claimed..
          April 7 he posted here that he has been building affiliate sites for 3 years and revealed one of his niches, so from the first post to the last one the income didnt make sense from only making $700 to???.. The facts were all over the place..
          I didn't accuse him of anything just asked a curious question...

          For what it's worth I am tired of people making false claims on here and other forums, it just makes the who IM game seem shady when it really isn't.. Its a great way to make money and give you the lifestyle you want if you are willing to work for it.. Too many people scam those who can least afford it, I know Ashera wasn't marketing anything yet, just the facts didn't add up..
          So april 4th he was making $700/month and april 6th he makes a minimum of $3600,-/month ($3/day *40 sites = $120 * 30 days = $3600,-). And a month later he makes $21.000/month (30 days * $700,-)

          Quiet impressive, especially considering he ranked top 3 for most of his kw's already. Must be one heck of an SEO'er to have driven all kw's up in the top 3 and a ton more kw's to make such huge increase in income
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          Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

          Codecreative, since I'm the one that started the controversy let me respond, I didn't accuse him of anything, just asked a question out of curiosity due to some of his other posts he had made previously where things didn't add up to me..

          For you to assume that some of us who may have doubted Ashera, are insecure because we are not on his level, is very narrow minded. I have been in IM since 1998 fulltime, and make a very good living online, and support 3 kids as a single parent doing so.

          My main concerns were, he only registered on this forum of December of last year, then here he has posted on April 4th that he was only making 700 a month from Amazon and adsense.

          April 6th he posted here that he has paying SEO client and 40 domains that make between 3 to 40 a day, that still doesn't add up to the affiliate income he claimed..
          April 7 he posted here that he has been building affiliate sites for 3 years and revealed one of his niches, so from the first post to the last one the income didnt make sense from only making $700 to???.. The facts were all over the place..
          I didn't accuse him of anything just asked a curious question...
          Look folks, this post from earlier in the thread explains why some are skeptical. When you see facts that seem to contradict one another, it only makes sense to question things.

          Is he lying? I don't know. I do know that the facts and timelines seem a bit odd, that's all. Each person will have to judge for himself.
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      • Profile picture of the author sweetkate
        Where did he write that he was making $700 per month? Was that in another thread. If so, can you link to it so I can see it? I read all his posts on this thread and didn't read anywhere about him earning $700 per. month. I did find however in a months time that he went close from $400 per. day to $700 per day. That is not a big difference in a months time since he has over 40 sites and he took the adsense off his sites.


        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Hey man, I am one of the skeptics. If you want to take what some random guy on a message forum says on his word, that's your prerogative. If you want to believe that it's probable that someone went from $700/month to $700/day in a month's time without even questioning anything (despite reading some of the facts as posted by others), that's also your prerogative.

        It is asinine to say people feel insecure just because they are not as trusting as you are and are smart enough to question inconsistencies. I am very successful with Amazon and have a high paying "day job" that I absolutely love so what have I got to feel "insecure about"?

        That said, I appreciate Ashera's willingness to respond to the questioning in a civil fashion. He was also kind enough to answer a PM or two from me.

        There is nothing wrong with people questioning inconsistencies (real or perceived). If more people did that, there would be fewer "Make $3,000,000 by tomorrow morning by pressing this button!" WSOs.

        Thank you Ashera for answering your skeptics.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by sweetkate View Post

          Where did he write that he was making $700 per month? Was that in another thread. If so, can you link to it so I can see it? I read all his posts on this thread and didn't read anywhere about him earning $700 per. month. I did find however in a months time that he went close from $400 per. day to $700 per day. That is not a big difference in a months time since he has over 40 sites and he took the adsense off his sites.
          Search his previous posts. Did you read this whole thread? Some other members quoted him earlier in this thread and already provided links.
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          • Profile picture of the author sweetkate
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            Search his previous posts. Did you read this whole thread? Some other members quoted him earlier in this thread and already provided links.
            Yes I read this whole thread page by page and didn't see the links you talked about. I will look once more. I found your website where you have amazon tutorials. Do you also provide a link to one of your sites for us to look at to compare to our sites or a future one we can make? Thank you!!
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by sweetkate View Post

              Yes I read this whole thread page by page and didn't see the links you talked about. I will look once more. I found your website where you have amazon tutorials. Do you also provide a link to one of your sites for us to look at to compare to our sites or a future one we can make? Thank you!!
              I don't want to make this a bash Ashera session but these are the links im talking about:

              http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6281105

              I do not provide my live sites as examples for several different reasons. However, my Amazon website tutorial does provide a full-page diagram of how I set my most of my own sites up.
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              • Profile picture of the author sodomojo
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                I don't want to make this a bash Ashera session but these are the links im talking about:

                http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6281105

                I do not provide my live sites as examples for several different reasons. However, my Amazon website tutorial does provide a full-page diagram of how I set my most of my own sites up.
                Wolf-How much do you make from Amazon now? How many sites?
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by Tydowns View Post

                  Wolf-How much do you make from Amazon now? How many sites?
                  I don't discuss exact numbers but I make 4 figures per month from a handful of active sites a few small autoblogs and a few sites that appear/disappear from the SERPs on what seems to be a monthly basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jhangora
    I stumbled upon this thread yesterday and took a look again today. Been full time in affiliate marketing for two and a half years now. Was making a few hundred dollars for the first two years, making a few thousand for the past 6 months. Would like to progress to the five figures before this year ends.

    What I have realized from my experience is that it is the approach which matters not just how much work one puts in. I concentrate on CPA health offers and did experiment with Amazon and Adsense. Like most other Amazon affiliates I used to think it isn't possible to make money with the program. However, I did experiment with blogging about the supplements recommended by Dr. Oz and had some success with Amazon and Adsense.

    It is difficult to keep up with that guy and I think setting up static sites might be a better idea. Ultimately it is the traffic which matters. If one can attract loads of it revenue will follow. Finetuning the sites and monetizing methods will increase the $$$.

    I have had a look at the comments made by the skeptics in the thread. After going through all the information I'd have to say Ashera seems a genuine person and is just trying to motivate other affiliates. Though I am not as successful as him - I know the feeling. One wants to help others who are scratching their heads trying to figure out how to make money on the net. There is nothing wrong with that.

    Thanx a lot for the information Ashera and hope you are able to achieve 6 figure monthly earnings soon
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    Kudos to you Ladyboss. I actually first started earning money from affiliate marketing way back in 1999 so I got onboard just a little over a year after you. Back in the days of altavista, hotbot, mirc, lycos and when yahoo was the best place to get your organic traffic and I was doing well. Wasn't it easy back then!


    Unfortunately I've been out of the game for years now as my career path went down a different road but it has done full circle and now I’m back to internet marketing trying to pick up the baton again from where I left and of course a lot has changed.


    As said in my previous post if I came across as uncivil or even narrow minded once again my apologies.
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    Thanks for all the information, but I feel like you need to be really good to start a project like yours.
    I have a few questions if you don’t mind.
    1. How many products are you referencing in your site?
    2. Do you use more than one persona per site?
    3. How many pages per site?
    4. When choosing Domain name, how to you go about it.
    Do you use the category of the product, EX: www.bestvaccums.com
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  • Profile picture of the author BDE4Live
    I just saw Ladyboss post.
    It looks like it is always the same story in this forums, thanks for the detective work.
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    Thanks for all the information
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  • Profile picture of the author jt47000
    Hey Ashera, Congrats to all yor success!!!

    Got a quick question for you. do your sites usually consist of 10,000-20,000 words per micro niche site?

    or

    do they usually run only about 500 words and a mainpage?

    Thanks bro!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    So much speculation it's incredible. If you already have 40 sites built with content and you see a huge rank increase in a short amount of time- then add Amazon to them, what do you think is going to happen? Giant profit increases. Why in the world would I make up numbers... what do I have to gain? I don't understand it - I have never sold anything on WF and don't intend to, nor have I ever tried to offer any type of paid coaching to anyone who has pm'ed me asking me questions.





    just two examples of outstanding traffic growth...

    Like I said- believe me or don't believe me - it has absolutely zero effect on me. My only intent of this thread was to help others - not gain anything. Disregard everything I say if it makes you sleep better at night instead or just continue to attempt find every little nuance to poke and prod at.
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  • Profile picture of the author eXthus
    Great work mate, I've never looked into Amazon affiliates, but after seeing how well you are doing with it, I think i'll take a look.

    Keep up the good work!
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Okay looks impressive. Don't get me wrong but I guess you understand it are some bold claims to go from $700/month to the same per day. So not very surprising people put their question marks.

      We've seen it too many times at forums, people have a great success story and the next week there is some fluff WSO about it.

      Props to you for not selling some WSO or paid coaching, no need to with such success anyway. It are always the people who have achieved nothing who start up wso's, well at least 98% of the time.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I'm with nik0 with this. It happens alot.

    Ashera...Don't take it personally. If you are that successful with it, it really doesn't matter what skeptics say anyway. Just keep doing what you are doing if you are successful at it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chrisbroholm
    I think your advice has been solid Ashera, so I don't really care if you make $700 per day or $700 per month.

    I do believe though that going from $700 a month to $20,000 per month is a little more than a giant increase, it's a 30 fold increase!

    Thanks for providing all this great information, I enjoyed it.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Ashera thanks for share your great story here!

    My noob questions;

    1.What is the difference in keywords to use for amazon than adsense? Can you give me an example so that I have an idea?

    Also a keyword like this; vacuum cleaners reviews works better for amazon than a keyword like this; pink cat collars???

    2. How do you build your site, btw; where you put the amazon carousel? Above the fold on your product review page or in the sidebar...?
    or you put product images with a buy now button/link above the fold?

    3.Is ist better to put my product site links in the main menue than in the sidebar (higher ctr)?

    4. How you build your sites like best vacuum cleaner reviews? Do you have as example 5 or more product sites like this;

    aaa vacuum clener review
    bbb vacuum cleaner review
    ccc vacuum cleaner review

    and so on, so like adsense product sites?
    And least, I think for good conversion rates, the product review must be top notch,not like little generic, who is enough to make money with adsense??

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author SK123
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      Ashera thanks for share your great story here!

      My noob questions;

      1.What is the difference in keywords to use for amazon than adsense? Can you give me an example so that I have an idea?

      Also a keyword like this; vacuum cleaners reviews works better for amazon than a keyword like this; pink cat collars???

      2. How do you build your site, btw; where you put the amazon carousel? Above the fold on your product review page or in the sidebar...?
      or you put product images with a buy now button/link above the fold?

      3.Is ist better to put my product site links in the main menue than in the sidebar (higher ctr)?

      4. How you build your sites like best vacuum cleaner reviews? Do you have as example 5 or more product sites like this;

      aaa vacuum clener review
      bbb vacuum cleaner review
      ccc vacuum cleaner review

      and so on, so like adsense product sites?
      And least, I think for good conversion rates, the product review must be top notch,not like little generic, who is enough to make money with adsense??

      best wishes
      marco005
      Ashera,
      I appreciate the way you attempt to respond to the questions raised in this thread- all in your attempts at encouraging/inspiring fellow warriors.

      Above is a set of questions raised by Marco- what do you have to say on these? ( many others could benefit too!)
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  • Profile picture of the author bbradford71
    I am not trying to steal anyone's secrets but am curious, I have several adsense sites up that are now starting to generate some decent traffic, so I am hopeful that earnings will increase. Do you set up a Amazon affiliate site like you would a adsense site (niche) or is it a site that is more like a ecommerce site?


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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    My Amazon sites are all more like e-commerce sites rather than AdSense-like.
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  • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
    My grip with Amazon is how short they track cookies. My site is about big ticket items and people usually buy in 3-5 days after they begin researching it. By that time, Amazon doesn't pay. They should have a 30-45 day tracking cookie like other affiliates.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Long cookie durations are open to cheating/spamming/stuffing. I know this from experience. I used to make five figures per month from EPN with a cool little trick. I was literally make upwards of $500 per day almost overnight.

    By offering a short cookie duration, your affiliates are almost forced to stay above board since spamming and cookie stuffing is far less effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author bbradford71
    Quick question for the experts here, is it best to build a site that is reviewing several different products all within the same category such as cameras or is it better to focus on a single item?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by bbradford71 View Post

      Quick question for the experts here, is it best to build a site that is reviewing several different products all within the same category such as cameras or is it better to focus on a single item?

      Thanks
      Build an authority site in one niche. For example, build a site around Lawnmowers and provide reviews of several different lawnmowers. You might also want a section on related items (weedwackers or lawn-care stuff)
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      • Profile picture of the author carsonben
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Build an authority site in one niche. For example, build a site around Lawnmowers and provide reviews of several different lawnmowers. You might also want a section on related items (weedwackers or lawn-care stuff)

        When you say "reviews" are you using posted Amazon reviews or are you coming up with your own from elsewhere?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by carsonben View Post

          When you say "reviews" are you using posted Amazon reviews or are you coming up with your own from elsewhere?
          Aside from my handful of autoblogs, I never scrape Amazon reviews. My best performing sites all consist of manually written content created by me.
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  • Profile picture of the author bbradford71
    How is it you can write 5-10 reviews a day and they are believable? I guess I don't understand how a buyer can go to a site and see all these reviews written by the same person in a single day and for all these different products and beleive the reviews are legitimate.


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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by bbradford71 View Post

      How is it you can write 5-10 reviews a day and they are believable? I guess I don't understand how a buyer can go to a site and see all these reviews written by the same person in a single day and for all these different products and beleive the reviews are legitimate.


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      5-10 reviews per day is not all that many depending on how you are presenting them. I "can" do that many but I'm typically too lazy to do so. Researching a product's features, reading a handful of existing reviews, and comparing it to another similar product doesn't require all that much effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author bbradford71
    agreed, I guess my point is that I as a buyer would never believe 10 different reviews written by one person about a single product.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by bbradford71 View Post

      agreed, I guess my point is that I as a buyer would never believe 10 different reviews written by one person about a single product.
      Oh, I agree. If I come across a site that shows 10 reviews of the same product from the same person, I'd just hit the "back" button.

      However, I'd have no problem with the same person providing reviews of several different related products.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidreid
    Hi,

    Congrats on your success I was wondering what kind of domains you buy when you setup a new site? Do you include the keyword/product you are going for or do you take on the role of the persona you were talking about?
    E.g bradstoolshed com/net etc...

    Cheers

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  • Profile picture of the author iwanlee
    Hi Ashera,

    Congrats on your huge sales so inspiring for me

    Cheers
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  • Profile picture of the author computermesh
    Ashera, sorry for all the bashing going on in your thread. Shame. Either way, I believe you. Inspiration for me. I've read through the entire 6 pages and still have a few questions when your not busy if you could PM me?
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  • Profile picture of the author jaudet
    Hi Ashera,

    first of all congrats on all your efforts and online income you were able to generate with amazon.

    I just want to let you know that I would be more than interested in knowing more about how to implement the websites, type of content you put in (reviews maybe with an associate link?) etc.

    Would it be logical to say that the way you put an online website for amazon associate products is the same than for adsense (niche, popular products, SEO opt. build link etc) except that instead of putting adsense, you put your associate links ?

    You must be proud of you. I would be more than happy to be in your situation. With work, I think it is possible. Can't wait for your guide you were talking about.

    Good job man! Keep up the good work.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
    Hi Ashera,
    Congrats for your earning! I hope to have the same success as you. Just some questions for you, my traffic per day for my Amazon site is about 300+ and about 40-50 clicks to Amazon each day but my conversion rate in Amazon till today is only about 1.84%. Anything I can do to improve my conversion rates in Amazon? I would gladly hear your advice
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    • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
      Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post

      Hi Ashera,
      Congrats for your earning! I hope to have the same success as you. Just some questions for you, my traffic per day for my Amazon site is about 300+ and about 40-50 clicks to Amazon each day but my conversion rate in Amazon till today is only about 1.84%. Anything I can do to improve my conversion rates in Amazon? I would gladly hear your advice
      Hi Wolfmmiii,
      Anything I can do to improve the conversion rates?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post

        Hi Wolfmmiii,
        Anything I can do to improve the conversion rates?
        Hi Yusuke...

        The key to improved conversion rates really is catching people in the late stages of the buying cycle. This, in turn, means you need to target phrase that you'd search for if you were ready to buy something.

        When I jump into a niche, I put myself in a buyer's shoes and ask myself what terms I'd use if I wanted to by a specific item. I then target those terms.

        I will say your CTR is kind of low. For every 300 visitors I get to my sites (as a whole), I typically see 75-125 affiliate link clicks (25% - 40% CTR). This can usually be remedied with better link placement and/or better reviews.
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        • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Hi Yusuke...

          The key to improved conversion rates really is catching people in the late stages of the buying cycle. This, in turn, means you need to target phrase that you'd search for if you were ready to buy something.

          When I jump into a niche, I put myself in a buyer's shoes and ask myself what terms I'd use if I wanted to by a specific item. I then target those terms.

          I will say your CTR is kind of low. For every 300 visitors I get to my sites (as a whole), I typically see 75-125 affiliate link clicks (25% - 40% CTR). This can usually be remedied with better link placement and/or better reviews.
          Hi wolfmmiii,

          Thanks for the advice, my CTR is a little low probably because on my review page, I usually put only about 3 links(2 amazon buy button, 1 image). Will I be penalise if I put more affiliate links on my review page? How many is consider more? My review page is usually around 750 - 1000 words.

          One more question, at which part of your website do you usually put your links?

          Thanks & Regards,
          Yusuke
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        • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Hi Yusuke...


          I will say your CTR is kind of low. For every 300 visitors I get to my sites (as a whole), I typically see 75-125 affiliate link clicks (25% - 40% CTR). This can usually be remedied with better link placement and/or better reviews.
          Wow, that's an impressive CTR...no wonder you're doing well with this...

          Very targeted...

          Phil
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

            Wow, that's an impressive CTR...no wonder you're doing well with this...

            Very targeted...

            Phil
            Yep. The CTR on my Web 2.0 sites is generally in the 10% - 20% range while my websites typically do much better, depending on the site. Some sites do better than others, depending on the content I'm using.

            I think a big part of it is the fact that I target products that very few others are targeting.
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    Props to you Ashera congrats on your success.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I hope google will not crush down/ deindex amazon niche sites (only made with amazon sites), excuse my little bit of paranoia.

    @wolfmmiii, is it better to have an emd domain or a little bit personally something like this;wolfs(productkeyword)reviews or www.productkeyword-wolfsreviews??

    best wishes
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        In my opinion, EMDs are just awful. They are very rarely brandable and more often than not, they look spammy.

        My **** provides an overview of exactly how I build my own sites and why I do the things I do.
        I have plenty of EMD's that have quite high conversions, and rank quite well- btw this isn't the thread to peddle your products.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

          I have plenty of EMD's that have quite high conversions, and rank quite well- btw this isn't the thread to peddle your products.
          EMDs are mostly spammy looking. I am entitled to opinion and my signature. I was asked about something in my signature and I answered it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Ashera rocks! ...Wolfmmimiii, there are several ways to make money with amazon, you've got your way, Ashera got his way, that's why he's making more money than you,please don't get me wrong,we appreciate your comments and suggestions too ...But I think the main reason he's making this money is his blog network.
    It would be a great if he'd make a pdf or post about how to build a blog network.The only thing I know you need some heck of money to invest on it.

    Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      Ashera rocks! ...Wolfmmimiii, there are several ways to make money with amazon, you've got your way, Ashera got his way, that's why he's making more money than you,please don't get me wrong,we appreciate your comments and suggestions too ...But I think the main reason he's making this money is his blog network.
      It would be a great if he'd make a pdf or post about how to build a blog network.The only thing I know you need some heck of money to invest on it.

      Regards,
      I don't recall questioning Ashera's methods. I do, however, recall someone asking me directly what my opinion on EMDs is. Are you suggesting that my answer to that question is some sort of an attack on Ashera's methods?

      Can you please point out where I specifically questioned Ashera's method aside from answers I've given to questions directed at me?

      The only thing I do recall are some questionable inconsistencies in his story (which others were first to point out).
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  • Profile picture of the author Dumkist
    Hi Ashera,

    Can you please create a wso and teach us all how you did this please ?..I will be the first to buy ?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I only use 3 affiliate links in most cases but my reviews are typically much shorter (300-500 words).
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    • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      I only use 3 affiliate links in most cases but my reviews are typically much shorter (300-500 words).
      Hi,

      Another question for you, let say if I want to make $1000 per month from one Amazon website, is it doable? Or I need to have a lot of them to be making $1000 per month?

      By the way, I am very happy to hit my first $100 per month from Amazon today! Although it is not life changing but I am still very happy!
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post

        Hi,

        Another question for you, let say if I want to make $1000 per month from one Amazon website, is it doable? Or I need to have a lot of them to be making $1000 per month?

        By the way, I am very happy to hit my first $100 per month from Amazon today! Although it is not life changing but I am still very happy!
        I obviously can't guarantee anything but $1000 per month should be very doable, even with a single site. I personally do it with several different sites to mitigate any fluctuations in Google's algorithm. However, I am building out one or two sites that I expect to become very, very large over the coming months/years.

        It really doesn't matter how many sites you have. It's traffic that matters. If you can build a site that can pull in a few hundred visitors per day, $1000 per month is very attainable.
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    Amazon never worked for my niche
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by extremejava View Post

      Amazon never worked for my niche
      Was your niche product-related or was it info-related?
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      • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
        wolfmmiii and Ashera,

        Are either one of you posting non-review material on your sites?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by DynoMutt View Post

          wolfmmiii and Ashera,

          Are either one of you posting non-review material on your sites?
          I post very little non-review material on most of my sites but there is some on some of my sites.
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          • Profile picture of the author kopite248
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            I post very little non-review material on most of my sites but there is some on some of my sites.
            Hi Wolfmmiii just a question on KW. Im currently constructing an Amazon review site. Not sure how to place my KW. Ive always thought 1 main KW per review with LSI related KW in review? Is this right?
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by kopite248 View Post

              Hi Wolfmmiii just a question on KW. Im currently constructing an Amazon review site. Not sure how to place my KW. Ive always thought 1 main KW per review with LSI related KW in review? Is this right?
              You've got it right. I focus each review on one specific product and I include related terms in each review. What this does is bring in very targeted traffic.

              Targeted traffic + good content = conversions = $$$
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              • Profile picture of the author kopite248
                Thanks for the reply.

                Been looking at your site. Does your ebook cover all aspects of Amazon site building? Following a guide now but not sure if its outdated.

                They said not to use 1 main KW instead just write review. Prob would work with related KW if you had lots of traffic?

                I though
                1.5 Kw density
                KW bold, underlined, italic once
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by kopite248 View Post

                  Thanks for the reply.

                  Been looking at your site. Does your ebook cover all aspects of Amazon site building? Following a guide now but not sure if its outdated.

                  They said not to use 1 main KW instead just write review. Prob would work with related KW if you had lots of traffic?

                  I though
                  1.5 Kw density
                  KW bold, underlined, italic once
                  etc
                  My guide provides details about how I build my own Amazon sites. It covers things like:
                  • What my specific strategy is and why it works for me
                  • How I choose niches & why some are better than others
                  • How I identify easy-to-rank products
                  • How I structure my reviews
                  • What plugins I use and why
                  There's also a FAQ that I keep updated.
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                  • Profile picture of the author kopite248
                    Sounds good. Think i'll give it a go.

                    Just off out now to see Prometheus

                    So will buy tomorrow.
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  • Profile picture of the author nealh
    Ashera, great thread you started and very inspiring.

    I have dropped you a pm if you could spare 5mins of your time, that would be great.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Ross Petal
    It's good to see warriors doing well with Amazon. The high CTR, choosing the right products/keywords and proper creation of sites whilst taking into account the Big G updates are so important in making it with Amazon.

    So which coaching programs did you expert warriors study and found priceless?

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Ross Petal View Post


      So which coaching programs did you expert warriors study and found priceless?

      Cheers
      I, personally, never purchased coaching or ebooks. I learned everything from the ground up. I now publish my own guides and such.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoimninja
    Thanks for this great post. I'm beginning to hear that a lot more people are preferring Amazon over Google. I think Google is just becoming too big as they try to take over everything, leaving a lot of flaws because they're spread so thin.
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  • Profile picture of the author computermesh
    Anymore, I think more people are choosing Amazon over Google. Were hearing about a lot of people loosing there accounts for doing absolutely nothing wrong. And more are popping up about them normally getting multi dollar clicks now getting only pennies. I'd choose Amazon every day of the week.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by computermesh View Post

      Anymore, I think more people are choosing Amazon over Google. Were hearing about a lot of people loosing there accounts for doing absolutely nothing wrong. And more are popping up about them normally getting multi dollar clicks now getting only pennies. I'd choose Amazon every day of the week.
      I'm not sure I agree with the statement that Google is banning people "for no reason". However, I do agree that Amazon is far more profitable, if you run product-based sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        I'm not sure I agree with the statement that Google is banning people "for no reason". However, I do agree that Amazon is far more profitable, if you run product-based sites.
        Google always has a reason, a lot of people just don't agree with them.
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      • Profile picture of the author computermesh
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        I'm not sure I agree with the statement that Google is banning people "for no reason". However, I do agree that Amazon is far more profitable, if you run product-based sites.

        Let me rephrase before everything gets taken out of context. Google Bans without giving much of a reason. Have you seen the emails? So generic it's insulting.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    I'm sorry I haven't been responding to this thread or to the numerous PM's. I've been working on a new project and just haven't had the time.
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    • Profile picture of the author pgloor
      Thank you Ashera for sharing this, it's a great thread that encourages me to give Amazon a try. I'm totally new to Affiliate Internet Marketing but have quite a good SEO background and got a top ranking of my former company's web site over many years.

      Maybe I missed something, but there is one thing I still dont understand: what was the cause for the big break-through? Just the fact you added Amazon to what you have been doing already before?
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveB
      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      I'm sorry I haven't been responding to this thread or to the numerous PM's. I've been working on a new project and just haven't had the time.
      Hi Ashera,
      Hopefully working on your Amazon WSO - any chance of a peek at one of your successful sites...have looked through much of the thread but cant see any examples..
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    how I put the amazon 5star customer review image in my website?
    Is there a plugin?
    Copy &paste does not work correct.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author Lori Kelly
    Really good information on this thread. Thanks for taking the time to post your Ashera. And congrats to you!
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  • Profile picture of the author voidd
    this thread is awesome, its making me reconsider how i will monetize my site (once i get more traffic) And if the prices stay low enough i might be purchasing 3 amazon sites already getting traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author PriceMaster
    Dayam! Makes me want to switch over to Amazon completely... But I haven't had much luck with conversions. I guess I need to get my niche right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Exavier
    Lots of useful information here so thanks. I'm still new and working on this myself. Hoping that I can implement some of this eventually and see what I can get done. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Lightlysalted
    absolutely awesome, great idea, I've trying this out also and I've noted an increase in revenues
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  • Profile picture of the author Spencer Haws
    Ashera, congrats on the success with Amazon! As others have mentioned, I've noticed the exact opposite with my sites. I tend to do much better with Google Adsense than Amazon. This obviously is reliant on the niche that you are in. More product based sites will do better with Amazon associates, whereas a much broader category of niches (including information based niches) will do much better with Google Adsense. So I think the key is to use a monetization strategy based on the niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Millerking
    I have sites ranked the some position of google,but my AMAZON revenue dropped a lot since google algo change on 24th APR. My CRT also dropped a lot. I don't know why.......

    Ashera, is your revenue remains steady?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Millerking View Post

      I have sites ranked the some position of google,but my AMAZON revenue dropped a lot since google algo change on 24th APR. My CRT also dropped a lot. I don't know why.......

      Ashera, is your revenue remains steady?
      Yes, nothing has changed, couple sites gain, couple sites lose - it remains constant since I haven't spent much work on my sites lately with the new project consuming the majority of my time.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I can't speak for Ashera but I can say that my sites are still going strong. I can only assume it's because I target low competition products, provide good content, and do no backlinking.
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    • Profile picture of the author doitnow
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      I can't speak for Ashera but I can say that my sites are still going strong. I can only assume it's because I target low competition products, provide good content, and do no backlinking.
      no backlinking? seriously?

      meaning that you just write reviews and that's it?

      thanks.

      i am Suck at backlinking...
      but I can write without thinking.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by doitnow View Post

        no backlinking? seriously?

        meaning that you just write reviews and that's it?

        thanks.

        i am Suck at backlinking...
        but I can write without thinking.
        Yes, I just write reviews and that's it. Outside of the automated bookmarking and pinging of each new review, I do no other backlinking. I kill it with this strategy because I can find products that very few others are targeting.
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        • Profile picture of the author doitnow
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Yes, I just write reviews and that's it. Outside of the automated bookmarking and pinging of each new review, I do no other backlinking. I kill it with this strategy because I can find products that very few others are targeting.
          My prev income are all from Adsense.
          all autopilot using Bing API PDF AGC.
          $4,000 in the last year doing nuthin but setup sites, install theme and keywords for title posts and let Google Bot crawl it and also do 'dofollow' for result titles which in turn act as a new keyword.
          Did not do backlinking whatsoever since I didnt know HOW ....
          Those 4,000 are from 10 or so sites and using Baby Croc..

          I thought my relatively not hi income was because I didnt do backlinking. So perhaps I was wrong, I dont know.

          I have a site with 1.6 million indexed keywords and only 100-300 visitors a day!

          Quite an inspiration by you Wolf!

          I will surely check out your guide. Am using my Xperia to read ALL POSTS of this thread and write replies ...

          Thank y'all... and congrats for taking over this thread, Wolf! haha, joking.

          Thanks as well to Ashera for initially intrigue me to read all through. Spent the last 2-3 hours on this thread..

          fyuh...
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I found that long tail product keywords google shows often more than 100.000 results when I put these 5-6 words long tail keyword in qoutes "longtailkeyword".

    But the competitionon google page one is most only amazon the rest on spot 4-10 are sites who has no PR and no backlinks (or few 10 or 20).

    I think I will use these keywords and nothing look over these 100.000 google results, when on first page all sites no has PR and no backlinks.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I found that long tail product keywords google shows often more than 100.000 results when I put these 5-6 words long tail keyword in qoutes "longtailkeyword".

    But the competitionon google page one is most only amazon the rest on spot 4-10 are sites who has no PR and no backlinks (or few 10 or 20).

    I think I will use these keywords and nothing look over these 100.000 google results, when on first page all sites no has PR and no backlinks.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author allie77
    Can you give an example of one of your websites earning money with Amazon. IS it an ecommerce store featuring amazon products? or something different?
    Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Demo site showing how I create reviews: of http://technologyreviewonline.inf/wp-admin/
    username: demouser
    password: password

    Live site that I use as an example in my webinars: DEWALT DCS310S1 Review | ToolZone Power Tool Reviews

    My money sites are built very similarly to the tzonetools one above.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post


      Live site that I use as an example in my webinars: DEWALT DCS310S1 Review | ToolZone Power Tool Reviews

      My money sites are built very similarly to the tzonetools one above.
      So if this was a real money site of yours you would have like 10-15 pages similar to the page you linked with each page reviewing one specific model of power tool. So if each internal page of the site targets a specific model of a particular power tool what would the homepage article talk about? Just a 500 word article about various power tools and the different types and models that you have reviews on the site (with links to internal pages that has a review for those models)?

      And the traffic that you get to your site is from these internal pages ranking high on the SERPs from long tail keywords that you may not be directly targeting, but because your review is solid with your main keyword and other LSI's thrown in? So you do no backlinking whatsoever for these sites at all or just a bit here or there? Do they start off ranking high in the SERPs from the get go?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        So if this was a real money site of yours you would have like 10-15 pages similar to the page you linked with each page reviewing one specific model of power tool.
        More like 50-100 products.

        So if each internal page of the site targets a specific model of a particular power tool what would the homepage article talk about? Just a 500 word article about various power tools and the different types and models that you have reviews on the site (with links to internal pages that has a review for those models)?
        The home page varies depending on the theme. In most cases, it's just some variation of my last several reviews.

        And the traffic that you get to your site is from these internal pages ranking high on the SERPs from long tail keywords that you may not be directly targeting, but because your review is solid with your main keyword and other LSI's thrown in?
        Correct.

        So you do no backlinking whatsoever for these sites at all or just a bit here or there?
        The ONLY backlinking I do is auto-bookmarking and auto-pinging each new review. Nothing else after that.

        Do they start off ranking high in the SERPs from the get go?
        In most cases, once the site is a week or so old, new reviews are indexed within 24 hours and usually rank on the first page since I target low competition products.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

        So if this was a real money site of yours
        Almost forgot....

        The tool site is officially now a "money site" of mine. It's already generated commissions just from that one review alone.
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        • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Almost forgot....

          The tool site is officially now a "money site" of mine. It's already generated commissions just from that one review alone.
          Thanks for your feedback.

          Do you write the reviews yourself or do you outsource them?

          How many of these sites do you have that combined generate 4 figures a month? (By the way is the income in the low, mid, or high 4 figures?).
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
    Hi Wolfmmiii,

    I have bought your Amazon Review Site Blueprint and have bring up my earnings this month to 200+ already after adding all the ship items, thanks!

    Now, I focus on bringing more traffic to my current site and I am going to start a new site, once again, thanks!

    Yusuke
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post

      Hi Wolfmmiii,

      I have bought your Amazon Review Site Blueprint and have bring up my earnings this month to 200+ already after adding all the ship items, thanks!

      Now, I focus on bringing more traffic to my current site and I am going to start a new site, once again, thanks!

      Yusuke
      That's awesome! I'm happy that it's helping you! It just goes to show that getting off the beaten path and doing things differently than most can yield excellent results.

      I've been following the strategy outlined in my personal Amazon blueprint for quite some time now and the results have been nothing less than fantastic on a consistent basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    amazon is smart, I often don't find the "Most popular" section on the right bar in amazon when I have select my product niche. Often amazon shows the bar who has;

    Relevance
    Popularity
    Low to high
    high to low
    customer review

    but not "Most popular", amazon shows this not for all products or I'm to stupid to find it?

    Has anyone a tip for me to find that?

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
    Hi MultipleCloud,

    Currently, the traffic I have is only from the search engines (mainly Google) for many keywords. In the future, I hope to scale up and bring more traffic from other methods other than rely on the search engines itself as who knows they might change the algorithms again that might affect my site.

    Just to let you know that I did not do any backlinks to my website, just original, quality content. Overtime, Google will like your site and give you ranking for keywords that you did not even expect. Hope that helps.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post

      Hi MultipleCloud,

      Currently, the traffic I have is only from the search engines (mainly Google) for many keywords. In the future, I hope to scale up and bring more traffic from other methods other than rely on the search engines itself as who knows they might change the algorithms again that might affect my site.

      Just to let you know that I did not do any backlinks to my website, just original, quality content. Overtime, Google will like your site and give you ranking for keywords that you did not even expect. Hope that helps.
      And this is exactly how my personal amazon blueprint strategy works.
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    Update: See attached, 7 more items today! so happy!

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    Great job man! I love reading success stories!
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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
    Thanks, actually I am embarrass to say that after knowing internet marketing for about 1-2 years, I only made my real money until few months ago, so it took me about a year plus to start taking action and not buying anymore wso (except Wolfmmiii's Amazon Blueprint), lol. My advice to newbies out there, start taking action and not keep on buying blueprint, no amount of reading will help unless you start taking action.

    Yusuke.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Yusuke View Post

      Thanks, actually I am embarrass to say that after knowing internet marketing for about 1-2 years, I only made my real money until few months ago, so it took me about a year plus to start taking action and not buying anymore wso (except Wolfmmiii's Amazon Blueprint), lol. My advice to newbies out there, start taking action and not keep on buying blueprint, no amount of reading will help unless you start taking action.

      Yusuke.
      As demonstrated by Yusuke's success, it's important to pick a strategy, stick with it, and take action. Whether it's my personal amazon blueprint (preferably ) that you purchase or someone else's info product, it's important to stay the course and IMPLEMENT.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    should I pick amazon products who have many reviews or should I don't worry about rhat how many reviews a products has?

    For most 300$ above items I don't find products with many reviews, in the price range from 50-150$ there are many products who has big reviews.

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Most of the products that I select have very few reviews.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, glad to hear that! So that is now easier for me to find niche products about price range of 300- 500$ or litte more, to take action with these and make moeny.

    wolfmmiii, you are one of the few people here who gives us newbies great value!

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      wolfmmiii, glad to hear that! So that is now easier for me to find niche products about price range of 300- 500$ or litte more, to take action with these and make moeny.

      wolfmmiii, you are one of the few people here who gives us newbies great value!

      best wishes
      marco005
      Thanks marco! The kind words are appreciated. Virtually everything I say comes from experience. Very rarely will I base anything I say on theory and I think that's why so many folks find my information useful.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, your the amazonian man...

    you give value from your experience, your a an practitioner.

    your method is so simple that many people will overlook about thet and make it more complicated than it is , rank easy with longtail, have good short content with a strong call to action and people will buy.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    does amazon cap the commission to 4% only to electronic products who are under the electronics category, or does amazon cap all electronic products like toothbrushes, electric shaver and so on????

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author James Foster
    Congrats man. You're looking like the next Jan Roos
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I own maybe 10 sites. However, there's really only ever a handful "active" at any given time. As for income, let's just say that what I earn is what many would easily consider a full-time income.
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  • Profile picture of the author C29662C
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    wow i never had luck with amazon but you guys make me want to try
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by C29662C View Post

      wow i never had luck with amazon but you guys make me want to try
      It's really not difficult, especially when you stick with low-competition products.

      I think people go wrong almost right out of the gate when they target generic, high-traffic, high-competition products. This creates all kinds of problems.

      Although generic terms like "high definition televisions" will produce lots more traffic than product-specific terms, the generic term won't convert as well and it will take some heavy lifting to even rank for the term to begin with. People start spinning their wheels trying to backlink and then either quit because they can't rank or they wind up penalized for unnatural backlinks.

      While these folks are doing the above, I'm cruising along, posting reviews, ranking in minutes, and earning commissions.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        It's really not difficult, especially when you stick with low-competition products.

        I think people go wrong almost right out of the gate when they target generic, high-traffic, high-competition products. This creates all kinds of problems.

        Although generic terms like "high definition televisions" will produce lots more traffic than product-specific terms, the generic term won't convert as well and it will take some heavy lifting to even rank for the term to begin with. People start spinning their wheels trying to backlink and then either quit because they can't rank or they wind up penalized for unnatural backlinks.

        While these folks are doing the above, I'm cruising along, posting reviews, ranking in minutes, and earning commissions.
        Approx - what's the local monthly searches you aim for?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Approx - what's the local monthly searches you aim for?
          I don't pay attention to search volume. I simply target products that others are not. Although some products will be duds, the overall effort expended is far less than spending hours and hours researching and building backlinks (which I do not do either).
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          • Profile picture of the author sodomojo
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            I don't pay attention to search volume. I simply target products that others are not. Although some products will be duds, the overall effort expended is far less than spending hours and hours researching and building backlinks (which I do not do either).
            How do you target products that others are not?
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by Tydowns View Post

              How do you target products that others are not?
              Research. Google searches. Amazon searches. Etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, that only the electronic category is capped on 4% commissions or all electronic products like electric shaver,toothbrushes and so on?

    I will build micro niche sites who have 5 pages (also 5 products) plus a 500 word homepage, perhaps should I put in every page at the bottom of my review 5-10 textlinks to more similiar amazon products like; "see more related products", or "more bestseller products on amazon" so like Darren Rowse?

    Or is that too much choice for the user?


    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author the_viking
    The ONLY backlinking I do is auto-bookmarking and auto-pinging each new review. Nothing else after that.
    You explain the auto- pining in your guide, but how do you do the auto-bookmarking? Is that a plugin as well? Thanks for all your help, wolfmmii
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by the_viking View Post

      You explain the auto- pining in your guide, but how do you do the auto-bookmarking? Is that a plugin as well? Thanks for all your help, wolfmmii
      There are lots of social bookmarking plugins but I prefer OnlyWire myself.
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      • Profile picture of the author sodomojo
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        There are lots of social bookmarking plugins but I prefer OnlyWire myself.
        When submitting via onlywire, do you do it on their website or does the plugin do all that for you?

        Also, do you create a new profile for each of the social networking sites for each amazon site you set up, or do you have a single profile that you use for all your sites? Is that profile seperate from your personal fb/twitter profile? Meaning is that profile used only for OnlyWire Amazon submissions?
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  • Profile picture of the author daveyace
    heres a webinar on how to get the best from amazon http://thewebinarhost.com/6figurepro...?affiliate=498
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I use the Plugin and I have several different profiles.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    So are the reviews written by you or do you outsource that?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      So are the reviews written by you or do you outsource that?
      I do everything myself. My back-end review system is customized so I can quickly generate reviews. I spend maybe an hour or two per day creating reviews. It's actually very easy work.
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      • Profile picture of the author uqmoore
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        I do everything myself. My back-end review system is customized so I can quickly generate reviews. I spend maybe an hour or two per day creating reviews. It's actually very easy work.
        Is the guidance for creating reviews in your "low-competition products" guide? I'm interested in employing your strategy with my existing site.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by uqmoore View Post

          Is the guidance for creating reviews in your "low-competition products" guide? I'm interested in employing your strategy with my existing site.
          Yes it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    must I open for each niche a new amazon account orcan I use may one and only amazon account for many niches??? Then they have under account settings an max. 5 url limit .


    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    You only need one Amazon account. I'm not sure what URL limit you are referring to.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi wolfmmiii,

    Thats great! So I must put my my only one amazon affiliate ID in each of my niche websites.

    Yes in amazon axccount under account settings is an max.limit of 5 url similiar like that;
    "when you have more than one website add your top max. 5 urls here" or so.....

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I only use 1 Amazon account but I use a different tracking ID for each site.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, how I make that a different tracking id for each site?

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Login to your Amazon Associates account and go here:

    https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...cking-ids.html
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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    This post makes me mad and glad at the same time. I am in North Carolina where the greedy politicians have caused amazon to black list us. I now use Rakuten LinkShare. Do you know any others that might help make the same as amazon does in profits?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

      This post makes me mad and glad at the same time. I am in North Carolina where the greedy politicians have caused amazon to black list us. I now use Rakuten LinkShare. Do you know any others that might help make the same as amazon does in profits?
      I do promote a few merchants in the Linkshare network and I have been paid. I'm doing some tests with some of the more exclusive programs to see what earnings are like. Things look promising as of right now.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    ahh thanks you wolfmmiii, you are the amazonian man.....


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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      ahh thanks you wolfmmiii, you are the amazonian man.....


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      No problem man. I'm glad to help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    I used to own a small network of Amazon websites... It worked quite well, did about $50/mo each. Ranking for highly targeted, low traffic keywords is indeed easy, and they convert well. If you build big enough websites, some of the pages will rank with next to no external backlinks.

    I used to go after keywords with 100 (inner pages) to 4000 (homepage) exact monthly searches.

    Amazon isn't my cup of tea, but it's definitely among the easiest/simplest ways to make money as an affiliate.
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Hi all,

    This thread really ignited my interest in Amazon affiliate websites, something I had previously tried and failed at. After reading all posts, I followed Ashera's eloquent advice and started up a new product review site. Ashera helped me choose the keyword and gave some further advice on SEO. I'm already seeing good conversions now and whether or not Ashera's figures are indeed correct, I would still purchase any WSO he offers in future as he's proven to me that his methods work and he also took the time to respond to a great number of PMs and posts.

    That being said, I can totally understand why people are suspicious about threads like these as I have also seen similar claims. Ashera, however, really provided value in this thread.

    Wolfmmii, thanks for your help in other threads too. I'm really starting to see some great activity on my new site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Hi all,

      This thread really ignited my interest in Amazon affiliate websites, something I had previously tried and failed at. After reading all posts, I followed Ashera's eloquent advice and started up a new product review site. Ashera helped me choose the keyword and gave some further advice on SEO. I'm already seeing good conversions now and whether or not Ashera's figures are indeed correct, I would still purchase any WSO he offers in future as he's proven to me that his methods work and he also took the time to respond to a great number of PMs and posts.

      That being said, I can totally understand why people are suspicious about threads like these as I have also seen similar claims. Ashera, however, really provided value in this thread.

      Wolfmmii, thanks for your help in other threads too. I'm really starting to see some great activity on my new site.
      No WSO coming from me anytime in the near future... got my hands full. So glad you are starting to see some conversions - you caught me at a good point when I wasn't so busy and was able to answer all your questions.. my inbox is overflowing now and I feel bad but I just do not have time to answer each one.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Hi all,

      This thread really ignited my interest in Amazon affiliate websites, something I had previously tried and failed at. After reading all posts, I followed Ashera's eloquent advice and started up a new product review site. Ashera helped me choose the keyword and gave some further advice on SEO. I'm already seeing good conversions now and whether or not Ashera's figures are indeed correct, I would still purchase any WSO he offers in future as he's proven to me that his methods work and he also took the time to respond to a great number of PMs and posts.
      In addition to all of the advice you received in this thread, think really long and hard about how you could approach your chosen niche from a unique "angle". When you figure that out, thousand dollar days...
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      • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        In addition to all of the advice you received in this thread, think really long and hard about how you could approach your chosen niche from a unique "angle". When you figure that out, thousand dollar days...
        I'm really intrigued by this. Can you give an example? My niche is very specific, so I'm not sure how to approach from a unique angle.
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      • Profile picture of the author marco005
        Hi,

        I will start making niche sites with around 10 pages,also promote 1 product on each page.Perhaps I will adding 5-10 related products at the bottom of my unique written review as product comparison table, so this is a good idea? Or should I stay away adding a product comparison table at the bottom?


        A niche site who has 8-30 products on each page and each product with an 400 word review, oh man that is to expensive for me now to outsource.

        Thats 120$ (perhaps like 1$ or2$ per 100 word writer) per site and 30 pages of them........
        Or you build these sites with an very good content rewriter spinner?

        I will build 10 pages each with 1 product and short review like wolfmmiii.


        marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Fernando1954
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Hi all,

      I'm already seeing good conversions now
      After that statement i would remove that link to your site in your sig, every body and his dog will be all over that site and copying it.
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      • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
        Originally Posted by Fernando1954 View Post

        After that statement i would remove that link to your site in your sig, every body and his dog will be all over that site and copying it.
        Ah, but the site mentioned in my signature is not my new site, but one of my old Amazon sites from long ago that doesn't even convert. In fact, I don't even know why I still have it in my sig.
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    I have a couple of questions for you guys.

    - Do you include product comparison tables on your sites?
    - Do you link through to just the product pages on Amazon or the basket page? Which converts best?

    Thanks.

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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      I have a couple of questions for you guys.

      - Do you include product comparison tables on your sites?
      - Do you link through to just the product pages on Amazon or the basket page? Which converts best?

      Thanks.

      J
      Some of my sites do include product comparison table but a majority do not.

      Most of my review do both. I include both a functional add-to-cart button and in-content affiliate links to each of my reviews. I don't really pay too much attention to which converts better since every page contains both. As long as the site is converting in general, I'm happy.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    @Wolfmmiii - Hey I couldn't wait any longer for your response (I sent you a PM), so I just said eff it and bought the blueprint. I learned a lot and I'm ready to put it in good use. Thanks man.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      @Wolfmmiii - Hey I couldn't wait any longer for your response (I sent you a PM), so I just said eff it and bought the blueprint. I learned a lot and I'm ready to put it in good use. Thanks man.
      Hi GGpaul....Sorry about that man. I'm going through them as quickly as I can. I still have 14 unread in my inbox.

      My blueprint is far more successful than I ever anticipated. I'm getting all kinds of requests from pre-sales to site build requests to folks asking for my opinion on their sites. My son is looking for a part-time job so I'm thinking about hiring him!

      Please make sure you touch base if you have any questions. I'm hoping to get through the remaining PMs this week.

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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Hi GGpaul....Sorry about that man. I'm going through them as quickly as I can. I still have 14 unread in my inbox.

        My blueprint is far more successful than I ever anticipated. I'm getting all kinds of requests from pre-sales to site build requests to folks asking for my opinion on their sites. My son is looking for a part-time job so I'm thinking about hiring him!

        Please make sure you touch base if you have any questions. I'm hoping to get through the remaining PMs this week.

        Tom
        Absolutely man. It made much sense to me when you said hit or miss it's still a win win situation cause you're adding more content/supporting pages/ etc.
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    Thanks for sharing nice information....
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  • Profile picture of the author UKrookie
    Great posts - thanks for that. Can anyone tell me what sort of conversion rates one could expect once you send visitors the Amazon shop? I finally managed to get a youtube video promoting a cordless phone to page one on Google in Germany and have sent 222 vistors to Amazon. No of articles sold: zero! Am I missing a trick (well, I am new to this...)?
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  • Profile picture of the author alexbeeben
    does it take a lot of time to use this feature n get real results?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by alexbeeben View Post

      does it take a lot of time to use this feature n get real results?
      As I mentioned earlier in the thread, it generally takes no more than a week or two for my sites to rank and begin earning commissions.
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      • Profile picture of the author sodomojo
        Wolfmiii, what are your thoughts on implementing adsense on amazon review sites?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Tydowns View Post

          Wolfmiii, what are your thoughts on implementing adsense on amazon review sites?
          Eh, it can work. I personally do not only because my goal is to get affiliate link clicks. That said, some of my own product reviews do, in fact, incorporate both Amazon and advertising such as AdSense, Shopzilla, Nextag, etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author uqmoore
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Hey man, thanks for the review. I'm glad you found it useful. I'm currently working on an even more newbie-friendly product that should become available very soon.
        Holy crap!!! Just one of your tips alone is preventing me from going to sleep.

        Also, I'm apparently finding instances of people using your same strategy.

        Freakin awesome.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Hey Wolfmmiii, I'm working on 4 products. I utilized your technique with the review blueprint. I'll keep you updated. What's the best way to contact you asides from PM?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Hey Wolfmmiii, I'm working on 4 products. I utilized your technique with the review blueprint. I'll keep you updated. What's the best way to contact you asides from PM?
      Just shoot me an email. You have the address.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Just shoot me an email. You have the address.
        You gave it, for some reason something/someone deleted that post. Thanks by the way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
        Hey Wolfmmiii,

        First of all thanks for all your help to people like me on this thread.

        I have just one question. I looked at your Example Amazon site and saw you used the anchor text - click here so you could direct them to Amazon with your cookie/affiliate code. Isn't redirecting someone to your Amazon Affiliate link/cookie with anchor text considered cookie stuffing?

        I just want to avoid being banned. Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Mav91890 View Post

          Hey Wolfmmiii,

          First of all thanks for all your help to people like me on this thread.

          I have just one question. I looked at your Example Amazon site and saw you used the anchor text - click here so you could direct them to Amazon with your cookie/affiliate code. Isn't redirecting someone to your Amazon Affiliate link/cookie with anchor text considered cookie stuffing?

          I just want to avoid being banned. Thanks!
          No, cookie stuffing is something completely different. Cookie stuffing means you force the cookie to be set without the visitor even clicking any links. Using "click here" is a widely accepted and very common practice. It's referred to as a "call to action".
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  • Profile picture of the author BlogginAngie
    Count in another person here who agree with you. In my experience Amazon has also been better than Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author dceorpeek
    Guys, slow down! Excuse me for being a complete beginner, but is this kind of return really possible? I made one site with wordpress following a tutorial, signed up with adsense, and sat back as uaw filled it with articles.
    I have no clue what to do now. Its been 5 days, and I think I've had about 2 visits, probably google bots. I know I cant quit my day job just yet, but that is my plan, and would love some guidance from YOU ABSOLUTE FREAKIN JEDI MASTERS!!!
    Any help on where to go from here would be awesome, even something like "Stop now and redo everything!!"

    Thanks in advance!
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    • Profile picture of the author uqmoore
      Originally Posted by jenifertaler View Post

      Great ! I have many site but adsense disable my account what shall i do?
      The only thing you can do about an adsense ban is to get new hosting, start new sites, and get a new adsense account. I even read that you should log into the new account from a different computer.

      Note that you don't need adsense to make money with Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Update: With the right product research, proper on-page SEO, I posted new content (375 words) and already ranked number 38. Nice nice nice.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Wolfmii, why don't you keep your advertising within other threads? This is not a thread to sell your product. There is a reason you've had over 5 posts deleted from this thread.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      Wolfmii, why don't you keep your advertising within other threads? This is not a thread to sell your product. There is a reason you've had over 5 posts deleted from this thread.
      I have not actively "sold" anything on this thread. I am simply participating on this thread and answering questions that have been asked of me. I am entitled to my sig file, which is within TOS.

      I think your beef is with folks who are asking me for advice. I'm simply providing answers.
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  • Profile picture of the author cantinaband
    Thanks Ashera!

    I was going to start my IM "career" with AdSense but I will give Amazon a try. If you ever release a WSO you have a customer
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  • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
    Ok because I saw a thread before where they would hide the link/cookie on a clickable picture that looked like a video review and would take you straight to Amazon. So that is cookie stuffing right?

    Alright I didn't know you could use anchor text unless it clearly stated it would send you to Amazon. Thanks!
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Mav91890 View Post

      Ok because I saw a thread before where they would hide the link/cookie on a clickable picture that looked like a video review and would take you straight to Amazon. So that is cookie stuffing right?

      That would not be cookie stuffing. The only time it would be considered cookie stuffing is when the visitor doesn't have to take any action to get cookied. Once the visitor has to knowingly take an action (like clicking a link or image), it is no longer cookie stuffing. That said, I saw that thread and I'm not 100% certain that would pass muster since it is deceptive (although not cookie stuffing).

      If you hover over the "Click here" link on that sample site, you will see it shows that it's an Amazon link.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mav91890
    Ok great! I'll just play it safe with the contextual links. I may have to check out your sig links sometime today.

    One last thing if you don't mind. Say for example I'm doing a review on a Xbox 360 system and I get credited for selling other products such as controllers, games, ect. In your knowledge is there a certain ratio you must have of intended sales (the xbox 360 system I reviewed) to random items such as controllers, games, other stuff. Or do you think it doesn't really matter?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Mav91890 View Post

      In your knowledge is there a certain ratio you must have of intended sales (the xbox 360 system I reviewed) to random items such as controllers, games, other stuff. Or do you think it doesn't really matter?
      Nope, doesn't matter at all. I sell all kinds of stuff. There are no ratios to concern yourself with. You get credited for whatever you sell, regardless of what your intent was.
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  • Profile picture of the author virtu
    Congratulations on your achievement, really motivate me to do better. Just ask if you get a new policies from amazon regarding their commission for affiliates?

    thank you,
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  • Profile picture of the author eric56hk
    So do you have a system for your SEO process? Do you do the same thing for ever site that you ranked?
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Yes I have a seo plan........
    backlinks to my deeper page and good recommend services from fiver for main domain backlinks.

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author surinsa
    Hi Ashera,

    Thanks for this post. I had few amazon sites in past but due to very less conversion I lost interest. I will start again with 10 domains for amazon sites.
    This thread has really motivated me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by surinsa View Post

      I had few amazon sites in past but due to very less conversion I lost interest. I will start again with 10 domains for amazon sites.
      This thread has really motivated me.
      Start out with just one domain and do your research well. Find what works for you, then scale.

      Another idea: instead of 10 domains, pick a larger niche and make ONE website that is 10 times bigger. With a good internal linking structure a website like that can push a lot of authority to certain pages (meaning you can rank almost instantly if you choose keywords with very low competition). A site like this can make decent money. Then all you need to do is build 5-10 more sites and you've got yourself a full-time passive income stream.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        Start out with just one domain and do your research well. Find what works for you, then scale.

        Another idea: instead of 10 domains, pick a larger niche and make ONE website that is 10 times bigger. With a good internal linking structure a website like that can push a lot of authority to certain pages (meaning you can rank almost instantly if you choose keywords with very low competition). A site like this can make decent money. Then all you need to do is build 5-10 more sites and you've got yourself a full-time passive income stream.
        This is a much better option than building tons of smaller sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author UKrookie
      Can anyone tell me what sort of conversion rate one could expect from Amazon? I have sent about 250 people to a product site on Amazon via a Youtube video review, which I am quite happy with. My conversion rate: 0! Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by UKrookie View Post

        Can anyone tell me what sort of conversion rate one could expect from Amazon? I have sent about 250 people to a product site on Amazon via a Youtube video review, which I am quite happy with. My conversion rate: 0! Thanks!
        Conversion rates vary based on hundreds of variables. Typical conversion rates that many folks seem to report are anywhere from 3% to upwards of 8%. Some have significantly better conversions and some not so much.

        The products you are promoting have a great deal to do with conversions as does average price and what kind of traffic you are generating. I generally have very good conversions because the traffic I attract is usually late in the "buying cycle".
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi Ashera,

    your big sites with 30 sites and each with 30 products, do you write all the reviews yourself or do you outsource? Or you have a rewriter/spinner module?

    outsource is a little bit expensive.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author surinsa
    Do you not use any other affiliate offer such as Cj, Linkshare etc?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by surinsa View Post

      Do you not use any other affiliate offer such as Cj, Linkshare etc?
      I do use Linkshare on some other sites of mine. However, I prefer CJ and Amazon as my primary networks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sell
    There is someone who sells Amazon sites on the Warrior Forum all ready built.

    They are SEO optimized.

    The earnings were not as high as yours because they were new.

    Do you think this could work as good as yours?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Sell View Post

      There is someone who sells Amazon sites on the Warrior Forum all ready built.

      They are SEO optimized.

      The earnings were not as high as yours because they were new.

      Do you think this could work as good as yours?
      I can tell you that read-made sites almost never work out good.

      Here's the cold hard truth: you'll end up making $5/month on average per SITE in affiliate commissions. That's it.

      Second thing: you won't be able to flip (sell) the sites for anything more than $50 each later on.

      It's just not a good investment at all. Unless you get really lucky (not going to happen).
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  • Profile picture of the author doitnow
    Master wolfmmiii.
    (I think you are a Master )

    I have a WP Zon Builder and a premium theme called AZonAdvice.
    Will it be compatible with the Amazon Blueprint that you have?

    Although the Zon Builder sometimes posting just [amzn_post] instead of a post (product description) from Amazon, and I think it's better so I can replace it with my own review.

    I have adsense on autopilot and would like to do manual things
    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by doitnow View Post

      Master wolfmmiii.
      (I think you are a Master )

      I have a WP Zon Builder and a premium theme called AZonAdvice.
      Will it be compatible with the Amazon Blueprint that you have?
      My personal strategy is just that - a strategy. As such, you can do what I do to identify low-competition products and still use WP Zon Builder. However, I recommend against any plugins that scrape Amazon data and simply post it to your site.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        However, I recommend against any plugins that scrape Amazon data and simply post it to your site.
        Seconded.

        Put a bit of work into your reviews/pages and you'll rank better and convert more users.
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        • Profile picture of the author doitnow
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          My personal strategy is just that - a strategy. As such, you can do what I do to identify low-competition products and still use WP Zon Builder. However, I recommend against any plugins that scrape Amazon data and simply post it to your site.
          Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

          Seconded.

          Put a bit of work into your reviews/pages and you'll rank better and convert more users.
          My plan is to use WPZon Builder to filter products and post a draft. After that edit the draft with a real review. I tried to search manually on amazon and it does not provide as much filtering possibility as ZonBuilder.
          I don't know if I use the wrong tool or using it the wrong way

          Does your blueprint cover how to search the low competition product on Amazon?

          Thanks.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by doitnow View Post


            Does your blueprint cover how to search the low competition product on Amazon?

            Thanks.
            Yes. Shoot me a PM with any questions you have about it.
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            • Profile picture of the author doitnow
              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              Yes. Shoot me a PM with any questions you have about it.
              Thanks. But I cant send PM, yet

              I'll try to shoot you here again if there is any question.
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  • Profile picture of the author ooMARSoo
    That's pretty darn sexy. It's amazing to see how attractive someone is at "normal," and then we look at you and see your money and success. Woot! Sexy Internet Amazon Man!
    ;-P
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  • Profile picture of the author Affiliate Ninja
    Awesome job! I know you had to put in some work to get to this point but I am sure it was worth it. I just started with Amazon about two weeks ago and make around $10.00 a day so I am excited to hear your story it encourges me to do more.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author moamen84
    Nice Very Good I Hope My Earning To Be Like That. Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I try to put the amazon review image in my page, copy&paste does not work.
    How do you make that; put the amazon review image in your site?

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      I try to put the amazon review image in my page, copy&paste does not work.
      How do you make that; put the amazon review image in your site?

      best wishes
      marco005
      Try the free WordPress plugin -Amazon Product in a Post , I have discussed some customizations to use in this thread.

      Combine it with Amazon Link Localizer (another free plugin), and when someone clicks to view the image it will automatically convert it into a referral link.

      Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    The images on my sites go to the product page. The "Buy" button goes to the cart.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      The images on my sites go to the product page. The "Buy" button goes to the cart.
      So does Amazon gives us the code to implement when the "Buy" image button is being linked to the shopping cart? Or is this something we need to code ourselves?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

        So does Amazon gives us the code to implement when the "Buy" image button is being linked to the shopping cart? Or is this something we need to code ourselves?
        Amazon provides the code via their AWS (web services). On my own sites, I take that code and add it to my custom review templates so I don't have to add the code to every new review (I just have to add the ASIN and my AWS ID).
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,


    Ah! Thanks Ashera, Eureka! I have it,put the cumstomer review image and make a link like; "see the reviews" who is direct link to the amazon product page.

    So I will link to amazon 3 times in my 300-400 word review.
    Perhaps under my review at the bottom a comparison table with 4-5 more similiar products in the same price range.

    Hope this will give a high ctr from low hanging fruits- less longtail traffic but high convert traffic,to make 5 sales from lets say 500 visitors in month,for each of my website ( I will build 30 such sites in next 10 months).

    I will build strange amazon focused micro niche sites with around 8-10 products (8-10 pages).
    So the User has not to many choices, go or go to amazon and buy,that's it.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @wolfmmiii, now I make a list of my keywords my question;

    Look like this keyword as example in firefox with seo quake; Canon PowerShot S100 review.

    What a hell of lot heavy competitors.
    Yes they have zero-2 links to their Canon PowerShot S100 review site.

    With your method to build social bookmark backlinks to this keyword would I outrank these competitors or is this keyword to heavy???

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      @wolfmmiii, now I make a list of my keywords my question;

      Look like this keyword as example in firefox with seo quake; Canon PowerShot S100 review.

      What a hell of lot heavy competitors.
      Yes they have zero-2 links to their Canon PowerShot S100 review site.

      With your method to build social bookmark backlinks to this keyword would I outrank these competitors or is this keyword to heavy???

      best wishes
      marco005
      That product is not one that I would personally target. There is simply too much competition.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        That product is not one that I would personally target. There is simply too much competition.
        So if "Canon PowerShot S100 review" is a very competitive then if the Amazon description title was say "Canon PowerShot S100 12.1 MP Digital Camera" would it be then be easier to add the "review" at then end of that and make that our post title? Or would that still be too much competition. I ask this because many of Amazon's titles are very long and descriptive after the company and product# of the item. I thinking if we need to include all that details for our keyword or should we just stick with using the something like "Canon Powershot 100 review" where it's the company name followed by the series and then model#?

        So when with all your posts that are ranking for all these long tails on the first page do you see many of Amazon's internal pages ranking there as well? Do most of these long tails rank at #1 or top 3?
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  • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
    wolfmmiii,

    If say for example you did a post/review and it was titled "Canon Powershot S100 review" are you looking to rank for that term at first in the first 2 weeks or will your post be ranking for other long tails at first and eventually for that term if you build enough backlinks for it?

    So would this be case for all the posts that you do for a site where the main keyword that you use as the title of that review does not rank at first for that term, but for many other long tails?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

      wolfmmiii,

      If say for example you did a post/review and it was titled "Canon Powershot S100 review" are you looking to rank for that term at first in the first 2 weeks or will your post be ranking for other long tails at first and eventually for that term if you build enough backlinks for it?

      So would this be case for all the posts that you do for a site where the main keyword that you use as the title of that review does not rank at first for that term, but for many other long tails?
      I typically rank for all kinds of related long-tails as well as the primary term I am targeting. I don't do any backlinking once the review is published. This is my strategy for every review I publish.
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  • Profile picture of the author uqmoore
    I don't like your chances of ranking high for the best compact point and shoot camera available.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Yes mrtrance, this is an example of a product keyword.
    When I will build a niche site in the digital camera niche so I rank with a main keyword who is in the domain too. But the emd is not all, you must rank for your product keywords too or not?

    When you have a niche about cell phnoes as example, so you pick 5,10,20 or more products from amazon to promote it and with each product keywords you must rank.

    Or not?

    Then when the competition is to high so in my camera example I don't believe that is possible easy to rank for this keyword.

    That is the problem. All your product keywords (products you will promote) must have less competition,when not you will not rank for it.When you will build a few sb backlinks for deeper product keyword pages, so they must have less competition.

    Type this camera example keyword in firefox with seo quake and you will see the heavy hitters on google page one.

    So you kill two birds with a stone; You rank for your emd main keyword which you have found with less competition and you rank with the deeper product keywords (product pages), so you double your traffic.


    Please wolfmmiii, correct me if I'm wrong!

    @uqmoore; why you not like it? I not will promote the camera niche who has only capped 4$ commission in amazon and has huge competition,that was an example.

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author uqmoore
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      @uqmoore; why you not like it? I not will promote the camera niche who has only capped 4$ commission in amazon and has huge competition,that was an example.

      best wishes
      marco005
      I meant to suggest that it would be tough to rank for "Canon Powershot S100 review". If I was trying to rank for searches related to this camera, I would try something like "canon powershot s100 vs panasonic lumix lx5" or something else.
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      • Profile picture of the author HOTBALLSJOHNSON
        so you make 20k a month because 700 bucks a day is about 20k a month
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  • Profile picture of the author fire3fly
    Wow! You are awesome, and congratulations! I would keep both, as in internet marketing you want to diversify as much as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    uqmoore; Sorry please! Excuse me.

    Yes! I have found it amazon product with less competition. This camera keyword example is to heavy.On amazon you can find such keywords with less competition it is a hidden feature in amazon.

    These keywords are shown often a little bit in google insight but not in google external tool, there they have zero search volume, absolut zero.

    But I only find 5-10 such products for a niche, I will build a micro niche business, its hard for me to find hundreds of keywords.I work 4-5 hours each day on my PC to find
    3-5 amazon niches, each niche with 5-10 keywords in a month!

    Im not one of these "find hundreds niche and keywords" peoples.
    Find niche keyword is hard for me.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    little notice to my post above;

    When I search for niche keywords with less competition in amazon,I look;
    category-product-then sort by most popular and price range over 100$.

    But all products I find there,I must pick up and check with firefox and seo quake to see the competition. I must do this for every product- keyword, every, its damn hard work.

    Most oft them are not less competition,most. Only a few haves less competition.
    In firefox seo quake they have over 100.000 competition and the competitors are all with thousands-ten thousands of indexed sites and PR4, so like the canon powershot example keyword.

    Even the products on "most wished for" most of them are heavy hitters, not have less competition,I a little confused about it, its hard workfor me.

    I can hope that when my competitors have zero backlinks on their deeper page, but I build backlinks to my deeper page,that I outrank these, I not sure abot that, I must test it.

    Example; you have a notebook website with emd domain and you will promote Mac pro2000 Notebook or so,so all your competitor on google page on who have high PR but no backlinks on their deeper site who the review or article about the mac pro2000 Notebok is, on this site they have zero backlinks.

    But when you build backlinks on your notebook website for your deeper pages too (even your product pages), you maybe outrank these competitors?! (I not sure about that-thats my theory).

    Thats damn hard work for me, not easy to find these niche keywords.

    How wolfmmiii makes this? I don't know,but I will try his method.

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author laxer
    one question to ask, do you guys use adwords or other cpc ads to help on your amazon sites???


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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by laxer View Post

      one question to ask, do you guys use adwords or other cpc ads to help on your amazon sites???


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      I generally do not because I don't have to. Since my strategy revolves around targeting low competition products, my sites get plenty of organic traffic without any effort other than posting my reviews.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Pretty neat. I posted a review without the use of Google Keyword tool, and within days I'm gaining organic traffic with the keyword + long tail keywords.

        Find the trend before it becomes popular =D.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Pretty neat. I posted a review without the use of Google Keyword tool, and within days I'm gaining organic traffic with the keyword + long tail keywords.

          Find the trend before it becomes popular =D.
          That's how I do it! It really does work and it really is effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author OnlineMkter
    Good share Ashera. One questiuon, have you started paid advertising as well )like PPC) now, or still dependant on free search engine traffic?
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  • Profile picture of the author Metrix9
    Hi,
    If you dont mind, whould you please to PM me the sites that you use?

    Thanks,
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii, yes this keyword is too heavy, but sorry, many amazon products are heavy hitters on google one page, many.
    Yes you can find new gems in amazon, but you don't know if they bring traffic in future.....or are they have saisonal traffic, you don't kow this for new keywords. That is the risk.
    For this new gems I find only max.5-10 keywords its googd for a micro niche site,but I don't find 20-30 or 50 of them.

    So I will try your method with 8-12 pages micro sites, put the amazon link 3 times in my review and a customer review image, this should brings high ctr to amazon product site I hope and on my home page I have a 300 word description product summary content.
    ThenI build backlinks with a good recommend fiver gig- one fiverr gig (one gig for each micro site),not 3-5 gigs.

    So I will build 30 such micro sites, then I will see in about next 10-12 months should I make 3-4000$ monthly with theese micro sites or not.(1% conversion rate, 800 user traffic in month, price range over 200$).

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author xMizzlex
    Hey,

    I'm using the AzonAdvice theme. I would like to know if a regular magazine would convert higher or should this theme be fine.

    Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Anything clean and professional looking will work. I prefer to stay away from "Amazon" themes because everyone is using them. I want to stand out since I'm looking for repeat traffic.
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    • Profile picture of the author latrice17
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Anything clean and professional looking will work. I prefer to stay away from "Amazon" themes because everyone is using them. I want to stand out since I'm looking for repeat traffic.
      I agree with Wolfmmiii. I tend to use different themes with each of my review sites just to mix it up a bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Sometimes I rank above Amazon and sometimes below. I don't keep track of which positions, specifically. Although I prefer to hit #1 - #5, as long as I hit page one, I'm happy.
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    • Profile picture of the author plato123
      Hi Tom

      I have gone ahead and bought your Amazon kit. I have done some basic research and think I am ready to give it a shot! Thanks for all your advice.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by plato123 View Post

        Hi Tom

        I have gone ahead and bought your Amazon kit. I have done some basic research and think I am ready to give it a shot! Thanks for all your advice.
        Thanks. I'm always glad to assist.
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  • Profile picture of the author latrice17
    Wolfmmii, I shot you a pm about the kit.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by latrice17 View Post

      Wolfmmii, I shot you a pm about the kit.
      Hi Latrice. I see it in there. I was away in NY for my kid's soccer games the last few days. I'm working through my backlog of PMs before I'm off to his soccer practice at 7. I'll try and touch base this evening.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    More than 60% of my traffic comes from various long tail keywords, as you can see from todays stats so far on one of my better sites, there are over 90 different terms I get traffic from.

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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      More than 60% of my traffic comes from various long tail keywords, as you can see from todays stats so far on one of my better sites, there are over 90 different terms I get traffic from.

      I'm seeing the same with most of my sites tbh. The key is to have a lot of well written content. More content = more chances to pick up long-tail traffic. Most of the keywords are so random - nearly impossible to guess.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        More content = more chances to pick up long-tail traffic. Most of the keywords are so random - nearly impossible to guess.
        This is the reason I don't rely on keyword tools when I build my own sites. There are so many variations that I get traffic from that all of the small traffic adds up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      More than 60% of my traffic comes from various long tail keywords, as you can see from todays stats so far on one of my better sites, there are over 90 different terms I get traffic from.

      Ashera, could you tell me what program you use to check your stats?

      Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    It's possible when you use amazon long descripton keyword title that it could be easier to rank for that key, I don't know, so like that example;
    "Canon PowerShot S100 12.1 MP Digital Camera review"

    Google has stop words and other algorithms, so its possible that the key "Canon PowerShot S100 12.1 MP Digital Camera review" ranks on same google page one as the other more competitiv keyword;"Canon PowerShot review".

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    my question to the amazon and adsense master here;

    Is it a problem when my amazon affiliate sites done well or adsense sites, when I later change my business legal form from individual entrepreneur to a company like a Ltd. or Corp.??
    Also from marco005 to marco online services Ltd. as example with another adress and another bank account? (I live in europe).

    What does amazon need when I change my legal business form? And where to send it?
    per fax? online?

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    wolfmmiii; does you make your link to the amazon page blue?
    or does you have all your links on your site,title, link in sidebar and so on...in blue??
    is that not to many blue on a site allways blue links...???
    when you make all your links blue, your links in the sidebar, the title in blue ,adds links inblue and so on, the site looks like these "overblue" adsense themes....

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post


      wolfmmiii; does you make your link to the amazon page blue?
      Some of my sites use all blue links and some blend the links into the theme. I actually prefer blue links because they stand out.
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      • Profile picture of the author plato123
        Hi Tom

        Just sent you a PM, as I make my way through my first site.

        Thanks!
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      • Profile picture of the author latrice17
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Some of my sites use all blue links and some blend the links into the theme. I actually prefer blue links because they stand out.
        Have you tried themes were the affiliate links came out colors other than blue? If so, do you think that it effected your click through rate?

        The current theme I am using actually creates light green links.

        I also replied to the PM you sent earlier.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Hi Latrice...

    In my experiences (dating back to my early MFA days), blue links have always performed better than all else. I got your PM and will get an email out to you this evening.

    Tom
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    • Profile picture of the author latrice17
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Hi Latrice...

      In my experiences (dating back to my early MFA days), blue links have always performed better than all else. I got your PM and will get an email out to you this evening.

      Tom
      Okay, Thanks. I will change the color of my links to blue using the editor in wordpress.
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    11 page with useful info, thank you for new update info.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    thanks wolfmmiii, I have read your "build a product review long tail site" it is a short pdf but well worth to read, wolfmmiii brings it to the point,explain his system simple.
    wolfmmiii-your the amazon man!

    best wishes
    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    does anyone can recommend a free alternative to the azon builder plugin?

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author bigjonnyg
    Wonder if I could sell my products on amazon... ill have to look into it more
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    • Profile picture of the author naish83
      Definitely I will give it a try very soon, thanks to everyone in this great post as I've learnt more in these 2 days than in last 6 months
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by jaisonjt View Post

      Phew, that was a whole lot of information in this thread. I really want to try out amazon in my website..
      Yes it is. So if you are going to try your hand as an Amazon affiliate, choose a single strategy, commit to it, and see it through. Although I feel my strategy is the best, you may prefer something else. Just be sure to stick with whatever you do.
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      • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Yes it is. So if you are going to try your hand as an Amazon affiliate, choose a single strategy, commit to it, and see it through. Although I feel my strategy is the best, you may prefer something else. Just be sure to stick with whatever you do.
        Wolfmmiii,

        Have you been affected in any way with the Penguin update as far as traffic and income with your Amazon sites to what "Cooler1" has experienced?
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

          Wolfmmiii,

          Have you been affected in any way with the Penguin update as far as traffic and income with your Amazon sites to what "Cooler1" has experienced?
          For the most part, no. I can only assume that is only because I don't build backlinks and my content is solid. Now, I do have some autoblogs and lower quality sites that have issues now and again but they are not my primary money sites.
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          • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            For the most part, no. I can only assume that is only because I don't build backlinks and my content is solid. Now, I do have some autoblogs and lower quality sites that have issues now and again but they are not my primary money sites.
            When you are setting up a site in a particular niche do you just start off with just 1-2 reviews of products in that niche and see what sort of traffic you get before building up the site?

            Or do you plan the whole site in advance, get like 10 reviews ready at first and then launch the site with all 10 reviews and then wait 1-2 weeks to see how the site does with traffic and conversions before adding more reviews every week?
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

              When you are setting up a site in a particular niche do you just start off with just 1-2 reviews of products in that niche and see what sort of traffic you get before building up the site?

              Or do you plan the whole site in advance, get like 10 reviews ready at first and then launch the site with all 10 reviews and then wait 1-2 weeks to see how the site does with traffic and conversions before adding more reviews every week?
              When I setup a site, I'll spend a day or so perfecting the sidebar, the layout, the header, etc. Once that's done, I'll add a handful of reviews within the first day or two. I then add 1 or 2 per day until I have 25-50 product reviews posted.

              Generally speaking, the site is usually indexed within a few days. Within a week or so, most (if not all) of the reviews are usually indexed and most ranked on page one for the targeted terms.

              If, after a month or so (I follow very few, if any, hard and fast rules), things aren't looking good from a traffic/conversion standpoint, I'll just leave it sit and start work on my next site, chalking it up to a learning experience.
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              • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post


                Within a week or so, most (if not all) of the reviews are usually indexed and most ranked on page one for the targeted terms.
                When you say you rank on page 1 for the targeted terms are you referring to the keyword that is your title for each review page for example "BrandName Model# Review" type of keywords or are you coming up on page 1 for alot of other much longer tail keywords that will have parts of those keywords?

                Is each review that you do is title structured similar to what I mentioned above or is it better to make those a bit long tail as well and add a few more descriptive terms in the title for each review similar to what Amazon does...so would a title like this be good "Canon PowerShot S100 12.1 MP Digital Camera with 5x Wide Angle Optical Image Stabilized Zoom Review"or if this was an easy product I went after it would be better to do the title/main keyword as "Canon Powershot S100 Review" instead?
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

                  When you say you rank on page 1 for the targeted terms are you referring to the keyword that is your title for each review page for example "BrandName Model# Review" type of keywords or are you coming up on page 1 for alot of other much longer tail keywords that will have parts of those keywords?
                  I typically rank for my main keyword ("buy productname" , "productname review", "productname", etc). I also rank for all kinds of related terms.

                  I try to keep my post (review) titles to 5 words or less.
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              • Profile picture of the author koreancowboy
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                When I setup a site, I'll spend a day or so perfecting the sidebar, the layout, the header, etc. Once that's done, I'll add a handful of reviews within the first day or two. I then add 1 or 2 per day until I have 25-50 product reviews posted.

                Generally speaking, the site is usually indexed within a few days. Within a week or so, most (if not all) of the reviews are usually indexed and most ranked on page one for the targeted terms.

                If, after a month or so (I follow very few, if any, hard and fast rules), things aren't looking good from a traffic/conversion standpoint, I'll just leave it sit and start work on my next site, chalking it up to a learning experience.
                I kinda of do this, but not specifically...but I will implement this guideline now. It'll help me keep track of things. Thanks dood!
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    So far this month, i've only earned $7 with Amazon. Awful I know. Before Penguin I was earning about $500/week. Traffic has just dried up and rankings become even worser since the April 26th update.

    Has anyone here decided to start on new domains for their penguinized Amazon sites or are you sticking it out and trying to get your sites to recover from Penguin?

    I don't use anything like keyword stuffing or hidden text, so I guess that the Penguin trigger must be due to off page factors. I don't know how important anchor text variation is. Some people are even saying that penalizations based on backlink anchor text ratio is myth, which makes things even more confusing.
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    • Profile picture of the author naish83
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      So far this month, i've only earned $7 with Amazon. Awful I know. Before Penguin I was earning about $500/week. Traffic has just dried up and rankings become even worser since the April 26th update.

      Has anyone here decided to start on new domains for their penguinized Amazon sites or are you sticking it out and trying to get your sites to recover from Penguin?

      I don't use anything like keyword stuffing or hidden text, so I guess that the Penguin trigger must be due to off page factors. I don't know how important anchor text variation is. Some people are even saying that penalizations based on backlink anchor text ratio is myth, which makes things even more confusing.
      What is your OFF page strategy? How many visitors were you getting before and after penguin?
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by naish83 View Post

        What is your OFF page strategy? How many visitors were you getting before and after penguin?
        Do you mean my off page strategy before the Penguin update? I built backlinks mostly from social bookmarking, articles, web directories and videos. I did use AMR also, but I didn't submit more than about 3 articles per site and the success rate wasn't that good so I don't know if that could be one of the causations.

        I didn't vary the anchor text enough because when linking to my homepage, I mainly used just two variations of the main keyword. For example if my site primary keyword was dishwasher reviews, I used "dishwasher reviews" and "dishwashers reviews" as the anchors. However, im not sure if Penguin is penalizing for the lack of anchor text variety or because of the link quality.

        The number of visitors varies on each site. Before I was getting around 60-100 visitors a day, now traffic is down to about 2 visitors a day on most sites.
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        • Profile picture of the author naish83
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          Do you mean my off page strategy before the Penguin update? I built backlinks mostly from social bookmarking, articles, web directories and videos. I did use AMR also, but I didn't submit more than about 3 articles per site and the success rate wasn't that good so I don't know if that could be one of the causations.

          I didn't vary the anchor text enough because when linking to my homepage, I mainly used just two variations of the main keyword. For example if my site primary keyword was dishwasher reviews, I used "dishwasher reviews" and "dishwashers reviews" as the anchors. However, im not sure if Penguin is penalizing for the lack of anchor text variety or because of the link quality.

          The number of visitors varies on each site. Before I was getting around 60-100 visitors a day, now traffic is down to about 2 visitors a day on most sites.
          ouchh!! Penguin really hit your sites, everyone talks about backlinks diversity and not focusing just in 2-3 keywords for backlinking as it's your case.

          May be your site will come up again in a few days.
          Good luck
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          • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
            Originally Posted by naish83 View Post

            ouchh!! Penguin really hit your sites, everyone talks about backlinks diversity and not focusing just in 2-3 keywords for backlinking as it's your case.

            May be your site will come up again in a few days.
            Good luck
            I have sites that sailed through both Penguin updates with nothing else but 6000+ low quality links built using very diverse anchors (300+ variations).

            If any of you are considering giving up on your sites, try sending a few thousands low quality, super diverse links at a couple sites, just as a test. I mean, you might as well, right?
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            • Profile picture of the author cooler1
              Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

              I have sites that sailed through both Penguin updates with nothing else but 6000+ low quality links built using very diverse anchors (300+ variations).

              If any of you are considering giving up on your sites, try sending a few thousands low quality, super diverse links at a couple sites, just as a test. I mean, you might as well, right?
              What type of low quality links do you recommend building? Blog comments or something else? Wouldn't doing this mean there is a chance the site will recieve an unnatural links notice in GWT?

              I sent about 7000 wiki links to one of my sites about 1 week ago. None of the links are showing in backlink checkers yet. Im not sure whether to ping them or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerjaysen
    Hey man very cool. So you say you have your own blog network, that I'm assuming hasn't been hit by Panda from your comments. I too love Amazon over Adsense strictly for the earnings potential.
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      I don't think I've ever seen such a blatant attempt to hijack a thread as in this one.

      Great info, Ashera - I've made notes on several of your posts that pointed out several things/methods I hadn't thought of for amazon sites.

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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    does auto poster works? It's a free online tool tobuild social bookmark backlinks.
    But I think you must manual open an account for each bookmarking site first and then you can use this tool,a little bit pain in work,when it's done autoposter works automatically.

    Does it works? To build 10-15 backlinks for each of my deeper page (product pages)???
    Like this; 20-25 sb backlinks to the emd domain and 10-15 sb backlinks to each deeper page.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author naish83
    wolfmmiii,

    Do you get comission of purchases made from Amazon Canada, Uk... or you just can get comissions from products sold in Amazon US?
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by naish83 View Post

      wolfmmiii,

      Do you get comission of purchases made from Amazon Canada, Uk... or you just can get comissions from products sold in Amazon US?
      Just US. I've played around with link localizers and haven't ruled them out yet (I belong to almost every country-specific Amazon program) but, for now, I stick with Amazon US so that's all I receive commissions on.
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      • Profile picture of the author naish83
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Just US. I've played around with link localizers and haven't ruled them out yet (I belong to almost every country-specific Amazon program) but, for now, I stick with Amazon US so that's all I receive commissions on.
        So you got different domains promoting same article for different countries?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Folks...

    As much as I enjoy assisting you all, I am going to extricate myself from this thread for while. If you have questions about any of the information I've presented in this thread, feel free to PM me.

    Regards,

    Tom
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    nobody use auto poster to build sb backlinks?

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author johnnys229
    Ashera, I definitely agree, Amazon > Adsense by a long shot. I just love selling high ticket items.

    I have a question about your private blog network - how many blogs are in your network and what was the total cost to make the network?
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    it's hard work to make such amazon sites, out an lager image in wordpress-link image to amazon product page, then put the amazon product link under the image-link to amazon
    and last put the buy now amazon button in th ewp page and link to amazon.

    manual is hard work.

    when you make sb backlinks with auto poster, so you need many free email accounts-when you willbuild 80-100 adsense oramazon sites you need an free email account for each niche site.

    most sb sites don't accept commercial emails like;info@(emd keyword).com as example.they only most accepted free email accounts like blogger or googlemail.

    you can not open 100 googlemail accounts I think this is too risky.

    its many of hard manual work-when you start with zero.

    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    for amazon micro sites or bigger sites with azon builder, is it enough to have 50-60% unique written content or it must be 100% unique?

    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      for amazon micro sites or bigger sites with azon builder, is it enough to have 50-60% unique written content or it must be 100% unique?

      marco005
      Your best bet is to go all unique. Chances are good that your visitors have already been to amazon.com. They already know what others have to say. They came to your site to hear what YOU have to say about the product.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Thanks wolfmmiii.
    Yeah I thinkits best I write in my own words unique written reviews.

    marco005
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    Do you do private mentoring ?Please PM me
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by thereviewsguruDOTcom View Post

      Ashera
      Do you do private mentoring ?Please PM me
      No, I do not and have no plans to.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    On 1.July I have make my first order to an filipino writer (30 product reviews) , next day I become the email from them that paypal payment was sucsessfull and now I'm waiting for my articles.

    16 days is a little bit long I hope the writer is serious or is that deliver time normal by filipino writers???
    Will wait end of this week and see.

    I think I will for the next orders look for another writer who is work faster.

    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      On 1.July I have make my first order to an filipino writer (30 product reviews) , next day I become the email from them that paypal payment was sucsessfull and now I'm waiting for my articles.

      16 days is a little bit long I hope the writer is serious or is that deliver time normal by filipino writers???
      Will wait end of this week and see.

      I think I will for the next orders look for another writer who is work faster.

      marco005
      Hmmm....contact the person and ask him/her what the deal is. I'm American Filipino, and people stereotype us on never being on time (which is mostly true =P).
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    @GGpaul; what? filipino writer are not so on time?
    when it is so (i hope) its not a great malheur when the articles are great written-I will see.I will wait end of this week.

    This writer says he writes 5000 words within 5 days, I have ordered 30 articles each with 250 words.So when he wait 4-5 days to have the money from me (european paypal bank wire to philippine ) now we have the 16.july.
    Ok weekend he is not working, when he has the money on lets say the 5.july,after then the deliver time runs, only the factory for days not the weekend, so time from 9-16.july now is six days.

    I think the paypal bank transfer time (european-philipine a few days so 4-5 days) is here the loss of time.I think positive it will be allright.

    marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    I have see this site; AGTStore.com, this site has no information content only a few sentence, a few customer revies sentence all from amazon, it's a big site.

    Does such sites / astores makes huge sales,I wonder that this site convert high with the amazon affiliate program????


    best wishes
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    AStores, in my experience, have converted terribly. I recommend staying away from them. After all, it's easy enough to create your own unique (helpful) content anyway.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Pretty cool...I'm ranking keywords that aren't even ranked 1-3 on Google, I guess it's the long tail that comes along with it!

    @Wolfmiii I'm now averagine 35 search engine views a day. Which doubled from last week. Made two sales. Time to build more and more.
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    • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Pretty cool...I'm ranking keywords that aren't even ranked 1-3 on Google, I guess it's the long tail that comes along with it!

      @Wolfmiii I'm now averagine 35 search engine views a day. Which doubled from last week. Made two sales. Time to build more and more.
      Is this from 1 Amazon site and how many reviews do you have on this site? How long have you had this site up?

      Are you writing the reviews yourself or outsourcing?
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by mrtrance View Post

        Is this from 1 Amazon site and how many reviews do you have on this site? How long have you had this site up?

        Are you writing the reviews yourself or outsourcing?
        1 Amazon site, 21 reviews. I've had the domain name for a year plus. I didn't do anything with the domain until two-three weeks ago. And that's because I failed miserably with the other content/product reviews that I've added.

        I'm doing a bit of both. I outsource through iwriter and I buff it up a bit because the writers aren't that great.
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    thanks for your post!
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  • Profile picture of the author Topwriters
    Banned
    I admire your capability of handling multiple sites. I am going crazy with just one, and I cannot imagine myself having more....
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by Topwriters View Post

      I admire your capability of handling multiple sites. I am going crazy with just one, and I cannot imagine myself having more....
      It's not that bad. I post 1-2 posts a day on an amazon site. That takes me literally 30 min to an hour. What do I do the rest of the day? Post another 1-2 post on another amazon site. The beginning stages is a bit time consuming, since you got to set up the theme, etc. etc.

      But after all that, you can get the ball rolling just by adding 1-2 posts a day on multiple sites.

      5 amazon sites = 10 posts all together. That can be done within 8 hours or less depending on how fast you write, if you're a good writer, or even quicker if you hire someone.

      And you just build build build build!
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    the one thing I don't understand by some amazon affiliate marketers is, they make their site not like set and forget it method, they ad daily 1-2 posts on them.

    What about do you write on these 1-2 posts? Or are these posts-product reviews?
    I find the set and forget it method better,build monthly 1-2 amazon niche sites with 10 or 20 pages, let it rank- make sales, and after 1-1,5 years you build more new content (new products) to these sites, that is what I like.

    Daily post and then after? Pinging only and nothing?

    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      5 amazon sites = 10 posts all together. That can be done within 8 hours or less depending on how fast you write, if you're a good writer, or even quicker if you hire someone.
      Yep. I can research + write 5 good articles per day, that's about my limit. I'm talking 1000 word articles and extensive research. That's only because I know my niche very well though.

      It's very hard to find good writers with decent research skills. I was paying $3/100 words at one point, but now it just makes more sense to have a routine where I write 1-2 good articles every morning and then get on with other tasks. Outsourcing just 2 articles per day would cost me $60+, $150/day for 5 articles...

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      the one thing I don't understand by some amazon affiliate marketers is, they make their site not like set and forget it method, they ad daily 1-2 posts on them.
      They keep adding content because they want to target more keywords and get more traffic. Why move on to the next site/project if you haven't fully exhausted your current niche yet? It's just as "set and forget it" as building lots of smaller sites. Pages are pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    I now waiting for my articles I have ordered and payed about 3 weeks from my filipin writer,his answer is always; "in the week"- but that can be mean all....

    My next order I use another writer, when he can give me in my order confirmation not a deliver date - I not make the deal-I not pay,simple.

    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      I now waiting for my articles I have ordered and payed about 3 weeks from my filipin writer,his answer is always; "in the week"- but that can be mean all....

      My next order I use another writer, when he can give me in my order confirmation not a deliver date - I not make the deal-I not pay,simple.

      marco005
      Where did you hire the writer from?
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    Today a month from my order is gone, I have not become my articles who I have payed.
    I will not do any business in future with this filipin writer, shame of that criminal, 70$
    are burned I have lost.

    In fortune I will hire a writer from the warriorforum who has good reputations.

    marco005
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  • Thanks for sharing your huge success story. I hear more about amazon, but i don't have experience in that. Now my mind just strike to go amazon.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      I stayed up to 3 in the morning reading this thread, always meant to but never got around to it. I've been keeping up with most threads focused on niche sites, trying to get more info, before I try it myself. But half way through this thread I find out that Ashera's earning may or may not even be what he says they were, which means most of the info I gained could be based on a lie, idk.

      Than wolf takes over, but his method is a little different than what I want to do right now, even though I will probably buy wolf's book, I want to stick to a proven method of just finding a keyword a ranking for it.

      This thread is crazy especially how people still came on here congratulating Ashera, even though somebody pointed out 3 different post where he claimed much different earnings. Now I am not one to point fingers or bash anyone, but I feel a little pissed that I stayed up to read what I thought was a valuable thread only to find out the person who started said they made 700 a month, than turns around and say they make 700 a day all because he took adsense off his sites, and some people actually believed that and asked for WSOs lol.
      You apparently did not read if you assume that I went from $700 a month to $700 a day by simply "taking off Adsense..."... but like I said 100 times, I have nothing to gain by lying, and nothing to gain by you believing me.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        You apparently did not read if you assume that I went from $700 a month to $700 a day by simply "taking off Adsense..."... but like I said 100 times, I have nothing to gain by lying, and nothing to gain by you believing me.
        FWIW, I believe you. I've followed this thread as well. I read the initial posts questioning you and I read your rebuttal, and frankly, it rang true to me.

        The biggest finger pointing came from someone who is trolling every single amazon thread on WF, showing off their sig line, trying to sell their amazon course.

        Ashera, if you ever put something together, I'll buy it. In the meantime, I've cut/pasted all your posts in this thread. Thanks for sharing your insights.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post


          The biggest finger pointing came from someone who is trolling every single amazon thread on WF, showing off their sig line, trying to sell their amazon course.
          I don't sell any courses nor was I the one who initially pointed out discrepancies. Go re-read the thread. :rolleyes:

          If you want to believe that someone who was making $700 per month in April (or whatever month it was) suddenly started earning $700 PER DAY inside of a month or two, that's your prerogative. I choose to be skeptical about such claims. But hey, to each his own.

          My apologies to Ashera ahead of time on this but since I'm being called out as the bad guy here I really have no option but to point out all of the discrepancies pointed out in this thread.

          Below are virtually all of the posts in this thread where potential inconsistencies were pointed out BY OTHER MEMBERS. Note that I was NOT the one who initially accused him of anything.

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6274140

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6274399

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6274415

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6274666

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6274746

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6276931

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6277041

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6277055

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6277061

          http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post6219950

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6278768

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6281105


          I actually thanked him in the post below:

          http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...ml#post6278680

          So, for you folks trying to make me out to be the bad guy, I'll let the posts above stand on their own merit. You decide how you want to interpret them.
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          • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            I don't sell any courses nor was I the one who initially pointed out discrepancies. Go re-read the thread. :rolleyes:
            I never said you were the one to initially point it out. Go re-read what I said. :rolleyes: It's only a few sentences and shouldn't be too taxing.

            I also didn't specify - quite purposefully - who I was talking about, but here you are telling everyone you think it's you. Why are you expending so much time and energy protesting? Some Shakespeare comes to mind.

            Bottom line he provided some VERY USEFUL info - free of charge. People here can get all caught up in numbers and/or rhetoric or they can just take advantage of information that could, quite possibly, help them attain some of their own goals. Is he lying about numbers? I really don't care. I'm smart enough to winnow the gold out of this thread an run with it. Anyone else?

            And as far as I'm concerned, enough said. If any of you feel the need to jump in with rebuttals, have at it. I've said my piece. I'm off making more money by implementing some of Ashera's insights - oh, and Wolf, some of yours too. So thanks to you both.
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

              I also didn't specify - quite purposefully - who I was talking about, but here you are telling everyone you think it's you.
              So enlighten us all then Elle. Who exactly were you referring to? Also, feel free to support the "The biggest finger pointing" comment.

              Why are you expending so much time and energy protesting? Some Shakespeare comes to mind.
              It's really not much energy at all. Took only 5 minutes or so. Are you saying it's OK for you to attack my credibility yet not OK for me to defend? Odd, don't you think?

              And as far as I'm concerned, enough said. If any of you feel the need to jump in with rebuttals, have at it. I've said my piece.
              Typical of a drive-by attack on someone. Question their character/motives and then attempt to dictate that the conversation is over when asked to defend your position.

              Fact is, I've helped hundreds of people on this forum over the last several months. I have a PM box that's overflowing because I can't keep up with the requests I receive for help because of the trust I've established with countless members of this forum.

              My information is practical and quite easily actionable (even for newbies). If you don't like me promoting that information in my signature, take it up with the mods.
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              • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                So enlighten us all then Elle. Who exactly were you referring to? Also, feel free to support the "The biggest finger pointing" comment.
                Oh, I was talking about you. I just didn't name names. If someone wanted to take the time and explore - and IMO most wouldn't - that was up to them.

                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                Fact is, I've helped hundreds of people on this forum over the last several months. I have a PM box that's overflowing because I can't keep up with the requests I receive for help because of the trust I've established with countless members of this forum.

                My information is practical and quite easily actionable (even for newbies).
                Yes you have, and yes it is. That is why I thanked BOTH you and Ashera for the insights you have shared. BOTH of you have given me something I can use in furthering my business.

                Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

                I'm off making more money by implementing some of Ashera's insights - oh, and Wolf, some of yours too. So thanks to you both.
                And as far as this goes....

                Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

                And as far as I'm concerned, enough said. If any of you feel the need to jump in with rebuttals, have at it. I've said my piece.
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                Typical of a drive-by attack on someone. Question their character/motives and then attempt to dictate that the conversation is over when asked to defend your position.
                No. That was just a realization that I'd already said too much - and likely never should have said anything in the first place.

                So, everyone, let me make something real clear here. While I may - did - question someone's - and now you all know who - motives in the one sentence directed at him...

                Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

                The biggest finger pointing came from someone who is trolling every single amazon thread on WF, showing off their sig line, trying to sell their amazon course.
                ...it was never my intention to suggest that his input isn't relevant and/or useful. The perception of any of you might be different unfortunately.

                Wolf has added value to this thread and I thanked him for it. And while I questioned his motives in his pointing out the discrepancies in Ashera's details, that does not discount his knowledge. His info has helped me - just like Ashera's has.

                They say it takes a big man to apologize. So, Wolf, I apologize for questioning your motives in open forum.
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      This thread is crazy especially how people still came on here congratulating Ashera, even though somebody pointed out 3 different post where he claimed much different earnings. Now I am not one to point fingers or bash anyone, but I feel a little pissed that I stayed up to read what I thought was a valuable thread only to find out the person who started said they made 700 a month, than turns around and say they make 700 a day all because he took adsense off his sites, and some people actually believed that and asked for WSOs lol.
      Nest28, in fairness, I tried Ashera's method and stuck to it in absolute detail and I now have three Amazon affiliate sites each making more money than any of my previous Adsense sites. I was sceptical about the whole Amazon affiliate thing as I'd tried and failed before (because I didn't do my research). Ashera was right in saying that there is much less effort involved with Amazon affiliate sites compared to Adsense (in general). I spent months writing posts and creating good backlinks for my Adsense sites, but the Amazon sites simply took a few weeks to earn much more with only 10 - 15 pages and using web 2.0 backlinks. Of course, I'll keep adding content and good quality backlinks when I have time.

      Don't be disheartened - take the plunge and use all the tips in this thread. Some marketers use slightly different techniques and you'll end up finding your own.
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      • Profile picture of the author seye
        Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

        Nest28, in fairness, I tried Ashera's method and stuck to it in absolute detail and I now have three Amazon affiliate sites each making more money than any of my previous Adsense sites. I was sceptical about the whole Amazon affiliate thing as I'd tried and failed before (because I didn't do my research). Ashera was right in saying that there is much less effort involved with Amazon affiliate sites compared to Adsense (in general). I spent months writing posts and creating good backlinks for my Adsense sites, but the Amazon sites simply took a few weeks to earn much more with only 10 - 15 pages and using web 2.0 backlinks. Of course, I'll keep adding content and good quality backlinks when I have time.

        Don't be disheartened - take the plunge and use all the tips in this thread. Some marketers use slightly different techniques and you'll end up finding your own.
        what do you mean by using web 2.0. are you using them as a site or for backlink purpose
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        • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
          Originally Posted by seye View Post

          what do you mean by using web 2.0. are you using them as a site or for backlink purpose
          Using them purely for backlinking. I've never found them to be profitable in isolation (although many people here have). I just create a number of good posts per web 2.0 with an image and/or YouTube video and one or two links back to my own site.
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          • Profile picture of the author lukasparov
            Hello Ashera, very great inspiration! grats for your success.
            I agree with you, Amazon > Adsense. because Adsense is not prospect for long term because they can ban your account at any time (cause heart attack lol). Because I'm also Amazon affiliate marketer. And I've compared the results between Adsense and Amazon, from 100 targeted visitor, my Amazon can generate more $$$ than with my previous Adsense(banned).

            Btw, your Amazon blog is micro niche sites(only 1 product and exact domain)
            or niche sites(contain dosenz product) ?

            Sorry for the bad english
            Thanks in advance.
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    • Profile picture of the author ahefner33
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      I stayed up to 3 in the morning....

      This thread is crazy especially how people still came on here congratulating Ashera, even though somebody pointed out 3 different post where he claimed much different earnings. Now I am not one to point fingers or bash anyone, but I .....
      That's why I typically will start reading from the last page and back.

      From my experience, both monetization methods will be good for someone. Amazon I have found will out earn @dsense if you hit a specific, widely available product and has a decent payout and you have moved up the % payout structure. @dsense, you can def. earn well with low volume when you tackle finance. edu, medical.

      But really it all comes down to your traffic and value.
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  • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
    This may have been asked before...but do you have an example of one of your Amazon sites as well as an Adsense site? I'd be very interested to see the flow and design of your site as well as glancing over the articles for my own educational purposes.

    PM me a link or two if you'd be comfortable with that.

    PS. Don't worry, I'm nowhere near even completing a site yet so I won't be competition hah.
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  • Profile picture of the author kite6w
    Ashera, is it possible if I can add you to skype and ask you some questions on Amazon review site? I am not new to Amazon site, but want some more instructions if possible. I can compensate for your time. Thanks. My email is iquangtt @ gmail
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  • Profile picture of the author shalwan
    dont you think its hard to sell a product from amazon ? unless you know the buyer ?
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    wow that's really awesome, keep up the great work.
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    Hi,

    @cooler1; the writer I hired from craiglist

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  • Profile picture of the author solemanali
    your earnings just inspired me to work more and more until I make money like you. Thanks for sharing your success with us.
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  • Profile picture of the author greatar4
    Congratulation, I hope on day I can make that kind of money. If you have more 40 sites, how do you promote all of them? How much time do you spend optimizing all of them? I have just a few, I can see how overwhelmed it is.

    As far as monetizing a site is concerned, both alternatives which are Ad-sense and Amazon has advantages and disadvantages. The advantage of ad-sense is that people don't really have to buy something and you get paid any time your ads get clicked, unlike Amazon. The disadvantage is that, you don't make a lot of money when your ads get clicked, unlike Amazon. With amazon, the advantage is that if your site convert well, you can make far more money than using Google Ad-sense. On the other hand, if your does not convert well, ad-sense can be more beneficial.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tanya E
    Why I love Amazon over Adsense is because I get to write Amazon product reviews which are more challenging and rewarding than writing articles made for Adsense! Well, maybe that's being a bit too honest :-).

    Another reason is that Amazon is much more affiliate-friendly than Adsense is to its publishers. Amazon helps you much more by making visitors whom you send to their site, stick around for a longer duration of time and keep showing them an infinite array of products until they buy something!

    If you follow the Amazon Associates terms and conditions you will stay in business for a much longer time than being in business with Adsense. I have read about top Adsense earners losing their accounts and leaving them high and dry, many without any alternate source of income.

    I have heard more people complain about being kicked out of Adsense than from the Amazon Associates program. Though I am not trying to justify any kind of wrongdoing but I have hard many Adsense publishers asking, "what have i done wrong?!"

    If you know how to choose the right products and drive traffic you can earn much more with Amazon Associates than Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author himanuzo
    For this case, Google is the main traffic source in making money with the Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Couple angry lads in this thread for some odd reason, spending too much time writing 800 word posts for WF that are nonsense, trying to be online private investigators, when instead they should be spending that time writing a 800 word review that could make them $1,000's.

    What WOULD you believe? Do you want a picture of my new Panerai watch or my new Audi ? This is pointless bantering.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      Couple angry lads in this thread for some odd reason, spending too much time writing 800 word posts for WF that are nonsense, trying to be online private investigators, when instead they should be spending that time writing a 800 word review that could make them $1,000's.

      What WOULD you believe? Do you want a picture of my new Panerai watch or my new Audi ? This is pointless bantering.
      Ashera....

      My irritation has never been directed at you. As I said in a previous post, if it's working for you, go with it and don't worry about what others think. However, for me personally, going from $700 per month to $700 per day in the span of three weeks seems odd, that's all.

      Some folks were trying to make me out to be the bad guy when I wasn't even the one doing the sleuthing. I had no choice but to defend myself - that's all.

      I appreciate Elle's olive branch and it's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.

      At the end of the day, some will believe that you went from $700/month to $700/day in the span of 3 weeks. Some won't. If you are in fact earning that kind of money, it shouldn't really matter to you all that much anyway so don't sweat it.

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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Ashera....

        My irritation has never been directed at you. As I said in a previous post, if it's working for you, go with it and don't worry about what others think. However, for me personally, going from $700 per month to $700 per day in the span of three weeks seems odd, that's all.

        Some folks were trying to make me out to be the bad guy when I wasn't even the one doing the sleuthing. I had no choice but to defend myself - that's all.

        I appreciate Elle's olive branch and it's water under the bridge as far as I'm concerned.

        At the end of the day, some will believe that you went from $700/month to $700/day in the span of 3 weeks. Some won't. If you are in fact earning that kind of money, it shouldn't really matter to you all that much anyway so don't sweat it.

        Tom
        I don't sweat it, which is why I rarely post on this thread or in WF at all.
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        • Profile picture of the author chrisonbd
          Hey Ashera thanks for all the info you've given in this thread. And thanks to you Wolfmmii and a few of the other posters too (not the ones who evidently ask random questions without reading any of the thread! :rolleyes

          Although there has been some arguments between you all it only helped to add different angles and analysis to the topic, its all good
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    • Profile picture of the author alksense
      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      What WOULD you believe? Do you want a picture of my new Panerai watch or my new Audi ? This is pointless bantering.
      A picture of you wearing the Panerai while driving the Audi
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  • Profile picture of the author bxuhub
    Congrats to your success!

    Is it possible to at least know or have one of your sites' link.

    Thanks,

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  • Profile picture of the author AmazonGenius
    Hey Ashera great article and I agree Amazon is A LOT more profitable than Adsense. I've never been a huge fan of Adsense but have actively selling on Amazon for the last 15 years. Actually just started a website to help new and professional Amazon sellers. FYI- We have an article titled "5 things EVERYONE should know BEFORE selling on Amazon" and I highly recommend everyone reads it before selling on Amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author unikbit
    I was looking for an amozon guide after I did 500 hotel booking websites, need to test with products to see how is working

    Thanks Ashera for starting this
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    Truly inspirational. Thanks for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Funkymonkeyman
    This thread is awesome. Well done. An inspiration for people like me who are starting out. Bravo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Funkymonkeyman
    Ashera, for your "Read more comment" does it lead to another page? or just extend the article/
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  • Profile picture of the author Funkymonkeyman
    Ashera, what and how exactly do you use the amazon product in a post plugin? Still not sure what its for and where you use it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pinchin Cents
    Wow, I have been signed up for Warrior forum for months and then lost my password and never bothered to get a new one. I am glad I finally did - you all are so full of information! I'm an amazon affiliate and I get a ton of clicks on amazon, but no buys - I wonder what the difference is. I sure wish I could see your website.

    Anyway, thanks for a great and helpful post. You all seem so helpful - I love that!
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by Pinchin Cents View Post

      Wow, I have been signed up for Warrior forum for months and then lost my password and never bothered to get a new one. I am glad I finally did - you all are so full of information! I'm an amazon affiliate and I get a ton of clicks on amazon, but no buys - I wonder what the difference is. I sure wish I could see your website.

      Anyway, thanks for a great and helpful post. You all seem so helpful - I love that!
      This is a demo site I show people when they ask how I do things and how my software works. It earns a commission every now and again but I use it primarily as a demo site so I don't count it among my money sites.

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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        This is a demo site I show people when they ask how I do things and how my software works. It earns a commission every now and again but I use it primarily as a demo site so I don't count it among my money sites.

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        Morning wolfmmiii. I usually don't get up this early, but after making a couple sales this weekend, I have to! LOL. Thanks to your strategy
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Morning wolfmmiii. I usually don't get up this early, but after making a couple sales this weekend, I have to! LOL. Thanks to your strategy
          Hey man! Glad to see my strategy is paying dividends for you!
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  • Profile picture of the author venkateshk
    Hi Ashera, Thanks for the loads of information that you have provided and they all seem genuine. I have got some serious tips that I would be implementing on my Amazon focussed site.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Jerry
    I little light just popped on in my brain. It was startling enough that my head actually moved a mm or two. I think I just had one of those "eureka" moments. I use Adsense and Amazon and PeerFly. Only Adsense has paid me money, but... That light went off. I think I see a light at the end of a long, dark Amazon tunnel...stay tuned.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Although I don't really consider it a money site of mine, this site does occasionally earn a commission or two. I use this site primarily as a sample site to demo my software:

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    • Profile picture of the author boomerevents
      Thanks so much. I appreciate the sample. I see what you are talking about and I think something like this would work great for some of my websites. Thanks for your help.
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    How many days takes to get your cheque each month
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    • Profile picture of the author PazG
      Amazing thread. I've just finished writing my 4th review on my first amazon site. I have decided to do an Ashera/Wolfmiii hybrid site. Excited to see how it works out, wish me luck guys!
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  • Profile picture of the author unikbit
    how you know when a product is out of amazon list and need to replace the review of a product?
    how often happen this
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    What happened to the other thread started by GGpaul?
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    Scroll down you'll see it.
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  • Profile picture of the author unikbit
    I have compiled all ashera answers into word document, just copy paste, just pm me to send you if need it.
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    Paul,
    I have scrolled down but nothing found....
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  • Profile picture of the author surinsa
    unikbit Thank you for sending me Ashera's extract. I am already working on websites on Wolf's style just wanted to read and keep notes on Ashera's techniques.
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    They closed my thread. Oh well.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Makes me wonder why this thread is okay and the other thread not, it both looks pretty similiar to me, while this one is full of nonsense, $700 in 24 hrs uhu...
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  • Profile picture of the author chow
    Wow. This tread has taken me a couple of hours to read over 2 days but I am glad I did. All of the FREE information in this tread could be a WSO. Thanks everyone for the ideas. I am going to go put them to work today!
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  • Profile picture of the author anwar001
    This thread has become too long that it is difficult to find all the useful information. When are you planning to put up the PDF containing all your posts?

    By the way, when you start a new amazon website, usually how many days does it take for you to start earning some money from it?
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  • Profile picture of the author unikbit
    Paul,

    Why they closed your thread?
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by unikbit View Post

      Paul,

      Why they closed your thread?
      I wish I knew.
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  • Profile picture of the author unikbit
    anwar001 from ashera's answers I deduct he start earning something after the website is ranked in first 3 position in G, so in almost 3 months
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  • Profile picture of the author DesertSand
    This thread was a trip. Just read all 13 pages. There are a bunch of ... Well. Just a bunch of people on here.
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      Originally Posted by DesertSand View Post

      This thread was a trip. Just read all 13 pages. There are a bunch of ... Well. Just a bunch of people on here.
      People love threads like this
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  • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
    Congrats on your success. Amazon is really better than Adsense when it comes to conversions. Also, it covers a wide variety of niches. If you just keep on building some sites, it will make you money. Thanks for inspiring people.
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  • Profile picture of the author wildster
    Thanks a ton, this was clearly worth the time it took to read.
    Will try this method right away.

    1 question though, do you recommend making different domains for each site, or I could do something like www.vacuumcleaners.t-reviews.com www.headsets.t-reviews.com etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Nest is enjoying wearing his Casio with his anti backlinking while I enjoy my Panerai. Lovely.
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Explain how you go from 700 a month to 700 a day and I'll gladly shut up. You don't know me, you don't know what I do or don't have. If I had been accused of lying I would have proved that I wasn't one.

        When it was pointed out that you made posts stating you wasn't making that much , you stop posting, why? I read this entire thread and there is nothing you can say that would change my mind about you.

        The fact the people still congratulates this guy is crazy, and you had the nerve to come on my thread and tell me what I was doing wasn't making enough money , when you lied about your income, and probably your methods.

        You seem to want to focus on me calling you a liar and not the real issue, which is proving that your not, why would you say hey I make 700 a month just 2 weeks prior to making a thread where you state you make 700 a day.

        I really don't care about you or this corny thread, like I said I was mad because I read this thread thinking I had gain a bunch of great info only to find out I you lied.

        Maybe I only made 2 grand a month but it was real. If you want to follow this guy go ahead I'm done. Don't say nothing to me dude and I'll do the same,deuces .
        Uh oh, sounds like somebody just got busted!

        If not, well congratulations on some out of this world success.
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      • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        The fact the people still congratulates this guy is crazy
        I can't speak for anyone else's experience, but Ashera's detailed information helped me set up a very lucrative Amazon product review site. No-one else on this forum provided me with the same level of help. Sure, people gave a little assistance, but not as detailed (I had to work out the rest). That's why Ashera's figures don't mean anything to me because he has already proved in other ways he knows what he's doing. Now I don't know any of you guys personally, but there are many on here who stretch the truth and those that won't really help you unless you buy their WSO. Ashera gave away his information for free and he isn't selling a WSO.

        So you see why I have to congratulate Ashera. At the end of the day we all want to be a success with our sites and this thread is perfect for those who are just starting out. Ashera's method is really no different to what others have been doing (although it probably needs a little adjusting post penguin). If his method had been revolutionary but a complete flop when implemented by IMers, I would be agreeing with you.
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Explain how you go from 700 a month to 700 a day and I'll gladly shut up. You don't know me, you don't know what I do or don't have. If I had been accused of lying I would have proved that I wasn't one.

        When it was pointed out that you made posts stating you wasn't making that much , you stop posting, why? I read this entire thread and there is nothing you can say that would change my mind about you.

        The fact the people still congratulates this guy is crazy, and you had the nerve to come on my thread and tell me what I was doing wasn't making enough money , when you lied about your income, and probably your methods.

        You seem to want to focus on me calling you a liar and not the real issue, which is proving that your not, why would you say hey I make 700 a month just 2 weeks prior to making a thread where you state you make 700 a day.

        I really don't care about you or this corny thread, like I said I was mad because I read this thread thinking I had gain a bunch of great info only to find out I you lied.

        Maybe I only made 2 grand a month but it was real. If you want to follow this guy go ahead I'm done. Don't say nothing to me dude and I'll do the same,deuces .
        Don't have anything to prove to anyone unless I'm trying to make money off you, which I'm not. Enjoy your "success" and I'll enjoy mine.

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    what happen if a visitors from UK want to buy from your amazon website and your account is for US?
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    I definitely plan on more sites focusing on it
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    yes that is the key; to know the exact method to get 700 visitors a day.
    That is what we all need,same as ranking on spot 3,4,8 on google first page, the 700 visitors a day are would be enough (target traffic not all source/social traffic from elsewhere)

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    what happen if a visitors from UK want to buy from your amazon website and your account is for US?
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  • Profile picture of the author stopper
    Thank you for for the hints. I think it is about time I tried out Amazon
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    Someone told me thank God they got their adsense account banned because it allowed them to rethink how other networks are so much better. Sometimes a loss can be a blessing in a disguise!
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    One thing that goes without mention; is finding good keywords for amazon monetization is ALOT easier than finding keywords for adwords.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    I don't think it's necessary for you to post you having an "expensive" watch. That has nothing to do with your evidence. As a matter of fact, I just got myself an Invicta watch for well over a couple of grand. I guess that automatically makes me a super successful internet marketer.

    Why do you need to boast about materialistic objects? Just answer the questions. Who cares about your watch, your TVs, your cars, blah blah blah.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Why you guys spend so much on watches or cars :O

    I bought my car for 200 euro, go beat that and it crushes your watches all the way. Don't believe me, come visit me and put it on the road and let's see what happens!
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      Why you guys spend so much on watches or cars :O

      I bought my car for 200 euro, go beat that and it crushes your watches all the way. Don't believe me, come visit me and put it on the road and let's see what happens!

      I bought a mansion for 1.5 million. It transforms into a Lamborghini on a good day. It has a missile comes out of its exhaust.

      Ok I'm over it. Going to starbucks to work. Peace lol.
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        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        I bought a mansion for 1.5 million. It transforms into a Lamborghini on a good day. It has a missile comes out of its exhaust.

        Ok I'm over it. Going to starbucks to work. Peace lol.
        Don't forget to pick up your girl friend at Walmart on your way home :p
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    Similarly to what Ashera claimed, I had batches of sites that saw a huge improvement after the final push to the top spots (not ~30x, but still big).

    I found some of his sites through the screencaps he was posting (it's fixed now). They follow pretty much exactly the methods and tips for on and off-page laid out by him in this thread. Not sure how they were ranking before the huge increase, but there are a few ranked #1 for key terms now. He definitely knows how to rank his sites.

    So I don't really know how much he's making, but it's sad to see everyone bashing him when they don't really know for sure if he's making stuff up. He has provided valuable, actionable information about what's working for him.

    Props for not spinning this into a WSO. Now double your money and make a stack...
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        You don't know why people are bashing him? I gave the link where he said he only made 700 a month and still people like you just keep on taking up for him. I also find it funny how every time I show proof that he lied someone comes out of nowhere and say no he didn't.

        I said a few posts up that this would happen, look still got people say congrats. Can someone please tell me how you go from 700 a month to 700 a day so I can relax and live the good life.


        Also what is in this thread that can't be found online anywhere, years before this thread ever came into existence. Rank niche sites, big whoop.


        Let me ask you something my man, how do you explain his post where he said he only made 700 a month. You know what let me really get outta here, I haven't had anything that pissed my off this much in long time. There are some slow gullible people on this forum.
        If you read this thread in full you would have seen I adressed all concerns and speculations about how I did indeed go from $700 a month to $700 a day. I even posted screen shots of analytics showing massive increases on multiple sites. I really don't care if you or anyone "believes me" or not. My goal of this thread was to help some people, and I can tell I did exactly that in a few cases.

        You do not see me trying to sell anything to any of you. I could understand trying to undermine me if this were the case, but it isn't and never will be. I have no plans to get into selling WSO's or any training course. I could show you 10 PM's where people asked me to do private training and every one I have politely refused.

        So like I said a million times, if this thread isn't of interest to you, or you don't believe a word I'm saying, I really don't care. It doesn't effect me, my life, or my earnings. I don't sit on this forum posting constantly, and saying things like "haven't had anything that pissed my off this much in long time" over a forum post.

        Enjoy.
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      • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        You don't know why people are bashing him? I gave the link where he said he only made 700 a month and still people like you just keep on taking up for him. I also find it funny how every time I show proof that he lied someone comes out of nowhere and say no he didn't.

        I said a few posts up that this would happen, look still got people say congrats. Can someone please tell me how you go from 700 a month to 700 a day so I can relax and live the good life.


        Also what is in this thread that can't be found online anywhere, years before this thread ever came into existence. Rank niche sites, big whoop.


        Let me ask you something my man, how do you explain his post where he said he only made 700 a month. You know what let me really get outta here, I haven't had anything that pissed my off this much in long time. There are some slow gullible people on this forum.
        Hmmm, I'm not sure people are gullible and from what I have read, no-one has said he didn't lie about his claims. The point is the rest of the thread is filled with very good advice and regardless of any possible exaggeration in his initial claims, the method works. It works because people have used the method, found it works and didn't even have to pay for the information. How many posts start off with 'I made $$$ doing xxx' which turn out to actually be quite useful. Do you honestly believe those initial claims? I never do, but I read people's reactions in the thread and decide whether it's good advice for me or not.

        If some of the senior warriors here had berated Ashera's method then fair enough, but they didn't. Your original comment on this thread was regarding your unhappiness at having read through the whole thread only to feel deceived by the end. Since then have you tried the method (or a mutation of it)? I thoroughly recommend you do, along with the additional contributions from Wolf and other experts.
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      • Profile picture of the author alksense
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        You don't know why people are bashing him? I gave the link where he said he only made 700 a month and still people like you just keep on taking up for him. I also find it funny how every time I show proof that he lied someone comes out of nowhere and say no he didn't.

        I said a few posts up that this would happen, look still got people say congrats. Can someone please tell me how you go from 700 a month to 700 a day so I can relax and live the good life.
        You didn't prove he lied... you proved he said hasn't been making $700/day forever. That's how businesses work, especially online when techniques can be implemented in a matter of seconds. You try new techniques, learn new methods, split test everything and constantly execute rather then sit on forums all day talking about how it's impossible to make real money online.

        I don't know Ashera at all but I have no clue why people are bashing him and calling him out when all he has done is shared information that can help people that are willing to learn.. while not trying to make a dime off it. If you're on the forums just to call people out how about going after someone who only makes money by pushing POS WSO's on newbies.

        My biggest piece of advice to anyone reading this thread, or any others on this forum is ONLY take advice from people who are giving it away for free. They're posting on here to give back to a place where they learned many of their techniques. Anyone trying to sell you something on here isn't trying to help you. They're trying to make a hundred bucks a day or so pushing BS products on people who think that's the only way to learn. Don't take that path, you'll blow through hundreds (or thousands) on free information that someone bundles up into a WSO and be in the same place you were on day one. Go after the real money. There's plenty out there for everyone and there is plenty of free advice on here that can make you rich. Read and execute what you learn. You will be successful.

        BTW this is coming from someone who has been self employed (while making a full time living online) for the past seven years (I'm 27). I've made my money in ecommerce but sold off most of my portfolio last year to a competitor. Since then I've been making money via Amazon affiliate sites and I learned 95% of the techniques I'm using on there forums FOR FREE. My first month with Amazon I put up ONE website and it made me over $1,200. Doesn't sound that great right? well ~$40/day didn't cut it for me BUT, I found a technique that worked for me. I selected 50 more top level niches and hired freelancers off freelancer.com to build out my new sites for me (all the same theme, just unique niches and products). 30 of them are done so far. 15 were completed the first month. What happened? I went from making $1,200 my first month with amazon to over $7,000 my second my month and did over $16,000 the third month. Within two months I went from $40/day via amazon to over $500/day... can't be true right? Of course it is! Find something that works for you and repeat, repeat, repeat!

        How can you believe that my story is true? How can you believe that Asheras story is true? BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SELL YOU ANYTHING!!!
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by alksense View Post

          How can you believe that my story is true? How can you believe that Asheras story is true? BECAUSE WE ARE NOT TRYING TO SELL YOU ANYTHING!!!
          With all due respect, that's a fairly short-sighted point of view, especially in light of the fact that many of my own clients were failing miserably before working with me. To somehow paint anyone who sells a WSO (or any other product) as some sort of scammer is unfair.

          What WAS proven is that Ashera made distinctively "at-odds" and contradictory statements in a rather short time span. When you look at Ashera's comments and other threads, you have to wonder how all of a sudden (in the span of literally 2-3 weeks), he was able to turn $700/month into $700/day. I think it's fair for people to be skeptical.

          Telling people to trust only those who aren't selling anything is rather silly. By your own definition, YOU shouldn't be trusted since you have been / are self-employed and have presumably sold your own goods/services to others.
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          • Profile picture of the author alksense
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            Telling people to trust only those who aren't selling anything is rather silly. By your own definition, YOU shouldn't be trusted since you have been / are self-employed and have presumably sold your own goods/services to others.
            I've never answered someones question who is asking for assistance with a plug to my own products. Forums are supposed to be a place to exchange information. I don't typically "comment" but when I do it's because I feel I can help someone, or because I have a question of my own.

            I know personally I come here for information, then go make my money elsewhere.

            I'm not saying everyone with a WSO shouldn't be in business. I'm saying I've made millions over the years and a large part of my success comes from information I have picked up on the forums. It is all just sitting here, and it doesn't take buying other members WSOs to be successful.
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by alksense View Post

              it doesn't take buying other members WSOs to be successful.
              I actually agree with the comment above. That said, you make your position pretty clear below....

              ONLY take advice from people who are giving it away for free. They're posting on here to give back to a place where they learned many of their techniques. Anyone trying to sell you something on here isn't trying to help you.

              Although I'm not sure you are calling me out specifically, I'm certain many of my own clients would disagree with your statement above as I've traded EASILY over 50 emails with some to support them after making a purchase from me.

              I never "plug" anything of my own products/services unless I am asked about them.
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              • Profile picture of the author alksense
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                And, although I'm not sure you are calling me out specifically, I never "plug" anything of my own unless I am asked about it. I'm certain many of my own clients would disagree with your statement above.
                I'm not calling you out. I was acknowledging your reply to my post saying I can not be trusted because I am self employed and have sold products and services online. Again, I come here for information, then go make my money elsewhere.

                The reason I posted on this thread at all is because I think it's ridiculous to call someone out for saying they drastically increased their earnings (which is all he is being accused of). Again, this is the internet, things move fast and it takes seconds to implement changes that can change EVERYTHING, especially when you have traffic in place. Now, if Ashera's post had a link in his sig saying "Find out how I did it - Limited Time Offer - blah blah blah buy this now and you'll be rich" and he wanted everyone to pay him for the same info in a WSO (which he very well could have), I would also be skeptical. Instead he posted a very useful thread full of free information that other members can implement and test for themselves. If everyone's problem is with the simple fact that his earning increased drastically in a month I don't know what to tell you.... you're right, no one makes money online and it takes years and years and years and wsos and books and courses to make it, he must be lying because everyone knows that an online business has to grow at 10%/month to be legit, right? no one figures out how to increase their conversions rates, right? he must be lying! It's a joke...

                Just remember everyone reading this, you can do it on your own and it's not unrealistic to from $700/month to $700/day within a month when you own an online business. Find out what people who are successful are doing in whatever IM path you choose and duplicate it.

                Congrats on your success Ashera, enjoy your Audi. I got mine 4 years ago and haven't looked back!
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              • Profile picture of the author TechSense
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                I never "plug" anything of my own products/services unless I am asked about them.
                Why don't you start your own thread to "help" people? You hijacked this tread and pretend to be nice.

                I doubt that you're actually doing self-promotion, just like you're skeptical about Ashera's honesty.

                If you had commented here without the signature, then I wouldn't have any skepticism on you.

                Sorry if I offended you, but that's my impression. I seldom speak on WF, but this time I have to express myself because such a good thread is polluted.
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by TechSense View Post

                  Why don't you start your own thread to "help" people? You hijacked this tread and pretend to be nice.

                  I doubt that you're actually doing self-promotion, just like you're skeptical about Ashera's honesty.

                  If you had commented here without the signature, then I wouldn't have any skepticism on you.

                  Sorry if I offended you, but that's my impression. I seldom speak on WF, but this time I have to express myself because such a good thread is polluted.
                  You are certainly entitled to your opinion as am I to show a signature. I'm not sure what you mean by "pretending" and "polluting" but I can assure you that my very large following feels that I provide very helpful information, regardless of what thread I'm posting in.

                  If you feel that my posts are unhelpful, please, by all means, ignore them.
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    I'm not worried at all. I don't expect my sites to be too negatively affected (if at all).
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  • Profile picture of the author bizzie73
    nice job! I personally don't get why people like AdSense so much. there are so many better ways to make money with web traffic especially for low impression websites.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Although I'm very careful about calling people liars, I am very skeptical as it is highly unusual. I thought it to be less than classy to flaunt possessions and disparage someone else's income level / possessions.

    I did tell Ashera to not mind the criticism if it was, in fact, working for him since I have no way of knowing for sure, despite the conflicting information presented in the thread and others.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Like I said multiple times, the reason I was able to go from $700 a month to $700 a day is I know how to bring in traffic.

    Two new sites I created in the last 6 months, first one a forum second one a membership & blog site:





    Don't know how many times I have to beat a dead horse.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    But it's not just about the earnings. It's the verbiage of his previous posts coupled with the timeline of them. I think that's where the skepticism is coming from, at least for me it does.

    On April 4th:

    Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

    AWESOME!!! I'm at about $700 a month via Amazon and Adsense and this inspires me.
    On April 6th:

    Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

    I own about 40 domains of my own, with about 30 of them ranking 3rd or higher for their keyword. These sites are 80 percent amazon affiliate and 20 percent Adsense. They don't rake in tons of cash but each site makes between $3-$40 a day. It's nice supplemental income with minimal effort.
    So, on April 4th, he was making $700/month with his Amazon sites. However, on April 6th, he says he owns 30-40 sites, EACH making $3-$40/day (at least $3600/month). The numbers and the timelines don't jive.

    So, then, on April 24th, comes this thread of $700/day.

    This is the stuff I'm talking about. I think people have a right to be skeptical.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      But it's not just about the earnings. It's the verbiage of his previous posts coupled with the timeline of them. I think that's where the skepticism is coming from, at least for me it does.

      On April 4th:



      On April 6th:



      So, on April 4th, he was making $700/month with his Amazon sites. However, on April 6th, he says he owns 30-40 sites, EACH making $3-$40/day (at least $3600/month). The numbers and the timelines don't jive.

      So, then, on April 24th, comes this thread of $700/day.

      This is the stuff I'm talking about. I think people have a right to be skeptical.
      You should publish and sell a WSO on me. Spent enough time studying and analyzing the subject.
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        You should publish and sell a WSO on me. Spent enough time studying and analyzing the subject.
        Ashera....I personally have no problem with you. I'm not doing any studying. I'm just observing what's posted in the thread. Like I said before, if you are that successful, more power to you - don't worry about skeptics because it doesn't affect you at the end of the day.
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post


      This is the stuff I'm talking about. I think people have a right to be skeptical.
      I agree with this, but I just don't get why anyone cares if he lied. Let's say he did lie, what then? We disregard all the advice he gave? He wasn't selling anything and we all know the advice was sound because we're all doing the same thing, albeit slightly differently. He just simplified the process step by step rather eloquently and in lots of detail don't you think?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

        I agree with this, but I just don't get why anyone cares if he lied. Let's say he did lie, what then? We disregard all the advice he gave? He wasn't selling anything and we all know the advice was sound because we're all doing the same thing, albeit slightly differently. He just simplified the process step by step rather eloquently and in lots of detail don't you think?
        Personally, I don't care if he lied. It doesn't affect me either way. Others obviously have more of an issue with it than I do. I'm just explaining why people would be skeptical since there is a subset of individuals who are all up in arms like "how dare we question Ashera".
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        • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          I'm just explaining why people would be skeptical since there is a subset of individuals who are all up in arms like "how dare we question Ashera".
          I totally understand why people are/were skeptical, but I think it's ludicrous that otherwise intelligent people on here cannot see past this and utilize the information he (and others) gave. The point about his earnings came up so long ago now, but it keeps being dragged up all the time, sabotaging the usefulness of the thread.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

            I totally understand why people are/were skeptical, but I think it's ludicrous that otherwise intelligent people on here cannot see past this and utilize the information he (and others) gave. The point about his earnings came up so long ago now, but it keeps being dragged up all the time, sabotaging the usefulness of the thread.
            I agree. It keeps getting dragged up by both opponents and proponents. That's just the nature of a public forum and controversy. People have opinions and they want to state them.

            When someone is potentially caught lying, people naturally want to know why. People don't lie for no reason - there's always an agenda (otherwise there would be no reason to lie in the first place). If folks believe Ashera lied in this thread, people want to know why.

            There were facts stated that clearly conflicted with one another. People see that and want to know why. He made $700/month on April 4 and then the story was $3600-$5000/mo 2 days later (April 6). The claims grew from there.

            At the end of the day, the point folks are making about the earnings piece is that if he lied about that (and I never said he did), what else did he lie about in the thread? In my opinion, that's a totally acceptable position to hold.

            That's just the nature of a public forum.
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              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              I agree. It keeps getting dragged up by both opponents and proponents. That's just the nature of a public forum and controversy. People have opinions and they want to state them.

              When someone is potentially caught lying, people naturally want to know why. People don't lie for no reason - there's always an agenda (otherwise there would be no reason to lie in the first place). If folks believe Ashera lied in this thread, people want to know why.

              There were facts stated that clearly conflicted with one another. People see that and want to know why. He made $700/month on April 4 and then the story was $3600-$5000/mo 2 days later (April 6). The claims grew from there.

              At the end of the day, the point folks are making about the earnings piece is that if he lied about that (and I never said he did), what else did he lie about in the thread? In my opinion, that's a totally acceptable position to hold.

              That's just the nature of a public forum.
              The only thing that I probably didn't clarify in my initial statement that may seem like a lie, is which was something like "I have 30-40 sites each making $3-$40 a day"... when I should have probably said "most are making" at that time there was probably 10+ that weren't making anything more than cents or nothing, and there were days where that $40 site at the time made pennies.

              Like alksense said earlier, in the internet you can go from a site earning nothing to a lot in minutes, hours, or days , if the site suddenly starts to get a bunch of traffic. In my case I had multiple sites that were earning very little, rank at the same time and start to earn consistently big numbers.

              I had and have no agenda here, other than to hopefully help a few people, at no cost to them.

              My multiple screen shots and analytics that I've posted various times should easily supplement any claims (with screenshots) of earnings which weren't really even the point of this thread, it was the information I hopefully provided.

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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Funny thread. A couple of my highlights

                Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

                I don't think it's necessary for you to post you having an "expensive" watch. That has nothing to do with your evidence.
                I loved the shot of the watch actually (I guess everyone is familiar with the look of his hands cause I aint seen no face to go with it) but what interested me more was the microphone (barely even noticed it not enough real bling lol). See its a special microphone that those of us evil people who do video trainings and podcasts to sell use. No reason to have it if you are not making recordings.tells me our guy asher despite saying otherwise is VERY much into selling training/iM stuff. He aint just into AMazon. Either that or he records sweet nothings for his GF to hear when she is away

                Why do you need to boast about materialistic objects? Just answer the questions. Who cares about your watch, your TVs, your cars, blah blah blah.
                Cause if I goin be a guru I gots to look like a guru

                Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

                I even posted screen shots of analytics showing massive increases on multiple sites.
                HAHAHAHA screen shots as proof. You funny though.

                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                With all due respect, that's a fairly short-sighted point of view,
                No its not. its just plain stupid. Glasses are fine just the brain has not been engaged. The owner of this forum has had something to sell, most of the mods have at some point, almost all the best posters in the history of this forum have had a sig or sold something. Its totally brainless to claim on a MARKETING FORUM that those who are marketing are not to be trusted . So what if you market somewhere else you are to be trusted but if you do so here not? Thats crazy thinking. Plus its totally foolishess because most people position themselves as a guru THEN start selling so its impossible in the course of a thread to claim they are doing it for no other reason

                Telling people to trust only those who aren't selling anything is rather silly. By your own definition, YOU shouldn't be trusted since you have been / are self-employed and have presumably sold your own goods/services to others.
                Actually the fact that they are even on a marketing forum would say that they are working hard to learn to be untrustworthy.

                Originally Posted by Ashera View Post


                I had and have no agenda here, other than to hopefully help a few people, at no cost to them.
                Dude for a guy that has no interest you sure have posted a whole lot of screenshots and done a whole lot of bragging. Unfortunately there are some people who will talk crap just to feel good or have a laugh. The foolishness that only those who are selling somethng can have an agenda is just that - foolish.

                BUt of course you guys should all know better than me . I mean every time people make an entry on Facebook and twitter its got to be true cause they aint selling anything right?

                My multiple screen shots and analytics that I've posted various times should easily supplement any claims (with screenshots) of earnings
                You can rent photoshop on a month basis for around 40 a month. Seriously you are only going to convince the newbs with screenshots. tutorials abound all over the internet on how to make em.

                $700 a month to $700 a day in a short spell sounds good especially as a brag but ts suspect - anyone who believes your easily faked screenshtos means anything is a newb that just wants to desperately believe it because it makes them hope they will do the same

                and seriously thats the only reason why this thread is this long. Been here three years and These threads always stir people up who are not making a dime. thing is no one in the thread ever comes back saying they repeated the level of success alleged.

                BUt like I said nice microphone started out with a Blue myself. You use camtasia Studio or Captivate? In captivate you can just scroll on the screenshots in the middle of a presentation for more street creds. Then you can come back to a watch shot and boom the sales will blow up. BUt at least get some with some diamond chips on it. Cubic zirconia looks like the real thing and is cheaper if you are strapped. IF you going to pimp the lifestyle to make the lifestyle ya gots to go big or go home.
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  • Profile picture of the author Multi-millions
    alksense, i would love to pick your brains about your success. unfortunately, i dont have enough post to pm you.
    btw, this thread is awesome!
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  • Profile picture of the author Green Moon
    I've always done better with AdSense but I think it really depends on too many things to generalize which is better.

    I was getting a couple of hundred dollars a month from Amazon but they dropped all their associates in my state to avoid becoming subject to sales taxes. I am looking forward to the sales tax issue being settled on a national basis so that I can get back into the program. All alternatives that I have tried to replace Amazon have failed miserably. They get few clicks and they don't convert when they do get clicks.
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    Wow! I am impressed to see your results. I've tried amazon and adsense but no success to me so far, so I wonder what I am doing wrong here...

    I guess I'll have to do more testing and testing to see which niches convert well and which don't
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Fair enough my man.

    Contrary to what some folks on here believe, I'm really not an ass. I've been very careful to not ever call you out as a liar. I, personally, simply had questions about inconsistencies in some of your statements.

    Although you owe me (and everyone else) nothing, I'm okay with that explanation at face value.
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        No wolf, your not an ass, your the one that save this pathetic thread by providing good info, after ladyboss point out the contradictory statements Ashera made, and soon as those statements were pointed out for some reason he vanished from the thread, hhmm I wonder why lol.

        Screen shots mean nothing, I can go to photo shop right now and say I make 70,000 a day if I wanted to. Here a few comments from senior members on screen shots and fake earnings.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ml#post5995471

        http://www.warriorforum.com/off-topi...ml#post5996502

        As for all the people that say this thread is full of useful info, how can you believe someone who income statements may or may not be true, if he did lie about his earnings, who's to say he didn't lie about having 40 sites, and if he lied about that maybe he lied about everything else also.

        Why people are standing up to defend somebody like this I will never understand, why ggpaul thread was closed yet this piece of crap remain , I will never understand.

        Another thing, why are people saying , "hey I made money with Ashera's method" when all he said was I have 40 niche sites that I ranked to the top of Google which lead to earning 7,000 a month.

        Which part of his method hasn't been discussed on forums for yrs prior to this thread. Ranking amazon niche sites is a old method, and a very common one, so when you say "I made money from Ashera's method" what you really mean is I ranked a amazon niche site lol.

        Wolf was nice enough to be polite to you guys, I'm not, Ashera your a liar, liar, liar pants on fire my friend.


        Oh and to the guy that kept saying you can change things in seconds and increase your earnings very quickly, I just have 2 questions for you, what have you been smokin?, and where can I get some?

        What change can you make in seconds that will change your earnings as fast as you say. Sure you can change plenty of things on your site in seconds, but it takes days,weeks,months for it to change in the serps.

        This thread is turning me into a Mike Anthony/Paulgl hybrid, long posts with attitude, this whole thread is like watching a episode from the twilight zone, where up is down, you attack wolf who is a senior member with a good following vs this guy who came out of nowhere and said I make 700 a day.

        Wolf I'm wondering where's that following you talk about, where's all those people that you helped, wouldn't it be nice if those same people grew a back bone and said something in you defense, I mean damn you did help them to earn money online and you only charge 14 dollars for your tutorial which isn't much.

        This thread and all the ones on the front page of the seo section is exactly why a lot of senior members are leaving, it's filled with garbage. Oh and btw, I served as a police officer for a while, I should know a liar when I see one.

        Edit: These rants are getting longer, I been hangin around Mike to long.
        A site can not be ranked in a place to get traffic and then rank and get traffic within seconds. You don't need to be a logician to understand these simple things, but there is a reason you were fired from the force.

        The only thing that comes off from your personality is pure and utter jealousy. If this thread isn't of interest to you, or you learned nothing new, stay out of it.
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            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            Please jealous of what, I've already had threads with thousands of views, and people asking how to make money. Your income can't even be taken seriously, so what am I jealous of, you can't even be taken seriously, taking fake screen shots,and photos of watches and car keys, I also like how you tried to get the apple computer in that shot lmao.

            I quite every job I ever had, no one has ever fired me, so get your facts straight, I been in situations that would make most of the people on this forum pee their pants, and I'm still here.


            I once was told to shoot a pregnant women if it meant saving my own life, when ever I showed concern for a criminal, other officers would say f them. Situations like that is why I left. I wasn't helping people, which is why I became a officer in the first place, oh and the fact that some of those guys actually talk as if they are on a tv show pissed me off, like did you really just call him a scum bag, I just could't take it.
            I didn't try to get the apple computer in the shot, I tried to get a shot of me on WF... you are like a 12 year old girl with your bickering. End it.
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      Thanks again, Ashera, for the help you gave in this thread and in PMs.

      On a separate note, I'm appalled by the way this thread has turned out when this forum is supposed to be about supporting and helping each other.

      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Fair enough my man.

      Contrary to what some folks on here believe, I'm really not an ass. I've been very careful to not ever call you out as a liar. I, personally, simply had questions about inconsistencies in some of your statements.

      Although you owe me (and everyone else) nothing, I'm okay with that explanation at face value.
      This thread should have ended here and I'm going to pretend it did.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post


        On a separate note, I'm appalled by the way this thread has turned out when this forum is supposed to be about supporting and helping each other.

        The thanks over there on the left tells me that some of us have done less helping than others and don't have the credibility to call people on that basis. Helping alot of the time is pointing out things that are not quite right. If thats an issue with you then theres a section where you will find only the kind of support you like. They call it the WSO section. Here we questions things not swallow everything whole.

        Trust me theres more than enough appalling to be had by everyone
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    @Mike , the snowball is only for Skype calls with a team I have in India (don't do any presentations whatsoever, though been thinking about using it to whisper sweet nothings to them). Great commentary, either way.

    I love spending hours photoshopping Piwik analytics, Google analytics, Amazon earnings, and bank statements for the pleasure of people saying "OMG congratulations" on WF. :-/
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
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      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      @Mike , the snowball is only for Skype calls with a team I have in India (don't do any presentations whatsoever
      Asher I call it like I see it. Thats a pile of Hueey. You don't need a microphone of that caliber to talk with teams in India. It doesn't decode their accents. I realize I took you off balance by recognizing the microphone but to talk to team in India? I was right man - You funny.
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        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

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        Asher I call it like I see it. Thats a pile of Hueey. You don't need a microphone of that caliber to talk with teams in India. It doesn't decode their accents. I realize I took you off balance by recognizing the microphone but to talk to team in India? I was right man - You funny.

        A microphone of that caliber? It's like a $70 microphone....


        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        The thanks over there on theleft tells me that some of us have done more helping than others and don't have the credibility to call people on that basis. Helping alot of the time is pointing out things that are not quite right. If thats an issue with you then theres a section where you will find only the kind of support you like. They call it the WSO section. Here we questions things not swallow everything whole.
        Let's see, 5494 posts/1338 thanks = 4.1 posts per thanks

        383 posts/188 thanks = 2 posts per thank.

        So who is actually providing more value and who is busy posting a bunch of crap?

        Strong argument you had there.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

          A microphone of that caliber? It's like a $70 microphone....
          Weak,, NO matter how you try and spin out of it that is a recording microphone and we both know it. You just didn't think anyone would recognize it

          Let's see, 5494 posts/1338 thanks = 4.1 posts per thanks

          383 posts/188 thanks = 2 posts per thank.

          So who is actually providing more value and who is busy posting a bunch of crap?
          I got you so you think your maths makes 188 thanks greater than 1,338

          DId you use the same maths to get from a claim of $700 a month to $700 a day? so should we just go ahead and divide your claim by the same ratio of 7 to get to real dollars?

          Strong argument you had there.
          To anyone who understands the implications of addition yes but hey I concede defeat before those who don't. But spare us the garbage - putting up pictures of your watch (allegedly ) and talking crap about your earnings and what you drive doesn't float around here as value (well except to newbs).

          Thats just the way it is.
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          • Profile picture of the author alksense
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            But spare us the garbage - putting up pictures of your watch (allegedly ) and talking crap about your earnings and what you drive doesn't float around here as value (well except to newbs).

            Thats just the way it is.
            He didn't put up pictures of anything he's buying until he was called out over and over again because some members here think it's ridiculous to see drastic changes in earnings in a short period of time. He's hasn't once tried to offer any type of services or software, or implicated that he is planning on offering services in the future.. in fact, he said the exact opposite.

            What's your reason for saying all his claims are fabricated other just saying it's too good to be true? I really don't get it... He didn't start a thread talking about how is spending money and posting photos of what he is buying. He started a thread with useful information about how you can set up an Amazon affiliate review site (yes, it is not a "new" method, but it is still useful information that people can test on their own) and he shared his success.

            I don't see what everyones problem is... if you go back and read this thread it was started with nothing but good intentions then it was ruined when people started jumping in and saying they know he is lying because they don't believe it is possible to see a huge jump in earnings in a short amount of time.

            If I was the OP of this thread I would probably post screen shots too because it comes down to pride. You try to share your success and offer FREE advice then have people call you a liar with no basis... and at this point I'd probably be just about done with trying to offer any more advice to anyone when it's so easy for trolls to fill a thread with a bunch of garbage posts.
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              Originally Posted by alksense View Post

              then it was ruined when people started jumping in and saying they know he is lying because they don't believe it is possible to see a huge jump in earnings in a short amount of time.
              Actually, I believe things started going downhill when a member (not me) simply asked about the inconsistencies. Nobody at that point "knew" anything.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    LOL at you lot. If you were making $700/day (consistently), you wouldn't be arguing here. Because it's pointless.
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      [QUOTE=nest28;6985721As a matter a fact the people that take up for you all have low posts counts and thanks, I haven't seen not 1 senior member say , hey wait guys, you could make such a jump in earnings in 3 weeks, but the number of senior members that say you can't is growing.[/QUOTE]

      I'm sorry but that is such a stupid comment.... :confused:

      First of all, who cares how many posts you have? Anyone can sit on the forums all day calling people out or saying "nice post man, thanks!".. post count should be irrelevant.

      Secondly, why do you think it takes so long to start making money online? I said when you own an online business it can take seconds to make changes and you didn't seem to understand my point... there are many examples but here are a couple..

      scenario 1 - you have high traffic to you site but conversions are lacking. you redesign your page, change your offer, add an exit pop up, run a promotion, enable a mobile design, etc, etc, etc and even the slightest change can make a HUGE difference in terms of conversions and earnings. If you're traffic is high enough you will see huge changes right away

      scenario 2 - you start $0. Join a CPA network, find a great offer, build a great landing page, set up a targeted PPC campaign and fund it. Guess what happens then? You click "Start" and your traffic blows up and you can go from making $0 to the sky is limit within minutes of starting a PPC campaign
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        Originally Posted by alksense View Post


        scenario 2 - you start $0. Join a CPA network, find a great offer, build a great landing page, set up a targeted PPC campaign and fund it. Guess what happens then? You click "Start" and your traffic blows up and you can go from making $0 to the sky is limit within minutes of starting a PPC campaign
        Giddy up then. Why bother being here. Go forth and conquer PPC :rolleyes:

        and make $21,000 a month from here on in. YOu can beat the OP and start a thread in three weeks

        "I went from zero dollars a month to $21,000 in two weeks"

        Beats trolling on an internet MARKETING Forum by claiming that any marketer here that is marketing is untrustworthy. Weren't you just talking about stupid comments - I think that one far outstrips anything else.

        Nothing more to say I just told someone to quit the thread. It s obviously over run by newbs who feel deeply offended that the dream of going from $700 to $21,000 in a couple weeks Might be....I dunno......not realistic.

        Its like you are crushing their deepest dreams telling them Santa Clause is not real and its disturbing to them.

        Don't worry.... Rudolph with his nose so bright will lead the way tonight. Santa will be there soon. He might even have a WSO with some screenshots and some Indian guys singing "have yourselves a merry little christmas" in the background as he uses his audio recording microphone to show you how to make $7.000 a day selling hanukkah ornaments on Amazon and a Special bonus PDf on making 77,000.00 a day selling communion wafers at lent. Its a great time to be a IMer. Have a happy Holiday everyone.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Giddy up then. Why bother being here. Go forth and conquer PPC :rolleyes:

          and make $21,000 a month from here on in. YOu can beat the OP and start a thread in three weeks

          "I went from zero dollars a month to $21,000 in two weeks"

          Beats trolling on an internet MARKETING Forum by claiming that any marketer here that is marketing is untrustworthy. Weren't you just talking about stupid comments - I think that one far outstrips anything else.

          Nothing more to say I just told someone to quit the thread. It s obviously over run by newbs who feel deeply offended that the dream of going from $700 to $21,000 Might be....I dunno......not realistic.

          Its like you are crushing their deepest dreams telling them Santa Clause is not real and its disturbing to them.

          Don't worry.... Rudolph with his nose so bright will lead the way tonight. Santa will be there soon. He might even have a WSO with some screenshots and some Indian guys singing "have yourselves a merry little christmas" in the background as he uses his audio recording microphone to show you how to make $7.000 a day selling hanukkah ornaments on Amazon. Special bonus? A PDf on making 77,000.00 a day selling communion wafers at lent.
          Don't you think if I wanted to put out a WSO or do any thing I would have by now? Get over yourself buddy.
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    PPC campaigns can make a huge difference but it ain't an easy sport, most people are happy if they manage to break-even on it and start to make money from the repeat business.

    So if it would be that this is caused by PPC, then making $700/day would still mean nothing. As with all income claims, people always post only what comes in and not what go's out. I make 5 figures "revenue" a month myself, hmm let's see how much is left after expenses.
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      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      If you add up all the posts,and thanks from the members who are skeptical about your income statements, it would add up to waaaaaay more than the members who oppose us.

      As a matter a fact the people that take up for you all have low posts counts and thanks, I haven't seen not 1 senior member say , hey wait guys, you could make such a jump in earnings in 3 weeks, but the number of senior members that say you can't is growing.
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      PPC campaigns can make a huge difference but it ain't an easy sport, most people are happy if they manage to break-even on it and start to make money from the repeat business.

      So if it would be that this is caused by PPC, then making $700/day would still mean nothing. As with all income claims, people always post only what comes in and not what go's out. I make 5 figures "revenue" a month myself, hmm let's see how much is left after expenses.
      I didn't say this was caused by PPC. I'm just saying it is one way your entire business can change in an instant. Any yes, it is very risky to get started with big spends if you don't know what you're doing.

      Just for fun, here is scenario 3 - your authority site is ranking under the fold on page 1 for a major search term, you implement new SEO techniques... Google crawls and its algorithm does what it does and the you wake up the next day ranked #1.

      I'm just saying there are sooo many ways traffic/sales/conversions can change in an instant online... I don't know why people can not understand that. It shouldn't take someone with 5000 posts to confirm, it's common sense.
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    Back then, I only focused on AdSense and underestimated Amazon. You proved to me that you can make more money with Amazon than AdSense
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      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      ummm.....nah can't be bothered
      Strong typos on your landing page in your sig. Looks like you truly take pride in your work. Found at least 10 spelling/grammar errors on first glance, and littered with spacing errors.

      I'm especially looking forward to the "Penguin combatible link building"... is that a new term for fighting a war?

      But at least you provide guarantees: "Finally some real guarantees in SEO that can wok" ... I personally love Asian food, cooked in a wok, hope there are no mushrooms though (I'm allergic).
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Strong typos on your landing page in your sig. Looks like you truly take pride in your work. Found at least 10 spelling/grammar errors on first glance, and littered with spacing errors.

        I'm especially looking forward to the "Penguin combatible link building"... is that a new term for fighting a war?

        But at least you provide guarantees: "Finally some real guarantees in SEO that can wok" ... I personally love Asian food, cooked in a wok, hope there are no mushrooms though (I'm allergic).
        Perhaps you would like to analyse my sales thread as well. Maybe when I fix it I go from $700 to $7000/day.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Perhaps you would like to analyse my sales thread as well. Maybe when I fix it I go from $700 to $7000/day.
          Fix your odd capitalization and spell algorithm correctly, and just maybe you will.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Perhaps you would like to analyse my sales thread as well. Maybe when I fix it I go from $700 to $7000/day.
          NIk you opportunist. Let him talk about my site some more and highlight my sig..... He can get to promoting you later He aint (oh oh thats grammatically incorrect)got no clue no one hires us to do typing work...lol.

          Anyway I will be back. Can't make free editorial services go for nothing and Since I will have more visitors from this thread its only hospitable.
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            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            NIk you opportunist. Let him talk about my site some more and highlight my sig..... He can get to promoting you later He aint got no clue no one hires us to do typing work...lol.
            You don't have time for it, you're to busy with wokking :p

            I like the combatible link building though, great word-play!
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            • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              You don't have time for it, you're to busy with wokking :p
              You of all people NIk? You insulting my interest in Asian culinary arts? Shame... I am going to tell all your Thailand friends about this

              I like the combatible link building though, great word-play!
              Thanks we plan on extending it into a series really

              Flip kick SEo - which will be on analyzing your competitions backlinks and getting them right back with them

              Then theres

              Linkcando - the art of three way link building (try and steal that name and you are dead)

              and then theres

              Flying eel/crouching tiger optimization which is making sure your link building remains under the radar in stealth postion but with high power links still causing you to rank.

              Finally we have SEO Mace under development but I don't approve of it basically scuzzy negative SEO with a twist. You don't really take them out - you leave them stunned in the serps for a few days while you make bank
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                This thread is becoming ridiculous and quite childish.
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                  Originally Posted by jimmyfingers View Post

                  This thread is becoming ridiculous and quite childish.
                  Thats what I thought when people started taking pictures of the watches they supposedly have on but everyone has their own definitions.
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                Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                You of all people NIk? You insulting my interest in Asian culinary arts? Shame... I am going to tell all your Thailand friends about this



                Thanks we plan on extending it into a series really

                Flip kick SEo - which will be on analyzing your competitions backlinks and getting them right back with them

                Then theres

                Linkcando - the art of three way link building (try and steal that name and you are dead)

                and then theres

                Flying eel/crouching tiger optimization which is making sure your link building remains under the radar in stealth postion but with high power links still causing you to rank.

                Finally we have SEO Mace under development but I don't approve of it basically scuzzy negative SEO with a twist.
                Don't tell me you're gonna be the new WSO guru.

                Btw I don't like Linkcando, this thread did inspire me to try a new headline though, yeah it's old but it comes from some top 100 list:

                EVERYWHERE PEOPLE ARE RAVING ABOUT THIS AMAZING NEW SERVICE!

                previously it was everywhere women are raving about this amazing new shampoo, oh well let's see how it works
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Strong typos on your landing page in your sig. Looks like you truly take pride in your work. Found at least 10 spelling/grammar errors on first glance, and littered with spacing errors.
        Dude Thanks man. You da man. Every time someone brings up a sig it always gets more eyeballs. I think everyone should go look at the typos on my page and while they are reading about ho w for the first time ever they can actually rent to own their own network they can find more errors. SHoot I might even give discounts for those that do . Traffic from this thread will now go up. Where do I send your affiliate cut?

        I'm especially looking forward to the "Penguin combatible link building"... is that a new term for fighting a war?
        As a matter of fact I do have a penguin combat service coming up . Want a discount? but again thanks for pointing out my sig . I haven't even officially launched that site so most people don't even know of the offers plus the free Editorial service was sweet of you.

        But at least you provide guarantees: "Finally some real guarantees in SEO that can wok" ... I personally love Asian food, cooked in a wok, hope there are no mushrooms though (I'm allergic).
        Thats the thing though . I do SEO for people all over the world not article or sales page writing thanks again for allowing me the opportunity of highlighting that and for the fact that I actually give ranking guarantees.

        IF you keep this up you could be the affiliate of the month and I don't even have to pay you. Like I said You da man.

        P.S. you really think anyone who knows me on this forum is going to quibble over my typing abilities on a site that hasn't even launched and has no links to it except warrior forums and a couple people who saw it here?

        Nah ...I know man you were just spreading the love. HIgh five bro.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          Dude Thanks man. You da man....
          Great defense of your illiteracy by claiming it's not launched... yet it's linked in your signature.

          I'll put your signature in my signature for all I care (except I don't want to look like I paid $5 to someone to write it). I have nothing to sell here.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      You WF bullies you. Got me shaking in my e-boots. Let me know how I can get admittance into your clique, do I just have to make a couple thousand posts of utter crap? I'm off to enjoy my weekend. Enjoy buying sales pages from Fiverr.
      Yep minimum of 1000 posts, doesn't matter what you posts, I mean look at me, then you can put Senior Warrior under your name and then you're invincible.

      I go right away to Fiverr to see what they got, THANKS, you're very helpful.

      Hey look at that

      http://fiverr.com/davey1000/send-you...page-generator

      A sales page generator, then I have as many sales pages as I want for just 5 bucks, WOWSERS!

      Or look at this one Mike: http://fiverr.com/brettallen/critique-your-sales-page

      He just saved us 5 bucks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Multi-millions
    Not only is this forum informative, it can get really comical else well. Keep it going guys! lol
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by 6feet5 View Post

      THis still needs more detail or a PDF

      Hey - if it is as good as you say - a $5 link to the info would be fine
      What more detail do you need?
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    Has anyone had any success building an amazon niche site then paying CPC to get traffic and converting that into sales? Just curious. I would love to do it but need to talk to someone who knows amazon better.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      Has anyone had any success building an amazon niche site then paying CPC to get traffic and converting that into sales? Just curious. I would love to do it but need to talk to someone who knows amazon better.
      Jan Roos and Wolfmmi have had success doing that.

      I've had sales from paid traffic, only about $200 worth though. From my testing, sending traffic to the homepage of my site didn't convert, but sending traffic to specific review pages did. You should probably try both though as results would vary.
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      • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Jan Roos and Wolfmmi have had success doing that.

        I've had sales from paid traffic, only about $200 worth though. From my testing, sending traffic to the homepage of my site didn't convert, but sending traffic to specific review pages did. You should probably try both though as results would vary.
        How are you buying traffic exactly?

        And I wonder if selecting a niche to do CPC in is the same concept as it is for adsense?
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

          How are you buying traffic exactly?
          I don't buy it anymore because I was only breaking even. I bought the traffic from MS Adcenter.

          Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

          And I wonder if selecting a niche to do CPC in is the same concept as it is for adsense?
          If you choose Adwords to buy the traffic, then your ads will be shown by Adsense publishers, if that's what you mean.
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  • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
    How did you get this product in a post plugin to work?

    I have both keys, set it up in options etc. put in ASIN number and make sure it product is live and all i see on screen is a image placeholder and a ( ) and a buy from amazon button which links back to the post on my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author GuyDon
    Wolfmmi, can you tell me how to write perfect article comparing 2-3 products for promoting amz products..?
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by GuyDon View Post

      Wolfmmi, can you tell me how to write perfect article comparing 2-3 products for promoting amz products..?
      Just make a comparison chart.
      Don't add the prices though. I think that's against T.O.S but I'm not sure.
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      • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
        Unless you are using Amazon's widgets that show the current price, yes mate, it's against TOS.

        And to the OP, congrats on your achievement. Such days are why we are so concentrated on Amazon

        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        Just make a comparison chart.
        Don't add the prices though. I think that's against T.O.S but I'm not sure.
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        • Profile picture of the author tryingtolearn
          Originally Posted by Berkinb View Post

          Unless you are using Amazon's widgets that show the current price, yes mate, it's against TOS.

          And to the OP, congrats on your achievement. Such days are why we are so concentrated on Amazon
          I think its possible via Amazon Product advertising api.

          (o) You will include a date/time stamp adjacent to your display of pricing or availability information on your application if you obtain Product Advertising Content from a Data Feed, or if you call the Product Advertising API or refresh the Product Advertising Content displayed on your application less frequently than hourly. However, during the same day on which you requested and refreshed the pricing and availability information displayed on your application, you may omit the date portion of the stamp. Examples of acceptable messaging include:
          Amazon.com Price: $32.77 (as of 01/07/2008 14:11 PST - Details)
          Amazon.com Price: $32.77 (as of 14:11 PST - More info)
          Additionally, you must either include the following disclaimer adjacent to the pricing or availability information or provide it via a hyperlink, popup box, scripted popup, or other similar method: "Product prices and availability are accurate as of the date/time indicated and are subject to change. Any price and availability information displayed on [amazon.com or endless.com, as applicable] at the time of purchase will apply to the purchase of this product." In the above examples, "Details" and "More info" would provide a method for the end user to read the disclaimer.
          Source: Amazon.com Product Advertising API License Agreement
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by GuyDon View Post

      Wolfmmi, can you tell me how to write perfect article comparing 2-3 products for promoting amz products..?
      There are several ways. In addition to a comparison chart, what you can do is simply include it in your writing.

      For example:

      The Canon x5400 digital camera is great for indoor pics because of the awesome flash, which is far superior to that of the Minolta z2100. That said, it's a bit of an unfair comparison since the Minolta is marketed as a camera primarily for outdoors. If you are looking for a digital camera that handles indoor/outdoor well, the Panasonic y4900 is really what you need.

      You could then include a featured comparison table on top of it. Some of my older review templates actually include really sharp comparison tables for this reason specifically.
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  • Profile picture of the author Periwinkle
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    I've never touched Amazon but with this assessment it might be worth a look !Thanks!!
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  • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
    How much do wordpress tags make a difference? I leave my wordpress tags blank, am I missing out on traffic?
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    You are awesome thanks for sharing your success story with us
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  • Profile picture of the author getdong
    Your making me HATE Pat Quinn our idiot Illinois Governor even more. He pushed amazon pushed back and now people in the state of Illinois can't be part of the Amazon affiliate program because this clown says it means they have a presence in the state and wants to tax them.

    Not only does Illinois not get the tax revenue they were trying to go after they lost all that income tax affiliates would have paid had they been allowed to work. The gov said its just small guys earning beer money who cares, personally I care, however bigger sites like coupon cabin have left the state because Illinois wanted to jerk people around.

    Anyhow, point being I'm jealous I can't work with amazon anymore after seeing your post.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by getdong View Post

      Your making me HATE Pat Quinn our idiot Illinois Governor even more. He pushed amazon pushed back and now people in the state of Illinois can't be part of the Amazon affiliate program because this clown says it means they have a presence in the state and wants to tax them.

      Not only does Illinois not get the tax revenue they were trying to go after they lost all that income tax affiliates would have paid had they been allowed to work. The gov said its just small guys earning beer money who cares, personally I care, however bigger sites like coupon cabin have left the state because Illinois wanted to jerk people around.

      Anyhow, point being I'm jealous I can't work with amazon anymore after seeing your post.
      Have you considered alternatives that let you still work with Amazon. You could use Squidoo. They split the commision so you get 4.25%. Or there is skimlinks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
      You can always use Skimlinks or Viglinks (careful with this though as it belongs to Google as far as I know). They provide access to many more affiliate programs including Ebay, Target, etc.

      Worth to take a look for anyone in your position imo.

      Originally Posted by getdong View Post

      Your making me HATE Pat Quinn our idiot Illinois Governor even more. He pushed amazon pushed back and now people in the state of Illinois can't be part of the Amazon affiliate program because this clown says it means they have a presence in the state and wants to tax them.

      Not only does Illinois not get the tax revenue they were trying to go after they lost all that income tax affiliates would have paid had they been allowed to work. The gov said its just small guys earning beer money who cares, personally I care, however bigger sites like coupon cabin have left the state because Illinois wanted to jerk people around.

      Anyhow, point being I'm jealous I can't work with amazon anymore after seeing your post.
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  • Profile picture of the author pinakel
    can you give one of your site address ?

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Why in the world would someone give you their website address? For kicks and Giggles so you can copy and reverse engineer it?
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    • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
      Originally Posted by pinakel View Post

      can you give one of your site address ?

      thanks
      pinakel
      No one will ever give you their site here, especially if they are making money with it, reasons are obvious, but if you read the posts carefully, you could find some of them by yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vampy
    Congrats for your earnings but i personally think that Adsense is much easier option for most of bloggers as compare to Amazon because you dont need to specify with Adsense but in Amazon you need to focus more and more on a specific product which consume lot of time.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by Vampy View Post

      Congrats for your earnings but i personally think that Adsense is much easier option for most of bloggers as compare to Amazon because you dont need to specify with Adsense but in Amazon you need to focus more and more on a specific product which consume lot of time.
      Amazon doesn't consume a lot of time. And even if it does, at least I'm profiting no? And as long as I enjoy what I'm doing then eff it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    You don't really need that much time for Amazon, consistency is more important if you ask me, I can write one product review in 30 minutes, but I am somewhat lazy and having trouble to force myself to do more
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    • Profile picture of the author MarcusHichens
      My worry with Amazon Review sites are do they have a long shelf life compared to a adsense content site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
    I can testify for Amazon.

    I have had my site for a while, and I have put almost no effort into it - just wrote a few articles (the last one was in September) and have less than 10 Amazon product reviews. I also have a banner Adsense ad and a small square Adsense ad on every page.

    As of now, I have made around $120 from Amazon and less than $10 for Adsense.

    Note - I am getting shit traffic from Google, so I will focus on increasing this in the future when I get a break from school (engineering school is a time-black-hole).
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  • Profile picture of the author voidd
    This makes me think a bit about my next site or two, Maybe I should look into an Amazon review site. But I'm not sure how to do a review site without it seeming spammy.
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