Google Ranking Updates in favour of Blogger

by ketset
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I have lots and lots of sites on Blogger.com just for many reasons and after this recent genocide of sites by Google I have noticed that pretty much all my Blogspot sites have moved up in the rankings -

Has this happened to anyone else?
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Is this Google's way of using it's own products to take over their own Search Engine?

Blogger/+1/Adwords etc
#blogger #favour #google #ranking #updates
  • Profile picture of the author HTITeam
    yeah i think So
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    Yepper, I just opened a Blogspot
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    • Profile picture of the author Magazine man
      I dont Think there is any rules regarding how Google choose to rank pages.
      But they can lose users if the return crap results..
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      • Profile picture of the author inter123
        My blogspot blogger was in position 5 now it no 1. Dont know the fact it is not monetised has anything to with it.
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      • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
        Originally Posted by Magazine man View Post

        I dont Think there is any rules regarding how Google choose to rank pages..

        Actually in most cases activity that is designed to restrict competition is considered illegal in just about every industry.

        Remember when MS gave away IE for free and got sued?
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    I wrote two posts in Blogger in the last 24 hours and have 138 page views. Imagine accomplishing that on your own domain?
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    • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      I wrote two posts in Blogger in the last 24 hours and have 138 page views. Imagine accomplishing that on your own domain?
      i opened blogspot after reading this.
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

        i opened blogspot after reading this.
        It can't hurt. The pages actually look good. Hell, the blogging interface is decent TBH. I haven't used it in years.

        Of course these pages are 'properly optimized' for Google, which can't hurt. If you don't mind blogging I can't see what it would hurt to post a few times a day on Blogger.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jay Brass
        Originally Posted by TheProgrammer View Post

        i opened blogspot after reading this.
        Same here lol.

        I haven't been using Blogger for a while but after reading that post, I'm going to work hard to see that I get the same amount of traffic.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Ranking higher has nothing to do with Blogspot/Blogger.

    You rank web pages, not sub/domains.
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    • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Ranking higher has nothing to do with Blogspot/Blogger.

      You rank web pages, not sub/domains.
      So, there is absolutely no benefit from it being on a trusted domain owned by G? I'm curious if G allows penalties to be applied to blogspot blogs the same as a regular Joe's site... Or are they somehow excluded.

      If not, there could be a potential benefit to blogger.
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    • Profile picture of the author Zibblu
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Ranking higher has nothing to do with Blogspot/Blogger.

      You rank web pages, not sub/domains.
      I just don't think this is true. It's easier to rank a new page on certain domains (like blogger or hubpages) than on a fresh URL in my experience. Much easier.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Zibblu View Post

        I just don't think this is true. It's easier to rank a new page on certain domains (like blogger or hubpages) than on a fresh URL in my experience. Much easier.
        Believe what you want, I have both blogspot & Wordpress (self hosted) blogs 5+ years old, I've never noticed any benefit one way or the other on any of the sites I've built.

        If your ranking super long-tail keywords it's going to rank regardless of what you use.

        BTW, sub-domains are treated as separate domains, the root domain blogspot.com isn't doing anything for you as far as SEO.
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        • Profile picture of the author LarryHaywood
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Believe what you want, I have both blogspot & Wordpress (self hosted) blogs 5+ years old, I've never noticed any benefit one way or the other on any of the sites I've built.

          If your ranking super long-tail keywords it's going to rank regardless of what you use.

          BTW, sub-domains are treated as separate domains, the root domain blogspot.com isn't doing anything for you as far as SEO.
          Ok Yukon, I have to pick your brain a little... let's say I have a root domain, mysite.com and it catches a penalty from G for whatever reason. Does that then mean I can simply create a sub-domain and it wouldn't be effected by any penalties because sub-domains are treated as separate domains as you say?

          I don't see how this can be true... but maybe I just need to be enlightened a bit.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    are you posting fresh content or just copy paste work on your blogs? if copy paste then may be you saying right.
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  • Profile picture of the author Zibblu
    I don't think I'm going to bother starting up with blogspot again... I feel like it'd be chasing my tail. Maybe if this keeps up...
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Hey did somebody say blogger lol, I use blogger custom domains and I haven't seen any negative affects on any of my sites since this new update.
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  • Profile picture of the author vuedoolor
    youtube videos are ranking too
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by vuedoolor View Post

      youtube videos are ranking too
      Of course. Google really loves Google
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Googles search results...

    1. Youtube
    2. Blogger
    3. Google Plus
    4. Google Products

    ...what have I missed?
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    • Profile picture of the author josephseeley
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Googles search results...

      1. Youtube
      2. Blogger
      3. Google Plus
      4. Google Products

      ...what have I missed?
      Just Wiki!
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      • Profile picture of the author Duncan
        I checked a few of my blogger blogs, and seen a small change to the positive in rankings. If blogger got the positive end of the stick with this change than Google is playing games.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Googles search results...

      1. Youtube
      2. Blogger
      3. Google Plus
      4. Google Products

      ...what have I missed?
      Nothing. I think you've pretty much covered page one of the results for most searches.
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    • Profile picture of the author origin
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Googles search results...

      1. Youtube
      2. Blogger
      3. Google Plus
      4. Google Products

      ...what have I missed?
      Nope, you missed something :

      1. ADWORDS in the first three places
      2. Google Maps
      3. Youtube
      4. Blogger....

      Anyone noticed just how much advertising is now going on above the fold on Google? The same thing they penalise us for with adsense.

      Organic serps are going lower and lower down....
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      • Profile picture of the author origin
        Another observation related to this.

        One of my downed Affiliate websites has only ONE page left ranking in Google. Very high, like # 1 - # 3 for "keyword reviews". None of the other review pages on the website rank anywhere anymore. Only this one.

        Gues who the affiliate network runs through for this ONE? Google Affiliate network off course... ALL OTHER PAGES in my site dropped, this is the only one that went up and incidently the only product review page that is using the Google Affiliate network. Coincidence?

        So yes, I think a common theme is emerging here for me. google definitely pushing their own stuff more and more.

        Remember the days when we would encourage visitors to our websites to use Google? we linked to them for free offering our visitors this neat service? we helped spread the word. we made google to a degree.

        maybe we should do it again for someone else. google is not too big to fail i reckon. ask myspace and yahoo...

        it's either that or join em. use and abuse the google properties. i will be posting deindexed content on blogger myself and check what happens....
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by redfeilds18 View Post

      Blogger has now better SEO services its time to move from wordpress to blogger
      Hey wait a minute I like being one of the only people on wf still using blogger, don't going around telling people to leave wordpress lol, jk btw.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Interesting....

    One of my sites that didnt get hit that hard has backlinks coming from an old blogspot account I posted back in 2010.

    Coincidence?
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Blogger definatly has a ranking advantage in the SERPs. I've seen it hundereds of times. Even blogger blogs which contain no original content rank on page 1 for product keywords yet original content with good on page SEO which is self hosted lags behind.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cyberdog1
    I really think the point that Google Loves Google is so correct.

    I have tons of Blogspot Blogs and i have tested some of them with only one post just to see if this is right - I am page one after three years of not having done anything for it, it's ridiculous.

    Also i do like Blogspot, it's free, easy to use for niche subjects and because it is Google you just click and add Adsense all over your site, I make quite a bit from Blogger with Adsense or Blogsense as we call it and it's worth taking another look now this has happened.

    But Ketset raises an interesting point - There has to be some kind of competition rule doesn't there regarding this?
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by Cyberdog1 View Post

      But Ketset raises an interesting point - There has to be some kind of competition rule doesn't there regarding this?
      Competition rule set by who?
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      • Profile picture of the author Architex
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Competition rule set by who?
        The US federal government. And yes if they are giving their own products better results they will have the DOJ climbing up their you know what. They are already being investigated by the FTC and the DOJ for antitrust violations. If they are indeed doing this they will get screwed. Because as big as Google is it cannot compete with Uncle Sam.

        Actually this new update may give the DOJ and the FTC the ammo they need.
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      • Profile picture of the author Cyberdog1
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Competition rule set by who?
        In the UK for example there are competition rules stating that in a certain industry a single company cannot control more than a specific percentage of that industry's income.

        So if Google is getting 90% of searches on the internet made through them then if the UK competition rules applies they would have a problem as they doesn't allow any space for others.
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        • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
          Regarding this subject, does it even matter if you use your own custom domain on blogger or just use blogspot?

          I know Nest28 has been successful with custom domains, but am wondering if it really matters in terms of rankings.

          Opinions?

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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    In my experience custom domains seem to do better with blogger than having the blogspot.com version. Before I buy my custom domains I place articles on blogspot but they never rank or get indexed unless I buy a custom domain, the olny other way to have the same results is to backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    It is logical that Google prefers their own properties. They know they're in control. That means the sites are being run to their specs. They have good optmizations. Plus it's all on Google's network, which reduces their expenses. They obviously get fast loading from their own servers, etc.

    I know if I ran a giant website like them I'd prefer my own properties too!
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  • Profile picture of the author looking4adsense
    well i have a blogspot blog created from late march, I solely use it to post spun content and link to my money site, so far I have posted 62 blog posts, and have now received 468 organic visits and ranks for 30-40 keywords. I had a large visitor spike in the past few days (see image). I have done zero link building or promotion for this blog since it's just a dummy throw away account.

    I doubt you can do the same with a standalone domain.
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  • Profile picture of the author ketset
    That might be coincidence but for me personally I have seen 80% of my Blogger sites rise and the rankings and some of them I have done nothing to in the past year -

    This in one way is great because Blogger has just got Good again!

    But at the same time isn't the Google Dominance getting a bit scary?
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    • Profile picture of the author Zibblu
      They have us chasing our tails... not really sure what point there is to it. People will just move to whatever is working now. I'm probably going to start up more blogspots (and look up the old ones I have that I havent messed with in years...)
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  • Profile picture of the author hardnova
    Originally Posted by ketset View Post

    I have lots and lots of sites on Blogger.com just for many reasons and after this recent genocide of sites by Google I have noticed that pretty much all my Blogspot sites have moved up in the rankings -

    Has this happened to anyone else?
    &
    Is this Google's way of using it's own products to take over their own Search Engine?

    Blogger/+1/Adwords etc

    I think that it is obvious that G will use ANY method needed to gain advantage.

    Q. Why wouldn't they?

    Example: F-book likes no longer count for much compared to G+, Blogger is favored over WP etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author glock67
    blogger is owned by google so of course they are going to favor it over other sites
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    Does anyone else think that the launch of google affiliate programs on blogger coinciding with this is just a coincidence?
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  • Profile picture of the author bigwhiteshark
    Originally Posted by ketset View Post

    Is this Google's way of using it's own products to take over their own Search Engine?
    Obviously.
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  • Profile picture of the author uoftenwinny
    Blogger is a good site for promoting websites and services.
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  • Profile picture of the author Natlex
    Not only blogger but my web 2.0s like wordpress.com have also increased in a lot in rankings since the update... Almost makes me want to just do blogger blogs considering how high they are ranking now (even higher than the sites they are linking to!)
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    It's a joke that Penguin is supposed to be targetting webspam when all the webspam created by lazy marketers which is on Google's own blogger blogs is now ranking high.
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  • Profile picture of the author RayW
    I don't think blogger sites got a boost. I sold a blogger site (custom domain) a few months ago that was ranking #1 for its target keyword until the recent update when it went down to #18. All of its links were from AMR blasts.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    My Blogspot now has 678 page views with 9 posts. Google really loves Google
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    Originally Posted by ketset View Post

    I have lots and lots of sites on Blogger.com just for many reasons and after this recent genocide of sites by Google I have noticed that pretty much all my Blogspot sites have moved up in the rankings -

    Has this happened to anyone else?
    &
    Is this Google's way of using it's own products to take over their own Search Engine?

    Blogger/+1/Adwords etc
    Seems as if I'm not the only one that has noticed this.

    Time to start putting up some more blogger blogs, eh?
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  • Profile picture of the author momo3
    Yes they are favoring blogger post Penguin. Anyone who thinks differently hasn't done their research.
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  • Profile picture of the author kajol shafiq
    That's not true ! Really, for my blogger blog which was enjoying the number 1 status for the last six months and getting a traffic of around 1000 visitors per day vanished after penguin update! All unique contents and no blackhat techniques to build backlinks. Is this google's way of clearing spam sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author gregowr
      I have noticed my blogger receiving a bump, recently. I find myself in the top 3 pretty consistently on related keywords.

      And because I have setup as a "blog.mysite.com" subdomain, G views this as updated information (just my opinion) and it performs much better than my main domain.

      At this point, I would never consider moving off my blogger account.
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  • Profile picture of the author jonathanleger
    Google's latest update heavily skewed the rankings in favor of authority domains. Blogger is an incredibly authoritative domain. You won't see benefits for custom domains, since they don't reside on the blogspot.com domain, but you will see some benefits for your freebie blogspot blogs (ironic, isn't it?).

    I have an "ancient" blog circa 2008 that used to rank #1 for "cat pictures" for a long time. Then I stopped updating and linking to it, moving on to other projects. It eventually fell out of the rankings completely and has been gone for about 3 years -- until this last update.

    Now that freebie blogspot blog is back on page one and is earning a nice little chunk of AdSense money -- while the most recent post is still from 2008.

    Why? Because Google's update puts way too much emphasis on domain authority -- and blogspot.com has massive amounts of domain authority.
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    • Profile picture of the author mosthost
      Originally Posted by jonathanleger View Post

      Google's latest update heavily skewed the rankings in favor of authority domains. Blogger is an incredibly authoritative domain. You won't see benefits for custom domains, since they don't reside on the blogspot.com domain, but you will see some benefits for your freebie blogspot blogs (ironic, isn't it?).

      I have an "ancient" blog circa 2008 that used to rank #1 for "cat pictures" for a long time. Then I stopped updating and linking to it, moving on to other projects. It eventually fell out of the rankings completely and has been gone for about 3 years -- until this last update.

      Now that freebie blogspot blog is back on page one and is earning a nice little chunk of AdSense money -- while the most recent post is still from 2008.

      Why? Because Google's update puts way too much emphasis on domain authority -- and blogspot.com has massive amounts of domain authority.
      No question. And it's only going to get more authoritative. That's why it seems like a safe strategy to leverage that authority and build at least an 'outpost' there into your mail marketing funnel.

      This is true of other highly authoritative domains.

      These domains not only have authority, they have PEOPLE. Since they're so heavily trafficked it's easy to leverage some of that audience into your own subdomain.
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  • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
    The only thing that is going to shake Google up is Facebook announcing web search.

    As much as I dislike Facebook I would LOVE to see it happen. Google would start freaking out and we'd finally have some real competition. I don't even think it'd be that hard. Just a simple partnership with Bing.
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  • Profile picture of the author gregowr
    Just a quick update on my Blogger site...I decided to make the leap to Wordpress.

    Well, I was VERY reluctant to make the move, because losing my rankings would mean losing my lively hood. But, the tools and customization of WP could not be denied. So I did it.

    It is now 10 days later and here is my report - I see ZERO negative impact to SEO or search results. If anything, there has been a positive bump.

    The conversion was fairly simple (but time consuming) with the Blogger Import Tools and 1-to-1 blogger URL redirects. (if anyone needs help private message me)

    I will keep everyone updated on the status of the page, but so far I can say that the search impact on my site conversion (off of blogger to WP) has been a positive one...

    Stay tuned...
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    The only site I write blogs on outside of my Wordpress website
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  • Profile picture of the author Eugeanne
    Actually No, no its not. I have a blog at Blogger for several months now but still it doesn't have a rank yet. But I do receive comments and feedback on my post.
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