Legal action being taken against Google

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Then as now, the core question is whether power was abused. The agency's inquiry has focused on whether Google has manipulated its search results, making it less likely that competing companies or products appear at the top of a results page.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/27/te...agewanted=1&hp

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  • Profile picture of the author derprinz
    That's really something interesting !
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  • Profile picture of the author Manuel Aguirre
    thanks for sharing!
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    Maybe google shouldnt have been so arrogant with the other "minor" investigations like the wifi intrusion.

    Google keeps BILLIONS of dollars over seas in shady tax schemes to avoid paying taxes which hopefully will result in an IRS investigation.

    Unfortunately president Obama is in googles pocket so i doubt all of this will go anywhere
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    • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
      Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

      Google keeps BILLIONS of dollars over seas in shady tax schemes to avoid paying taxes which hopefully will result in an IRS investigation.
      I really hope that Google never has to pay any more than they already do to IRS or any other tax authority. They pay their share by providing high paying jobs to thousands of people. And some tax. Just because a company or a person makes a lot of money (especially a technology company such as Google), doesn't mean others are entitled to more than a logical share of that money through tax.

      The tax systems in most countries are flawed and favour the poor (and in many cases useless/whiners people). It's no wonder that smart individuals and companies are looking for ways to legally minimize tax.

      Whining about how much tax someone else pays is pathetic. Unless they're flat out stealing or not paying anything at all.
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      • Profile picture of the author kthor
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post


        Whining about how much tax someone else pays is pathetic. Unless they're flat out stealing or not paying anything at all.
        and hopefully you're not one of those CPA for the rich people ....
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      • Profile picture of the author simplyben
        I really don't understand how anyone can complain because Google isn't placing their website on page 1 for their keywords. I also thinking sueing them over their algorithm is completely ridiculous.

        Google is a For-Profit company, they make decisions on based on that.

        The reason they own 70% of the search market is because users have generally been happy with the search results that they have given over the past 13 years. Remember the days when you did a search on AltaVista and you could never find what you were lookign for?

        If you don't like how Google places sites in searches, you are completely free to create your own search engine. But to tell them that they need to place certain sites on page 1 is ridiculous.
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      • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        I really hope that Google never has to pay any more than they already do to IRS or any other tax authority. They pay their share by providing high paying jobs to thousands of people. And some tax. Just because a company or a person makes a lot of money (especially a technology company such as Google), doesn't mean others are entitled to more than a logical share of that money through tax.

        The tax systems in most countries are flawed and favour the poor (and in many cases useless/whiners people). It's no wonder that smart individuals and companies are looking for ways to legally minimize tax.

        Whining about how much tax someone else pays is pathetic. Unless they're flat out stealing or not paying anything at all.

        Actually i am not whining at all, However if companies like Google and GE use illicit methods like the "double irish" so that they pay no taxes on huge amounts of income but can qualify for stimulus funding that is pure crap especially when they support a big spending president.

        I dont begrudge google for supporting politicians of their choice but when that politicians platform is we want to spend more and you need to pay maore it is a bit hypocritical for them to use semi-legal tax schemes to avoid paying.

        Then when the media gets wind of the story you go to your search quality manager and ask him to remove the story from your index.

        That is not whining about taxes, that is pointing out unethical and hypocritical behavior
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    "Then as now, the core question is whether power was abused. The agency’s inquiry has focused on whether Google has manipulated its search results, making it less likely that competing companies or products appear at the top of a results page."

    Even if this is true i dont know if this is technically illegal. It is their database afterall.

    If this is infact illegal there is no question youtube and google shopping have artificial rankings
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  • Profile picture of the author SomedayMaybe
    I can't see how there could ever NOT be a conflict of interests in allowing a company to rank sites organically AND to charge those that don't make it to the top for the opportunity to appear there anyway. It seems obvious to me that in order to profit, the company would always rank sites already enjoying a wide audience and therefore less likely to pay for one (big, well known sites) at the top, filling any gaps with sites that are produced in such massive numbers that it's obvious their owners aren't about to stump up the cash required for paid traffic (thin, crappy sites). This would leave the owners of small, decent sites that they have worked hard on languishing at the bottom of the SERPs with no choice but to pay for their traffic.

    Whether the company in question actually manipulates the balance of power in this way is almost irrelevant. The fact that they hold all the cards and are obviously able to is wrong. Clearly they need to make money and can't be expected to produce search results for nothing, but given the power they are allowed to wield, I don't think complete transparency of the algorithm is too much to ask for in return.

    The internet is far too big and worth far too much money to let such a company dictate the visibility of sites with vague statements like 'We're issuing an over-optimisation penalty. What's optimum? As if we'd tell YOU!'. Anyone who can't see abuse of power here is actively trying not to.
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    • Profile picture of the author honestbiz
      I have to mention that Google also supports CISPA and in fact lobbied for it. CISPA allows the security agencies of the US govt like the NSA to request data on anyone from any company, which includes Google themselves.

      And we know Google has a lot of data on a lot of people, and they will be all too happy to hand it over.

      People here need to wake up and stop drinking the Google kool aid. Big Brother is getting nearer and nearer....

      PS: There are some petitions online against CISPA. Go sign them and do your part.
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    You know now that I think of it I wonder if penalizing affiliate sites that obviously offer products other than googles adsense woulld qualify under this investigation.
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