Google is plundering the web

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I've been reading quite a few threads around here that were posted by people who have gotten hurt by google recently. It is obvious that Google doesn't care about us as individuals. However, there are quite a few people here that care about and are willing to defend Google. I believe this is due to Google's record of social responsibility. Big G may have a good record, however if you only look at the actions it has taken so far this year than it looks like a lot less of a paradigm of virtue.

Perhaps something has changed over at Big G HQ. Perhaps it is size that matters here. What ever the case, Big G is now treating its user base like a natural resource that is can mold and shape to best fit its vision.

As governments know, people can be a dangerous resource to mold. Populations tend to strike back. I think this new movement for negative SEO is just the population of the internet reacting to Google's new stance. Reacting in a clear and natural way to an oppressive force is a moral action. Google is acting like an oppressive force on the internet. What some people don't seem to be realizing is that when one person reacts to that oppression by attacking another person that reaction isn't an immoral act. It is actually just a piece of a reactionary movement that provides Big G with a limit to how much they can coerce the internet.
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  • Profile picture of the author aygabtu
    I agree with Google that all the people putting out crap sites, that try to target long tail keywords on weight loss, Alzheimer, or whatever the latest buzz seems to be about need to not overtake legitimate sites by medical professionals, etc.

    I am a programmer, and there is never a single algorithm with the amount of data google is processing that is going to catch only the bad. Also, if it is true that they are punishing sites for spammy links, there is nothing to stop competitors from xrummer'ing their competition into oblivion on the next algorithm change.

    It is making it impossible for new sites to establish themselves at all. So much for advancing and improving web content. How many of us can come up with an idea that people are going to go out of their way to back link to on the internet and enough that it will make a difference in the SERPs?

    The only way to do it, and I believe google is shifting this way is to force people to use advertising, unless you have a large network of online friends that you can enlist to help you. But even then, to compete for keywords that get 100k per month traffic, how many links does it take to make it into the top 5 in the SERPs? And how do you know google will not somehow penalize you anyway on the next update?
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Used to think Google were the good guys, I hope they get overtaken by Yahoo in the coming years.
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      • Profile picture of the author retsek
        Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

        Used to think Google were the good guys, I hope they get overtaken by Yahoo in the coming years.
        Yahoo??? Yahoo is limping along.
        Microsoft?? They tried to sell-off Bing to Facebook to reduce their losses. Facebook refused.

        Get real. There are no good or bad guys. Google is a business, they aren't there to give you free traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    I find it funny that a lot people refuse to take responsibility for how they run an online business. I suppose it's just easier to pass blame on to some other business like Google.

    I'm not backing Google, this is SEO & $hit happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    I took a hit of about 4 sites 1 was un expected as I had been spamming it to see what it could take and boy it took a lot...lol

    I had a clients site where he thought he was being helpful by adding a list of local places he does his business which is helpful to the user but google was not too impressed but its an easy fix.

    The other 2 site was an amazon site using a plugin that pulled in feeds.... one of them was 100% dup content and the other was about 60% dup content. The 2 aff sites were deindexed but I am sure once I remove the dup posts it will all be good again.

    Other than that so far all of my other sites have shot up the rankings....
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    • Hi Danny. Sounds like you really know what you're doing! I have just launched a custom wordpress site that I've created to help insurance agents get local leads. I'm going to be doing the same thing for hundreds of other agents around the US and wondered if you could give me any advice on the best and quickest way to do this. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! Do you know of any guides or books that will teach me steps of what I should be doing? I am a smart guy and can follow directions very well...Just need some guidance. Thanks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    Hiya,

    I have just been around for a long time and I have seen the internet evolve and every time it does change google (in my eyes) hasnt lost its direction. SO I just try and make my sites look as good as possible but I also do integrate ads and aff links into them.

    With SEO I personally dont think anything has changed. Link building is still effective as long as its accompanied by good content.

    On any new site I launch I never have adverts on it for a few months I watch it and analyse everything...lol a little OCD maybe

    SO as far as your sites are concerned I would try not to host them all on the same server and I would also try and vary every single one a lot.... You dont want to leave too much of a footprint around.

    I have been reading a lot about twitter and facebook in these new updates and it would appear that the algo changes are relying on social media a lot more so I would look at trying to implement that into your business.

    Dont do anything thats b1ackhat and the way i define what is b1ackhat is whether you would be confident telling your client what you did...if its no then probably isnt whitehat

    Good luck and keep us updated in your progress

    Danny
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    New sites are faring very well these days. No need to jump off a bridge.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    SEO is ever-changing and we have to adapt but I agree with you on many points regarding Google's recent trends.

    Those who defend Google tend to not understand what things like social responsibility and corporate governance is. From a business perspective Google's practices of late are questionable and anti-competitive practices seem to be taking place. The size of Google calls for greater transparency because their magnitude and reach can easily stifle competition and negatively affect the free market.

    The fact that Google is been probed by government is no surprise at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author brettb
    > record of social responsibility

    You mean their record of not paying fair taxes, surely?
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