Maybe G update is a good thing (Say welcome to cr*ppy sites)

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Perhaps this new Google update was a good thing after all.

I mean, I`ve seen few cr*ppy sites on page 1. Some have less than 400wrds and no backlinks, huge adsense ad blocks above the fold and stuff like that...

I`m going to be building sites like that too from now on.

Where it took a 1-3 days to build a micro site + lots of backlinking, I can now build few sites a day and don`t need to worry about linking that much. Few links here and there...

If google wants that, that`s what they will be getting.

If it`s going to be that easy, this update is awesome!

-Lauri-
#crppy #good #sites #thing #update
  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    I agree. I've been knocking myself out to produce good quality content. Maybe I should just go with the flow and save myself a lot of aggravation. Apparently, Google loves the crappy sites better.

    I've tried doing things the hard way. I'll see if the easy way works. It won't cost too much. I already have a hosting reseller account. I'll pick up 4 or 5 new domain names today and buy some spinner software.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    There is a huge amount of crap on top now, but surely Big G must be monitoring this and will roll out a new update shortly (touch the biggest piece of wood).
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  • Profile picture of the author bboyspyder
    The update has no other purpose than to destabilse SERP so that more people start using Adwords.

    And besides the onpage difference between Adwords and and organic search results is getting very thin
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    Might work, until they start hearing things like "Screw Google, Im gonna start using Bing".. we'll be seeing a rollback pretty soon here I suspect
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    • Profile picture of the author guitarjosh
      Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

      Might work, until they start hearing things like "Screw Google, Im gonna start using Bing".. we'll be seeing a rollback pretty soon here I suspect
      Not hardly. Google doesn't care about your internet marketing or your website or your threat to use Bing. They just need to appeal to the 99% that aren't marketers, which they're doing just fine with.

      How many of your facebook friends are posting that suddenly they aren't getting relevant results in Google? Exactly.
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      • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
        Originally Posted by guitarjosh View Post

        Not hardly. Google doesn't care about your internet marketing or your website or your threat to use Bing. They just need to appeal to the 99% that aren't marketers, which they're doing just fine with.

        How many of your facebook friends are posting that suddenly they aren't getting relevant results in Google? Exactly.
        Umm.. are internet marketers the only ones on the face of the earth getting wierd results from Google? Exactly. Are they complaining? Well, why would they take time out of their busy day to find someone to complain to? If they're getting f$%ed up search results, they'll just go and use Bing or Yahoo. If you tell the average person that you're pissed off about Pandas and Penguins, they'd think you're crazy. We're the only ones complaining because we're seo's, and its our sites on the line.
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        • Profile picture of the author guitarjosh
          Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

          Umm.. are internet marketers the only ones on the face of the earth getting wierd results from Google? Exactly. Are they complaining? Well, they dont have anyone to complain to, and no reason to complain, really, they just go and do it. We're the only ones complaining because its our sites on the line.
          May you never consider a career as a defense attorney.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Bing is only sending me about 50 uniques a day right now. I was getting about 300 uniques from Google. More people have to use Bing.
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  • Profile picture of the author JakeTech
    There's an upsetting number of fake facebook pages ranking quite high for nice keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    Dude, who said I'm defending anybody? Wtf?
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

      Dude, who said I'm defending anybody? Wtf?
      He was alluding to the fact that you did not make a very strong case for your point :rolleyes:.
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  • Profile picture of the author akazzz
    Originally Posted by lniskasaari View Post

    I mean, I`ve seen few cr*ppy sites on page 1. Some have less than 400wrds and no backlinks, huge adsense ad blocks above the fold and stuff like that...

    I`m going to be building sites like that too from now on.

    Where it took a 1-3 days to build a micro site + lots of backlinking, I can now build few sites a day and don`t need to worry about linking that much. Few links here and there...

    If google wants that, that`s what they will be getting.

    If it`s going to be that easy, this update is awesome!
    Good luck surviving the next update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fahmzie
    Originally Posted by lniskasaari View Post

    Perhaps this new Google update was a good thing after all.

    I mean, I`ve seen few cr*ppy sites on page 1. Some have less than 400wrds and no backlinks, huge adsense ad blocks above the fold and stuff like that...

    I`m going to be building sites like that too from now on.

    Where it took a 1-3 days to build a micro site + lots of backlinking, I can now build few sites a day and don`t need to worry about linking that much. Few links here and there...

    If google wants that, that`s what they will be getting.

    If it`s going to be that easy, this update is awesome!

    -Lauri-
    LOL...do it fast buddy before the next update come up
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    • Profile picture of the author lniskasaari
      Originally Posted by Fahmzie View Post

      LOL...do it fast buddy before the next update come up
      ...maybe then my current sites rank high again
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  • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
    Ok, my point is, people get crappy results, people go to other search engine. Google doesn't want people to go to other search engine, so Google either rolls back or makes new update in order to not lose visitors. What's not to get here?
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    • Profile picture of the author Mister Rex
      Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

      Ok, my point is, people get crappy results, people go to other search engine. Google doesn't want people to go to other search engine, so Google either rolls back or makes new update in order to not lose visitors. What's not to get here?
      The problem is, google is smarter than you. By the time you get your plan up and running they will have figured things out and your plan of destroying google with crappy sites will fail. Actually, your plan will go unnoticed.

      Why not try to do something to build your business instead of trying to take down a powerful entity such as google?
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      • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
        Originally Posted by Mister Rex View Post

        The problem is, google is smarter than you. By the time you get your plan up and running they will have figured things out and your plan of destroying google with crappy sites will fail. Actually, your plan will go unnoticed.

        Why not try to do something to build your business instead of trying to take down a powerful entity such as google?
        Why are you quoting me? Lol!!! I didnt say I had a plan, the OP did!
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        • Profile picture of the author Mister Rex
          Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

          Why are you quoting me? Lol!!! I didnt say I had a plan, the OP did!
          My bad 1000 apologies/
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          • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
            Originally Posted by lniskasaari View Post

            Perhaps this new Google update was a good thing after all.

            I mean, I`ve seen few cr*ppy sites on page 1. Some have less than 400wrds and no backlinks, huge adsense ad blocks above the fold and stuff like that...

            I`m going to be building sites like that too from now on.

            Where it took a 1-3 days to build a micro site + lots of backlinking, I can now build few sites a day and don`t need to worry about linking that much. Few links here and there...

            If google wants that, that`s what they will be getting.
            Thats pretty dissapointing. What you do is up to you, but man....thats a pretty average mindset.

            Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

            I've tried doing things the hard way. I'll see if the easy way works.
            Im sure anyone that was successful in life said that, too. :rolleyes:

            Originally Posted by Mister Rex View Post

            The problem is, google is smarter than you.
            Dude, seriously. Give the G asskissing a rest already.
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            • Profile picture of the author lniskasaari
              Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

              Thats pretty dissapointing. What you do is up to you, but man....thats a pretty average mindset.
              Yeah, thanks. Always wanted to be a working class hero anyway...

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              • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
                Originally Posted by lniskasaari View Post

                Yeah, thanks. Always wanted to be a working class hero anyway...

                Hi, I took it that you were being sarcastic, I was correct right?

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            • Profile picture of the author Mister Rex
              Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post


              Dude, seriously. Give the G asskissing a rest already.
              I will not. Whether you like it or not, they are the best search engine in the World. You might think duckduckgo is the new Google, but people thought the same thing when Bing came out a few years back.

              You go optimize for duckduckgo, I will stick with where the traffic really comes from, and for now that is Google. And I LOVE Google. I have a life and livelihood because of them.
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          • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
            Originally Posted by Mister Rex View Post

            My bad 1000 apologies/
            No problem man! LOL I just find this all entertaining! :p
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            • Profile picture of the author Enfusia
              On one of my adsense KW's for a nursing jobs niche the top site is Medical jobs for ex Felons.

              That alone would be funny but the next site down is a Pinterest pin with 0 links and I'm sitting at #4 with over 4,800 links. None of which are forum profiles, any kind of blasts or any of that other junk. It was quite a bit of ALN though.

              Just thought I would share.

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  • Profile picture of the author SamDermot
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    I agree, Google tries to give relevant and quality result and search feature is the main of all Google products, Google+ is other thing and Facebook is also different thing they can't be compared to Google search.

    What I have realized is we shouldn't post duplicate content. And avoid keyword stuffing.
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  • Profile picture of the author cheapstuff
    I am just wondering what keywords you guys are searching... any real keyword seems to be displaying good results for me. Anyone who is mad about penguin or panda or any Google update is obviously affected by the update in a bad way. Meaning they are spammers of some sort and do not understand it themselves. Google finds ways to catch your horrible SEO and slaps you for it... case closed, find a new hobby.
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  • Profile picture of the author zaco
    One of my testing sites got hit but the other sites are fine, hopefully everybody will find a way to recover, I know Google screwed up alittle bit in this update and some crappy sites showed up but I guess they are working on it..

    Lets get to the reality part! why would Google help internet marketers to rank ? Google doesn't care about our sites and they don't want sites created just to make money, if I had a site and people come and post stuff on it just to make money..try to rank and sell products then I will kick them out , use logic guys..
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by zaco View Post

      One of my testing sites got hit but the other sites are fine, hopefully everybody will find a way to recover, I know Google screwed up alittle bit in this update and some crappy sites showed up but I guess they are working on it..

      Lets get to the reality part! why would Google help internet marketers to rank ? Google doesn't care about our sites and they don't want sites created just to make money, if I had a site and people come and post stuff on it just to make money..try to rank and sell products then I will kick them out , use logic guys..
      Google's Webmaster guidelines say that affiliate sites are OK as long as they provide value. Who is to say whether a site was created just to make money or not? If the content is original, the grammar and spelling is good and the content has plenty of related keywords to the topic, surely that is a good indication that the site owner wants to provide value to the readers and not just make a buck.

      The most stupid thing about this update is that lazy gits who have literally copied and pasted directly from the Amazon product description page and included nothing else are ranking for keywords on page 1. If Google is against lazy marketers and "webspam", why do they allow this to happen?
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      • Profile picture of the author zaco
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Google's Webmaster guidelines say that affiliate sites are OK as long as they provide value. Who is to say whether a site was created just to make money or not? If the content is original, the grammar is good and the content has plenty of related keywords to the topic, surely that is a good indication that the site owner wants to provide value to the readers and not just make a buck.

        The most stupid thing about this update is that lazy gits who have literally copied and pasted directly from the Amazon product description page and included nothing else are ranking for keywords on page 1. If Google is against lazy marketers and "webspam", why do they allow this to happen?
        They say its okay but in reality they don't want people to make money that way especially if people are building links whatever way..the links that are built to your website should be naturally built according to them so whatever link you build even if its from a blog post you wrote or a comment you left is an unnatural link since you built it.

        I am not on Google's side but think about it, its logic..at the end of the day its their search engine and if they want to let spammy sites rank or whatever site ranks then its their decision, I cannot complain about a free service that I am not paying for, I have no rights to complain even tho they are hypocrites
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by zaco View Post

          They say its okay but in reality they don't want people to make money that way especially if people are building links whatever way..the links that are built to your website should be naturally built according to them so whatever link you build even if its from a blog post you wrote or a comment you left is an unnatural link since you built it.

          I am not on Google's side but think about it, its logic..at the end of the day its their search engine and if they want to let spammy sites rank or whatever site ranks then its their decision, I cannot complain about a free service that I am not paying for, I have no rights to complain even tho they are hypocrites
          I don't think Google is against people making money because what difference does it make to them either way? If anything, they want people to put Adsense on their sites and make money because they make money from it themselves.

          They just want the search results to be relevant and people not using unnatural linking as you said.

          If no one complained, how would Google know what Webmasters thought about the changes they are making? If all those 700+ negative comments about Penguin on the Google Webmaster blog were all fake praise, what good would that do?
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    wanna start using bing right now?? go on start it right now!!! lol
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  • Profile picture of the author Oranges
    ....and then here comes a new update after 3 months, against what's working!
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    I feel like it's sort of like winning the lottery getting your crappy site picked for page 1

    If I made a website and put crap on it and did no linking it was sit at the bottom forever
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  • Profile picture of the author Dentist
    The most irrelevant results I get is when I search my name. It used to be Facebook, G+, LinkedIn and Twitter on top which made perfect sense. Now besides those websites I see a bunch of crappy sites that I don't even know with a wrong address of my home, LinkedIn directory for that search, etc... I am happy this was named just after Penguin. I hope a day never comes that they call it Dinosaur update. I would probably find my name on the second page of Google when I'd search my name.
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    • Profile picture of the author kickmoney
      As if Google cares what MFA'ers in the Adsense section in Warrior Forum think.

      Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

      Might work, until they start hearing things like "Screw Google, Im gonna start using Bing".. we'll be seeing a rollback pretty soon here I suspect


      LOL. Some of you guys are just too much.
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      • Profile picture of the author markowe
        Originally Posted by kickmoney View Post

        As if Google cares what MFA'ers in the Adsense section in Warrior Forum think.





        LOL. Some of you guys are just too much.
        Yeah, pretty funny! So wait, these guys are somehow going to DEFECT to Bing with their MFA sites! How does that exactly work?!
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  • Profile picture of the author uoftenwinny
    My keywords already kicked out far away I think. because i did not check they any more. Maybe some will get benifit from it but some not.
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  • Profile picture of the author jcruz
    I'm seeing a lot of wiki pages starting to rank a lot more higher than usual. Hopefully they will roll out another update soon.
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