in 24 Hrs ~ Why I Love Amazon Over Adsense

by Ashera
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I have a network of around 40 or so sites, about 20 of them are strictly Amazon, 10 are Amazon/Adsense, and the other 10 are Adsense only.
#adsense #amazon #love
  • Profile picture of the author spunkz
    Thanks for the great inspiration! I totally agree with your assessment and reasoning why Amazon should be the primary focus of someone who is wanting to make serious bucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author GMT
    I think Amazon is great, I definitely plan on more sites focusing on it. I know many guys sell cheaper things on Amazon to have their volume number high enough that they get a higher percentage vs just selling expensive things like you are with the $300. Do you sell cheap things too or just stay 300+ range?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by GMT View Post

      I think Amazon is great, I definitely plan on more sites focusing on it. I know many guys sell cheaper things on Amazon to have their volume number high enough that they get a higher percentage vs just selling expensive things like you are with the $300. Do you sell cheap things too or just stay 300+ range?
      I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Franklin
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        Ashera....

        Congrats on your success!

        That 24 hour cookie alone makes it really exciting to check your stats every day....I would bet that more than a third of your sales come from unrelated products!

        In any event, as you know, the whole trick is to get your visitors to click on those links! Once they do, then the fun really begins for you!

        You should see better results by stripping your sites of the AdSense links and just focusing on Amazon....Visitors don't want to be bombarded with links!
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      • Profile picture of the author xTrav
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        How do you get traffic to your sites? Are any of them on google page one? Or are you getting traffic some other way? Also, what is the age of your sites? How long did it take to start earning this amount of money?
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        • Profile picture of the author hadsek
          Never had much luck with amazon. The reason is silly.If a user from Canada clicks from my US amazon account site,they either automatically switch them to canada site or offer them the option to switch.

          There goes my commission...

          I had a daily 70+ clickers switch country and i get screwed so i removed amazon widgets.

          It makes no sense that i signup for UK, Canada,or Australia accounts for the same associate program. They should synchronize their system and the affiliate be credited no matter what site they head to.

          I'd rather do commission junction where my lead is not lost and my commission discredited

          Xtrav:
          Yes, CJ is effective on highly focused blogs.
          D17, at least for the US, did not require a US bank account when I first set it up in 2010 (may be that's changed now)
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          • Profile picture of the author xTrav
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            Originally Posted by hadsek View Post

            Never had much luck with amazon. The reason is silly.If a user from Canada clicks from my US amazon account site,they either automatically switch them to canada site or offer them the option to switch.

            There goes my commission...

            I had a daily 70+ clickers switch country and i get screwed so i removed amazon widgets.

            It makes no sense that i signup for UK, Canada,or Australia accounts for the same associate program. They should synchronize their system and the affiliate be credited no matter what site they head to.

            I'd rather do commission junction where my lead is not lost and my commission discredited
            Is Commission Junction effective for you??
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          • Profile picture of the author Keith Coppuck
            I think that could be what has been happening to me? I have a few sites and tried Amazon on a few but in a prominent position and received a few clicks but no orders and no commissions. `i am based in the UK have signed up with Amazon.com (not .co.uk) and no commissions?
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            • Profile picture of the author Ben Armstrong
              I've only just started experimenting with Adsense.

              My sites are generally Amazon only but I've decided to try a combination of both on some of the poor performers.
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            • Profile picture of the author Ashera
              Originally Posted by Keith Coppuck View Post

              I think that could be what has been happening to me? I have a few sites and tried Amazon on a few but in a prominent position and received a few clicks but no orders and no commissions. `i am based in the UK have signed up with Amazon.com (not .co.uk) and no commissions?
              Are you ranking on Google.com? I usually find that out of lets say, 50 Amazon clicks, I get between 2-6 sales.
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      • Profile picture of the author Silent0ne
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        This is a huge benefit of Amazon vs Adsense (cookies & indirect purchases), Thanks for sharing Ashera!
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        • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
          Ashera, I have a question about choosing your niche keywords. I've just drilled down to some niche categories in Amazon and checked the competition for these keywords. One is very promising, but the top 10 listings in Google are Amazon categories that match this keyword and various other retailers. Hardly any of these websites include the keyword in their domain, title, description etc. but they are all high profiles sites all aged over 10 years (although virtually no backlinks with the keyword in anchor text).

          I am guessing you are always up against this type of competition, but what makes you decide whether you are likely to get to the top 2 spots?

          Thanks.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ashera
            Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

            Ashera, I have a question about choosing your niche keywords. I've just drilled down to some niche categories in Amazon and checked the competition for these keywords. One is very promising, but the top 10 listings in Google are Amazon categories that match this keyword and various other retailers. Hardly any of these websites include the keyword in their domain, title, description etc. but they are all high profiles sites all aged over 10 years (although virtually no backlinks with the keyword in anchor text).

            I am guessing you are always up against this type of competition, but what makes you decide whether you are likely to get to the top 2 spots?

            Thanks.
            Jodie
            Jodie, my most profitable site has this in the top 5 listings all pr2-pr4 and aged a number of years:

            1. My site
            2. Amazon customer discussions: "my keyphrase"
            3. askville.amazon.com what is the "my keyphrase"
            4. Armstrong.com (huge site, has keyword in title and meta)
            5. Dirtdevil.com (keyphrase in title and meta)

            I personally don't ever try to rank for specific product keywords, as I've had little success with them. But keywords like "best x for y" "x reviews" "x for y". Even if the top 10 are all aged authority sites - if the BLP (back links to page) is weak then I go for it. Even if they have a decent amount of BLP, but their onsite SEO is terribly optimized for that keyword, I go for it anyways. I've been wrong on a couple occasions, and not been able to break page 2 , but it's rare and usually a mistake on my part. If you're comfortable enough to PM me the keyword I can tell you if I personally would take the time to go after it. I promise I won't steal it from you no matter how good it is.
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      • Profile picture of the author kwamster
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I have like 10 sites that don't have anything over $50. The thing is, once someone has my cookie tons of times I notice items being sold on my affiliate ID that I don't even promote. I sold a bunch of baby items the other day, and I don't have any sites that have anything to do with children- but some of them do target mothers!
        If you don't mind me asking, how long does it usually take you to set up your amazon sites from start to finish and once they are set up, how long does it usually take before you start making money?

        Also, what do you think about clickbank and CPA offers?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jay Campbell
    Count in another person here who tends to agree with you. In general in my experience Amazon has also outperformed Adsense.

    Keep in mind to test out the two against each other, as each site will be different with Adsense winning on some types of sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Jay Campbell View Post

      Count in another person here who tends to agree with you. In general in my experience Amazon has also outperformed Adsense.

      Keep in mind to test out the two against each other, as each site will be different with Adsense winning on some types of sites.
      I totally agree Jay- and that's why I do have those 10 sites that are strictly AdSense. But nowadays, I feel like it's not worth the effort for me to build sites based around it so all my domains in the last 6 months have been intentionally built to be Amazon sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author Theoutpostwebs
        what is one of your sites i cannot seem to find one
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    • Profile picture of the author jwmann2
      I have had little success with Amazon but then again I don't own nearly as many websites as you do. How did you accumulate so many? Do you have your Amazon deposited directly into your bank account or do you receive monthly checks?
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  • Profile picture of the author seamate
    I still prefer Adsense to Amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author d17
    Hey, thanks for your post! I will now try Amazon -- never did.

    Offtopic: "If you want to be happy, be" is actually by Kozma Prutkov, which is a pen-name of Alexei Tolstoy & Co. That surname must have confused those amateurs at quotes sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    I never had much luck with amazon, but maybe it is time to re-evaluate and look into doing a few amazon sites. I have been looking for a new project to work on anyway. My question for you Ashera, if you are willing to share, what type of marketing methods do you use? Strictly trying to rank high on Google? Article Marketing?

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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Benjamin Ehinger View Post

      I never had much luck with amazon, but maybe it is time to re-evaluate and look into doing a few amazon sites. I have been looking for a new project to work on anyway. My question for you Ashera, if you are willing to share, what type of marketing methods do you use? Strictly trying to rank high on Google? Article Marketing?

      Benjamin
      Originally Posted by xTrav View Post

      How do you get traffic to your sites? Are any of them on google page one? Or are you getting traffic some other way? Also, what is the age of your sites? How long did it take to start earning this amount of money?
      90 percent of all my traffic to all my websites is via organic search from SEO I did myself on my sites, and the other 10 percent is from a few social bookmarks, youtube videos, and articles I have scattered about. The ages of my sites are all under 3 years old with some of them being as new as a week old. It usually takes anywhere from 1-3 months for me to be able to rank them properly. I usually hit the number 1 spot at around 3 months (I do pretty darn good keyword research if I do say so myself). I've been especially more cautious and slow on my newer sites in the last 6 months. In the beginning I took things a little fast since I was in a bit more of a rush to make a profit but now that I have a pretty steady stream of revenue I can afford to go slower.

      Not every site I ever made was a success, some were flops. But the flops are what taught me how to make the ones I have a success.
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  • Profile picture of the author d17
    @hadsek: "It makes no sense that i signup for UK, Canada,or Australia accounts"

    I don't think they even officially allow it. You have to have a bank account in that country, which is sort of hard to get. (Is this info out-of-date, people?)
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  • Profile picture of the author spoiledkid01
    Ashera ... Do you do review site for amazon or what?
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  • Profile picture of the author YasirYar
    Amazon is wonderful, but for some niches, AdSense remains the best option in my opinion.

    With any site that receives highly targeted traffic to which some single group of products can be marketed effectively, I would definitely choose Amazon too.

    They already have such a great reputation, and such a huge range of products.

    Congratulations on your many sales. Hopefully this will encourage more people to take on AdSense.
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  • Profile picture of the author marc7
    I like Amazon over Adsense...Google is still shutting down Adsense accounts like crazy
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    • Profile picture of the author Daniel Ray
      Originally Posted by marc7 View Post

      I like Amazon over Adsense...Google is still shutting down Adsense accounts like crazy
      This has always been my problem with AdSense... There is not accountability at Google, in regards to finding out 'why' they shut some people's accounts.

      I've never had a problem with my account, and don't personally know anyone who has lost their AdSense account, but the stories are pretty common.
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  • Profile picture of the author Monetize INTL
    Very useful thread, thank you for that. I've never touched Amazon but with this assessment it might be worth a look !
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  • Profile picture of the author d17
    Ashera, is there a difference (in money) between some straight up Amazon banners and Omikase? Which do you use?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by d17 View Post

      Ashera, is there a difference (in money) between some straight up Amazon banners and Omikase? Which do you use?
      I never use Omakase. The majority of my sites are niche sites covering a specific category of products. So I will have review for various products in said category and use "Product In A Post" free plugin (with some minor css changes to make it do what I like).

      I then build a custom Carousel Widget by hand featuring all the said products I review on the site. It's kind of a pain, because every time I write a new review I have to add it- but I think it helps get me more Amazon clicks rather than using Omakse where it sometimes puts random garbage in there.

      I also never use general Amazon banners as I feel like they convert terribly.
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      • Profile picture of the author Certitude
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I also never use general Amazon banners as I feel like they convert terribly.
        Ain't that the truth!

        I've done a little from Amazon in the past but nothing like what you're earning. I may just take another look at it after reading your post!
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        • Profile picture of the author airallineed
          Very informative thread.
          I have to work on my conversion rate too
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  • Profile picture of the author spoiledkid01
    Do you recommend any course that has helped you?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by spoiledkid01 View Post

      Do you recommend any course that has helped you?
      I've never taken any course personally. I've picked up a few things here and there on this forum and just browsing Google, but I've mainly learnt from trial and error and my bachelors in Communication Studies came in handy quite a few times as I learnt a lot about how to communicate effectively and translated it into the online world. I also worked in the commercial insurance industry before switching to full time internet marketing- so basically taken all my knowledge from my previous industries and skill-set and converted it into the online world.

      Originally Posted by pukimama View Post

      Hi Ashera,
      First of all Congrats to your success with Amazon.. I am still learning..
      Do you write all product reviews yourself , outsource or some automation tools (is product in a post you mentioned similar to wpzonbuilder ? )..

      Lastly, would like to ask what is your preferred theme in building your Amazon sites ?

      Thanks for sharing the good tips with us !
      Pukimama
      Thanks . Initially I wrote all my reviews- but as I've gained a steady income I've outsourced them. I actually use my friends little brother - he's 20 years old and I've been teaching him about SEO and in exchange he writes me the majority of my reviews for a reasonable price.

      Ever since the beginning I've used WP Weaver theme - there's a free version in the WordPress theme directory - since then I've moved on to the pro (though its really not necessary I just bought it to support it cause I love it so much). Note there is two WP Weaver's , I use the older one (Weaver I) since they got rid of the two column posts on home page feature in the latest one, and my two column homepage sites convert higher than the single ones. Weaver has like 12 child themes built in and its very versatile. As I mentioned above I combine it with the Amazon Product in a Post (free plugin) and use some basic css to manipulate it to work how I like it.
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Ever since the beginning I've used WP Weaver theme - there's a free version in the WordPress theme directory - since then I've moved on to the pro (though its really not necessary I just bought it to support it cause I love it so much). Note there is two WP Weaver's , I use the older one (Weaver I) since they got rid of the two column posts on home page feature in the latest one, and my two column homepage sites convert higher than the single ones. Weaver has like 12 child themes built in and its very versatile. As I mentioned above I combine it with the Amazon Product in a Post (free plugin) and use some basic css to manipulate it to work how I like it.
        Ashera,

        I'm just playing around with this theme, but I don't see the 2 column option. Where is that configured?

        Thanks,
        Aaron
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  • Profile picture of the author pukimama
    Hi Ashera,
    First of all Congrats to your success with Amazon.. I am still learning..
    Do you write all product reviews yourself , outsource or some automation tools (is product in a post you mentioned similar to wpzonbuilder ? )..

    Lastly, would like to ask what is your preferred theme in building your Amazon sites ?

    Thanks for sharing the good tips with us !
    Pukimama
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshN
    How do you address the issue with users from different countries?

    After some research only about 20% of the people buying my product are in the US.
    another 20 in the uk and another 20% in germany..


    I dont know how to find affiliates to cover my bases

    Glad to hear people are making money with amazon and CJ
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  • Profile picture of the author Success With Dany
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    I hope that Google update doesn't lower your websites! Congrats!
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Originally Posted by Success With Dany View Post

    I hope that Google update doesn't lower your websites! Congrats!
    Bit of a pessimistic random comment, but thanks. I actually noticed improvements or stability almost across the board, except for 5 of my Adsense sites which noticed a slight drop. I have multiple hosts and don't do the same backlinking method on more than 4 sites.
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      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      Bit of a pessimistic random comment, but thanks. I actually noticed improvements or stability almost across the board, except for 5 of my Adsense sites which noticed a slight drop. I have multiple hosts and don't do the same backlinking method on more than 4 sites.
      You reassure me because I was about to start a new run of niche sites. I thought the G-update would've made my IM efforts worthless.
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  • Profile picture of the author owenlee
    Hey pal,

    congrats on the success...one question i would like to ask. Is the traffic using SEO or paid methods?

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by owenlee View Post

      Hey pal,

      congrats on the success...one question i would like to ask. Is the traffic using SEO or paid methods?

      Thanks
      Hi Owen, thanks! I mentioned above, 90 percent is organic SEO traffic and the other 10 percent is from videos, articles, and social bookmarks.

      I'm working on diversifying my traffic network- as I don't want to have to rely solely on Google to bring in traffic.

      I actually tried setting up an AdWords campaign once on a site- and was rejected for being too affiliateish.
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      • Profile picture of the author SlfMastery
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Hi Owen, thanks! I mentioned above, 90 percent is organic SEO traffic and the other 10 percent is from videos, articles, and social bookmarks.

        I'm working on diversifying my traffic network- as I don't want to have to rely solely on Google to bring in traffic.

        I actually tried setting up an AdWords campaign once on a site- and was rejected for being too affiliateish.
        You're a wise man "Ashera!" I thought about diversifying revenue types, but not really diversifying traffic types. One Google slap and there goes your income.

        So, if Adwords turned you down, what other paid traffic have you found success with? Thanks for the diversify traffic tip!

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    • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
      Originally Posted by owenlee View Post

      Hey pal,

      congrats on the success...one question i would like to ask. Is the traffic using SEO or paid methods?

      Thanks
      He said it. SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    How many sales did you get today? I got a grand total of 1 sale, the worst day so far this year. Damn SEO.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      How many sales did you get today? I got a grand total of 1 sale, the worst day so far this year. Damn SEO.
      Did OK yesterday - was around $300. On days and off days
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      • Profile picture of the author Andy Hart
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Did OK yesterday - was around $300. On days and off days
        Hey,

        Just out of interest, how have you been doing with all the Google algo updates??

        Do you monitor your rank on a keyword level? If so have you seen anything major when the very public Google hammer has been dropped??

        One more quick question, how do you mainly link out to amazon, is it via in content links and how many links (affiliate) on average do you have per page?

        (was that 2 questions?? lol)

        Thanks
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Andy Hart View Post

          Hey,

          Just out of interest, how have you been doing with all the Google algo updates??

          Do you monitor your rank on a keyword level? If so have you seen anything major when the very public Google hammer has been dropped??

          One more quick question, how do you mainly link out to amazon, is it via in content links and how many links (affiliate) on average do you have per page?

          (was that 2 questions?? lol)

          Thanks
          Andy
          Hey Andy, I noticed no ill effects on my Amazon sites and even saw a few gains, but did see a slight decrease on a few of my AdSense sites. I do monitor by keywords, I use SerpBook and track all my keywords with over 1k searches.

          On the homepage I have 1 per post shown - it's done via a "buy now" button. On the post page themselves I have the buy now button as well as a link at the bottom that says "click here to learn more" or "click here to buy now" or something similar. I know a lot of people have had issues with directly linking to Amazon, especially from the homepage, but I've never experienced them.

          These are sample of my ranking changes in the past week:

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          • Profile picture of the author richinca
            Congratulations!

            How many posts on the homepage and how many posts per site on average?

            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Hey Andy, I noticed no ill effects on my Amazon sites and even saw a few gains, but did see a slight decrease on a few of my AdSense sites. I do monitor by keywords, I use SerpBook and track all my keywords with over 1k searches.

            On the homepage I have 1 per post shown - it's done via a "buy now" button. On the post page themselves I have the buy now button as well as a link at the bottom that says "click here to learn more" or "click here to buy now" or something similar. I know a lot of people have had issues with directly linking to Amazon, especially from the homepage, but I've never experienced them.

            These are sample of my ranking changes in the past week:

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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    It would be interesting to know, what is your main backlinking strategy and did you alter it since Big G recently came down on automated backlinking?
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Carl
    Excellent job! My question is: do you also have keyword based informational articles on the site without affiliate links? For purposes of creating an audience and driving search engine traffic? If so, what percentage of total posts are the informational articles and do you outsource them?

    Congrats on the success!
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      It would be interesting to know, what is your main backlinking strategy and did you alter it since Big G recently came down on automated backlinking?
      For all my sites I use my own private blog network, some manual blog commenting, some quality social bookmarks, some quality wikis, and have about 15-30 quality web 2.0's. I use all my junk backlinks to link back to those backlinks.


      Originally Posted by Brendan Carl View Post

      Excellent job! My question is: do you also have keyword based informational articles on the site without affiliate links? For purposes of creating an audience and driving search engine traffic? If so, what percentage of total posts are the informational articles and do you outsource them?

      Congrats on the success!
      I personally only have 1 informational article on each site. I use the Weaver free Wordpress theme and stick that on a page and sticky it on the top. I also do a ton of interpage linking which I think really decreases my bounce rate. None of my Amazon sites have over a 45 percent bounce rate which I am proud of. Average time on all sites together, is probably something about 4 minutes.

      Originally Posted by richinca View Post

      Congratulations!

      How many posts on the homepage and how many posts per site on average?
      I have between 4-8 posts on homepage and have between 8-30 product reviews on each site.


      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      Well, i really don't know how you research and create your ad sense site.

      For me, i really can not say which is the best because it all depends on your keywords, site layout e.t.c

      I make more money from ad sense than Amazon maybe because am new to Amazon.

      One of my adsense site generate about $125 daily, approximately $3, 750 monthly, that is just one site.
      I research them in almost the same way I research my Amazon sites. Find a low competition keyword (but in this case instead of looking for OCI I look for CPC). I've just never had tons of huge success with them. It might be because rarely do I focus on keywords with over 4k exact searches - or maybe I just am better at doing product sites than basic "How to" and "informational" sites - either way, congrats on your success and stick to what works for you.
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        Thanks again. How long are your reviews (words)? Images? Videos? Other?
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          Originally Posted by richinca View Post

          Thanks again. How long are your reviews (words)? Images? Videos? Other?
          Reviews are between 400-800 words. On some products it's hard to write more than 400 on something so trivial. I use images on every post (with a jquery plugin) and will occasionally link to a YouTube video as long as it doesn't have any affiliate links in it.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        For all my sites I use my own private blog network, some manual blog commenting, some quality social bookmarks, some quality wikis, and have about 15-30 quality web 2.0's. I use all my junk backlinks to link back to those backlinks.
        When you submit to web 2.0 sites does the content have to be unique for each site or does that only apply for the biggest ones such as Squidoo and Hubpages?

        Also, do you submit to 15-30 web 2.0's per product you are promoting or is that for the entire site?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          When you submit to web 2.0 sites does the content have to be unique for each site or does that only apply for the biggest ones such as Squidoo and Hubpages?

          Also, do you submit to 15-30 web 2.0's per product you are promoting or is that for the entire site?

          I only use unique content on my Web 2.0s that point directly to my money site and they are all made by hand. Each have at least two articles - granted there not the most amazing things in the world but they are written by a native english speaker. Any spun content I do use or article networks point to my tier 1 links, never to my money site. I do 15-30 total per site, not per product. It's really my private blog network that I've built up that allows me to rank my sites so easily. I have at least 10 pr2+ domains for each of the 5 niches I focus on.
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          • Profile picture of the author rajat2k2k
            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            I only use unique content on my Web 2.0s that point directly to my money site and they are all made by hand. Each have at least two articles - granted there not the most amazing things in the world but they are written by a native english speaker. Any spun content I do use or article networks point to my tier 1 links, never to my money site. I do 15-30 total per site, not per product. It's really my private blog network that I've built up that allows me to rank my sites so easily. I have at least 10 pr2+ domains for each of the 5 niches I focus on.
            Ashera,


            Thanks for your help.

            What are tier 1 links ?

            Let's say you have a site about camera reviews and have all the different camera reviews. Does your hubpages/squidoo topics are 'which camer to buy?' type of posts or is itself a review of a specific camera?
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            • Profile picture of the author Ashera
              Originally Posted by rajat2k2k View Post

              Ashera,


              Thanks for your help.

              What are tier 1 links ?

              Let's say you have a site about camera reviews and have all the different camera reviews. Does your hubpages/squidoo topics are 'which camer to buy?' type of posts or is itself a review of a specific camera?
              Tier 1 links are the links that go directly to money site, Tier 2 links go to Tier 1.

              My Web 2.0 topics would cover different concepts about cameras - I would cover things like the history of Canon Camera, history of Nikon, evolution of cameras, history of cameras themselves, and stuff like that.
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                Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

                Tier 1 links are the links that go directly to money site, Tier 2 links go to Tier 1.

                My Web 2.0 topics would cover different concepts about cameras - I would cover things like the history of Canon Camera, history of Nikon, evolution of cameras, history of cameras themselves, and stuff like that.
                Great info, will be saving this thread on more study on it.
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                • Profile picture of the author Nathan251
                  great work Ashera and thank you for being so open with sharing information

                  I have 2 newbie type questions

                  1. why do you have so many hosting accounts? you are not doing anything black hat - why not have everything on one host, you'll save a lot of cash and organisational work

                  2. would you only recommend amazon affiliate marketing to people residing in the usa because amazon.com is by far the biggest market. If a spanish or german or english or irish person wanted to do amazon affiliate marketing am i correct in saying they would be restricted to amazon.de or amazon.es or amazon.co.uk? Or is it possible for them to direct their traffic to the amazon.com site too even if they are not a resident in the US?
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    Like we can make a lot more using amazon. Sad sense is really grim. They pay very little for each like - sometimes less than a penny. Also, we cannot encourage our consumers. In contrast, we can incentivize people to buy from amazing amazon.
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    I also do better with Amazon than AdSense usually. Although I haven't recently been doing as well as you (I've had some huge pay days in the past though... )
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  • Profile picture of the author poppa5502
    How crazy you are to talk about this because I was thinking about ditching adsense all together. I just don't know what it is but i think Google is starting to slip...so I'm right be hide you bro...you made a good choice

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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Well, i really don't know how you research and create your ad sense site.

    For me, i really can not say which is the best because it all depends on your keywords, site layout e.t.c

    I make more money from ad sense than Amazon maybe because am new to Amazon.

    One of my adsense site generate about $125 daily, approximately $3, 750 monthly, that is just one site.
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  • Profile picture of the author CodeBotics
    How do you run so many sites simultaneously? Do you not find yourself getting bogged down by everything? I'm assuming all your sites need updating regularly?
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      Originally Posted by CodeBotics View Post

      How do you run so many sites simultaneously? Do you not find yourself getting bogged down by everything? I'm assuming all your sites need updating regularly?
      Organization is key - I've gotten it to the point where I end up working about 15 -20 hours a week. Once my sites are ranking I add about 1 review every 2-4 weeks, and sprinkle a few quality back-links here and there. I also have a close friend who has his own blog network as well so we sometimes will help each other out as long as the niche is similar, because I trust him and know the pride he takes in his network. I also use ManageWP which helps everything stay streamlined.
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      • Profile picture of the author bkgroup
        Amazone is great but the thing is people must purchase something, While adsense is PPC based ad program.
        I love adsense rather than amazon but after seeing your post, I think I should love both because both of them are helping us to earn money.
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      • Profile picture of the author paulgl
        Ashera, not bad. You do what works. Ditch one,
        go for the other. I myself do both. Your post
        certainly should certainly get some people off
        their butts.

        I do pretty good with amazon on squidoo. You may want to
        try that.

        But here is some reality for others. Many people that are
        not successful with adsense try and do bad things.
        You can't do that with amazon. That is, you
        need traffic. Targeted traffic. That takes hard
        work. And you cannot fake a sale. If you go into
        amazon with some get-rich-adsense mentality, you
        will fail.

        And this thread is not about google. Or at least it should not
        be. People need to know that amazon and google are
        partners in more ways than one, from kindle to
        blogspot, and all points in between.

        I can't wait for the
        Amazon is a monopoly and they are killing me! threads.

        Paul
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

          Ashera, not bad. You do what works. Ditch one,
          go for the other. I myself do both. Your post
          certainly should certainly get some people off
          their butts.

          I do pretty good with amazon on squidoo. You may want to
          try that.

          But here is some reality for others. Many people that are
          not successful with adsense try and do bad things.
          You can't do that with amazon. That is, you
          need traffic. Targeted traffic. That takes hard
          work. And you cannot fake a sale. If you go into
          amazon with some get-rich-adsense mentality, you
          will fail.

          And this thread is not about google. Or at least it should not
          be. People need to know that amazon and google are
          partners in more ways than one, from kindle to
          blogspot, and all points in between.

          I can't wait for the
          Amazon is a monopoly and they are killing me! threads.

          Paul
          Thanks Paul - that comment is appreciated from you. I've never really tried to monetize my Squidoo's and used them more for back linking - but I do need to broaden my horizons because I know I rely way too much on Google for my traffic and revenue and that's a ripe setup for failure.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Very usefull thread, personally I'm a total noob with Amazon. I once purchased freshstorebuilder but it's so spammy that it just can't rank.

            Couple questions:
            • How do you present the Amazon products at your site?
            • How many products/links per page?
            • Do you copy reviews from Amazon to your site?
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      • Profile picture of the author The Expert
        How you make a site centered around the keyword "Best Chicago Mechanics" work on Amazon? I don't know but I think it would work for Adsense in the #1 position.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by The Expert View Post

          How you make a site centered around the keyword "Best Chicago Mechanics" work on Amazon? I don't know but I think it would work for Adsense in the #1 position.
          Yeah that doesn't work and it doesn't work for a lot of other keywords as well, you really need to have some practise experience with Amazon to know what niches to target. I had a furniture site that got 30 visits a day, the site made $2/month. I mean worse then that ain't possible I guess. Furniture is something people like to touch before buying I would assume, but even with small accessories that ranked decently I hardly got any sales, while those are the things I expected people "would" buy, but still nothing. Perhaps people just like to look what's available before they start shopping in that niche or just to compare prices, I don't know.

          Another thing I dont like about Amazon, but thats more related to some crappy software called "freshstorebuilder" is that before people check-out Amazon asks them if they want to keep looking around first and then people get into thinking mode and before you know the 24hr cookie is gone. The software I used used some shopping cart system where they got transferred directly from my site to the Amazon check out page. Worse construction ever I admit.
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Another thing I dont like about Amazon, but thats more related to some crappy software called "freshstorebuilder" is that before people check-out Amazon asks them if they want to keep looking around first and then people get into thinking mode and before you know the 24hr cookie is gone. The software I used used some shopping cart system where they got transferred directly from my site to the Amazon check out page. Worse construction ever I admit.
            On Amazon's help section it mentions that you can add links to your site which add the item directly to the customers shopping cart using Add-to-cart buttons so the cookies will be 90 days.

            Have you ever used these links and did you experience a better conversion rate than using standard links? It says they typically convert significantly than links to product detail pages.
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              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              On Amazon's help section it mentions that you can add links to your site which add the item directly to the customers shopping cart using Add-to-cart buttons so the cookies will be 90 days.

              Have you ever used these links and did you experience a better conversion rate than using standard links? It says they typically convert significantly than links to product detail pages.
              First time I heard this, thanks for the tip. I will look into this soon!
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            • Profile picture of the author mrtrance
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              On Amazon's help section it mentions that you can add links to your site which add the item directly to the customers shopping cart using Add-to-cart buttons so the cookies will be 90 days.

              Have you ever used these links and did you experience a better conversion rate than using standard links? It says they typically convert significantly than links to product detail pages.
              Is this something we have to hard code on each post or is there some sort of plugin that will help with this?

              wolfmmiii,

              How are you achieving this sort of thing on your sites whre when you click on the image or buy now it takes them to their shopping cart to add instead of the product page?
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        Congrats on your success
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      • Profile picture of the author Theoutpostwebs
        ashera do you work alone?between work and whatver i find it very difficult to control one site let alone ten how do you do it? you seem very intellegent in this field. let me know thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author boomerevents
        I'm new to this. Would you mind providing one or more links to one of your Amazon sites so I can get a real world example of what you do? I think I want to apply your techniques to some of my current websites.

        Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author shmeeko69
        Well done, those are great earning from your sites. I have reasonable success the UK program and don't use Adsense, as I feel it offers a distraction to visitors and the returns are poor. I would much rather people that arrive on any of my pages focus on the said product rather that look at related ads.

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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by shmeeko69 View Post

          Well done, those are great earning from your sites. I have reasonable success the UK program and don't use Adsense, as I feel it offers a distraction to visitors and the returns are poor. I would much rather people that arrive on any of my pages focus on the said product rather that look at related ads.

          Mark
          I agree with this completely. I'm killing it with Amazon and I'm certain that adding distractions would only reduce affiliate link click-throughs.

          Since my strategy focuses on intercepting buyers who have their wallets out (late in the buying cycle), I don't want to do anything to interrupt their purchase decision.
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          • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
            Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

            Since my strategy focuses on intercepting buyers who have their wallets out (late in the buying cycle), I don't want to do anything to interrupt their purchase decision.
            Hey Wolf,

            I was just wondering what you (and other Amazon affiliates) are thinking about the new Google Shopping which will dominate SERPs. I am guessing these results will only be affected for buying keywords like 'product x', 'buy product x' and 'product x review' for example. Will you be targeting other keywords instead or will you simply create more sites to account for the loss in traffic? Or are you not worried at all?
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  • Profile picture of the author eman1
    Great post! Thanks for the inspiration! I totally agree with you. Amazon should be the primary focus of anyone who wants to make serious money as a affiliate marketer.
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    Really interesting, I think I need to give this a go and see how it works.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    How did you manage to fair so well after this Penguin update? My traffic has dropped 60-70% and I haven't done anything like keyword stuffing. I only used SEOPressor.

    Do you include your targetted keyword in the header tags and follow the usual on-page SEO advice such as keyword in the first sentence, etc..
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  • Congos buddy.I love reading success stories. In your private blog network,what kind of sites(blogger,wordpress,insanejournal) you use.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by captainjacksparrow View Post

      Congos buddy.I love reading success stories. In your private blog network,what kind of sites(blogger,wordpress,insanejournal) you use.
      Private blog network is a mix of html sites and WordPress sites to try to avoid a footprint as much as possible. Also I make sure to have at least 3 posts on each of them with no outbound links at all, and to link to an authority site in every post that I do have links.
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      • Profile picture of the author Elle Holder
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Private blog network is a mix of html sites and WordPress sites to try to avoid a footprint as much as possible. Also I make sure to have at least 3 posts on each of them with no outbound links at all, and to link to an authority site in every post that I do have links.
        Ashera, thanks for sharing your story. Very motivational! I too have been maintaining Amazon sites for the last 2-3 years, and have also built up a blog network off HTML, Wordress and a few other platforms, spread across 3 hosts and 3 countries. But I am nowhere near as dedicated as you! There is certainly room for improvement here.

        Questions. Do you link to any of your own sites from within posts, or do you only link from sidebar/blogroll type links? And how many posts on average would you say you have on your tier 1 and tier 2 sites?

        Thanks again for taking the time to answer everyone's questions, mine included.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Elle Holder View Post

          Ashera, thanks for sharing your story. Very motivational! I too have been maintaining Amazon sites for the last 2-3 years, and have also built up a blog network off HTML, Wordress and a few other platforms, spread across 3 hosts and 3 countries. But I am nowhere near as dedicated as you! There is certainly room for improvement here.

          Questions. Do you link to any of your own sites from within posts, or do you only link from sidebar/blogroll type links? And how many posts on average would you say you have on your tier 1 and tier 2 sites?

          Thanks again for taking the time to answer everyone's questions, mine included.
          No problem! I am glad you find the info helpful. I do the occasional blogroll link but tend to stay away from them most of the time. All my links are contextual - meaning they are within the paragraph. I will occasionally do a blogroll link but if I do it will never be my primary anchor text. On my Tier 1 Web 2.0's I have between 2 and 4 articles and on my Tier 2's I do 1-2. Each of my blog network sites have at least 5 posts and I make sure to link to different sites on all of them so its not obvious to Google that 50 websites are all linking to the same 50 pages.

          Hope this answers your question!
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  • Profile picture of the author faysal969
    I definitely believe that success in Affiliate or Adsense mostly depends on the quality of traffic. If you select such keywords which are used to find information then you will get success through Adsense. On the other hand only using buying keywords for your site optimization you will get affiliate sales. So keyword selection is more important for getting success in making money online. By the way I also believe Amazon is more profitable than adsens.
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    Wow this thread is really good and filled with lots of information! *thanx* Ashera.
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  • Profile picture of the author spen
    Hi, Ashera
    thanks for your story.
    I have a question.
    What Criteria Do you Use to select a niche?

    thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by spen View Post

      Hi, Ashera
      thanks for your story.
      I have a question.
      What Criteria Do you Use to select a niche?

      thanks
      Hi Spen,

      I'm glad you found it helpful. My two most important aspects when finding a niche are A. low organic SEO competition and B. high online commercial intent.

      Hope this helps
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      • Profile picture of the author spen
        Do you think about backlinks?

        thanks

        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Hi Spen,

        I'm glad you found it helpful. My two most important aspects when finding a niche are A. low organic SEO competition and B. high online commercial intent.

        Hope this helps
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by spen View Post

          Do you think about backlinks?

          thanks
          You mean competing pages backlinks? Yes I most definitely analyze this before selecting a keyword - I measure the top 8 or so onsite SEO as well as their back link profile. Backlink numbers mean absolutely nothing to me, since you can have thousands and thousands of backlinks but they can all be of low quality. Since I target keywords with under 4k searches mainly - ending up at number 5 doesn't do me much good. I'm only REALLY happy and making money if I'm in the first or second spot.
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          • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Since I target keywords with under 4k searches mainly - ending up at number 5 doesn't do me much good.
            What is the minimum number of searches you'll go? By 4K I assume you mean per month, so would you go less than 1k?
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              Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

              What is the minimum number of searches you'll go? By 4K I assume you mean per month, so would you go less than 1k?
              I'll never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches per month (since I target Amazon.com) - and if the search is less than 2k per month I won't do it unless I'm targeting more than 2 keywords which are 1k or more each. Personally, it's just not worth all the trouble unless theres a decent search volume.
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      • Profile picture of the author GerryLee
        Ashera, thanks for the thread...good stuff!
        Back on page 2, you mentioned low organic SEO and high commercial intent as your top criteria for new niche opportunities. Could you expand on each of those a bit more...maybe define them a little better for us Newba?
        Thanks, gr
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        • Profile picture of the author LKR
          This is interesting. I've dabbled with Amazon in the past but nothing really serious.

          Do you think Amazon would work well with content sites, too, as opposed to just review sites?
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        • Profile picture of the author StoneTownFM
          Originally Posted by GerryLee View Post

          Ashera, thanks for the thread...good stuff!
          Back on page 2, you mentioned low organic SEO and high commercial intent as your top criteria for new niche opportunities. Could you expand on each of those a bit more...maybe define them a little better for us Newba?
          Thanks, gr
          I'm not him but he probably meant what everybody is looking for: a niche that doesn't have many competitors but can be monetized very well.

          Examples of high commercial intent niches include, for example, all Amazon categories whose products cost +$100. If you target these items (= write reviews & recommendations) to people who are ready to buy them, that's what I'd call high commercial intent. But there's lots of competition about many of those products, so one must choose theirs carefully.

          If you know something about a +$100 Amazon category, pick low-competition products and write about them. It's hard NOT to make money that way.
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  • Profile picture of the author purplecone
    I am ready to take Adsense off my sites, too. Amazon does better for me, though I don't get close to your daily earnings. Still working on it.

    What tool do you use to determine OCI?

    Thank you for sharing!

    Linda
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by purplecone View Post

      I am ready to take Adsense off my sites, too. Amazon does better for me, though I don't get close to your daily earnings. Still working on it.

      What tool do you use to determine OCI?

      Thank you for sharing!

      Linda
      I use Ultimate Niche Finder to for my initial OCI evaluation but also try to take a 3rd party stance and think about "if I'm searching for this term, am I looking to buy something or am I looking strictly for information?"

      A strong middle ground always works as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author zelgly2
    Thanks you for sharing all the information with us and congratulation! I should also concentrate on amazon and should write all the reviews myself. I wish to earn more from amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author Andrew Simond
    According to me Amazon is the best. I read some review already.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gertude32Wass
    Thanks for the great inspiration! I totally agree with your assessment and reasoning why Amazon should be the primary focus of someone who is wanting to make serious bucks.
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  • Profile picture of the author MarvyDery
    Amazon is the best choice if you want to make some serious money online. Adsense needs more clicks and some keywords don't really pat at all. the highest paying keywords is also very difficult to rank. Which means no traffic, no money. Amazon rocks!
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  • Profile picture of the author derprinz
    For me, it's different
    i tried amazon, but people don't buy
    they just click so adsense was better for me
    All that was before the google update
    because now, i don't receive visitors anymore since my site is nolonger on page 1
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  • Profile picture of the author ketset
    I have to say that Adsense was better for me than for Amazon, Adsense like others had said is easy to implement and gain from so I have stuck with Adsense all the way and actually make more with Adsense on my Amazon sites?!
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    • Profile picture of the author stevo235
      With my first mfa site I am having very little success with amazon 1 sale in 67 clicks. Do you find that more expensive products convert at a lower rate because all my products are over $200 dollars. Also in an unrelated question does traffic affect your cost per click, because when I checked the contextual targeting tool for my keywords there all over a dollar and quite a few are over $2.00 yet my adsense clicks have been averaging around 25 cents. Yesterday I got my first decent click at almost a dollar incidentally my traffic has increased as a result of hitting page #1 for my main targeted keyword. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by stevo235 View Post

        With my first mfa site I am having very little success with amazon 1 sale in 67 clicks. Do you find that more expensive products convert at a lower rate because all my products are over $200 dollars. Also in an unrelated question does traffic affect your cost per click, because when I checked the contextual targeting tool for my keywords there all over a dollar and quite a few are over $2.00 yet my adsense clicks have been averaging around 25 cents. Yesterday I got my first decent click at almost a dollar incidentally my traffic has increased as a result of hitting page #1 for my main targeted keyword. Any input on this would be greatly appreciated.
        I don't think cheaper products convert any better than $200+ products, but that's just my experience.
        I sell more $300 and $400 vacuum cleaners than $50-$100 ones, and I have an equal share of both.

        I know that AdSense doesn't pay you the CPC that the advertiser pays since they take a cut. It also all depends on what ads they show and people click. I don't know a ton about AdSense though.


        Originally Posted by ddwebx View Post

        I'd really like to start promoting some Amazon products, as I haven't been earning so good with Adsense. What kind of keywords would you usually go for ? I'm researching on a real product, and I can see many brand names I could easily outrank, around 3 to be exact, each one with upto 10k exact monthly searches.

        Would you create an authority site for this and try to rank for those 3 brand names?
        I personally never target brand names as keywords - if anything you're bounce rate will be through the roof.


        Originally Posted by kthor View Post

        Ashera - Thanks for this info, great stuff and very useful
        question when using Ultimate Niche Finder, do you target Hard, medium or easy KW? or combo's of all three?
        I target easy and medium keywords. Never hard - the effort necessary to rank for those aren't worth it for a keyword with less than 5k searches, IMO.
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    I'd really like to start promoting some Amazon products, as I haven't been earning so good with Adsense. What kind of keywords would you usually go for ? I'm researching on a real product, and I can see many brand names I could easily outrank, around 3 to be exact, each one with upto 10k exact monthly searches.

    Would you create an authority site for this and try to rank for those 3 brand names?
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    Ashera - Thanks for this info, great stuff and very useful
    question when using Ultimate Niche Finder, do you target Hard, medium or easy KW? or combo's of all three?
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  • Profile picture of the author ktonline
    I have success with both adsense and amazon but amazon is far better. Some niches I use adsense because of low commision on amazon and I end up making more with adsense. But overall I still like amazon over adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author satrap
    Congrats on your success ashera.
    I think it really depends on your niche. Amazon won't work for everybody and in every niche, just like Adsense won't work for everybody and every niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

    I'll never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches per month (since I target Amazon.com) - and if the search is less than 2k per month I won't do it unless I'm targeting more than 2 keywords which are 1k or more each. Personally, it's just not worth all the trouble unless theres a decent search volume.
    When you say you never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches, is that for the general term for the product i.e. "Panasonic Cordless Drill" and not including the specific model number in the keyword?

    Also, when you add a review, how many keywords do you target? Do you just focus on one keyword and hope to get traffic from other long tail keyword phrases that are throughout the review or do you target multiple keywords and build anchor text backlinks to them.
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      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      When you say you never go with less than 1k exact USA local searches, is that for the general term for the product i.e. "Panasonic Cordless Drill" and not including the specific model number in the keyword?

      Also, when you add a review, how many keywords do you target? Do you just focus on one keyword and hope to get traffic from other long tail keyword phrases that are throughout the review or do you target multiple keywords and build anchor text backlinks to them.
      Some sites the main focus is one keyword, while others are like 2 or 5 of 1k each.

      I never attempt to rank for the actual model number, as I've had low success with it. I always find that I rank for multiple long tail keywords without even trying.
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      • Profile picture of the author gohardorgohome
        Great post Ashera!

        If you don't mind I have a few questions:

        1. Do you no follow your aff links (does it matter?)?
        2. Are you primarily backlinking the home page or your inner pages equally?
        3. What kind of anchor text variation do you use in your link building?

        Thanks again!
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by gohardorgohome View Post

          Great post Ashera!

          If you don't mind I have a few questions:

          1. Do you no follow your aff links (does it matter?)?
          2. Are you primarily backlinking the home page or your inner pages equally?
          3. What kind of anchor text variation do you use in your link building?

          Thanks again!
          Thanks, I'm glad you found it useful! I should really compile all the info I've posted here and release as a PDF.

          1. I don't, though it might be a good idea. Might hire a VA to do that to all my sites eventually. It's probably proper.

          2. I back link on average about 70 percent home page 30 percent deep links.

          3. I use a huge anchor text variation, which is part of the reason I've never really had an issue with algo changes. Maybe 20-25 percent is my main keyword and the rest are variations of it, actual product names, things like "this site", "here", and the url as anchor text itself. "http://sitename.com" "www.sitename.com" "sitename.com". I also use a lot of 1 word keywords to make it look as natural as possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
    I personally think it depends on your niche.
    Just one of my sites bring me about $60-$80 a day with adsense.

    I've never understood how people used adsense with the very low commissions... until realizing people are selling big ticket items

    But if i sell a big ticket items refer to make 50% of the commission... Just me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

      I personally think it depends on your niche.
      Just one of my sites bring me about $60-$80 a day with adsense.

      I've never understood how people used adsense with the very low commissions... until realizing people are selling big ticket items

      But if i sell a big ticket items refer to make 50% of the commission... Just me.

      Of course I fully agree it depends on your niche, I stated that in the OP. What I am trying to say is you can make a much larger amount of money with a smaller amount of traffic with Amazon Aff than you can with AdSense. How many unique visitors a day do you get to make $60-$80 on AdSense? Comparably, I make that on three sites with only 30 uniques a day each. Granted you may have struck gold with a very high CPC, but those are usually much harder to rank for. I'm able to rank the sites that I do with a pretty light back link profile using these untapped niche keywords I discover, which I've found is a much easier than targeting a 10k exact search term for an AdSense site with over a $2 cpc.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Of course I fully agree it depends on your niche, I stated that in the OP. What I am trying to say is you can make a much larger amount of money with a smaller amount of traffic with Amazon Aff than you can with AdSense. How many unique visitors a day do you get to make $60-$80 on AdSense? Comparably, I make that on three sites with only 30 uniques a day each. Granted you may have struck gold with a very high CPC, but those are usually much harder to rank for. I'm able to rank the sites that I do with a pretty light back link profile using these untapped niche keywords I discover, which I've found is a much easier than targeting a 10k exact search term for an AdSense site with over a $2 cpc.

        Maybe youre right. i have absolutely no knowlege whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

        I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

        What do you think?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

          Maybe youre right. i have absolutely no knowlege whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

          I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

          What do you think?
          None of my sites would get approved for AdWords because they link directly to Amazon from the homepage... I tried at one point.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Of course I fully agree it depends on your niche, I stated that in the OP. What I am trying to say is you can make a much larger amount of money with a smaller amount of traffic with Amazon Aff than you can with AdSense. How many unique visitors a day do you get to make $60-$80 on AdSense? Comparably, I make that on three sites with only 30 uniques a day each. Granted you may have struck gold with a very high CPC, but those are usually much harder to rank for. I'm able to rank the sites that I do with a pretty light back link profile using these untapped niche keywords I discover, which I've found is a much easier than targeting a 10k exact search term for an AdSense site with over a $2 cpc.

        Maybe you're right. i have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

        I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

        What do you think?
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

          Maybe you're right. i have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about amazon... but youre making me reconsider.

          I get free advertising on adwords and I get about avg 500 uniques a day to a my site. Id love to send you some of this free traffic if you can help me start up a few amazon sites.

          What do you think?
          Weird, my post was deleted. I can't use AdWords for my sites because they get rejected by linking directly to Amazon Referral from home page.
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          • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Weird, my post was deleted. I can't use AdWords for my sites because they get rejected by linking directly to Amazon Referral from home page.
            Damn... That sucks. So basically, if i created amazon sites, i wouldn't even be able to promote them with my current traffic method?

            How lovely is that?

            so is SEO your main traffic source?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Nice job Ashera! We've been thinking about jumping into using amazon to supplement our adsense and your post was very inspiring. Do you have a blog?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Nice job Ashera! We've been thinking about jumping into using amazon to supplement our adsense and your post was very inspiring. Do you have a blog?
      Thanks - I don't have any internet marketing blog - besides my basic one on my website design/seo company site, and that's more or less just basic information.

      I do intend to eventually package all the information I provided here into a simple PDF and will most likely just release it was a free package for all War Room members - but no time frame or estimate when that will happen.


      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Thanks for the info Ashera.

      How much did it cost you to setup your private blog network and what are the monthly costs for running it? Also, where did you learn about how to go about setting it up?
      No problem! It cost me around $800 for all the domains initially (but I bought these over time). It's around $500 each year to renew them. Hosting runs me quite a bit - I think its something like $300 a month combined. But because I am able to rank most of my sites so easily with it I feel it's completely worth it since I make it all back in a day or two.

      I didn't learn anywhere specific. I've never actually purchased any WSO, besides software itself. Just from reading around, other peoples experiences, and Google. In my entire time of having my network I've only had ONE site de indexed and I still have no idea why.
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    • Profile picture of the author todawg_not
      Ashera, you made more money in 1 day than I did for 2011 for Amazon associates program.... lol

      Good work

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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Thanks for the info Ashera.

    How much did it cost you to setup your private blog network and what are the monthly costs for running it? Also, where did you learn about how to go about setting it up?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Do you utilize any tools like Chris Guthries easyazon plugin to help you with your amazon product posting?
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      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Do you utilize any tools like Chris Guthries easyazon plugin to help you with your amazon product posting?
      Every site I make is done using the Weaver II Theme customized to my liking (free version in Wordpress theme directory works fine ), and the free plugin Amazon Product In a Post, with simple css customization to make it work for my needs.

      I'm not familiar with that plugin, but what I use works perfectly if you are building these sites manually like they should be built.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    I noticed earlier you mentioned that you use your own private blog network. How big have you grown that network to? I've also been heavily considering doing this in the next month or so to help give all my sites that extra boost.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      I noticed earlier you mentioned that you use your own private blog network. How big have you grown that network to? I've also been heavily considering doing this in the next month or so to help give all my sites that extra boost.
      I think the exact number of domains in my network is 53 at the moment.

      Though I do have access to a friends network of another 30 something domains as long as my sites fills some of the niche categories.

      We both don't just throw random unrelated stuff on a page to protect the integrity of it, which is why I choose to focus on about 6 different niches, though I do expand occasionally out of my bubbles.


      Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

      Damn... That sucks. So basically, if i created amazon sites, i wouldn't even be able to promote them with my current traffic method?

      How lovely is that?

      so is SEO your main traffic source?
      I think you might be able to if you don't link to Amazon from the home page, but I'm not 100 percent sure. AdWords is not my forte.

      Organic traffic accounts for 90 percent of my traffic while 10 percent comes in from videos, articles, and random places.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        I think the exact number of domains in my network is 53 at the moment.

        Though I do have access to a friends network of another 30 something domains as long as my sites fills some of the niche categories.

        We both don't just throw random unrelated stuff on a page to protect the integrity of it, which is why I choose to focus on about 6 different niches, though I do expand occasionally out of my bubbles.




        I think you might be able to if you don't link to Amazon from the home page, but I'm not 100 percent sure. AdWords is not my forte.

        Organic traffic accounts for 90 percent of my traffic while 10 percent comes in from videos, articles, and random places.

        You mind sending me the link to one of your sites. I want to see if their any reason why adwords would disapprove the ad. you dont have to if you want to keep your niche secret. Id understand.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Do you use some linking from one of your amazon sites to the next? Or are all 40 of your sites standalone and in completely different niches?

    I know i'm asking a lot of questions, but you seem to be answering them so quickly
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Do you use some linking from one of your amazon sites to the next? Or are all 40 of your sites standalone and in completely different niches?

      I know i'm asking a lot of questions, but you seem to be answering them so quickly
      No problem, I don't mind. Don't have dinner plans for a couple hours.

      I do link to a maximum of 3 random sites from each site, as long as they are in the same or similar general category. Obviously I wouldn't link to my vacuum site from my school supplies site - but I might link to my curtains site from my vacuum site, since they are both in the category of home improvement.


      Originally Posted by MrLeaVelle View Post

      You mind sending me the link to one of your sites. I want to see if their any reason why adwords would disapprove the ad. you dont have to if you want to keep your niche secret. Id understand.
      No reason to send a link, Google themselves told me why.

      " As you know, we are deeply committed to providing a high-quality user experience for search results, both organic and paid. To that end, we regularly review sites and landing pages to ensure they adhere to our advertising policies.

      We noticed that one of your URLs was recently flagged as against policy, and as a result we are not displaying ads for that site. Please note that the affected URL will not receive ad traffic and all new ads pointing to this URL will be disapproved.

      The name of the policy is: Bridge page
      More information about this policy, including how to correct problems: http://support.google.com/adwordspol...&answer=190435 "

      What I find most interesting is that AdWords policies consider my site to be unuseful, yet I rank organically just fine.
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      • Profile picture of the author MrLeaVelle
        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        No problem, I don't mind. Don't have dinner plans for a couple hours.

        I do link to a maximum of 3 random sites from each site, as long as they are in the same or similar general category. Obviously I wouldn't link to my vacuum site from my school supplies site - but I might link to my curtains site from my vacuum site, since they are both in the category of home improvement.




        No reason to send a link, Google themselves told me why.

        " As you know, we are deeply committed to providing a high-quality user experience for search results, both organic and paid. To that end, we regularly review sites and landing pages to ensure they adhere to our advertising policies.

        We noticed that one of your URLs was recently flagged as against policy, and as a result we are not displaying ads for that site. Please note that the affected URL will not receive ad traffic and all new ads pointing to this URL will be disapproved.

        The name of the policy is: Bridge page
        More information about this policy, including how to correct problems: Bridge page - Advertising Policies Help "

        What I find most interesting is that AdWords policies consider my site to be unuseful, yet I rank organically just fine.

        Yeah... That same thing happened to me. I just wanted to see, because i wanted to avoid how the site was setup. But i think they just dont like to send traffic to sites that are monetized.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cashondemand
        When building a Amazon Affiliate site Is it necessary to rewrite the product description ? I understand everything else but I'm not sure if this is necessary.
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        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
          Originally Posted by Cashondemand View Post

          When building a Amazon Affiliate site Is it necessary to rewrite the product description ? I understand everything else but I'm not sure if this is necessary.
          At a minimum, yes. However, the most successful affiliates use their own descriptions altogether, leaving the Amazon description out of the mix completely.
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        • Profile picture of the author Ashera
          Originally Posted by Cashondemand View Post

          When building a Amazon Affiliate site Is it necessary to rewrite the product description ? I understand everything else but I'm not sure if this is necessary.
          Yes, I do not copy paste anything directly from the Amazon product page. Everything is completely rewritten.
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            Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

            Yes, I do not copy paste anything directly from the Amazon product page. Everything is completely rewritten.
            How many sites do you have now?
            How much time do you spend on them?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    Yea, that makes sense. Well i'm really hoping to dive pretty deep into amazon and build my portfolio. So far we've been growing at a great rate with adsense. Our strengths have really been in keyword research so i'm thinking that it will all translate well into amazon. Right now were working with magic submitter to build links, and it seems to be doing it's job, but I'm sure that moving towards building some high pr blog networks would really top us off for some serious backlinking juice.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      Yea, that makes sense. Well i'm really hoping to dive pretty deep into amazon and build my portfolio. So far we've been growing at a great rate with adsense. Our strengths have really been in keyword research so i'm thinking that it will all translate well into amazon. Right now were working with magic submitter to build links, and it seems to be doing it's job, but I'm sure that moving towards building some high pr blog networks would really top us off for some serious backlinking juice.
      I do think they do absolute wonders for SEO if done correctly. I know there are some WSO's about building one- find a trusted and reputable Warrior and grab one of them. It's a lot of work, but worth it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lyanna
    Thank you. That tip about Amazon Product in a Post plugin looks real good. I will try it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by Lyanna View Post

      Thank you. That tip about Amazon Product in a Post plugin looks real good. I will try it.
      No problem! If you do use it - make sure to go to options, and once you've filled out all the info put a checkmark next to "Open Product Link in New Window?" and "Use My Custom Styles?:"

      Add these two lines of CSS above all the CSS they have already there.


      td.amazon-used { display: none !important; }

      td.amazon-used-label { display: none !important; }



      It get rids of the "used" pricing option which looks very tacky and confuses buyers in my opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnnyflex
    Thanks Ashera. I think im gonna try amazon again. I used to have a medical sites which has amazon products but unfortunately, the site got slapped from the last 3 panda updates. I agree, amazon is good as i was earning that good before but now i went discourage after google slapped my site. By the way, how many links you do everyday for your sites to get that #1 spot?
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      Originally Posted by johnnyflex View Post

      Thanks Ashera. I think im gonna try amazon again. I used to have a medical sites which has amazon products but unfortunately, the site got slapped from the last 3 panda updates. I agree, amazon is good as i was earning that good before but now i went discourage after google slapped my site. By the way, how many links you do everyday for your sites to get that #1 spot?
      Do it! It's so exciting waking up to see the power of that "cookie." I think maybe 50 percent of the products I receive commission on are products that I've actually reviewed. The rest are just random products from people on my cookie who have clicked my link.

      In regards to backlinks - very few to be honest. The majority of my sites have an average of 100-500 backlinks, but they are 80 percent really high quality. I honestly don't link build for weeks at a time for certain sites because my profile is so strong due to my blog network and manual web 2.0s.
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Do it! It's so exciting waking up to see the power of that "cookie." I think maybe 50 percent of the products I receive commission on are products that I've actually reviewed. The rest are just random products from people on my cookie who have clicked my link.

        In regards to backlinks - very few to be honest. The majority of my sites have an average of 100-500 backlinks, but they are 80 percent really high quality. I honestly don't link build for weeks at a time for certain sites because my profile is so strong due to my blog network and manual web 2.0s.
        By the way, in your blog network, what kind of links you put? is it a sitewide blogroll, or is it just in a post?
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          Originally Posted by johnnyflex View Post

          By the way, in your blog network, what kind of links you put? is it a sitewide blogroll, or is it just in a post?
          Most of them are contextual in posts - all unique content on every site. I talk more about it in some of my previous posts in this thread- I know it's all a lot of posts to go through. I do the occasional blogroll but I never use my main keyword as my anchor if I do.
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          • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
            Ashera, thank you so much for this thread. I also have Amazon sites, but am just up to about $50-$90...per month. I have a long way to go to get to the level I want, which is that much per day. When I get to that point, then hopefully what you are making per day will not seem as out of reach as does a trip to Mars.

            My question at this point is about leaving a footprint and hosting. Do you have a limit as to how many sites you have on one hosting account? Are the sites you have on your personal blog network on different IP addresses? I realize your friend helps you out, but what about the work you do yourself on your own computer?


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              Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

              Ashera, thank you so much for this thread. I also have Amazon sites, but am just up to about $50-$90...per month. I have a long way to go to get to the level I want, which is that much per day. When I get to that point, then hopefully what you are making per day will not seem as out of reach as does a trip to Mars.

              My question at this point is about leaving a footprint and hosting. Do you have a limit as to how many sites you have on one hosting account? Are the sites you have on your personal blog network on different IP addresses? I realize your friend helps you out, but what about the work you do yourself on your own computer?


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              Catherine - just stay at it, and stay motivated. This is over 2 years in the making.

              In regards to your question- I have hosting spread across like 24 different hosting companies, and I think its almost 1 IP per domain. A few of them are on SEO hosting, but it's the higher end $6-8 per IP ones.

              I manage my blog network through a large subscription to to ManageWP - a great resource.

              The html sites I use HMA Pro VPN when uploading files via FTP. I'm very careful.
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    It's a good posting dude. I think you target the right keyword for the amazon. I tried amazon once, and I will try it again after I read this. Keep it up, and wish you all the best !!
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    Congrats ... ! What is ur conversion ratio with Amazon ?
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      Originally Posted by shaunD View Post

      Congrats ... ! What is ur conversion ratio with Amazon ?
      6.31% in the last month - but I get between 600-900 clicks every day.
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    thanks for this report for inspire me about my blog.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    Hey Ashera, nice share!

    I just had some questions about how you set up your sites up.

    Are you just targeting your root domain whether its 1KW or 2-5 KWs? and randomly deep linking for the sake of the link profile?

    You mention you use about 100-500 links per site. When you do actually bump it up to 500, what kind of spread do you use in terms of link types? I would imagine the bulk to be web 2.0, but it still seems pretty steep in terms of costs.

    I'm also curious to know what you took away from your biggest Amazon site failures.

    thanks man
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      Originally Posted by Bryan V View Post

      Hey Ashera, nice share!

      I just had some questions about how you set up your sites up.

      Are you just targeting your root domain whether its 1KW or 2-5 KWs? and randomly deep linking for the sake of the link profile?

      You mention you use about 100-500 links per site. When you do actually bump it up to 500, what kind of spread do you use in terms of link types? I would imagine the bulk to be web 2.0, but it still seems pretty steep in terms of costs.

      I'm also curious to know what you took away from your biggest Amazon site failures.

      thanks man
      Hi Bryan - I do only target the root domain and randomly deep link just for the sake of link profile. I've never really had success in ranking product names, and I'm not the type of person who goes after 10-20 different keywords that each get 20-100 searches - though I know that practice does work.

      When I do bump it up to 500 (which is only on my sites that I've had since the beginning) it's a variety of web 2.0 profiles, manual social bookmarks, manual blog comments, and some guest posting.

      Your last question is a great one. Probably the most important thing I've learned is something I shared about in another post - just because I'm ranking doesn't mean I will have high conversions.

      One of my sites in the beginning was getting something like 75 uniques a day - and only 1-2 clicks to Amazon. Why? My product reviews were boring, dull, and generic.

      Nowadays my secret is this: I do is what I call taking on a "persona". I tell my writer what type of personality to take on.

      For instance on my site that is focused mainly on vacuum cleaners I'm a mom with two kids and a dog. In the product reviews I will say things like "this is great for cleaning up those bowls of cereal and all that pet hair on the couch." or "this vacuum is so quiet I can use it in the same room when my infant is sleeping."

      If I'm selling different types of tools, I would take on the role of a mechanic or something similar. I would say things like "this things great whether the wife wants me to fix our broken sink or if I'm working on my truck."

      Adding personality and a human voice to the site and to the products increases my conversion tenfold.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    You seem to be downplaying (maybe not) the importance of the product reviews. Looks like your homepage has links to each review, then at the bottom there are some images + excerpts for maybe a few of the products only.

    Have you any idea what % converts on the homepage vs. review pages?
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      Originally Posted by Bryan V View Post

      You seem to be downplaying (maybe not) the importance of the product reviews. Looks like your homepage has links to each review, then at the bottom there are some images + excerpts for maybe a few of the products only.

      Have you any idea what % converts on the homepage vs. review pages?
      Missed this post earlier - but looks like I happened to cover product reviews in your other question.

      The home page has at least 6 product reviews (excerpts and images) on it after I have the links to read review - I think this helps my bounce rate stay around 35 percent and avg time on site above 4 minutes for nearly all my sites.

      I really can't tell you the exact amount of percentages of converting on homepage vs review pages - if I were to guess I'd say 25-30 percent homepage - thats just based on a brief glance of my Piwik Analytics for one site.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris-
    I find the same, Amazon affiliate work, if well done, can make more money for the same effort, compared to AdSense. BUT I'd also say that making money with AdSense is a lot easier, for newbies. Writing a really good Amazon product report is not as easy as writing a general article, and in terms of outsourcing good Amazon product reports would cost many times that of general articles which will make money from AdSense.

    So, I'd personally advise a newbie to make some money with AdSense to start with, and learn some things about IM, then move on to Amazon a bit later, as it requires a bit more in terms of keyphrase research, and product report writing etc. Having said that, both approaches are certainly viable for a newbie who's willing to take the time to learn some details.

    So, if you want the quickest and easiest way to get your first income from IM, I'd say AdSense is easiest (see my Sig for details!), and the initial experience of success in IM is a big boost so I'd say get to that initial success and some earnings, as quickly and easily as possible, then go for slightly more involved systems such as Amazon.

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      Originally Posted by Chris- View Post

      I find the same, Amazon affiliate work, if well done, can make more money for the same effort, compared to AdSense. BUT I'd also say that making money with AdSense is a lot easier, for newbies. Writing a really good Amazon product report is not as easy as writing a general article, and in terms of outsourcing good Amazon product reports would cost many times that of general articles which will make money from AdSense.

      So, I'd personally advise a newbie to make some money with AdSense to start with, and learn some things about IM, then move on to Amazon a bit later, as it requires a bit more in terms of keyphrase research, and product report writing etc. Having said that, both approaches are certainly viable for a newbie who's willing to take the time to learn some details.

      So, if you want the quickest and easiest way to get your first income from IM, I'd say AdSense is easiest (see my Sig for details!), and the initial experience of success in IM is a big boost so I'd say get to that initial success and some earnings, as quickly and easily as possible, then go for slightly more involved systems such as Amazon.

      Chris
      Chris you make some good points - but in my opinion I don't see a huge difficulty difference between writing 600 words for an AdSense site (where you'll be researching something and putting it in your own words) or writing a 600 word Amazon Product review (where you'll be researching the Amazon page and other sites to write a product review in your own words).

      That's just my opinion though. I've done both from the start - and before I outsourced my articles I wrote them all myself. I actually found writing compelling Amazon reviews easier than writing a boring 600 word rant on acne or the latest dental fad.
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Hi Ashera,

    This thread has really motivated me and many others - thanks!

    Can I ask how you choose images for your posts? Presumably you don't purchase every item you review, so do you simply use the photos shown on Amazon?

    Also, do you capture email addresses on all your websites? If so, what do you send them? For example, if one of your websites is about nose hair trimming you could send them details of other grooming products, but you would also need to send free info in most of the other emails. Question is, you can't send email after email about nose hair trimming, so would you even bother building a list?
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      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      Hi Ashera,

      This thread has really motivated me and many others - thanks!

      Can I ask how you choose images for your posts? Presumably you don't purchase every item you review, so do you simply use the photos shown on Amazon?

      Also, do you capture email addresses on all your websites? If so, what do you send them? For example, if one of your websites is about nose hair trimming you could send them details of other grooming products, but you would also need to send free info in most of the other emails. Question is, you can't send email after email about nose hair trimming, so would you even bother building a list?
      Thanks Jodie, that's my entire goal. Get people motivated.

      I do tend to take images off Amazon - I'm really not sure the legality of that to be honest but haven't had an issue as of yet.

      I do not do any email marketing or list building on any of my sites - for that exact reason. Plus I don't the opt in rate would be anything above like .01 percent. Why would anyone who's looking to buy a vacuum cleaner want to get a mailing list? I know I wouldn't. What am I gona do, offer them a free ebook on best cleaning methods? Haha, I just don't see a way to make it work, though I'm sure a more creative mind than me could.
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

        Why would anyone who's looking to buy a vacuum cleaner want to get a mailing list? I know I wouldn't. What am I gona do, offer them a free ebook on best cleaning methods?
        This is the very problem I have struggled with (for niche markets) when told that list building is so important. After the first 20 or so emails, what on earth would you send them?
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  • Profile picture of the author pinterest01
    i would like to say congrats for ur success...

    if i may asking you a question, when u join the amazon affiliate program, do u already setup a website with product review or an empty site?

    hopefully you'll share your method here to make some people like me wants to jump into amazon.
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      Originally Posted by pinterest01 View Post

      i would like to say congrats for ur success...

      if i may asking you a question, when u join the amazon affiliate program, do u already setup a website with product review or an empty site?

      hopefully you'll share your method here to make some people like me wants to jump into amazon.
      I had an empty site when I first registered with Amazon Affiliates and built the first one from there.


      Originally Posted by Duy Nguyen View Post

      Max,

      again, I have to say "WOOOOW" You've over-delivered with this thread man! I love the way you reply to people with details and in a fast manner.

      And I see most of the questions I asked you with my previous pm were answered right here One thing I want to ask is about the WP theme you use. It seems like there is no way to adjust the posts on homepage to display just 150-200 words of the original content then I can use the "read more" link to lower my bounce rate like you said in your previous pm.

      Is there any way to go around this? Does "WP Weaver" support that by default (sorry, I haven't tested it yet, just downloaded it a few minutes ago)?

      One more thing is can you share how you structure your product reviews? I want to know it as I usually aim for more than 1k words with my reviews. But I have to write everything myself and to be honest, it's hard and frustrating to write about things I don't like much

      And I really like your idea of documenting this thread into a handy PDF file. Too bad, you intended to give it to war room members only lol

      Duy.
      Hi Duy!

      I'm so glad you find it helpful. I just noticed I had another PM from you that I didn't respond to, it must have gotten marked as read and I never saw it - I will check it in a minute and make sure if I haven't answered anything to respond to it.

      Someone right before this post mentioned- you just use the read more button (which is to the left of the spell check button) and place it after the 150-200 words and it will automatically generate the excerpt on the home page.

      My product reviews are usually structured like this:
      • Intro to the product
      • Description of product
      • Benefits of product
      • Comparison to other products I reviewed or other products in its niche
      • More Features of product
      • Call to action

      If I do write something negative about it it's usually trivial. I'm not a fan of doing pros and cons- plus every product I choose to write about already has at least a 4 star review on Amazon so I let that do the selling for me!


      Originally Posted by retroslice View Post

      Great thread thanks for sharing.

      So you are basically picking keywords with low competition and between 1k-4k exact searches?

      Do you check how many competing pages in google, or any other factors?

      I choose a medium competition keyword for my first amazon site. Now it is a "high" one and with 6k local searches a month.

      It is in bottom of page 2 right now but I am still getting around 5-10 uniques a day with maybe 5-10% clicks to the amazon page (no sales yet).

      I just tried a bunch of amazon products in adwords and it seemed impossible to find low competition ones with 1k+!
      Competing pages in Google means absolutely nothing to me. I've seen keywords with like 300k competing pages with absolutely difficult competition. All that matters to me is how difficult it is to get top 3.

      I've never been able to use AdWords for my Amazon sites as they are all rejected for being bridge pages.

      I personally don't bother with any high competition keywords because of the level of work needed to rank for top 3. With so many sites to take care of I need to be able to rank with the most minimal amount of work possible.
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    Max,

    again, I have to say "WOOOOW" You've over-delivered with this thread man! I love the way you reply to people with details and in a fast manner.

    And I see most of the questions I asked you with my previous pm were answered right here One thing I want to ask is about the WP theme you use. It seems like there is no way to adjust the posts on homepage to display just 150-200 words of the original content then I can use the "read more" link to lower my bounce rate like you said in your previous pm.

    Is there any way to go around this? Does "WP Weaver" support that by default (sorry, I haven't tested it yet, just downloaded it a few minutes ago)?

    One more thing is can you share how you structure your product reviews? I want to know it as I usually aim for more than 1k words with my reviews. But I have to write everything myself and to be honest, it's hard and frustrating to write about things I don't like much

    And I really like your idea of documenting this thread into a handy PDF file. Too bad, you intended to give it to war room members only lol

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  • Profile picture of the author stevo235
    You put a "click here to read more" on each individual product on the homepage and that links directly to amazon from your homepage?
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  • Profile picture of the author retroslice
    Great thread thanks for sharing.

    So you are basically picking keywords with low competition and between 1k-4k exact searches?

    Do you check how many competing pages in google, or any other factors?

    I choose a medium competition keyword for my first amazon site. Now it is a "high" one and with 6k local searches a month.

    It is in bottom of page 2 right now but I am still getting around 5-10 uniques a day with maybe 5-10% clicks to the amazon page (no sales yet).

    I just tried a bunch of amazon products in adwords and it seemed impossible to find low competition ones with 1k+!
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Earlier you mentioned you use some quality wiki's to build backlinks. Do you use any software to post to the wiki's or do you do it manually?

    Also, when you submit to web 2.0's to build a backlink, does the length of the article have a bearing on the amount of link juice you get? For example, would posting an article 800 words in length give you more link juice than submitting a 250 word article.
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      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Earlier you mentioned you use some quality wiki's to build backlinks. Do you use any software to post to the wiki's or do you do it manually?

      Also, when you submit to web 2.0's to build a backlink, does the length of the article have a bearing on the amount of link juice you get? For example, would posting an article 800 words in length give you more link juice than submitting a 250 word article.
      I don't use any software for my tier 1 links. They are done manually, at least nowadays. Some of my older sites I did more automated SEO, but as things change so do I. I usually do 2-3 posts per Web 2.0 of 400-600 words each. At least 1 of them usually has no links at all.


      Originally Posted by alistair View Post

      This is a good thread and thanks for sharing what works for you.

      I have a couple questions to do with seo really.

      I know by what you have said and the image above that you have a buy now button on your posts, but how many links per post on average do you have that point to Amazon and if so are they text links and do you link your images to Amazon as well?

      Also do you cloak your links at all?

      Thanks.
      I have a total of two links that point to Amazon per post. My images are not linked to Amazon but self hosted and when clicked just enlarge using WP-JQuery plugin. The two links are the "Buy now" button and a call to action at the end, like "click to read more", or "find more info here".

      I do not cloak any links.


      Originally Posted by ddwebx View Post

      Sorry to bother you Ashera, But I do have another question. Do you usually get the EMD, let's say the .COM, .NET, .ORG version are already taken, would you go for a .WS or a .INFO or a country version domain? Or get use something close to an EMD ?
      It depends. If the EMD is available I'll take it majority of the time, but I'm not stressed by having them. I never do anything but .com or .net. I don't like ranking .orgs, and would never even consider a .info or a country version - but that's just my opinion


      Originally Posted by Lares View Post

      Well i had to do Sherlock Holmes stuff.

      Hello Sarah!
      Hi, strong detective skills That's a network of a few sites I've built recently that I'm actually testing different methods of SEO on - I'm using a few public blog networks and some more grey hat methods and seeing how they work. Actually decent so far - but I know it won't last.


      Originally Posted by stevo235 View Post

      You put a "click here to read more" on each individual product on the homepage and that links directly to amazon from your homepage?
      The call to action is at the end of the post, show it doesn't show up on the homepage since I have excerpts.


      Originally Posted by Nathan251 View Post

      great work Ashera and thank you for being so open with sharing information

      I have 2 newbie type questions

      1. why do you have so many hosting accounts? you are not doing anything black hat - why not have everything on one host, you'll save a lot of cash and organisational work

      2. would you only recommend amazon affiliate marketing to people residing in the usa because amazon.com is by far the biggest market. If a spanish or german or english or irish person wanted to do amazon affiliate marketing am i correct in saying they would be restricted to amazon.de or amazon.es or amazon.co.uk? Or is it possible for them to direct their traffic to the amazon.com site too even if they are not a resident in the US?
      1. The blog network is on separate hosts in order to increase its value. 50 backlinks from 1 IP is nowhere near as powerful as 50 backlinks from 50 ips.

      2. Don't take my word on this- but from what I understand people in other countries can use Amazon.com affiliates, with a few stipulations on payouts. Theres another guy on here who I think knows a bit more about technicalities of Amazon "Gaz Cooper" or something similar. Might want to find a post by him and send him a PM.
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        Ashera, I saw you mentioned add "persona" in product reviews. I think it is doable to add persona to a few reviews like your example. But when I have 20 product reviews to write, how to add persona to so many reviews? Vistors who read my reviews may think about how can the webmaster review so many vacuum cleaners and it is impossible?
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  • Profile picture of the author alistair
    This is a good thread and thanks for sharing what works for you.

    I have a couple questions to do with seo really.

    I know by what you have said and the image above that you have a buy now button on your posts, but how many links per post on average do you have that point to Amazon and if so are they text links and do you link your images to Amazon as well?

    Also do you cloak your links at all?

    Thanks.
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    Sorry to bother you Ashera, But I do have another question. Do you usually get the EMD, let's say the .COM, .NET, .ORG version are already taken, would you go for a .WS or a .INFO or a country version domain? Or get use something close to an EMD ?
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Ashera,

    1. I was a bit confused about the search volume you're looking for in keyword phrases...did you mean that you look for keyword phrases with no more than 4K searches per month but no less than 1K searches per month?

    2. Are these generic keyword phrases like 'best vacuum cleaners' or something more specific like 'best vacuum cleaners under 200'?

    3. When analyzing the competition I'm still not very clear on what you're looking for in the top 8; low number of backlinks to actual page and/or low quality backlinks to actual page? Bad optimization for keyword phrase? Do you take into consideration domain age, number and quality of backlinks to entire site, and/or PR?

    4. Could you further explain how you interlink pages to reduce your site's bounce rate?

    5. With the 15-30 Web 2.0s you said something about 2 articles each...did you mean that for each of the 15-30 Web 2.0 properties/sites that you post 2 articles for each property/site that points back to 1 of your sites?

    And do you have multiple accounts for each Web 2.0 property/site that you use so as to leave less of a footprint?

    Or do you have a list of a few hundred different Web 2.0 properties and you use a different batch of 15-30 for each new site?

    6. And with your private network did you build it completely from scratch or did you buy domains with PR and/or aged domains? How long did it take to build and/or how much did it cost to build?
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      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Ashera,

      1. I was a bit confused about the search volume you're looking for in keyword phrases...did you mean that you look for keyword phrases with no more than 4K searches per month but no less than 1K searches per month?

      2. Are these generic keyword phrases like 'best vacuum cleaners' or something more specific like 'best vacuum cleaners under 200'?

      3. When analyzing the competition I'm still not very clear on what you're looking for in the top 8; low number of backlinks to actual page and/or low quality backlinks to actual page? Bad optimization for keyword phrase? Do you take into consideration domain age, number and quality of backlinks to entire site, and/or PR?

      4. Could you further explain how you interlink pages to reduce your site's bounce rate?

      5. With the 15-30 Web 2.0s you said something about 2 articles each...did you mean that for each of the 15-30 Web 2.0 properties/sites that you post 2 articles for each property/site that points back to 1 of your sites?

      And do you have multiple accounts for each Web 2.0 property/site that you use so as to leave less of a footprint?

      Or do you have a list of a few hundred different Web 2.0 properties and you use a different batch of 15-30 for each new site?

      6. And with your private network did you build it completely from scratch or did you buy domains with PR and/or aged domains? How long did it take to build and/or how much did it cost to build?
      1. Pretty much , I mean if I find a search with higher volume than 4k and it's low/medium competition by all means I'll go after it - but I haven't found one of them with a high online commercial intent. If I do go after a search with 1k searches per month, I need to know I have at least another keyword with 1k searches as well. Ultimately I won't go after a site unless I have a combined total of keywords that I think I can rank for of 2k searches+ a month.

      2. Usually something more specific, but some are generic - people just never thought to build sites around them.

      3. Everything you said here is what I take into account- your spot on in how I evaluate.

      4. On top of the header is a navigation menu to different categories - sometimes they are just price ranges and other times more specific categories if the site isn't a small niche. Under the header I have a navigation which links to every single post, with a shortened title.

      On the widget I use the same custom menu I did for the one under my header - so all my posts are again listed right there.

      I also, on the homepage, AGAIN manually categorize and link to each individual post with a short description.

      It's a bit overkill, but you have to be absolutely computer deficient to not know how to navigate around my site. My mother who can barely use Google, is able to navigate around it pretty easily.

      Also after each single post I use Ajax Random Posts which gives another 4 posts automatically for people to look at. I seriously have tons of people going through 7-15 pages on a review site, with multiple Amazon clicks per person sometimes.
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    Do you have exact metrics that you look for when analyzing competition, i.e., you don't pursue it if your competition has more than 100 backlinks to the page; if your competitors have tens of thousands of backlinks to the entire domain; is pr4+; the domain is 5+ years; etc?

    Thanks for your response.

    And I get that you may not be comfortable with going into your exact backlinking strategy but any info you could possibly provide in regards to questions #4 and #5 would be appreciated.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Do you have exact metrics that you look for when analyzing competition, i.e., you don't pursue it if your competition has more than 100 backlinks to the page; if your competitors have tens of thousands of backlinks to the entire domain; is pr4+; the domain is 5+ years; etc?

      Thanks for your response.

      And I get that you may not be comfortable with going into your exact backlinking strategy but any info you could possibly provide in regards to questions #4 and #5 would be appreciated.
      There's really no set number of backlinks because it all depends on the quality of them and the quality of their onsite SEO.

      PR means absolutely nothing to me. I have new sites that are PR0 outranking Pr6 pages.

      I may have misunderstood question 4 as I thought I answered it. Are you talking about how I interlink my different sites?

      Totally forgot about question 5 and 6, my bad.

      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Ashera,

      5. With the 15-30 Web 2.0s you said something about 2 articles each...did you mean that for each of the 15-30 Web 2.0 properties/sites that you post 2 articles for each property/site that points back to 1 of your sites?

      And do you have multiple accounts for each Web 2.0 property/site that you use so as to leave less of a footprint?

      Or do you have a list of a few hundred different Web 2.0 properties and you use a different batch of 15-30 for each new site?

      6. And with your private network did you build it completely from scratch or did you buy domains with PR and/or aged domains? How long did it take to build and/or how much did it cost to build?
      5. It's 15-30 different web 2.0 properties that will point to no more than 2 of my sites, with 2+ posts each. 1 of them usually has no link in it. I use about 70 different Web 2.0's. Every property has it's own unique account with its own unique email adress and unique IP using HMA VPN and private proxies.

      6. It consists of probably 35 aged domains with PR and 15 or so of my sites that gained PR that I decided to scratch as money sites since they were performing poorly, I felt the PR and backlinks I had gained were better off used as part of my blog network.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Sorry you did answer my question to question #4 I meant questions #5 and #6 which you just answered.

    Thanks for all the info. This really is a highly and sound and strategic way to make money with Amazon...just very elaborate and takes quite a bit of investment and planning (not a ton I'm sure but you obviously think and plan things out very well).

    Do you keep the sites small or do you ever build any out or have plans of building out your better performing sites?
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      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Sorry you did answer my question to question #4 I meant questions #5 and #6 which you just answered.

      Thanks for all the info. This really is a highly and sound and strategic way to make money with Amazon...just very elaborate and takes quite a bit of investment and planning (not a ton I'm sure but you obviously think and plan things out very well).

      Do you keep the sites small or do you ever build any out or have plans of building out your better performing sites?
      I do want to build some of them to 50 post sites - but the problem is I only write reviews for products 4 stars or over on Amazon. For many of the niches it's hard to find 10-15 products that even fit this category.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Hello Ashera,

    Man, what you're doing here is fantastic, thank you very much for post your strategy and answer all the question...This thread will be huge very soon

    What we have to bear in mind this is not a simple act, as you mentioned you've got over 2 years taking action, everything is planed too.

    Pm me if you can build 1 site for me I will send the keywords

    Regards,
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    • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
      What you have here, Ashera, is a brilliant ebook. This is one of the most inspiring threads. I tire of the usual 'Make $100,000 in 2 days' where there is no proof the person actually knows what they're talking about, just a vague promise and a link in their signature.

      After reading through this thread, I feel I have enough information to get started and many others have asked the questions rattling around in my head!

      I'll certainly be buying your ebook!
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    Just to point out, not all WordPress themes support the read more link with the sticky front page article, pain in the neck...
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      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      Hello Ashera,

      Man, what you're doing here is fantastic, thank you very much for post your strategy and answer all the question...This thread will be huge very soon

      What we have to bear in mind this is not a simple act, as you mentioned you've got over 2 years taking action, everything is planed too.

      Pm me if you can build 1 site for me I will send the keywords

      Regards,
      Thank you - I don't sell or build sites but I provided almost all the tools and info necessary right here in this thread. Best of luck.

      Originally Posted by markowe View Post

      Just to point out, not all WordPress themes support the read more link with the sticky front page article, pain in the neck...
      Very true- but the theme I recommend throughout this thread "Weaver II" works brilliantly with them and is highly customizable.

      Originally Posted by jodiesmitham View Post

      What you have here, Ashera, is a brilliant ebook. This is one of the most inspiring threads. I tire of the usual 'Make $100,000 in 2 days' where there is no proof the person actually knows what they're talking about, just a vague promise and a link in their signature.

      After reading through this thread, I feel I have enough information to get started and many others have asked the questions rattling around in my head!

      I'll certainly be buying your ebook!
      Jodie I really appreciate it. Nothing for sale here and no false promises, just my own experience! I really do want to compile all this info together, but I really need to find the motivation and time to do it so I have no idea when and if that will be.

      Originally Posted by spoiledkid01 View Post

      I asked you earlier that did you do review sites for amazon?
      And how many sites do you have?
      How many posts/reviews those sites have?
      Hi I answered all these questions within the thread, the OP covers your first question - and I do 8-20 reviews for each site.
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    I asked you earlier that did you do review sites for amazon?
    And how many sites do you have?
    How many posts/reviews those sites have?
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  • Profile picture of the author spen
    Hi Ashera,
    shall i ask a question?
    I research a keyword using Market Samurai follow. top 10 are big sites like amazon. Their SEO on page are bad, but they have a lot of backlinks. Can i rank over them easily?
    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author AndyPandy
    Hi Ashera,

    Thanks a lot for sharing all this info. I've never had any success with amazon, but I might just give it a go again after reading this thread

    What sort of on-site SEO do you do?

    Thanks,
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    Whats kind of your site?
    A reviews site or a news site ?
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  • Profile picture of the author lossman29
    Amazon was always better than adsense hands down. For the same amount of traffic, the revenue you potentially get is much higher. This is a no brainer really
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  • Profile picture of the author SeFi
    Really interesting thread, I also have an amazon website but in France, ~30 visits a day but no conversions...

    Were you hit by Pinguin man ?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by SeFi View Post

      Really interesting thread, I also have an amazon website but in France, ~30 visits a day but no conversions...

      Were you hit by Pinguin man ?
      I was not thank goodness.


      Originally Posted by markviduk86 View Post

      Whats kind of your site?
      A reviews site or a news site ?
      All reviews.


      Originally Posted by spen View Post

      Hi Ashera,
      shall i ask a question?
      I research a keyword using Market Samurai follow. top 10 are big sites like amazon. Their SEO on page are bad, but they have a lot of backlinks. Can i rank over them easily?
      thanks
      I can't see the picture, it's not working. I'd have to actually see the keyword to know.


      Originally Posted by AndyPandy View Post

      Hi Ashera,

      Thanks a lot for sharing all this info. I've never had any success with amazon, but I might just give it a go again after reading this thread

      What sort of on-site SEO do you do?

      Thanks,
      Just the standard: H1 tag and H2 tags, well structured pages, solid interlinking, decent use of keyword density, good text/html ratio.


      Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

      Ashera, in post# 144 of this thread, you list different sections you use in structuring your product reviews, beginning with "intro to the product."

      Do you actually have these as sections set out with bolded titles with h tags, or does the information just flow in one article with just regular paragraphs?

      Catherine
      I normally just do it in paragraphs. Sometimes I will bold "Product Features" or some other part on certain sites- but for some niches it wouldn't make sense.


      Originally Posted by lossman29 View Post

      Amazon was always better than adsense hands down. For the same amount of traffic, the revenue you potentially get is much higher. This is a no brainer really
      That's the main point I'm trying to get across. Obviously some keywords won't work for Amazon ~ but if you find a good one 60 unique visitors a day can easily make you $15-$30 a day -whereas its rare that the same amount of visitors could make that via the majority of AdSense sites.
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        Originally Posted by Ashera View Post



        I can't see the picture, it's not working. I'd have to actually see the keyword to know.

        Hi Ashera,
        I had already sent PM to you the keyword.
        Do you receive it?
        thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Troyman
    Pretty cool. I've totally done the opposite and made pretty decent income from adsense. Def' looking to switching things up and amazon seems to be something I should consider.
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      Ashera, in post# 144 of this thread, you list different sections you use in structuring your product reviews, beginning with "intro to the product."

      Do you actually have these as sections set out with bolded titles with h tags, or does the information just flow in one article with just regular paragraphs?

      Catherine
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  • Profile picture of the author Wieli
    Hey Ashera great post,

    I thought i read it here earlier today, but i cant find the post. How do you build up your page with keywords.

    Do you pick 1 and only rank for that, or do you try to rank every review with a keyword?
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    Great post. And WOW, Corona Del Mar?! Sheesh! Can I hang out with you? Hahahaha. You must live in a mansion .
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      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Great post. And WOW, Corona Del Mar?! Sheesh! Can I hang out with you? Hahahaha. You must live in a mansion .
      I love CDM - no mansion yet, but working towards it.

      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      How do you schedule your content/reviews?

      Do you post them all together?

      Regards,
      I don't. Once I buy a domain I usually post 1 review to get the site indexed- then drop feed them over a month or two - then add a new review every month or two to get it as fresh in the eyes of Google.
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    How do you schedule your content/reviews?

    Do you post them all together?

    Regards,
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    SO happy to see this! I know adsense can treat their publishers pretty bad and Amazon is actually very helpful when you go and ask them questions that may be on your mind.

    Great to see you making some bank with them!

    -Omar
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    • Profile picture of the author adamcm
      Thank you for the great thread!

      Question on your blog network. You mentioned that you get links from sites that are relevant to your niche. But i'm curious how you found PR2+ blogs on vacuum cleaners (for example) to add to your network? For instance if I wanted to create my own network is it ok to pick up random Pr domains and place content related to my niche on them instead?
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      • Profile picture of the author Ashera
        Originally Posted by adamcm View Post

        Thank you for the great thread!

        Question on your blog network. You mentioned that you get links from sites that are relevant to your niche. But i'm curious how you found PR2+ blogs on vacuum cleaners (for example) to add to your network? For instance if I wanted to create my own network is it ok to pick up random Pr domains and place content related to my niche on them instead?
        Some of them were sites I had built that I decided to scratch since they weren't making money and had gained PR - others I just picked up aged and with PR already. I don't think if my site is about vacuums I need it to have "vacuum cleaner" in the domain. As long as the domain isn't like about something completely random then I think it's totally fine. You see a lot of expiring domains with legitimate PR with peoples names or names of old businesses that are pretty generic - for all Google knows it's just a blogger who likes to talk about cleaning their house.

        Originally Posted by John34 View Post

        You mentioned that you have around 53 sites in your blog network, i wanted to know if these are niche specific or these blog network sites have content from different niches?
        I keep them categorized - I won't post about vacuums on an electronics one.


        Originally Posted by Dumkist View Post

        Would you mind sharing how you check your keyword competition ?
        I go into detail about it somewhere within this post, just scour around
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    Would you mind sharing how you check your keyword competition ?
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  • Profile picture of the author markviduk86
    How many posts per site?
    And how many post for a site per week?
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    You mentioned that you have around 53 sites in your blog network, i wanted to know if these are niche specific or these blog network sites have content from different niches?
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  • Profile picture of the author TechGeek
    Instead of earning the 5% commission by being an affiliate of Amazon, have you ever consider to create your own product such as ebook and sell it at Amazon? I bet you will earn more than being an affiliate, even though I've not created my own product before, just wondering.
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      Originally Posted by TechGeek View Post

      Instead of earning the 5% commission by being an affiliate of Amazon, have you ever consider to create your own product such as ebook and sell it at Amazon? I bet you will earn more than being an affiliate, even though I've not created my own product before, just wondering.
      I get between 7.5%-8% commission due to performance structure and how many items I sell (makes a huge difference). I haven't considered this cause I have no idea what I'd write about and how I would market it.
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  • Profile picture of the author jodiesmitham
    Hi Ashera,

    You mentioned the structure of your reviews i.e. intro, description, benefits etc. Do you use a table of features for all the reviewed products for each review post? Have you found that bullet points work better than paragraphs of text on the review posts?

    Thanks.

    Jodie
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  • Profile picture of the author coldshot
    Hi Ashera

    Great info for us peeps who are still struggling to make some dough from Amazon.

    Do we need to let Amazo know all the sites we are using our aff links on?

    Do you also use any Amazon Link localizer?

    Tks!
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  • Profile picture of the author derprinz
    Congratulations bro, that's really inspiring
    What's the minimum price you start with please ?
    and what about the Penguin, your sites passed it ?
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      Originally Posted by derprinz View Post

      Congratulations bro, that's really inspiring
      What's the minimum price you start with please ?
      I am also curious about this.
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        Originally Posted by sarasayshi View Post

        I am also curious about this.
        I normally don't write a review for anything under $35.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    1. The blog network is on separate hosts in order to increase its value. 50 backlinks from 1 IP is nowhere near as powerful as 50 backlinks from 50 ips.
    You said earlier that hosting costs you around $300/month. Would using SEO hosting which uses seperate C-class IP addresses be as powerful or do you need a seperate hosting account entirely for each domain in your blog network?

    The price is around $200/month for 50 C-class IP's although its still $100/month cheaper which is quite a lot. http://www.seohost.com/dedicated-c-class-ip-hosting.html
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    what products do you sell?
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  • Profile picture of the author amarketing
    Wow, this is such a great, informative thread. Thanks a lot for responding to everyone's questions. There are some people who will post about their success and then will abandon the thread (can't say as I can blame them too much since it does take a lot of time). Your dedication is really appreciated.

    Could you help me to understand something better? I know you covered keywords, but I read the posts and for some reason am still unclear.

    You posted:
    I personally don't ever try to rank for specific product keywords, as I've had little success with them. But keywords like "best x for y" "x reviews" "x for y". Even if the top 10 are all aged authority sites - if the BLP (back links to page) is weak then I go for it.
    What do the "x" and "y" represent?

    Are you trying to target keywords that are only product categories (i.e. "best coffee maker reviews)", or will you also go after "Bunn coffee maker reviews." Also, will you use specific brand names and/or models in your posts/reviews, or are those generic as well?

    Sorry if I'm making you explain something that you've already said, by maybe if you could give some specific examples of targeted keywords/post titles I could better understand what you're talking about. Obviously I'm not asking for ones you are using, but maybe you could use a keyword that you passed up ranking for or that's in a niche you don't compete in as an example?

    Thank you so much for the inspiration and education!
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    WOOOOOW! Yeah Man you're doing a really great job here. This thread here worth more than anything else. AWESOME n Thank you!!

    I am now working on amazon review site, and the info here are really useful. Can I send you a PM if I have any questions about amazon?
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    Guys, taking a few days off from this thread, and WF. Lost a little feline member of my family last night and it's taking a toll.

    I'll answer all questions when I come back to the internet.
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      Sorry to hear that, Ashera...
      We all respect your privacy in this hard time.


      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      Guys, taking a few days off from this thread, and WF. Lost a little feline member of my family last night and it's taking a toll.

      I'll answer all questions when I come back to the internet.
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        Sorry to hear that
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    Sorry to hear that
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    Insanely good thread! Took me 3 days to go all through this
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    great story, keep up the good work, but still adsense over amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author EdKirby
    I just read the entire thread, great stuff! I did Amazon aff. stuff a few years ago then my state in their infinite wisdom decided to mess with Amazon and I lost my affiliate status. But after reading this thread I may be setting up shop across the state line and give this a go again.

    Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author phans
      reall great thread!
      actually adsense and amazon work both great for me!

      my first amazon website is kinda funny i just bought an domain and made a 1000 wod review with pictures and everything and made really nearly no backlinking... for a couple weeks i just let the website go and than take a look at my amazon sales and was quite suprised! the site makes like 50-60$ last month with only ranking for oney keyword that has a couple hundred searches per month... but if you make reviews of like 1000 words and like you said make the review personal people really love it, read it and click on the amazon links! you are also getting a lot long tail traffic btw

      i am looking forward to scale it up big time!


      just one question:
      while building more and more sites... as much as i am concern your are only allowed to use 100 photos form amazon products per account (if you work via api i think 300)
      what will you do when you reach this limit? this is something i don't really have an answer for yet
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by phans View Post

        just one question:
        while building more and more sites... as much as i am concern your are only allowed to use 100 photos form amazon products per account (if you work via api i think 300)
        what will you do when you reach this limit? this is something i don't really have an answer for yet
        Where did you hear you can only use 100 photos per account? Are you getting confused with tracking IDs? It's tracking IDs that are limited to 100.
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          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          Are you getting confused with tracking IDs? It's tracking IDs that are limited to 100.
          That sounds more like it.. you can request to get those increased too.
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    WOW !!!!!!!!!!! this is great !!!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author star007
    Ashera,
    thank you for your comments. I am just beginning to build my blog network and had thought of course to put adsense on them. I think, after reading some of the comments, that I will focus on amazon affiliate products instead...it seems to be one of the best ways to get the most bang for my productive buck!
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    Where does you traffic come from and how exactly do you run the amazon sites? Are they like just product reviews with your affiliate link or what?
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    Ashera,

    Congratz for your success!

    Persistence is the key to success in the online business.
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    Sorry I have not been answering questions- kind of strayed away from WF for the last few weeks and have been working hard building new sites and ranking some of my other ones.

    Todays results of my hard work and dedication over the last few years:

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    How many visitor visit your the website is giving you the most profit ? and the local searches per month is how many ?
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  • Profile picture of the author John BR
    Just looking at the screenshot before reading anything itself is jaw dropping enough for me. What an inspiration for everyone! Hard work does indeed pay off in the end. I guess not just working hard but working smartly is the need of the marketing times now.

    Great stuff. All the best!
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  • Profile picture of the author the_viking
    Thanks for a great thread, Ashera. I have a question about you private blog network. I have just started building my own network of blogspot.com, weebly.com and wordpress.com blogs. Do you build several links to your money site from each blog? For example, every fifth post you create a link to your money site and a link to an authority site.
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    this great, its motivation for me. Thank for suggestion.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    I completely agree that Amazon is way better than Adsense - at least now that I've read this post.

    I just built a hybrid website, which isn't ranked yet, but I got some referral traffic from a site in my target market. 240 visits, 1 adsense click for .54. I got 22 clicks on my Amazon links, with just one sale. That one sale was 3 times the commission than the one adsense click.

    Small sample size, yes...but I have found my amazon links are highly targeted whereas Adsense can barely display the right ads to my target market.

    Great post Ashera and inspiring to those of us just starting to play with Amazon/Adsense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Blue445nm
    I wanted to ask this -

    Have you tried combining adsense and amazon?

    Does your sales go down on amazon if you combine 1 ad of adsense on the page or does it stay the same for you?

    If it stays the same I would consider placing both on mine.
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    • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
      Originally Posted by Blue445nm View Post

      I wanted to ask this -

      Have you tried combining adsense and amazon?

      Does your sales go down on amazon if you combine 1 ad of adsense on the page or does it stay the same for you?

      If it stays the same I would consider placing both on mine.
      I think that was the entire point...his profit ROSE after he got rid of Adsense altogether.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Ashera,

    What do you average per day and/or month if you don't mind sharing? Looks like you're having big days but is that the norm?

    And are you building a list and getting repeat visitors to your sites?
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      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Ashera,

      What do you average per day and/or month if you don't mind sharing? Looks like you're having big days but is that the norm?

      And are you building a list and getting repeat visitors to your sites?
      Monthly payout is about 20k now, probably average around $650 a day. Some worse days and some better days. I notice on Sundays I often have my best days, but randomly some sites will rank for a ton of long tails and bring me in a huge influx of traffic.

      I do see some returning visitors - I don't build lists as I don't see a point to it for my particular niches.

      Another interesting note - I rarely see more than 3 items returned each month because all the products on all my sites I have done deep investigation into to make sure they are quality, reliable, and well reviewed by previous buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Asheera,

    Had a chance to go back through your thread again and had a few more questions (overlooked a few key points the first 1 or 2 go around):

    1. I know you stated in your OP that you got between 40-150 unique visitors per day and in a post that after 50 clicks on your Amazon links you get 2-6 sales, if you don't mind answering what's your click through rate for your Amazon links?

    It's got to be pretty high on 40-150 visitors per day and it sounds like your conversion rate is anywhere from 2% upward to 12%.

    2. When you're "taking on a persona" do you go as far as to include an 'About Me' page or little blurb in the sidebar including picture or you don't go that far when creating a persona?

    3. You stated that your rankings are mostly due to your own private blog network, for someone just starting creating their own private network and who doesn't have a lot of money what would you recommend they do?

    And is it important that the sites in the network have age and PR or can you still see pretty decent results with sites in a network that are fairly new and have no PR (just yet)? Or is the key that your network already has aged domains with PR?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ashera
      Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

      Asheera,

      Had a chance to go back through your thread again and had a few more questions (overlooked a few key points the first 1 or 2 go around):

      1. I know you stated in your OP that you got between 40-150 unique visitors per day and in a post that after 50 clicks on your Amazon links you get 2-6 sales, if you don't mind answering what's your click through rate for your Amazon links?

      It's got to be pretty high on 40-150 visitors per day and it sounds like your conversion rate is anywhere from 2% upward to 12%.

      2. When you're "taking on a persona" do you go as far as to include an 'About Me' page or little blurb in the sidebar including picture or you don't go that far when creating a persona?

      3. You stated that your rankings are mostly due to your own private blog network, for someone just starting creating their own private network and who doesn't have a lot of money what would you recommend they do?

      And is it important that the sites in the network have age and PR or can you still see pretty decent results with sites in a network that are fairly new and have no PR (just yet)? Or is the key that your network already has aged domains with PR?
      1. CTR is 8-9%

      2. I usually do a sidebar "About me" with a stock photo that I am licensed to use, but looks legit.

      3. I started out ranking without it - so it can be done, just takes longer and is more difficult, it's just something I've built over time after reinvesting profits. Age is important but PR updates are so frequent (every 3-4 months) that it's not a big deal. Patience has been key for me, but a good variety is helpful.

      Originally Posted by jwmann2 View Post

      I have had little success with Amazon but then again I don't own nearly as many websites as you do. How did you accumulate so many? Do you have your Amazon deposited directly into your bank account or do you receive monthly checks?
      Directly into bank account.

      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Ashera,

      When you place links to your sites on your web 2.0 articles and articles on your blog network, how much do you vary the anchor text? Do you aim for a specific ratio of using generic keywords and keywords you intend to rank for? You said you didn't get hit by Penguin, so I guess your anchor text must be pretty diverse.
      It's INCREDIBLY diverse. Honestly probably only 15-20 percent of my anchor texts are my main targeted keywords, 20 percent are a few other ones that I use consistently, and 60 percent are all over the place.

      Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

      Hello Ashera,

      The post plugin you use "amazon product in a post" automatically updates the product price or you've got to do something else to make sure the post always show/link to the right price???

      Regards,
      It automatically updates - it's great.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Ashera,

    When you place links to your sites on your web 2.0 articles and articles on your blog network, how much do you vary the anchor text? Do you aim for a specific ratio of using generic keywords and keywords you intend to rank for? You said you didn't get hit by Penguin, so I guess your anchor text must be pretty diverse.
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  • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
    Hello Ashera,

    The post plugin you use "amazon product in a post" automatically updates the product price or you've got to do something else to make sure the post always show/link to the right price???

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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    Hi Ashera

    First of congratulations on the hard work and dedication you have put in to achieve your success. Good things come to those that work, not wait!

    My question today is about building up a network of web2.0 vs a private blog network. Ok as I understand a private blog network is a network of blog websites you own all relevent to one niche. Each one of these blogs ideally has a good page rank established and a good backlink profile. From my understanding though you can't simply use a reseller hosting package as all your sites have the same ip and google can see your network and penalise all your sites. So you have to buy a hosting package for each site from different hosting providers ideally and this in turns work out quite expensive.

    My question is can't the same be achieved for free using web 2.0 sites and if it can't why can't it? They are free to setup and all have there own ips. I can't see why you can't build them up to have page authority. I'm sure there is a reason this is less powerful then a private blog network otherwise you would not got to the hassle of setting one up but at this point im not aware of it.

    I look forward to your response
    Thank you in advance
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    • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
      Just curious how your income took such a jump in 2 weeks when you posted here that you were only making $700 a month from amazon?
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

        Just curious how your income took such a jump in 2 weeks when you posted here that you were only making $700 a month from amazon?
        Uh-oh. Yeah, these two posts really don't jive.
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        • Profile picture of the author markowe
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Uh-oh. Yeah, these two posts really don't jive.
          You missed the edit to the OP:

          edit: May17th 2012 - I have around 40 strictly Amazon Sites now, I removed AdSense on all of them, started ranking some of my newer ones, and here are the results from today.
          So, he took all the Adsense off and Amazon sales went up, makes sense to me.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
            I saw that but on april 4th he posted that he was only making 700 a month from adsense and amazon then 2 weeks later he posted a screenshot from april 24th showing just under 400 a day, just seemed like a huge jump all of a sudden in 20 days to me, that's all...
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            • Profile picture of the author markowe
              Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

              I saw that but on april 4th he posted that he was only making 700 a month from adsense and amazon then 2 weeks later he posted a screenshot from april 24th showing just under 400 a day, just seemed like a huge jump all of a sudden in 20 days to me, that's all...
              Ah, I'm with you - well, I am sure OP can comment. And no, "I explain how in my WSO" won't count
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by markowe View Post

            You missed the edit to the OP:



            So, he took all the Adsense off and Amazon sales went up, makes sense to me.
            I don't know how you think it makes sense. $700/month is only about $23/day which is massive difference between $650/day. How can replacing Adsense make a $625/day increase unless you also had a huge increase in traffic, which isn't plausible to generate in such a short time considering that 90% of his traffic comes via SEO.
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            • Profile picture of the author markowe
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              I don't know how you think it makes sense. $700/month is only about $23/day which is massive difference between $650/day. How can replacing Adsense make a $625/day increase unless you also had a huge increase in traffic, which isn't plausible to generate in such a short time considering that 90% of his traffic comes via SEO.
              No, I get it now, I missed that other post. Let's see what OP says, shall we?
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          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          Uh-oh. Yeah, these two posts really don't jive.
          Something else that doesn't jive.....he says he gets 40-150 visitors a day to a site, but only has an 8-9% ctr. That means on sites getting 100 visitors per day, 8 of them are clicking through to Amazon. Those 8 people must be buying a hell of a lot of stuff, lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
            Yet here he claims he has been doing this for 18 months?
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          • Profile picture of the author xiro25
            Originally Posted by Black Hat Cat View Post

            Something else that doesn't jive.....he says he gets 40-150 visitors a day to a site, but only has an 8-9% ctr. That means on sites getting 100 visitors per day, 8 of them are clicking through to Amazon. Those 8 people must be buying a hell of a lot of stuff, lol.
            He does sell some 300 dollar vaccumms. So at 100 visitors a day at 8 percent CTR to amazon that would 8 visitors but not everyone will buy something usually it has 15 percent conversion rate, could be higher though. But at 300 dollar vaccum that site could be making anywher from 15 to 50 dollars a day.
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        Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

        Just curious how your income took such a jump in 2 weeks when you posted here that you were only making $700 a month from amazon?
        With make-believe, anything is possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Will Leighton
    Sounds like you've cracked it, nice work mate.

    Is there a particular theme or layout you find converting well?

    Are your sites typical product review sites or more authoritive and informative sites that include reviews and products in them?

    And last question...you ever go for exact match domains? Or more general domains relating to the keyword/s?

    Sorry if any of this has already been asked.
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    I can't wait to see your report. I have been following this thread!
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    This kind of stuff is ruining Warrior Forum. I've seen it multiple times now in the last month or two. Seems to be happening more and more frequently. You know, a person comes on, makes huge claims (maybe not so huge), then makes a reference to an upcoming WSO or "report" or "PDF" and then gets exposed.

    I hope that's not the case here but I'm afraid there may be no other explanation. There is nothing that anyone can say to me (at least) that would convince me that a jump from $700/month to $700/day is feasible in three weeks.

    This is why I have resisted calls to do my own Amazon WSO and just opted to do my own series of low-cost tutorials instead. I'm not sure I want to be associated with the MMO WSO game. It's becoming VERY seedy.
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    • Profile picture of the author markowe
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      This kind of stuff is ruining Warrior Forum. I've seen it multiple times now in the last month or two. Seems to be happening more and more frequently. You know, a person comes on, makes huge claims (maybe not so huge), then makes a reference to an upcoming WSO or "report" or "PDF" and then gets exposed.

      I hope that's not the case here but I'm afraid there may be no other explanation. There is nothing that anyone can say to me (at least) that would convince me that a jump from $700/month to $700/day is feasible in three weeks.

      This is why I have resisted calls to do my own Amazon WSO and just opted to do my own series of low-cost tutorials instead. I'm not sure I want to be associated with the MMO WSO game. It's becoming VERY seedy.
      "That" kind of stuff (I won't say "this", I am not saying that's the case here) has been a regular fixture around here for a long time Sometimes people get away with it, sometimes they don't!

      About WSOs, ha, I wrote a big guide about how I create and rank authority sites with not much effort, and then thought, "Why should I sell this info when it will make me much more money in the long-term if I keep it to myself"
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      This kind of stuff is ruining Warrior Forum. I've seen it multiple times now in the last month or two. Seems to be happening more and more frequently. You know, a person comes on, makes huge claims (maybe not so huge), then makes a reference to an upcoming WSO or "report" or "PDF" and then gets exposed.

      I hope that's not the case here but I'm afraid there may be no other explanation. There is nothing that anyone can say to me (at least) that would convince me that a jump from $700/month to $700/day is feasible in three weeks.

      This is why I have resisted calls to do my own Amazon WSO and just opted to do my own series of low-cost tutorials instead. I'm not sure I want to be associated with the MMO WSO game. It's becoming VERY seedy.
      Ashera's posts in this thread have been very helpful and detailed, but that does sound odd that he went from $700/month on 4th April to about $20k/month less than two months later especially when he said earlier in this thread that this has been 2 years in the making.

      Posted 4/4

      Originally Posted by Ashera

      AWESOME!!! I'm at about $700 a month via Amazon and Adsense and this inspires me.
      Posted 18/5

      Originally Posted by Ashera

      Monthly payout is about 20k now, probably average around $650 a day. Some worse days and some better days. I notice on Sundays I often have my best days, but randomly some sites will rank for a ton of long tails and bring me in a huge influx of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    That's the problem though. If this thread is indeed BS, how much of the "helpful" info can be deemed trustworthy or legit?
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  • Profile picture of the author ihasdiggs
    Thanks for the inspiration but I never earn any bucks from the Amazon and hence remove from the website, will you please teach how it's possible to generates money from amazon
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  • Profile picture of the author romeovic
    this is really encouraging....
    thanks for sharing this
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  • Profile picture of the author Lukas
    the 15 to 30 web 2.0s is a method many use. His 50+ blog network seems to be the difference.

    My question is: a unique email for each property?
    So 15 to 30 web2.0s that focus on 5mm widgets get 1 email address like (5mm at geemale) or 15 to 30 separate email addresses 1a,2a,3a,4a.... at geemale?
    I think footprint from algo can figure it out..so it is better to use Yahoo accts in this case or what do you recommend?

    Also, I hope the integrity of the OP money claim is still true since my Amazon ha to ramp up from loss in AS.
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    • Profile picture of the author xiro25
      yeah Interesting. The Op stated that he made 400 dollars on april 24th in one day and in one month doubled that to about 700 dollars in one day. Something seems off about this.

      I am interested to see how Ashera responds to these claims.
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  • Profile picture of the author Builder154
    Did Ashera say he made $700 or whatever it is per day regularly? Or did he just say he got a nice burst one day and made that and was saying he likes Amazon because you can get those lucky days now and then?
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    • Profile picture of the author xiro25
      Originally Posted by Builder154 View Post

      Did Ashera say he made $700 or whatever it is per day regularly? Or did he just say he got a nice burst one day and made that and was saying he likes Amazon because you can get those lucky days now and then?

      He says he average around 650/day. when a month ago he made around 100 day. Not saying that it is impossible but those claims seem a little absurd.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Just glanced through some of this - I have absolutely nothing to gain about making up ridiculous claims. I said if I ever created a WSO I would release it free to War Room Members... I added Amazon to a lot of my sites that had strictly Adsense in early or mid April and the numbers absolutely skyrocketed.



    Believe me or don't believe me, it doesn't effect me. I'm not here to to "take" anything from WF and I don't ever intend to sell anything on here related to Amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    i dont think he is lieing. i think people see his success and feel insecure because they aren't on his level so start pointing the figure going nah i dont believe it its not realistic.

    Well before the plane was invented was it realistic that a chunk of metal could fly someone over the atlantic? Ashera ill repeat my question i think you missed it with all these negative ppl spaming your post

    Hi Ashera

    First of congratulations on the hard work and dedication you have put in to achieve your success. Good things come to those that work, not wait!

    My question today is about building up a network of web2.0 vs a private blog network. Ok as I understand a private blog network is a network of blog websites you own all relevent to one niche. Each one of these blogs ideally has a good page rank established and a good backlink profile. From my understanding though you can't simply use a reseller hosting package as all your sites have the same ip and google can see your network and penalise all your sites. So you have to buy a hosting package for each site from different hosting providers ideally and this in turns work out quite expensive.

    My question is can't the same be achieved for free using web 2.0 sites and if it can't why can't it? They are free to setup and all have there own ips. I can't see why you can't build them up to have page authority. I'm sure there is a reason this is less powerful then a private blog network otherwise you would not got to the hassle of setting one up but at this point im not aware of it.

    I look forward to your response
    Thank you in advance
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by codecreative View Post

      i dont think he is lieing. i think people see his success and feel insecure because they aren't on his level so start pointing the figure going nah i dont believe it its not realistic.
      Hey man, I am one of the skeptics. If you want to take what some random guy on a message forum says on his word, that's your prerogative. If you want to believe that it's probable that someone went from $700/month to $700/day in a month's time without even questioning anything (despite reading some of the facts as posted by others), that's also your prerogative.

      It is asinine to say people feel insecure just because they are not as trusting as you are and are smart enough to question inconsistencies. I am very successful with Amazon and have a high paying "day job" that I absolutely love so what have I got to feel "insecure about"?

      That said, I appreciate Ashera's willingness to respond to the questioning in a civil fashion. He was also kind enough to answer a PM or two from me.

      There is nothing wrong with people questioning inconsistencies (real or perceived). If more people did that, there would be fewer "Make $3,000,000 by tomorrow morning by pressing this button!" WSOs.

      Thank you Ashera for answering your skeptics.
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      • Profile picture of the author codecreative
        Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

        Hey man, I am one of the skeptics. If you want to take what some random guy on a message forum says on his word, that's your prerogative. If you want to believe that it's probable that someone went from $700/month to $700/day in a month's time without even questioning anything (despite reading some of the facts as posted by others), that's also your prerogative.

        It is asinine to say people feel insecure just because they are not as trusting as you are and are smart enough to question inconsistencies. I am very successful with Amazon and have a high paying "day job" that I absolutely love so what have I got to feel "insecure about"?

        That said, I appreciate Ashera's willingness to respond to the questioning in a civil fashion. He was also kind enough to answer a PM or two from me.

        There is nothing wrong with people questioning inconsistencies (real or perceived). If more people did that, there would be fewer "Make $3,000,000 by tomorrow morning by pressing this button!" WSOs.

        Thank you Ashera for answering your skeptics.
        It was my intention to contribute civilised response apologies if it didn't come across in that way. I am an optimistic type of person and like to believe in individuals successes as it gives me motivation to believe it is possible. I can understand why people are sceptical as Asheras earnings are vast. In general though when people mention there successes I have noticed there is always a band of skeptics that ridicule them. I'm not saying your one and if you have experience working with amazon as an affiliate I'm sure your points are well validated.

        When looking at Asheras posts in the forum he seems to contribute knowledgeable posts and he has stated several times in this thread he has no commercial intent with regards to a wso and any pdf he would release would be free. At this point I can't see his motive for wanting to fabricate everything and he has gone into a fine degree of detail with his posts and responses. I suppose no one can ever know 100% for sure either way.
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      • Profile picture of the author Ladyboss1
        Codecreative, since I'm the one that started the controversy let me respond, I didn't accuse him of anything, just asked a question out of curiosity due to some of his other posts he had made previously where things didn't add up to me..

        For you to assume that some of us who may have doubted Ashera, are insecure because we are not on his level, is very narrow minded. I have been in IM since 1998 fulltime, and make a very good living online, and support 3 kids as a single parent doing so.

        My main concerns were, he only registered on this forum of December of last year, then here he has posted on April 4th that he was only making 700 a month from Amazon and adsense.

        April 6th he posted here that he has paying SEO client and 40 domains that make between 3 to 40 a day, that still doesn't add up to the affiliate income he claimed..
        April 7 he posted here that he has been building affiliate sites for 3 years and revealed one of his niches, so from the first post to the last one the income didnt make sense from only making $700 to???.. The facts were all over the place..
        I didn't accuse him of anything just asked a curious question...

        For what it's worth I am tired of people making false claims on here and other forums, it just makes the who IM game seem shady when it really isn't.. Its a great way to make money and give you the lifestyle you want if you are willing to work for it.. Too many people scam those who can least afford it, I know Ashera wasn't marketing anything yet, just the facts didn't add up..
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          Originally Posted by Ladyboss1 View Post

          Codecreative, since I'm the one that started the controversy let me respond, I didn't accuse him of anything, just asked a question out of curiosity due to some of his other posts he had made previously where things didn't add up to me..

          For you to assume that some of us who may have doubted Ashera, are insecure because we are not on his level, is very narrow minded. I have been in IM since 1998 fulltime, and make a very good living online, and support 3 kids as a single parent doing so.

          My main concerns were, he only registered on this forum of December of last year, then here he has posted on April 4th that he was only making 700 a month from Amazon and adsense.

          April 6th he posted here that he has paying SEO client and 40 domains that make between 3 to 40 a day, that still doesn't add up to the affiliate income he claimed..
          April 7 he posted here that he has been building affiliate sites for 3 years and revealed one of his niches, so from the first post to the last one the income didnt make sense from only making $700 to???.. The facts were all over the place..
          I didn't accuse him of anything just asked a curious question...

          For what it's worth I am tired of people making false claims on here and other forums, it just makes the who IM game seem shady when it really isn't.. Its a great way to make money and give you the lifestyle you want if you are willing to work for it.. Too many people scam those who can least afford it, I know Ashera wasn't marketing anything yet, just the facts didn't add up..
          So april 4th he was making $700/month and april 6th he makes a minimum of $3600,-/month ($3/day *40 sites = $120 * 30 days = $3600,-). And a month later he makes $21.000/month (30 days * $700,-)

          Quiet impressive, especially considering he ranked top 3 for most of his kw's already. Must be one heck of an SEO'er to have driven all kw's up in the top 3 and a ton more kw's to make such huge increase in income
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          Originally Posted by Ladyboss1