I'm curious to know if anyone has applied my long tail method and made any money from adsense.

by nest28
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I just notice that even my thread titles are always long lol. Has anybody made money from a new site using the questions for post title method, or seen even a small amount of success. I've had 4 people tell they made 4 dollars here and 6 dollars there from new sites. Some people are just adding this method to existing sites.

Honestly I'm just want to do a follow up, a lot of so called gurus give a method and leave you high and dry, not that I'm calling myself a guru or anything.


Have you notice traffic coming to your site from long tail phrase/questions?
#adsense #applied #curious #long #made #method #money #tail
  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Yeah I did 6 months ago and I'm getting 4 visitors a day. Zero linkbuilding works great
    One hundred pages of content!
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      Yes. $9 plus a few days ago and $5 plus yesterday. I created the site when I first started following the threads (maybe 2 weeks ago?).

      I did create one backlink on youtube and that got me one click so far. Other than that, no backlinking.
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        Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

        Yes. $9 plus a few days ago and $5 plus yesterday. I created the site when I first started following the threads (maybe 2 weeks ago?).

        I did create one backlink on youtube and that got me one click so far. Other than that, no backlinking.
        Good job Carl! Sounds like you're off to a decent start.

        If you don't mind me asking:

        1. How many pages does your site have?

        2. How much traffic have you seen coming to your site thus far? Probably not a lot just yet since the site is new.

        3. Notice pages of your site ranking on Google yet or you're not checking?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Yeah I did 6 months ago and I'm getting 4 visitors a day. Zero linkbuilding works great
          One hundred pages of content!
          You know what's funny, I already addressed this comment before it was ever made lol. I said this a couple days ago in another thread:

          "One thing I did notice about most of my threads is those who oppose my way of thinking fall in one of two groups, backlink providers or guys who just find keywords and backlink.
          Another thing I notice was almost every marketer that agrees with me are very successful marketers with great sites.



          I'll let you decide which group you would like to be apart of, btw this is by no means a cheap shot to those that provide backlinking services or to the guys that make small niche sites."

          Looking at your sig I guess we know what group your apart of.

          Originally Posted by brittlesnc View Post

          Nest,

          I'll let you know how it goes because I'm applying the method/strategy to a brand new site in which the content should be ready today or tomorrow...I'll be starting out with around 50 pages or so.

          So once the site has been indexed (which it will probably get indexed fairly quickly) and has been up and running for a week or 2 I'll let you know how it's going.

          Thanks again for the awesome information that you've provided to the WF; it's been very much appreciated.
          Thanx Britt, as always if you need help I'm here for you,let me know how it goes.
          Originally Posted by Carl Brown View Post

          Yes. $9 plus a few days ago and $5 plus yesterday. I created the site when I first started following the threads (maybe 2 weeks ago?).

          I did create one backlink on youtube and that got me one click so far. Other than that, no backlinking.
          I know we been keeping in touch via e-mail and I can tell your on your way. My sites never made money every day so don't worry about daily revenue, but all my sites made a minimum of a hundred a month. Most made more than 125.00.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            One of the first things I learned is that you shouldn't categorize people. Perhaps you should also get off your high chair with your 200 exact search keywords that aren't worth the time investment to go after.
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            • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              200 exact search keywords that aren't worth the time investment to go after.
              I do something similar and do very, very well so I wouldn't say such keywords are not worth the investment.
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                I do something similar and do very, very well so I wouldn't say such keywords are not worth the investment.
                A simple math shows that to make back the costs of the content takes at least 5 months. There are better ROI methods in IM then taking this route.
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                • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  A simple math shows that to make back the costs of the content takes at least 5 months. There are better ROI methods in IM then taking this route.
                  I've been sitting out here in the sun all day at my local cafe and I've banged out about 2 dozen pieces of content all targeting different keywords. At lease half of them are already indexed and ranked on page one. Some are already seeing traffic.

                  Can you show me the math that shows this to be a bad ROI?
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                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                    Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                    I've been sitting out here in the sun all day at my local cafe and I've banged out about 2 dozen pieces of content all targeting different keywords. At lease half of them are already indexed and ranked on page one. Some are already seeing traffic.

                    Can you show me the math that shows this to be a bad ROI?
                    Time = money, doesnt matter whether you sit at a local cafe or not.

                    A good piece of content easily go's for $10,-

                    200 exact searches, let's asssume you land on average at #4 which gets about 5% of the visitors

                    1st spot: 40%
                    2nd spot: 20%
                    3rd spot: 10%
                    4th spot: 5%

                    So you would get 10 visitors a month from this kw, lets multiply it by 2 as you might rank for another kw as well so that are 20 visitors.

                    Assume a 5% CTR and a $1 per click, that would turn into $1/month for a $10 investment. So that is 10 months to break-even.



                    Now lets weight it against linkbuilding and lets take a micro niche client from me who does solid kw research.

                    He pops out a site with 1 page, pays me $15 to rank it, 9 out of 10 times I get him into the top 5. He makes $10/month on that site, paid $5 for the content and $10 for the domain. Total investment $30,- so he breaks-even within 3 months.

                    So not so strange that I am a fan of building links opposed to write tons of content and hope it will rank out of itself. Especially after my experiment with a site that has 100 pages and gets 4 visits a day.
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                    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                      Time = money, doesnt matter whether you sit at a local cafe or not.

                      A good piece of content easily go's for $10,-

                      200 exact searches, let's asssume you land on average at #4 which gets about 5% of the visitors

                      1st spot: 40%
                      2nd spot: 20%
                      3rd spot: 10%
                      4th spot: 5%

                      So you would get 10 visitors a month from this kw, lets multiply it by 2 as you might rank for another kw as well so that are 20 visitors.

                      Assume a 5% CTR and a $1 per click, that would turn into $1/month for a $10 investment. So that is 10 months to break-even.

                      Man...not even close. The graph below is from my newest site (2 week old) with no more than a dozen posts on it. I own several of these. The content on this site took me less than a day to produce.

                      I get roughly a 40% CTR on aff links and a very decent conversion rate. This site has already paid for itself 5 times over.


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                    • Profile picture of the author nest28
                      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                      Time = money, doesnt matter whether you sit at a local cafe or not.

                      A good piece of content easily go's for $10,-

                      200 exact searches, let's asssume you land on average at #4 which gets about 5% of the visitors

                      1st spot: 40%
                      2nd spot: 20%
                      3rd spot: 10%
                      4th spot: 5%

                      So you would get 10 visitors a month from this kw, lets multiply it by 2 as you might rank for another kw as well so that are 20 visitors.

                      Assume a 5% CTR and a $1 per click, that would turn into $1/month for a $10 investment. So that is 10 months to break-even.
                      Why in the world would someone trying rank for a keyword that gets 200 searches a month, I build 100 page sites that rank for a bunch of long tail phrases.

                      All that matters is these sites make money. I pay 400.00 if that, to make a site. In a years time I'll make anywhere from 1,000 to 1,500 , if I sell the site 2,000.


                      There are people who can write there own content, which means all profit.

                      You multiply these figures by 10 and you can start to see how it can be profitable.
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                      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                        Why in the world would someone trying rank for a keyword that gets 200 searches a month, I build 100 page sites that rank for a bunch of long tail phrases.

                        All that matters is these sites make money. I pay 400.00 if that, to make a site. In a years time I'll make anywhere from 1,000 to 1,500 , if I sell the site 2,000.


                        There are people who can write there own content, which means all profit.

                        You multiply these figures by 10 and you can start to see how it can be profitable.
                        I just took 1 page and the costs vs roi of that as example. My post was only to illustrate how long it takes to break-even (not including sites sales value as you also have that when you rank the site with links as less content).

                        @wolfmiii, yes Amazon might be a different case in terms of CTR but you also have the conversion rate at Amazon, 40% of people clicking through to Amazon doesn't mean those 40% will all buy a product. I had Amazon sites before and the buying rate at Amazon itself was about 15% so 40*15 = still around 6%. My calculation above was based on Adsense btw.

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                        • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
                          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                          To wolfmiii, yes Amazon might be a different case indeed.
                          Yes, it definitely is.
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                    • Profile picture of the author Michael Daniels
                      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                      Time = money, doesnt matter whether you sit at a local cafe or not.

                      A good piece of content easily go's for $10,-

                      200 exact searches, let's asssume you land on average at #4 which gets about 5% of the visitors

                      1st spot: 40%
                      2nd spot: 20%
                      3rd spot: 10%
                      4th spot: 5%

                      So you would get 10 visitors a month from this kw, lets multiply it by 2 as you might rank for another kw as well so that are 20 visitors.

                      Assume a 5% CTR and a $1 per click, that would turn into $1/month for a $10 investment. So that is 10 months to break-even.



                      Now lets weight it against linkbuilding and lets take a micro niche client from me who does solid kw research.

                      He pops out a site with 1 page, pays me $15 to rank it, 9 out of 10 times I get him into the top 5. He makes $10/month on that site, paid $5 for the content and $10 for the domain. Total investment $30,- so he breaks-even within 3 months.

                      So not so strange that I am a fan of building links opposed to write tons of content and hope it will rank out of itself. Especially after my experiment with a site that has 100 pages and gets 4 visits a day.
                      GUY YOUR LOGIC IS SO FAR OFF IT SICKNING, YOUR ACTUALLY MAKING YOURSELF LOOK VERY BAD..lol

                      Residual monthly income can't be calculated this way. You are forgeting so much in "your" equation, you should quit while your behind (not ahead) lol

                      Nice plug btw.

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                      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                        Originally Posted by Michael Daniels View Post

                        GUY YOUR LOGIC IS SO FAR OFF IT SICKNING, YOUR ACTUALLY MAKING YOURSELF LOOK VERY BAD..lol

                        Residual monthly income can't be calculated this way. You are forgeting so much in "your" equation, you should quit while your behind (not ahead) lol

                        Nice plug btw.

                        Michael
                        Uhm, this is a comparison between the costs/roi between building links and letting things rank on it's own. I think the residual monthly income counts for both methods don't you think?

                        In fact the links that are builded will help the innerpages rank a lot higher then when you don't build links.

                        Now who is behind here

                        I have a little side thing to say, as mentioned previously I have a website with 100 pages and pretty easy keywords like "Cactus salon". This specific page have been ranking at page 12 for months already. Last week I decided to sprinkle some magic on it to see what would happen.

                        My site is company-reviews.net , it's a very boring site cause I removed the Google images that I borrowed as I didn't want to risk my Adsense account. This specific page now ranks at #3 btw.

                        First I thought the page might not rank cause the content is somewhat crappy. We outsourced it to a not very well writer and had someone from the US proofread it later on. But these links have shown that the page definetly is rankable. So why didn't it rank without those links?

                        See nothing changed post penguin, it's just about building the right links!

                        Here is a little Adwords data for that keyword:

                        [cactus salon]
                        4.400
                        4.400
                        € 1,65
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                        • Profile picture of the author Michael Daniels
                          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                          Now who is behind here
                          Still you... Instead of hijacking this guys quick popularity for your benefit ($profit), why don't u just click "bump" on your thread..?

                          U think people can't figure you out? really?... lol

                          Just saying..(end of discussion) out.

                          Stay cool Nest28

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                          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                            Originally Posted by Michael Daniels View Post

                            Still you... Instead of hijacking this guys quick popularity for your benefit (), why don't u just click "bump" on your thread..?

                            U think people can't figure you out? really?... lol

                            Just saying..(end of discussion) out.

                            Stay cool Nest28

                            Michael Daniels
                            I bumped both of my threads yesterday. Pretty short sighted from you btw.

                            @Nest All this complaining about people who come into this thread about putting down your methods is so ridiculous. No one is putting down your methods, all I said is that it doesn't work out for me and I show it with a little test case.

                            Instead of feeling personal attacked you can also adress the issue as you seem to be the expert on ranking without links here, not me. Perhaps some people can learn a valuable lesson from it. I quit building sites cause I'm to busy so you don't have to answer it for me.
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                            • Profile picture of the author nest28
                              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                              I bumped both of my threads yesterday. Pretty short sighted from you btw.

                              @Nest All this complaining about people who come into this thread about putting down your methods is so ridiculous. No one is putting down your methods, all I said is that it doesn't work out for me and I show it with a little test case.

                              Instead of feeling personal attacked you can also adress the issue as you seem to be the expert on ranking without links here, not me. Perhaps some people can learn a valuable lesson from it. I quit building sites cause I'm to busy so you don't have to answer it for me.
                              You were the first one who posted a comment saying you tried to rank a site without backlinks, you than implied that it wouldn't work.

                              That's like me saying your backlinking service doesn't work ,when I don't know anything about your service. I am no expert on ranking sites without links, my new site will be the first time I attempted something like this, but considering the fact that marketers like fraserc among others have back this theory I think it will work out just fine.


                              As far as complaining goes, I didn't even complain when I lost all of my sites due to the unnatural links notice, but the fact of the matter is I can't even make a thread without somebody having a million negative things to say.

                              Even my most popular thread started off with some guy saying "well is this works why the hell are you telling everyone" not to mention the whole first page of this thread and most others that I've made.
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                              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                                You were the first one who posted a comment saying you tried to rank a site without backlinks, you than implied that it wouldn't work.

                                That's like me saying your backlinking service doesn't work ,when I don't know anything about your service. I am know expert on ranking sites without links, my new site will be the first time I attempted something like this, but considering the fact that marketers like fraserc among others have back this theory I think it will work out just fine.


                                As far as complaining goes, I didn't even complain when I lost all of my sites due to the unnatural links notice, but the fact of the matter is I can even make a thread without somebody having a million negative things to say.

                                Even my most popular thread started off with some guy saying "well is this works why the hell are you telling everyone" not to mention the whole first page of this thread and most others that I've made.
                                It didn't work for me, that's it.

                                About Fraserc, his site is universetoday.com I beleive, he has 1.5 million backlinks. He said he never builded links but one of the Mike's did a backlnk check on his site and found his site mentioned in several directories. The reason people build links to his site is cause it's about an exciting subject, that is a bit diffrerent then all the "buying" keywords together that most people focus on so it's really comparing apples to pears.

                                I admit my first comment in this thread was a bit of a tease sorry I was just in the mood for it
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                              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                                I am no expert on ranking sites without links, my new site will be the first time I attempted something like this, but considering the fact that marketers like fraserc among others have back this theory I think it will work out just fine.
                                Wow this confuses me. You give people advice to write a lot of content as it would rank out of itself but you never tried it yourself yet???

                                OMG is all I have to say.

                                And obvious the page does index but not rank, you need links for that.

                                I am out of these threads!
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                                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                                  Wow this confuses me. You give people advice to write a lot of content as it would rank out of itself but you never tried it yourself yet???

                                  OMG is all I have to say.

                                  And obvious the page does index but not rank, you need links for that.

                                  I am out of these threads!
                                  I never once said that I had tried it, I think everyone who read by old thread knows that I use to backlink but after I receive a penalty for doing so I decided to stop. I tell people not to backlink because of all the penalties involved.

                                  How long do you plan on going on and on about what I do?

                                  Most of my site had under 2,000 backlinks, and the links that had were crappy links, that why I said I think my sites would have ranked regardless, on top of that most of the pages that I receive traffic from had 0 links, I only backlink the home pages.
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                                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                                    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                                    I never once said that I had tried it

                                    I make a full time adsense income without ranking keywords


                                    ?


                                    I beleive that is the title of your other thread, besides that you shouldn't tell people anything when you have no clue what types of backlinks you can build without the risk of getting penalized.

                                    Those spammy backlinks that you build kind of hurted your homepage, but there was still juice in it that lead to the innerpages, and that juice took care of the rankings. If you never builded these spammy links those innerpages would still be at page 5 and beyond. Same like my experiment already proved.

                                    You know whats the difference between you and me? I test things before I talk.
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                                    • Profile picture of the author nest28
                                      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                                      I make a full time adsense income without ranking keywords


                                      ?


                                      I beleive that is the title of your other thread, besides that you shouldn't tell people anything when you have no clue what types of backlinks you can build without the risk of getting penalized.

                                      Those spammy backlinks that you build kind of hurted your homepage, but there was still juice in it that lead to the innerpages, and that juice took care of the rankings. If you never builded these spammy links those innerpages would still be at page 5 and beyond. Same like my experiment already proved.

                                      You know whats the difference between you and me? I test things before I talk.
                                      I'm done talking to you, how you can go on and on and on about what I do is beyond me. I don't even know why I wasted my time even talking to you this long.

                                      To everyone else do what you feel is right, if you think you can backlink without ever being hit with some kind of penalty be my guess. Because of people like niko and many other on this forum I'll be taking a break from wf. It's become a hassle just for me to trying talk to people.
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                                        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                                        I'm done talking to you, how you can go on and on and on about what I do is beyond me. I don't even know why I wasted my time even talking to you this long.

                                        To everyone else do what you feel is right, if you think you can backlink without ever being hit with some kind of penalty be my guess. Because of people like niko and many other on this forum I'll be taking a break from wf. It's become a hassle just for me to trying talk to people.
                                        You think I care about what you do? I care about people who take your advises for granted while there is nothing to back it up and you use misleading titles as you haven't tested a single thing yet.
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                                          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                                            Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                                            Who are you kidding, "I care about people who take your advises".

                                            You only came in this thread to derail it because you seen an opportunity and swooped down like an eagle on a flock of sheep.
                                            Unless you can prove his method wrong but out!!! Where are you going to be when the next Google update comes along and some of your SEO isn't working anymore, I know where nest28 will be, and you'll be scrambling for another backlinking method.

                                            Take that to the BANK!!!

                                            ~Joseph
                                            Another total noob who has no idea what he is talking about.

                                            I already proved a few posts above that content does NOT rank out of itself.

                                            There are a lot better opportunities to promote my linkbuilding services, for example in the Warrior For Hire and Classified Ads section. This thread would be the most silly place to promote my services as it's a noob thread and noobs don't spend money on their websites. They all want it for free, thats why this type of threads run good, but it's one total misunderstanding cause every website builder with a tiny bit of experience knows that this method does not work.

                                            Because certain links don't work anymore for you people it does not mean linkbuilding is dead or will get your site penalized so you're looking for alternatives. And those alternatives don't work, the reality is tough isn't it?

                                            Nest is plain out lieing in his other thread: I MAKE A FULLTIME ADSENSE INCOME WITHOUT RANKING KEYWORDS, while he never even tried it. And you are still defending him. Time for a reality check dont you think?
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                                              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                                                Hmm cause I have a signature link to my salesthread I'm not allowed to post here, makes sense :rolleyes:

                                                Ever thought that I might post here to prevent people from being silly and building sites without doing any kw research or building links, to me it seems pretty hard to get natural links when you show up at page 12.

                                                Could be wrong though
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                                                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                                                    Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

                                                    Why did you remove your last sentence that you have been doing this since 1996.
                                                    Cause I realised it had nothing to do with this subject. And I haven't been doing "this" since 1996, I've been in business since 1996, online was a few years later.

                                                    Btw I could say the same about you and your sig link, this thread attacts noobs and you are giving away a free report, more noobish then that it ain't gonna be.
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                                              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                                              Another total noob who has no idea what he is talking about.
                                              I swear, if you use the word NOOB one more time I'm going to have my 12 year old brother beat you with a fishing pole.
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                                                Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

                                                I swear, if you use the word NOOB one more time I'm going to have my 12 year old brother beat you with a fishing pole.
                                                LOL, ain't making myself popular here, but it's a good thing as I'm way to busy at the moment
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                                                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                                                  LOL, ain't making myself popular here, but it's a good thing as I'm way to busy at the moment
                                                  I see no harm in voicing your disagreement and moving along. This dead horse is so well beaten that its just a bloody heap of hamburger juice.
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  A simple math shows that to make back the costs of the content takes at least 5 months. There are better ROI methods in IM then taking this route.
                  A hundred dollar a month site can be sold for 2,000. Even if I pay 400.00 for articles I still stand to make a 1,600 profit, now is there anything else?
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                    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                    A hundred dollar a month site can be sold for 2,000. Even if I pay 400.00 for articles I still stand to make a 1,600 profit, now is there anything else?
                    And that's if you monetize with just Adsense. If you were to monetize with CPA offers and affiliate products you'd probably make more than $100/month as you're starting to realize from your recent posts on your other threads .

                    Also, I'd rather spend $400 on content for my site than $400 on sketchy backlinking...not saying there's anything wrong with backlinking but with backlinking for competitive keyword phrases it's constant struggle and constant expense...

                    It might take you 4-5 months to get the investment back out of your site (if you just monetize with Adsense) but once you get your investment back it's profit and your expenses will be pretty minimal compared to having to constantly backlink the hell out of your site....
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              • Profile picture of the author nest28
                Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

                I do something similar and do very, very well so I wouldn't say such keywords are not worth the investment.
                See another marketer who agrees and who is also successful, you guys have a choice as to which group you fall in, make the right one.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              One of the first things I learned is that you shouldn't categorize people. Perhaps you should also get off your high chair with your 200 exact search keywords that aren't worth the time investment to go after.
              What do you have against me? You seem offended for some reason, you basically came on here trying to put my methods down, for what?

              The fact that you fall in a category previously set in another thread is not my fault, I call'em like I seem'em.
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                What do you have against me? You seem offended for some reason, you basically came on here trying to put my methods down, for what?

                The fact that you fall in a category previously set in another thread is not my fault, I call'em like I seem'em.
                Did you even read what you wrote down in your last comment?

                First you say people who oppose your techniques are backlink builders or kw researches

                Next you say the people who like your techniques are succesfull marketeers.

                Isn't that the same as saying: People who oppose my techniques are not succesfull marketeers.

                At least that's how its sounded to me!
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                • Profile picture of the author nest28
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  Did you even read what you wrote down in your last comment?

                  First you say people who oppose your techniques are backlink builders or kw researches

                  Next you say the people who like your techniques are succesfull marketeers.

                  Isn't that the same as saying: People who oppose my techniques are not succesfull marketeers.

                  At least that's how its sounded to me!
                  That's how you took it because your a backlink provider, I even said this is not a cheap shot to backlinks providers out there, yet you still took offense.

                  Most people who use backlinking services are noobs who don't know any better.

                  Ask any experience/successful marketer what backlinking service he uses, and see if he doesn't laugh at the thought of using the services on this forum.

                  I really don't want to take it there with you Niko, every time I say something about not backlinking you have something to say.
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                  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                    That's how you took it because your a backlink provider, I even said this is not a cheap shot to backlinks providers out there, yet you still took offense.

                    Most people who use backlinking services are noobs who don't know any better.

                    Ask any experience/successful marketer what backlinking service he uses, and see if he doesn't laugh at the thought of using the services on this forum.

                    I really don't want to take it there with you Niko, every time I say something about not backlinking you have something to say.
                    As a matter of fact I have many succesfull/experienced marketeers as clients as well as professional SEO companies who found me on this forum, and they are they are indeed laughing their ass off cause their clients pay them very well and they only have to pay me a fraction of that.

                    But I get your point, 95% of the services sold here are senukex campaigns.

                    And no, most of the people who buy backlinking services are not noobs. When I look at my own clients it's about 50/50.

                    Now you might think: "Why would they chose you to provide SEO?" Very simple, they can afford too and they are tired of doing it as it's pretty boring.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
                    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                    Most people who use backlinking services are noobs who don't know any better.

                    Ask any experience/successful marketer what backlinking service he uses, and see if he doesn't laugh at the thought of using the services on this forum.
                    This is what compelled me to add my 2 cents. Have you tested all the backlink services on this forum? If not, then it's unfair for you to say that any successful marketer would laugh at the idea.

                    Also, debates are a necessary part of a forum. Without them it would be rather boring and less productive. I've gone out of my way to disagree with Yukon before too. It's nothing personal - perhaps I just like to argue.

                    The irony of this thread is that it seems like no one intended to offend anyone. I ALWAYS listen to what you have to say Nest. And I'm very glad that you're a part of this forum.
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                    • Profile picture of the author nest28
                      Originally Posted by Brendan Mace View Post

                      This is what compelled me to add my 2 cents. Have you tested all the backlink services on this forum? If not, then it's unfair for you to say that any successful marketer would laugh at the idea.

                      Also, debates are a necessary part of a forum. Without them it would be rather boring and less productive. I've gone out of my way to disagree with Yukon before too. It's nothing personal - perhaps I just like to argue.

                      The irony of this thread is that it seems like no one intended to offend anyone. I ALWAYS listen to what you have to say Nest. And I'm very glad that you're a part of this forum.
                      I suppose your right, when I say ask any successful marketer , I mean the ones that constantly make thousands a month, I can't see them relying on backlinking services from the warrior forum.


                      The funny thing is I'm still defending what I said earlier , I have to explain my explanations


                      I'm not use to this forum thing , by nature I'm a shy and private person. When I started my other thread I would never thought it would be so popular.

                      In the future I'll try to have thicker skin.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Michael Daniels
                        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

                        I suppose your right, when I say ask any successful marketer , I mean the ones that constantly make thousands a month, I can't see them relying on backlinking services from the warrior forum.


                        The funny thing is I'm still defending what I said earlier , I have to explain my explanations


                        I'm not use to this forum thing , by nature I'm a shy and private person. When I started my other thread I would never thought it would be so popular.

                        In the future I'll try to have thicker skin.
                        Remember people are judging by what they see, hint hint. You know the deal my man. Keep doing what you do, don't let em get u down. Haters thats all. Get that money!

                        I've been in this business for a minute and know 100 ways to skin a cat, sometimes you give it away for free and leave too little for yourself. Sometimes you have to hold back to the people that deserve your help.

                        But i think your giving away a bit to much and ur too good for this forum Nest (full of "nikos" here bud)
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                • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
                  Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                  Did you even read what you wrote down in your last comment?

                  First you say people who oppose your techniques are backlink builders or kw researches

                  Next you say the people who like your techniques are succesfull marketeers.

                  Isn't that the same as saying: People who oppose my techniques are not succesfull marketeers.

                  At least that's how its sounded to me!
                  You sound like my ex wife, I divorced that bitch....Sandra is that you?.....seriously....come clean.
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                  • Profile picture of the author dml8131
                    Hey Nest

                    I had several small niche sites, and two authority type sites that were making me some money each month. After the this last algo change they all got wiped off the first page for their respective primary keywords. Interestingly enough I am still getting Amazon sales from the LT keywords.

                    It was just at this time I decided to look into developing a large authority site, came upon Nate's WSO and your threads here (left a comment on your first thread) and that solidified my decision to move forward. Then also read Fraser Cranes threads and even more so am inclined to develop a large authority site.

                    I do think it was careless backlinking on my part that got my sites moved to the back of the class. I like your approach, Nate's approach as well as Fraser's as all three are saying the same thing (basically), are showing respectable results, and the fear of the Google slap is greatly reduced.

                    Just my 2 cents.

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                    • Profile picture of the author Dellco
                      I've been applying this method for several sites since months ago. No backlinks, just content to capture longtails.

                      One site that I just slotted Clickbank ads in the sidebar has disappeared from Google a few days after Penguin, and the other ones with NO ads have been doing just fine.

                      I'm still adding content to them slowly. And in the future, I might consider monetization, but from what I've experienced......it's possible that if I put monetization on them, the rankings will drop. More than a few people have been saying the same thing.

                      Google seems to be especially anti-Clickbank these days, moreso than against MFAs.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Nest,

    I'll let you know how it goes because I'm applying the method/strategy to a brand new site in which the content should be ready today or tomorrow...I'll be starting out with around 50 pages or so.

    So once the site has been indexed (which it will probably get indexed fairly quickly) and has been up and running for a week or 2 I'll let you know how it's going.

    Thanks again for the awesome information that you've provided to the WF; it's been very much appreciated.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Nest, I just made a site yesterday and I'm going to follow your plan. I'll keep you updated. I'll be saving a lot of money too because I'll be writing all the content. I have a strong passion for the subject/topic, which will make this project a lot more fun!

    Edit: I sent you a PM a week ago. Please get me back to me when you get the chance.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Nest, I just made a site yesterday and I'm going to follow your plan. I'll keep you updated.

      Edit: I sent you a PM a week ago. Please get me back to me when you get the chance.
      Hey I'm really sorry about not getting back, my inbox fills up fast and sometimes I mistakenly will erase unanswered messages. Please send another message ,also if you haven't made your site yet let me know what topic you choose so I can advise you on the best way to get the job done.
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      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Nest, I just made a site yesterday and I'm going to follow your plan. I'll keep you updated. I'll be saving a lot of money too because I'll be writing all the content. I have a strong passion for the subject/topic, which will make this project a lot more fun!

      Edit: I sent you a PM a week ago. Please get me back to me when you get the chance.
      Hi, Pal!

      I think that I'm going to give Blogger a try as well. I'm not planning on spamming or doing anything that will be offensive so I think that it will work out good. I will use the export blog function, just in case. I do plan on buying my own domain name though.

      Keep in touch and good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Where is the original thread , can you post the link

    Also how do you find these longtails?
    Google kw tool?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      As a matter of fact I have many succesfull/experienced marketeers as clients as well as professional SEO companies who found me on this forum, and they are they are indeed laughing their ass off cause their clients pay them very well and they only have to pay me a fraction of that.

      But I get your point, 95% of the services sold here are senukex campaigns.

      And no, most of the people who buy backlinking services are not noobs. When I look at my own clients it's about 50/50.

      Now you might think: "Why would they chose you to provide SEO?" Very simple, they can afford too and they are tired of doing it as it's pretty boring.
      Ok Niko, I never cared who your clients are, I was simply asking a innocent question before you came on here with you comments.

      Have a great day.
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Where is the original thread , can you post the link

      Also how do you find these longtails?
      Google kw tool?
      Outwest where you been at, that thread has like 10,000 views and is at the top of the forum right now lol jk. Here the link though http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-keywords.html

      Some of the long tail phrase I go after can't be found in any keyword tool,
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  • Profile picture of the author kickmoney
    What's goin on with this nik0 guy?

    Trying to derail a thread to push his stupid SEO services?
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by kickmoney View Post

      What's goin on with this nik0 guy?

      Trying to derail a thread to push his stupid SEO services?
      FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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      Originally Posted by kickmoney View Post

      What's goin on with this nik0 guy?

      Trying to derail a thread to push his stupid SEO services?
      That was absolutely not my intention. The reason I jumped in is to show that content doesn't always ranks out of itself, and then Nest started to make silly comments that backlinkers are not succesfull marketeers.

      And later on to point out that he makes way too many assumptions about things he has no clue about. That's it. Have a nice day everyone
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by kickmoney View Post

        What's goin on with this nik0 guy?

        Trying to derail a thread to push his stupid SEO services?
        I believe it was a simple misunderstanding I even told niko in another thread that I love his attitude about his service and that if I was into backlinking I would use his service. There are no hard feelings.
        Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

        FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
        Now that funny lol
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        Yo Nest, I messaged you. Thanks again bro.
        Got it and sent a reply my friend.
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    Yo Nest, I messaged you. Thanks again bro.
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  • Profile picture of the author kickmoney
    His first remark was all snidey.

    It's like dude feels threatened.

    But what ev's...I'm just passing by anyway. I don't post much.
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      Originally Posted by kickmoney View Post

      His first remark was all snidey.

      It's like dude feels threatened.

      But what ev's...I'm just passing by anyway. I don't post much.
      I don't feel threatened at all, I understand why people start to think that cause of my signature links but that has nothing to do with it. Even before I started to sell seo services I already had this opinion and experience, nothing changed in the meanwhile.

      I just feel frustrated that my site with 100 pages, targetting very easy keywords is still showing up at page 8 to page 12 with as good as zero links. Only few bookmarks if I remember correctly. After the penguin update I went from 2 visitors a day to 4 visitors a day lol.

      I would love it if content would rank out of itself, I even wrote that in another thread lately, but for me it doesn't seem to work out that way so I dont like to see people working their ass off to write content and ending up same like me, with a dead site.

      Also I would not recommend noobs to buy SEO services, first they have to learn to get a grasp of how seo works and how to monetize a site and do kw research in a proper way. I dont have time to do kw research for all my clients with the prices I charge but sometimes I check the kw's and think like OMG why are you buying services from me.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I don't feel threatened at all, I understand why people start to think that cause of my signature links but that has nothing to do with it. Even before I started to sell seo services I already had this opinion and experience, nothing changed in the meanwhile.

        I just feel frustrated that my site with 100 pages, targetting very easy keywords is still showing up at page 8 to page 12 with as good as zero links. Only few bookmarks if I remember correctly. After the penguin update I went from 2 visitors a day to 4 visitors a day lol.

        I would love it if content would rank out of itself, I even wrote that in another thread lately, but for me it doesn't seem to work out that way so I dont like to see people working their ass off to write content and ending up same like me, with a dead site.

        Also I would not recommend noobs to buy SEO services, first they have to learn to get a grasp of how seo works and how to monetize a site and do kw research in a proper way. I dont have time to do kw research for all my clients with the prices I charge but sometimes I check the kw's and think like OMG why are you buying services from me.
        I get it, you personal experience lead you to believe that content is not enough. Just like my personal experience with backlinks lead me to believe I don't them, at least not the ones you can get easy and in volume.

        I would never tell people to do something that doesn't work, there is already enough of that going around.

        I simply said make sites for people, answer their questions, give them a great user experience. All these things are also recommended by Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I just feel frustrated that my site with 100 pages, targetting very easy keywords is still showing up at page 8 to page 12 with as good as zero links. Only few bookmarks if I remember correctly. After the penguin update I went from 2 visitors a day to 4 visitors a day lol.
        Now you don't hear this often but in my opinion the more high quality sites you have in Blogger and the longer the account has been aged, the more trusted your new websites will be when indexed.

        I've got several PR5 domains in my blogger account and everytime I publish a new blog it gets instant credibility, once indexed it ranks high for some pretty hairy keyterms without any backlinks.

        What I would do is fill out your public profile, and put all your blogs on it, then send a torrent of high pagerank links to it and see what happens...
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

          Now you don't hear this often but in my opinion the more high quality sites you have in Blogger and the longer the account has been aged, the more trusted your new websites will be when indexed.

          I've got several PR5 domains in my blogger account and everytime I publish a new blog it gets instant credibility, once indexed it ranks high for some pretty hairy keyterms without any backlinks.

          What I would do is fill out your public profile, and put all your blogs on it, then send a torrent of high pagerank links to it and see what happens...
          Perhaps it's the Blogger thing that gives and advantage, I trust Google as far as I see them, same like you see Youtube video's ranking way too high more often then not. Never heard about torrent high PR links, I am gonna send you a PM about it if you don't mind, don't want to derail this thread further.

          @Nest: Oh come on, don't be so emotional, lots of people love your posts!
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  • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
    There's more than one way to be successful on the internet. Both Niko and Nest have seen success with very different methods. I've used Niko's services before (hopefully that doesn't make me an unsuccessful marketer), and I gained considerable traction in the search engines. It's unfair to make blanket statements about SEO service providers or content publishers. There's gonna be good and bad in both categories.
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  • Profile picture of the author FraserC
    @nest28 - You know this works for me. :-) Furthermore, the arrival of Penguin has been a non-event over at the Keyword Strategy forum, where there are thousands of sites built using your exact strategy.

    Anyone advocating backlinking these days has got to be very very careful about the methods they propose. Essentially, the links you create need to be indistinguishable from the links that would appear naturally. That's not impossible, but it requires a level of care and precision that's extremely difficult to offer with any automated tool.

    I think there are some backlink gurus who are amazing at their job, but honestly, it's too complicated for me. I just focus my efforts on my own website and whatever happens, happens.
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      Originally Posted by FraserC View Post

      @nest28 - You know this works for me. :-) Furthermore, the arrival of Penguin has been a non-event over at the Keyword Strategy forum, where there are thousands of sites built using your exact strategy.

      Anyone advocating backlinking these days has got to be very very careful about the methods they propose. Essentially, the links you create need to be indistinguishable from the links that would appear naturally. That's not impossible, but it requires a level of care and precision that's extremely difficult to offer with any automated tool.

      I think there are some backlink gurus who are amazing at their job, but honestly, it's too complicated for me. I just focus my efforts on my own website and whatever happens, happens.
      I agree that we have to be careful, I just deindexed a very crappy MFA site that belongs to my VA and me. I have to admit that in case of your website it's pretty natural that people link to it cause it's not related to "buyer" keywords but purely informative about a crazy cool subject. I always love to read about the universe. So in this case of content that ranks without having to build links "yourself" it's important to focus the site on something that people like to read about.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    I don't understand why my words keep getting twisted into something totally different than what I meant. I said most of the people who oppose my way of thinking are backlink providers, I never said the people who offer backlink services wasn't successful, nor didi I say their clients were unsuccessful. I meant that people who offer backlinking services feel threaten at the very idea of not needing links or at least the kind you can get easily, and why wouldn't they , they make their living by building links.

    I don't know why so much attention is focused on me and what I say lol, I started this thread just to ask a question and now I find myself explaining every little thing I say.

    I wanted to help people and was even considering building a personal blog to help those who struggle to make money online, but I don't think that is a good idea anymore. I'll focus my efforts on my sites, even thinking about not even posting on the warrior forum.

    I mean look what happen this entire thread is totally off topic now.

    Edit: I know some people may say hey don't let anybody get to you, but it's not like that, I'm just starting to get annoyed by people. Having people constantly push my buttons is something I just don't need.
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    • Profile picture of the author Brendan Mace
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      I don't understand why my words keep getting twisted into something totally different than what I meant. I said most of the people who oppose my way of thinking are backlink providers, I never said the people who offer backlink services wasn't successful, nor didi I say their clients were unsuccessful. I meant that people who offer backlinking services feel threaten at the very idea of not needing links or at least the kind you can get easily, and why wouldn't they , they make their living by building links.

      I don't know why so much attention is focused on me and what I say lol, I started this thread just to ask a question and now I find myself explaining every little thing I say.

      I wanted to help people and was even considering building a personal blog to help those who struggle to make money online, but I don't think that is a good idea anymore. I'll focus my efforts on my sites, even thinking about not even posting on the warrior forum.

      I mean look what happen this entire thread is totally off topic now.
      Nest man,

      I really have no idea why you feel this way. There have been a ton of people that have applauded your efforts on this forum. And a bunch more that are silently digesting everything you have to say in the background.

      You sound like a really cool dude. I had Niko's back because it sounded like peeps were making unfair attacks against SEO providers. Sure, some are terrible, but others are just doing honest work.

      That being said, I agree that this thread has been taken off topic. Perhaps we should continue on discussing your method of making a successful website. Just with the added disclaimer that there are other ways to be successful.

      I have tried ranking micro sites with SEO and I have just started to build larger authority type sites.

      Some of the micro sites were hit by the penguin update, but my larger sites have continued to grow traffic. So although I used to prefer building mini sites, I'm starting to like your business model a lot more.

      THANK YOU for the inspiration to test a different business model that can be successfull, and will most likely be more successful in future google updates.

      Anyone else having success by building larger websites?
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      • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
        Originally Posted by Brendan Mace View Post


        THANK YOU for the inspiration to test a different business model that can be successfull, and will most likely be more successful in future google updates.
        So true.. I'm a bit of a long tail virgin so to speak and usually spam the hell outta the internet with backlinks and crappy sites but I'm actually starting to looking into your methods more..

        If you could help someone then I could definately use it, I've just lost around $3000 of Adsense earnings through spammy backlinks, so that goes to prove if you're still in the game then you are doing something right and the haters have it coming to them.

        I will pay you for a quick coaching lesson on how you build your sites and do your research, if you can show me the ropes I'll do it and prove all the haters wrong..
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by Brendan Mace View Post

        Nest man,

        I really have no idea why you feel this way. There have been a ton of people that have applauded your efforts on this forum. And a bunch more that are silently digesting everything you have to say in the background.

        You sound like a really cool dude. I had Niko's back because it sounded like peeps were making unfair attacks against SEO providers. Sure, some are terrible, but others are just doing honest work.

        That being said, I agree that this thread has been taken off topic. Perhaps we should continue on discussing your method of making a successful website. Just with the added disclaimer that there are other ways to be successful.

        I have tried ranking micro sites with SEO and I have just started to build larger authority type sites.

        Some of the micro sites were hit by the penguin update, but my larger sites have continued to grow traffic. So although I used to prefer building mini sites, I'm starting to like your business model a lot more.

        THANK YOU for the inspiration to test a different business model that can be successfull, and will most likely be more successful in future google updates.

        Anyone else having success by building larger websites?
        I know there are plenty of ways to make money online, I have always said that I'm just offering another way. When ever I say anything on the forum its only to help, but some how some way I always get pulled into a debate.

        I just can't figure out why so many people have a problem with me, Yukon could say something and not have a single person attack him, I say one thing and 3 or 4 people will come out of nowhere like nope your wrong , that's not true lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    I think it's fair to say that a healthy mix of both quality content and backlinks are ideal for a website but Nests method doesn't break Google's TOS, but if you spam your sites, whether with SenukeX, High PR Links or other services like ones included on this forum then there might just be that chance that one day Google will catch up with you and smack your ass hard, so it's your choice, take the risk for quick gains or live knowing you played by the rules.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

      I think it's fair to say that a healthy mix of both quality content and backlinks are ideal for a website but Nests method doesn't break Google's TOS, but if you spam your sites, whether with SenukeX, High PR Links or other services like ones included on this forum then there might just be that chance that one day Google will catch up with you and smack your ass hard, so it's your choice, take the risk for quick gains or live knowing you played by the rules.
      The thing is people seem to have a extremely short attention span, there are plenty of people who got hit by the unnatural links notice, who lost their sites and came on the forum cursing the name Google.

      Before that people who were link to any kind of blog networks got hit.

      Now google's new algo targets links it would consider to be spam, yet we still say hey let's backlink.

      Backlinks have been the downfall of so many marketers lately, they've lost everything all because they didn't learn their lesson.


      Here are the facts I use to make 2,100 a month now I make 0 a month.
      Why did that happen you say, because I built backlinks to my site even though google say's not to.

      Now let's do a recap not only did I lose 2,100 a month but also all the money I ever spent on bmr posts,bmr service,seo services and seo software all went down the drain.

      So why would I be like hey let me build new sites and backlink to them, and next thing you new I post a thread like aww man I been hit with another penalty , back to the drawing board.

      Also it's funny when people say that got hit by this recent algo, and be like I don't know why , I built good links. When you not suppose to build any links.


      My goal is to do like Fraser said and build a site I can see myself working on 10 yrs from now.

      I'm done explaining myself, I know I'm on the right path because respectable,successful marketers hop on my threads and back what I say, the same can't be said for those who oppose this way of building sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    i just started my site for my local country 5 days ago nest, hope i can get a few traffic soon.

    actually i have started building site targeting global audience following your way on the first time i read your 1st thread but i still waiting for my paypal account to get restored to pay for content. paypal just scammed my $400 ugh!!

    edit:
    for my site that i built to targeting global audience, im targeting health niche no keyword specific, just health tips. and i use branded domain name with not keyword at all, no "health" word on it. is that ok? or i lead into wrong path?

    and 1 more thing.. just ignore them, who don't like your method nest. answering them just make this thread full with unnecessary info. many people (including me) need your input/suggestion and they not.

    and yeah, guess what? almost everyday i look into your profile just to make sure i can know immediately when you make a new useful thread
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    Don't trip bro. I got you Nest! Haha. Probably the only thread(s) that I found something useful ever since the downfall of BMR.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      i just started my site for my local country 5 days ago nest, hope i can get a few traffic soon.

      actually i have started building site targeting global audience following your way on the first time i read your 1st thread but i still waiting for my paypal account to get restored to pay for content. paypal just scammed my $400 ugh!!

      edit:
      for my site that i built to targeting global audience, im targeting health niche no keyword specific, just health tips. and i use branded domain name with not keyword at all, no "health" word on it. is that ok? or i lead into wrong path?

      and 1 more thing.. just ignore them, who don't like your method nest. answering them just make this thread full with unnecessary info. many people (including me) need your input/suggestion and they not.

      and yeah, guess what? almost everyday i look into your profile just to make sure i can know immediately when you make a new useful thread
      Your right answering only gives them power, thank you ,every time I get fed up one of you guys always says something to make me feel better. Having somebody say they check my profile to see when I'll post a new thread is crazy I never knew I made that big of an impression on people.

      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Don't trip bro. I got you Nest! Haha. Probably the only thread(s) that I found something useful ever since the downfall of BMR.
      Thanx I appreciate it, helping you with your navigation has been on my mind since you first showed me your site, I came down with flu or something just a few hours ago but soon as I feel better I'll show everyone how to change the navigation in blogger and edit the template.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Thanx I appreciate it, helping you with your navigation has been on my mind since you first showed me your site, I came down with flu or something just a few hours ago but soon as I feel better I'll show everyone how to change the navigation in blogger and edit the template.
        Yeah it's complete 180 for me from wordpress to blogger. I'm already lost with the static pages that you mentioned for the about and the privacy! lol.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Yeah it's complete 180 for me from wordpress to blogger. I'm already lost with the static pages that you mentioned for the about and the privacy! lol.


          As soon as I feel better I'll make a vid showing how to use static pages with those custom templates.
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          • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
            Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

            How to Create Static Pages in Blogger Blog - YouTube


            As soon as I feel better I'll make a vid showing how to use static pages with those custom templates.

            With the static pages, will that disable the adsense on that particular page? Or that shouldn't really matter? I just don't want to get my account banned.
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    anyway... what your suggestion about my site??
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  • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
    Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

    I just notice that even my thread titles are always long lol. Has anybody made money from a new site using the questions for post title method, or seen even a small amount of success. I've had 4 people tell they made 4 dollars here and 6 dollars there from new sites. Some people are just adding this method to existing sites.

    Honestly I'm just want to do a follow up, a lot of so called gurus give a method and leave you high and dry, not that I'm calling myself a guru or anything.


    Have you notice traffic coming to your site from long tail phrase/questions?
    Your thread titles are certainly long. Your like a longtail machine buddy :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Rafay Zafar
    nest and niko are both correct but they offer a different perspective - nest being a webmaster/publisher whereas a niko is primarily an seo provider. I suppose i do a little bit of both so i can offer some perspective from both sides.

    as a publisher you are really chasing traffic more than rankings. In fact that's how advertising space is sold - CPM. As a publisher there is nothing to be sold to the visitors so you are not really worried about rankings on specific keywords. Your goal is to get as much traffic as possible and rack up those page-views

    as an seo provider you are really chasing rankings on a few dozen major/buyer keywords - trying to beat the competition more than anything. clients love ranking reports and therefore, an seo's main job is to get the site up there for the target keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author outwest
    Why use blogger if its your own domain?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Why use blogger if its your own domain?
      I like blogger.
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      • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
        Blogger rocks!

        No fiddling around for hours on end with buggy plugins..
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    • Profile picture of the author WareTime
      Originally Posted by outwest View Post

      Why use blogger if its your own domain?
      You can pay HG or one of the others hosts 10$ a month and have pretty much unlimited domains hosted there, plus your domain reg fee of $10 or so.

      Pay Blogger $10 and that's it for the domain and hosting. Either way you still have your domain hosting fee.

      With blogger
      1. You don't need to worry about getting hacked all you need to do is write content.
      2. No plugins to mess with.
      3. SEO'd out of the box. I'm pretty sure googlebot can crawl blogger effectively.
      4. Incredibly easy to monetize, especially with Adsense.

      I'd say blogger is for the person that wants to build a site, not tinker with 101 plug-ins and hope that they all work when you upgrade wordpress to apply the newest patch to fix the security holes that are inherent in the base product, not to mention the themes and plugins with there own security products. (one of my best runon sentences in a long time if I do say so myself)

      Some will argue you need to control your site and google could close up blogger or your site. Well, if you're writing a site for users, you don't need to worry. If you are worried, make an export of your site which is easy to do and you can always import to wordpress if you decide you want to battle security holes and upgrades.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    A $400 investment hoping to make $2000 in a year if you're lucky? How many hours do you spend creating these 100 page sites - got to be at least 30 hours I assume, at the minimum? I value my time at a minimum of $30 per hour so to me that would only leave me with a $700 profit in a year, while taking a rather large risk.

    I mean keep doing whatever works for you, but personally I don't build a site unless I think it will make me at least $5000 profit in 6 months time.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      With the static pages, will that disable the adsense on that particular page? Or that shouldn't really matter? I just don't want to get my account banned.
      There is away to have adsense show only on post pages and the home page.

      Originally Posted by Ashera View Post

      A $400 investment hoping to make $2000 in a year if you're lucky? How many hours do you spend creating these 100 page sites - got to be at least 30 hours I assume, at the minimum? I value my time at a minimum of $30 per hour so to me that would only leave me with a $700 profit in a year, while taking a rather large risk.

      I mean keep doing whatever works for you, but personally I don't build a site unless I think it will make me at least $5000 profit in 6 months time.
      I do what works for me, why are you implying that if I make money from my sites, its luck. You have thread on how your successful using amazon right, did I hop on your thread dissecting your methods, no I didn't but for some reason everybody has something to say about how I make my money.

      My methods continue to evolve , 3 months down line I probably will have move on to something better, I'm say this one more time , I offer this as another option for all the imer's out there.

      I'm not selling anything, just sharing info.


      There are marketers out there advising people to make 100 mfa niche sites yet every one has something to say about me making sites that help people, if everybody that has something to say about my methods offered another option and went in full details like I have that would be great maybe I might learn something new myself.

      Also what risk are you talking about.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        There is away to have adsense show only on post pages and the home page.



        I do what works for me, why are you implying that if I make money from my sites, its luck. You have thread on how your successful using amazon right, did I hop on your thread dissecting your methods, no I didn't but for some reason everybody has something to say about how I make my money.

        My methods continue to evolve , 3 months down line I probably will have move on to something better, I'm say this one more time , I offer this as another option for all the imer's out there.

        I'm not selling anything, just sharing info.


        There are marketers out there advising people to make 100 mfa niche sites yet every one has something to say about me making sites that help people, if everybody that has something to say about my methods offered another option and went in full details like I have that would be great maybe I might learn something new myself.

        Also what risk are you talking about.
        Nest28, don't worry about it man, I'm not sure why people always want to jump on others when they share how they earn money, that's messed up.

        You do what works for you, If it makes money now, double it next time & keep on going...

        If you never intend on selling the sites, blogger is fine. Heck I still have the very first site I ever built on blogspot (5+ years old), earns money still today, If it pays the bills I could care less what it's hosted on.

        I also have a few self hosted WP sites, but I would be crazy to give up FREE recurring money on those old blogspot sites, they'll have to ban me before I give up those sites & I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    Nest, I'm a backlinker who is very intrigued by your efforts. I plan to pursue your strategy with some light backlinking I can do on my own.

    I'd just ignore the haters.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Nest28, don't worry about it man, I'm not sure why people always want to jump on others when they share how they earn money, that's messed up.

      You do what works for you, If it makes money now, double it next time & keep on going...

      If you never intend on selling the sites, blogger is fine. Heck I still have the very first site I ever built on blogspot (5+ years old), earns money still today, If it pays the bills I could care less what it's hosted on.

      I also have a few self hosted WP sites, but I would be crazy to give up FREE recurring money on those old blogspot sites, they'll have to ban me before I give up those sites & I doubt that'll happen anytime soon.
      Thank you, it means a lot to me to have some of the most popular personalities on the wf come to my aide. This entire thread is just so off topic from what I was hoping for.

      Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

      Nest, I'm a backlinker who is very intrigued by your efforts. I plan to pursue your strategy with some light backlinking I can do on my own.

      I'd just ignore the haters.
      I'm trying my best. Good luck with your sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I'm trying my best. Good luck with your sites.
        The first site was a WP site I wasn't sure I wanted to do, but you're posts got my butt in gear and its finally starting to get built. I merged many of your methods with my own and I combined Amazon with Adsense and have made a sales from both so far. I have you to thank for that!

        However, I also just completed keyword research using your method EXACTLY and created a Blogspot domain for this purpose. I have about 120 long tail keywords identified, about 25-30% of which are not in Google's Keyword tool, but I just expanded upon keywords I did find by adding the "How to" or "What is" at the beginning.

        I will definitely share my results too, since you apparently need more credibility. lol
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

          The first site was a WP site I wasn't sure I wanted to do, but you're posts got my butt in gear and its finally starting to get built. I merged many of your methods with my own and I combined Amazon with Adsense and have made a sales from both so far. I have you to thank for that!

          However, I also just completed keyword research using your method EXACTLY and created a Blogspot domain for this purpose. I have about 120 long tail keywords identified, about 25-30% of which are not in Google's Keyword tool, but I just expanded upon keywords I did find by adding the "How to" or "What is" at the beginning.

          I will definitely share my results too, since you apparently need more credibility. lol
          Thank you, I'm glad things are going well for you and yes please keep me updated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Ashera
    Nest, you need to take it easy. You are so defensive against anyone who even questions your "method". I wasn't attacking you and didn't mean any harm - like I said keep doing whatever works for you. This is not "your thread". Unless you pay for a WSO or Warriors For Hire thread my opinion is still valid everywhere I choose to post it as long as I follow the rules of this forum.

    Enjoy the rest of your day.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Nest, I've decided to give your method a try.

    I started out with Blogger, but then got a WSO on how to do self-hosted Wordpress blogs. Soon, I had a bunch of them. I started ranking them with just content alone for about 6 months. Then I made the mistake of using BMR. I never did any blasts or anything else. It was a stupid move to use BMR as I was never trying to rank keywords to begin with and 90% of my traffic came from long tail searches.

    Well, of course Google was angry about my BMR links and I lost all of my traffic just when I started to make some good Adsense income. My best site disappeared before Penguin hit on April 14. I'm guessing that I would have received an unnatural links message if I had analytics installed on my blog.

    I've done a lot of thinking lately. I'm a good researcher and content writer. I thought that I should just give up trying to make money with Adsense and start writing Kindle books and ebooks to sell.

    But now I'm thinking that I will pull off my content from my penalized websites and move them to Blogger blogs. Then I'll cancel my hostgator accounts and just use Blogger. It won't cost anything except a few domain names and I've already got a lot of usable content.

    And then I'll see what happens with Blogger and also do some Kindle writing.

    Do you know if duplicate content is an issue with Blogger? How do you nofollow/noindex tags?

    Also, the new blog I started on Blogger seems like it is taking forever to index. Does Google take longer to index new blogs or is it because it only has 10 posts right now?

    Thanks for all of the great information, Nest.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Michael Daniels View Post

      Remember people are judging by what they see, hint hint. You know the deal my man. Keep doing what you do, don't let em get u down. Haters thats all. Get that money!

      I've been in this business for a minute and know 100 ways to skin a cat, sometimes you give it away for free and leave too little for yourself. Sometimes you have to hold back to the people that deserve your help.

      But i think your giving away a bit to much and ur too good for this forum Nest (full of "nikos" here bud)
      Your right about that, I've had so many people trying say this wont work and that wont work, I know it works because I've done it over and over.

      People have a problem with the fact that I don't backlink.

      The fact that I use blogger

      They think a 100 article is to much work for to little return

      and the list goes on and than they wonder why I get a little defensive, it's to the point where I feel like their trying to put me down not my methods.



      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Nest, I've decided to give your method a try.

      I started out with Blogger, but then got a WSO on how to do self-hosted Wordpress blogs. Soon, I had a bunch of them. I started ranking them with just content alone for about 6 months. Then I made the mistake of using BMR. I never did any blasts or anything else. It was a stupid move to use BMR as I was never trying to rank keywords to begin with and 90% of my traffic came from long tail searches.

      Well, of course Google was angry about my BMR links and I lost all of my traffic just when I started to make some good Adsense income. My best site disappeared before Penguin hit on April 14. I'm guessing that I would have received an unnatural links message if I had analytics installed on my blog.

      I've done a lot of thinking lately. I'm a good researcher and content writer. I thought that I should just give up trying to make money with Adsense and start writing Kindle books and ebooks to sell.

      But now I'm thinking that I will pull off my content from my penalized websites and move them to Blogger blogs. Then I'll cancel my hostgator accounts and just use Blogger. It won't cost anything except a few domain names and I've already got a lot of usable content.

      And then I'll see what happens with Blogger and also do some Kindle writing.

      Do you know if duplicate content is an issue with Blogger? How do you nofollow/noindex tags?

      Also, the new blog I started on Blogger seems like it is taking forever to index. Does Google take longer to index new blogs or is it because it only has 10 posts right now?

      Thanks for all of the great information, Nest.
      Is it a custom domain or regular blogspot, in my experience custom domains get indexed really fast, while blogspot.com's need to be backlink to for the same results.
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    • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Nest, I've decided to give your method a try.

      I started out with Blogger, but then got a WSO on how to do self-hosted Wordpress blogs. Soon, I had a bunch of them. I started ranking them with just content alone for about 6 months. Then I made the mistake of using BMR. I never did any blasts or anything else. It was a stupid move to use BMR as I was never trying to rank keywords to begin with and 90% of my traffic came from long tail searches.

      Well, of course Google was angry about my BMR links and I lost all of my traffic just when I started to make some good Adsense income. My best site disappeared before Penguin hit on April 14. I'm guessing that I would have received an unnatural links message if I had analytics installed on my blog.

      I've done a lot of thinking lately. I'm a good researcher and content writer. I thought that I should just give up trying to make money with Adsense and start writing Kindle books and ebooks to sell.

      But now I'm thinking that I will pull off my content from my penalized websites and move them to Blogger blogs. Then I'll cancel my hostgator accounts and just use Blogger. It won't cost anything except a few domain names and I've already got a lot of usable content.

      And then I'll see what happens with Blogger and also do some Kindle writing.

      Do you know if duplicate content is an issue with Blogger? How do you nofollow/noindex tags?

      Also, the new blog I started on Blogger seems like it is taking forever to index. Does Google take longer to index new blogs or is it because it only has 10 posts right now?

      Thanks for all of the great information, Nest.
      You will need to wait until the content from your old websites are removed from Google's cache before you add them to your new Blogger website. That way you never have to worry about it.

      Unless I misunderstood what you were asking. (it has been known to happen)
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      • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
        Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

        You will need to wait until the content from your old websites are removed from Google's cache before you add them to your new Blogger website. That way you never have to worry about it.

        Unless I misunderstood what you were asking. (it has been known to happen)
        Thanks. How long does it take to get out of Google's cache? I was thinking of just deleting all of the posts on the penalized site, waiting a week or so, and then putting them up on the new site.

        When I search the articles on Copyscape premium, the only thing that shows up is the article excerpt on my site's home page. None of the actual full articles show up in Copyscape.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

        You will need to wait until the content from your old websites are removed from Google's cache before you add them to your new Blogger website. That way you never have to worry about it.

        Unless I misunderstood what you were asking. (it has been known to happen)
        You do not have to wait till the old content is out of Google's cache. It will dissapear out of itself. We tested it on a penalized page, renamed it and builded links to it right away, it took about a week till the page ranked on the first page again and it took 2 weeks before the old page was disappeared out of the index. So don't waste your time.
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        • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          You do not have to wait till the old content is out of Google's cache. It will dissapear out of itself. We tested it on a penalized page, renamed it and builded links to it right away, it took about a week till the page ranked on the first page again and it took 2 weeks before the old page was disappeared out of the index. So don't waste your time.
          But won't Google penalize the new site for duplicate content?
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

            But won't Google penalize the new site for duplicate content?
            No it won't, there are many people who use article syndication with the goal to get backlinks. Article syndication is about the same piece of content that gets distributed at many sites. Another example are press releases, they work very well and it's just 1 piece of content at a 100 or more sites.

            One time I just copied a clickbank sales letter and the ranking was a bit stubborn but that piece of content was used tons of times, when it only shows up once at your old site and once at your new there is nothing wrong with that.
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            • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              No it won't, there are many people who use article syndication with the goal to get backlinks. Article syndication is about the same piece of content that gets distributed at many sites. Another example are press releases, they work very well and it's just 1 piece of content at a 100 or more sites.

              One time I just copied a clickbank sales letter and the ranking was a bit stubborn but that piece of content was used tons of times, when it only shows up once at your old site and once at your new there is nothing wrong with that.
              I'm still nervous that Google will associate the content with the penalized site and take down my new site. But I guess it won't matter anyway because I'm going to be using the same Adsense ID.
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              • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
                Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

                I'm still nervous that Google will associate the content with the penalized site and take down my new site. But I guess it won't matter anyway because I'm going to be using the same Adsense ID.
                I've been waiting for two weeks for some old content to be removed from Google's cache....I apparently am waiting for nothing. haha

                I guess I'm just ultra conservative.
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Nest28, are you going to reuse the content from your penalized sites on your new sites? It seems like it would be such a waste of money not to put those articles back up on new blogs.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

      Nest28, are you going to reuse the content from your penalized sites on your new sites? It seems like it would be such a waste of money not to put those articles back up on new blogs.
      I tried it didn't work, the content got index but didn't rank.
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      • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I tried it didn't work, the content got index but didn't rank.
        Why do you think those articles don't rank? Do you think that Google knew they were recycled articles from your penalized sites? I'm wondering if its a good idea to put up my old content on the new site. Maybe I should just start over and write different articles.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by JeanneLynn View Post

          Why do you think those articles don't rank? Do you think that Google knew they were recycled articles from your penalized sites? I'm wondering if its a good idea to put up my old content on the new site. Maybe I should just start over and write different articles.
          Jeanne don't waste your time by even thinking about writing different articles. The content will reindex and will rank, if you don't help it in anyway it will take longer indeed. That's just normal. But if you just build a few good links then it will rank in no time. Even while the other page is still indexed.

          Don't let you get fooled by wisdom that is based on nothing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    Me too had applied long tail keyword - I get rank easily with few backlinks, but comparatively low traffic, I guess I could have gone for some better keyword.
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  • Profile picture of the author brittlesnc
    Well from the PMs and on the threads he created Nest gave me the impression that he was ranking his pages BEFORE he started backlinking and that the only reason why he started backlinking was to keep some of those pages ranking (I guess he was worried they'd drop in rank)...but that he wishes he had never built backlinks to those pages in the first place because that's what led to them tanking in rankings...

    And he feels that the pages would've held the rankings without backlinks...I guess sometimes it doesn't pay to fix what "ain't" broken...

    But Nest can clarify if I got that wrong....
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Here is an example of what I advise people to do, take info from Google analytic and write a article about it.

    There were 23 searches for "can ultrasound technician prescribe medicine" so I made a article on it and I receive traffic, not much only around 30 visits since I first posted the article but it's something, once you get up to 100 article you start to see that 30 here 40 there are adding up.

    Here is a site with 0 backlinks and ranking for the term "can ultrasound technicians prescribe medicine" www - Google Search

    My site is my ultrasound technician information, a site that I'm no longer interestd in working on.


    Edit: I know I'm suppose to be taking a break from the forum but I just couldn't listen to this guy go on about how my methods don't work. I don't know what 100 page site you made but it's not my fault it was a failure.

    Also in my other thread I said I use article marketing,fiverr gigs,social bookmarkings etc, I never once said I rank sites without backlinks, it wasn't until I was hit with the unnatural links notice that I started telling people to stop backlinking to their sites.

    You sure are spending a lot of time trying to prove me wrong, and making yourself look really bad in the process. I see now that your willing to go all the way lol, if I post to defend myself you post and make another accusation.

    Your all about drama, nothing about you seems professional and I feel sorry for your clients.

    I also said that a lot of the terms you will go after can't be found in any keyword tool. I will trust my own analytic data over his adword data any day.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Here is another one including the Google Adwords data:

    [can ultrasound technician prescribe medicine]
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    [strong grip doral tires]
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    My site ranks at #1 for strong grip doral tires, and that page had 0 backlinks as well.

    Google Search

    Have fun with those kw's!
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  • Profile picture of the author KeNiQ
    I'm following your plan now as we speak. I'll keep you updated on the progress
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    • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
      I see this thread ranking #1 for "can ultrasound technician(s) prescribe medication."

      Oh well, they'll just have to settle for #2.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by DynoMutt View Post

        I see this thread ranking #1 for "can ultrasound technician(s) prescribe medication."

        Oh well, they'll just have to settle for #2.
        My site was 1 just few minutes ago lol.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

            The only problem with that keyword is that it gets 0 searches using GKT.
            Keyword tools are wrong, if you were to check your own analytic I'm sure you would see the same reoccurring terms that if check in gkt would give you a 0.


            I just checked the term "can I become a ultrasound technician with a ged" gkt said this term gets 0 searches yet I had visitor use this term over and over to get to my old ultrasound site.


            Check you analytic and see for yourself, look at a term that people use to get to your site a couple time than check gkt.

            Yahoo answers also backs me up on this, there are plenty of terms on there that if you check gkt will give you a 0, but if nobody at all searches for this term why would it be on yahoo answers.

            I think google leave out search phrases with low search volume, but all of my sites have been based on this logic and all made the 100.00 minimum ,there were no failures.

            Also you will see my new site at the bottom of the page for that search term, again this site has no backlinks.

            I was able to make these sites by going after terms others thought unworthy, most marketers dont care about going after terms that will get them just a few visitors here and there, but I'm telling you they add up.

            I make up for lack of volume by using high cpc keywords, if I had used keyword that only got 15cent a click this method would never work.
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          • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
            Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

            The only problem with that keyword is that it gets 0 searches using GKT.
            GKT does not display all keywords. I run into this a lot when doing keyword research into smaller cities of the 50,000 population size. I don't know why, but I do know it is true.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Yeah it's a fact that Google Adwords is wrong, I have one very big client and all his keywords show like 0 or <10 searches a month, but still he is after these kw's and he does pretty well, and when I look at the keywords and use logic sense I know there are definetly people typing in those words and not just a lucky shot now and then.

      @CeilBlue: I can't give away all my secrets, too many copycats around
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  • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
    oh well.. this thread is OOT now.. and i didn't receive any advice about my site.
    ok niko, we understand, nest method is noob and won't work. that's it.
    just make another thread about your method, and noob like me will be happy to read yours.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by joseph7384 View Post

      I do see random searches in analytics but they are mostly one hit wonders of course it can be different with your keywords but I don't have data on them since they are not in my niche.

      I make nothing but information sites so most of my traffic comes in the form of questions, Ex how long do I have to go to school to become a nurse , this is common for me to see in my analytics.

      Originally Posted by ceilbleu View Post

      oh well.. this thread is OOT now.. and i didn't receive any advice about my site.
      ok niko, we understand, nest method is noob and won't work. that's it.
      just make another thread about your method, and noob like me will be happy to read yours.
      Sorry about that like I said this thread went totally off topic, just send me a pm.
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      • Profile picture of the author ceilbleu
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I make nothing but information sites so most of my traffic comes in the form of questions, Ex how long do I have to go to school to become a nurse , this is common for me to see in my analytics.



        Sorry about that like I said this thread went totally off topic, just send me a pm.
        i can't send you any pm, i just create this account and need 50 post to be able to sent pm. i have sent you a message on your fb. please check it
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  • Profile picture of the author JeanneLynn
    Nest, I love the Yahoo answers idea. I love Yahoo answers. It'll be fun research! You should write an ebook of your ideas!
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  • Profile picture of the author eezymoney
    This thread got hijacked by people hating on Nest's ideas and methods - lets get back on track.... it would be great to hear peoples results, that has been following and applying the Nest28 method.
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  • Profile picture of the author carrotdogs
    Some people need to grow up
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      This thread defiantly went off course, but I would like to know if anybody is making large niche sites with longtail posts as titles. My latest site didn't do well, and I'm not sure why, something is wrong with it but idk what.


      For some reason it doesn't rank for most long tail kywords but some how ranks for this make full time income without ranking keywords , which was the very first post on that site, I just made it to see what the homepage would look like with a post on it, than I deleted it 2 seconds later.

      Its 4th position down, mymedtech blogspot.
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