I'm curious to know if anyone has applied my long tail method and made any money from adsense.

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I just notice that even my thread titles are always long lol. Has anybody made money from a new site using the questions for post title method, or seen even a small amount of success. I've had 4 people tell they made 4 dollars here and 6 dollars there from new sites. Some people are just adding this method to existing sites.

Honestly I'm just want to do a follow up, a lot of so called gurus give a method and leave you high and dry, not that I'm calling myself a guru or anything.


Have you notice traffic coming to your site from long tail phrase/questions?
#search engine optimization #adsense #applied #curious #long #made #method #money #tail
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    Yeah I did 6 months ago and I'm getting 4 visitors a day. Zero linkbuilding works great
    One hundred pages of content!
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    • Yes. $9 plus a few days ago and $5 plus yesterday. I created the site when I first started following the threads (maybe 2 weeks ago?).

      I did create one backlink on youtube and that got me one click so far. Other than that, no backlinking.
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  • Nest,

    I'll let you know how it goes because I'm applying the method/strategy to a brand new site in which the content should be ready today or tomorrow...I'll be starting out with around 50 pages or so.

    So once the site has been indexed (which it will probably get indexed fairly quickly) and has been up and running for a week or 2 I'll let you know how it's going.

    Thanks again for the awesome information that you've provided to the WF; it's been very much appreciated.
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  • Nest, I just made a site yesterday and I'm going to follow your plan. I'll keep you updated. I'll be saving a lot of money too because I'll be writing all the content. I have a strong passion for the subject/topic, which will make this project a lot more fun!

    Edit: I sent you a PM a week ago. Please get me back to me when you get the chance.
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    • Hey I'm really sorry about not getting back, my inbox fills up fast and sometimes I mistakenly will erase unanswered messages. Please send another message ,also if you haven't made your site yet let me know what topic you choose so I can advise you on the best way to get the job done.
    • Hi, Pal!

      I think that I'm going to give Blogger a try as well. I'm not planning on spamming or doing anything that will be offensive so I think that it will work out good. I will use the export blog function, just in case. I do plan on buying my own domain name though.

      Keep in touch and good luck!
  • Where is the original thread , can you post the link

    Also how do you find these longtails?
    Google kw tool?
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    • Ok Niko, I never cared who your clients are, I was simply asking a innocent question before you came on here with you comments.

      Have a great day.
      Outwest where you been at, that thread has like 10,000 views and is at the top of the forum right now lol jk. Here the link though http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-keywords.html

      Some of the long tail phrase I go after can't be found in any keyword tool,
  • What's goin on with this nik0 guy?

    Trying to derail a thread to push his stupid SEO services?
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    • FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
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      That was absolutely not my intention. The reason I jumped in is to show that content doesn't always ranks out of itself, and then Nest started to make silly comments that backlinkers are not succesfull marketeers.

      And later on to point out that he makes way too many assumptions about things he has no clue about. That's it. Have a nice day everyone
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  • Yo Nest, I messaged you. Thanks again bro.
  • His first remark was all snidey.

    It's like dude feels threatened.

    But what ev's...I'm just passing by anyway. I don't post much.
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      I don't feel threatened at all, I understand why people start to think that cause of my signature links but that has nothing to do with it. Even before I started to sell seo services I already had this opinion and experience, nothing changed in the meanwhile.

      I just feel frustrated that my site with 100 pages, targetting very easy keywords is still showing up at page 8 to page 12 with as good as zero links. Only few bookmarks if I remember correctly. After the penguin update I went from 2 visitors a day to 4 visitors a day lol.

      I would love it if content would rank out of itself, I even wrote that in another thread lately, but for me it doesn't seem to work out that way so I dont like to see people working their ass off to write content and ending up same like me, with a dead site.

      Also I would not recommend noobs to buy SEO services, first they have to learn to get a grasp of how seo works and how to monetize a site and do kw research in a proper way. I dont have time to do kw research for all my clients with the prices I charge but sometimes I check the kw's and think like OMG why are you buying services from me.
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  • There's more than one way to be successful on the internet. Both Niko and Nest have seen success with very different methods. I've used Niko's services before (hopefully that doesn't make me an unsuccessful marketer), and I gained considerable traction in the search engines. It's unfair to make blanket statements about SEO service providers or content publishers. There's gonna be good and bad in both categories.
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  • @nest28 - You know this works for me. :-) Furthermore, the arrival of Penguin has been a non-event over at the Keyword Strategy forum, where there are thousands of sites built using your exact strategy.

    Anyone advocating backlinking these days has got to be very very careful about the methods they propose. Essentially, the links you create need to be indistinguishable from the links that would appear naturally. That's not impossible, but it requires a level of care and precision that's extremely difficult to offer with any automated tool.

    I think there are some backlink gurus who are amazing at their job, but honestly, it's too complicated for me. I just focus my efforts on my own website and whatever happens, happens.
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      I agree that we have to be careful, I just deindexed a very crappy MFA site that belongs to my VA and me. I have to admit that in case of your website it's pretty natural that people link to it cause it's not related to "buyer" keywords but purely informative about a crazy cool subject. I always love to read about the universe. So in this case of content that ranks without having to build links "yourself" it's important to focus the site on something that people like to read about.
  • I don't understand why my words keep getting twisted into something totally different than what I meant. I said most of the people who oppose my way of thinking are backlink providers, I never said the people who offer backlink services wasn't successful, nor didi I say their clients were unsuccessful. I meant that people who offer backlinking services feel threaten at the very idea of not needing links or at least the kind you can get easily, and why wouldn't they , they make their living by building links.

    I don't know why so much attention is focused on me and what I say lol, I started this thread just to ask a question and now I find myself explaining every little thing I say.

    I wanted to help people and was even considering building a personal blog to help those who struggle to make money online, but I don't think that is a good idea anymore. I'll focus my efforts on my sites, even thinking about not even posting on the warrior forum.

    I mean look what happen this entire thread is totally off topic now.

    Edit: I know some people may say hey don't let anybody get to you, but it's not like that, I'm just starting to get annoyed by people. Having people constantly push my buttons is something I just don't need.
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    • Nest man,

      I really have no idea why you feel this way. There have been a ton of people that have applauded your efforts on this forum. And a bunch more that are silently digesting everything you have to say in the background.

      You sound like a really cool dude. I had Niko's back because it sounded like peeps were making unfair attacks against SEO providers. Sure, some are terrible, but others are just doing honest work.

      That being said, I agree that this thread has been taken off topic. Perhaps we should continue on discussing your method of making a successful website. Just with the added disclaimer that there are other ways to be successful.

      I have tried ranking micro sites with SEO and I have just started to build larger authority type sites.

      Some of the micro sites were hit by the penguin update, but my larger sites have continued to grow traffic. So although I used to prefer building mini sites, I'm starting to like your business model a lot more.

      THANK YOU for the inspiration to test a different business model that can be successfull, and will most likely be more successful in future google updates.

      Anyone else having success by building larger websites?
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  • I think it's fair to say that a healthy mix of both quality content and backlinks are ideal for a website but Nests method doesn't break Google's TOS, but if you spam your sites, whether with SenukeX, High PR Links or other services like ones included on this forum then there might just be that chance that one day Google will catch up with you and smack your ass hard, so it's your choice, take the risk for quick gains or live knowing you played by the rules.
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    • The thing is people seem to have a extremely short attention span, there are plenty of people who got hit by the unnatural links notice, who lost their sites and came on the forum cursing the name Google.

      Before that people who were link to any kind of blog networks got hit.

      Now google's new algo targets links it would consider to be spam, yet we still say hey let's backlink.

      Backlinks have been the downfall of so many marketers lately, they've lost everything all because they didn't learn their lesson.


      Here are the facts I use to make 2,100 a month now I make 0 a month.
      Why did that happen you say, because I built backlinks to my site even though google say's not to.

      Now let's do a recap not only did I lose 2,100 a month but also all the money I ever spent on bmr posts,bmr service,seo services and seo software all went down the drain.

      So why would I be like hey let me build new sites and backlink to them, and next thing you new I post a thread like aww man I been hit with another penalty , back to the drawing board.

      Also it's funny when people say that got hit by this recent algo, and be like I don't know why , I built good links. When you not suppose to build any links.


      My goal is to do like Fraser said and build a site I can see myself working on 10 yrs from now.

      I'm done explaining myself, I know I'm on the right path because respectable,successful marketers hop on my threads and back what I say, the same can't be said for those who oppose this way of building sites.
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  • i just started my site for my local country 5 days ago nest, hope i can get a few traffic soon.

    actually i have started building site targeting global audience following your way on the first time i read your 1st thread but i still waiting for my paypal account to get restored to pay for content. paypal just scammed my $400 ugh!!

    edit:
    for my site that i built to targeting global audience, im targeting health niche no keyword specific, just health tips. and i use branded domain name with not keyword at all, no "health" word on it. is that ok? or i lead into wrong path?

    and 1 more thing.. just ignore them, who don't like your method nest. answering them just make this thread full with unnecessary info. many people (including me) need your input/suggestion and they not.

    and yeah, guess what? almost everyday i look into your profile just to make sure i can know immediately when you make a new useful thread
  • Don't trip bro. I got you Nest! Haha. Probably the only thread(s) that I found something useful ever since the downfall of BMR.
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    • Your right answering only gives them power, thank you ,every time I get fed up one of you guys always says something to make me feel better. Having somebody say they check my profile to see when I'll post a new thread is crazy I never knew I made that big of an impression on people.

      Thanx I appreciate it, helping you with your navigation has been on my mind since you first showed me your site, I came down with flu or something just a few hours ago but soon as I feel better I'll show everyone how to change the navigation in blogger and edit the template.
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  • anyway... what your suggestion about my site??
  • Your thread titles are certainly long. Your like a longtail machine buddy :-)
  • nest and niko are both correct but they offer a different perspective - nest being a webmaster/publisher whereas a niko is primarily an seo provider. I suppose i do a little bit of both so i can offer some perspective from both sides.

    as a publisher you are really chasing traffic more than rankings. In fact that's how advertising space is sold - CPM. As a publisher there is nothing to be sold to the visitors so you are not really worried about rankings on specific keywords. Your goal is to get as much traffic as possible and rack up those page-views

    as an seo provider you are really chasing rankings on a few dozen major/buyer keywords - trying to beat the competition more than anything. clients love ranking reports and therefore, an seo's main job is to get the site up there for the target keywords.
  • Why use blogger if its your own domain?
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    • I like blogger.
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    • You can pay HG or one of the others hosts 10$ a month and have pretty much unlimited domains hosted there, plus your domain reg fee of $10 or so.

      Pay Blogger $10 and that's it for the domain and hosting. Either way you still have your domain hosting fee.

      With blogger
      1. You don't need to worry about getting hacked all you need to do is write content.
      2. No plugins to mess with.
      3. SEO'd out of the box. I'm pretty sure googlebot can crawl blogger effectively.
      4. Incredibly easy to monetize, especially with Adsense.

      I'd say blogger is for the person that wants to build a site, not tinker with 101 plug-ins and hope that they all work when you upgrade wordpress to apply the newest patch to fix the security holes that are inherent in the base product, not to mention the themes and plugins with there own security products. (one of my best runon sentences in a long time if I do say so myself)

      Some will argue you need to control your site and google could close up blogger or your site. Well, if you're writing a site for users, you don't need to worry. If you are worried, make an export of your site which is easy to do and you can always import to wordpress if you decide you want to battle security holes and upgrades.
  • A $400 investment hoping to make $2000 in a year if you're lucky? How many hours do you spend creating these 100 page sites - got to be at least 30 hours I assume, at the minimum? I value my time at a minimum of $30 per hour so to me that would only leave me with a $700 profit in a year, while taking a rather large risk.

    I mean keep doing whatever works for you, but personally I don't build a site unless I think it will make me at least $5000 profit in 6 months time.
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    • There is away to have adsense show only on post pages and the home page.

      I do what works for me, why are you implying that if I make money from my sites, its luck. You have thread on how your successful using amazon right, did I hop on your thread dissecting your methods, no I didn't but for some reason everybody has something to say about how I make my money.

      My methods continue to evolve , 3 months down line I probably will have move on to something better, I'm say this one more time , I offer this as another option for all the imer's out there.

      I'm not selling anything, just sharing info.


      There are marketers out there advising people to make 100 mfa niche sites yet every one has something to say about me making sites that help people, if everybody that has something to say about my methods offered another option and went in full details like I have that would be great maybe I might learn something new myself.

      Also what risk are you talking about.
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  • Nest, I'm a backlinker who is very intrigued by your efforts. I plan to pursue your strategy with some light backlinking I can do on my own.

    I'd just ignore the haters.
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    • Thank you, it means a lot to me to have some of the most popular personalities on the wf come to my aide. This entire thread is just so off topic from what I was hoping for.

      I'm trying my best. Good luck with your sites.
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  • Nest, you need to take it easy. You are so defensive against anyone who even questions your "method". I wasn't attacking you and didn't mean any harm - like I said keep doing whatever works for you. This is not "your thread". Unless you pay for a WSO or Warriors For Hire thread my opinion is still valid everywhere I choose to post it as long as I follow the rules of this forum.

    Enjoy the rest of your day.
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  • Nest, I've decided to give your method a try.

    I started out with Blogger, but then got a WSO on how to do self-hosted Wordpress blogs. Soon, I had a bunch of them. I started ranking them with just content alone for about 6 months. Then I made the mistake of using BMR. I never did any blasts or anything else. It was a stupid move to use BMR as I was never trying to rank keywords to begin with and 90% of my traffic came from long tail searches.

    Well, of course Google was angry about my BMR links and I lost all of my traffic just when I started to make some good Adsense income. My best site disappeared before Penguin hit on April 14. I'm guessing that I would have received an unnatural links message if I had analytics installed on my blog.

    I've done a lot of thinking lately. I'm a good researcher and content writer. I thought that I should just give up trying to make money with Adsense and start writing Kindle books and ebooks to sell.

    But now I'm thinking that I will pull off my content from my penalized websites and move them to Blogger blogs. Then I'll cancel my hostgator accounts and just use Blogger. It won't cost anything except a few domain names and I've already got a lot of usable content.

    And then I'll see what happens with Blogger and also do some Kindle writing.

    Do you know if duplicate content is an issue with Blogger? How do you nofollow/noindex tags?

    Also, the new blog I started on Blogger seems like it is taking forever to index. Does Google take longer to index new blogs or is it because it only has 10 posts right now?

    Thanks for all of the great information, Nest.
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    • Your right about that, I've had so many people trying say this wont work and that wont work, I know it works because I've done it over and over.

      People have a problem with the fact that I don't backlink.

      The fact that I use blogger

      They think a 100 article is to much work for to little return

      and the list goes on and than they wonder why I get a little defensive, it's to the point where I feel like their trying to put me down not my methods.



      Is it a custom domain or regular blogspot, in my experience custom domains get indexed really fast, while blogspot.com's need to be backlink to for the same results.
    • You will need to wait until the content from your old websites are removed from Google's cache before you add them to your new Blogger website. That way you never have to worry about it.

      Unless I misunderstood what you were asking. (it has been known to happen)
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  • Nest28, are you going to reuse the content from your penalized sites on your new sites? It seems like it would be such a waste of money not to put those articles back up on new blogs.
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    • I tried it didn't work, the content got index but didn't rank.
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  • Me too had applied long tail keyword - I get rank easily with few backlinks, but comparatively low traffic, I guess I could have gone for some better keyword.
  • Well from the PMs and on the threads he created Nest gave me the impression that he was ranking his pages BEFORE he started backlinking and that the only reason why he started backlinking was to keep some of those pages ranking (I guess he was worried they'd drop in rank)...but that he wishes he had never built backlinks to those pages in the first place because that's what led to them tanking in rankings...

    And he feels that the pages would've held the rankings without backlinks...I guess sometimes it doesn't pay to fix what "ain't" broken...

    But Nest can clarify if I got that wrong....
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  • Here is an example of what I advise people to do, take info from Google analytic and write a article about it.

    There were 23 searches for "can ultrasound technician prescribe medicine" so I made a article on it and I receive traffic, not much only around 30 visits since I first posted the article but it's something, once you get up to 100 article you start to see that 30 here 40 there are adding up.

    Here is a site with 0 backlinks and ranking for the term "can ultrasound technicians prescribe medicine" www - Google Search

    My site is my ultrasound technician information, a site that I'm no longer interestd in working on.


    Edit: I know I'm suppose to be taking a break from the forum but I just couldn't listen to this guy go on about how my methods don't work. I don't know what 100 page site you made but it's not my fault it was a failure.

    Also in my other thread I said I use article marketing,fiverr gigs,social bookmarkings etc, I never once said I rank sites without backlinks, it wasn't until I was hit with the unnatural links notice that I started telling people to stop backlinking to their sites.

    You sure are spending a lot of time trying to prove me wrong, and making yourself look really bad in the process. I see now that your willing to go all the way lol, if I post to defend myself you post and make another accusation.

    Your all about drama, nothing about you seems professional and I feel sorry for your clients.

    I also said that a lot of the terms you will go after can't be found in any keyword tool. I will trust my own analytic data over his adword data any day.
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    Here is another one including the Google Adwords data:

    [can ultrasound technician prescribe medicine]
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    [strong grip doral tires]
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    My site ranks at #1 for strong grip doral tires, and that page had 0 backlinks as well.

    Google Search

    Have fun with those kw's!
  • I'm following your plan now as we speak. I'll keep you updated on the progress
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    • I see this thread ranking #1 for "can ultrasound technician(s) prescribe medication."

      Oh well, they'll just have to settle for #2.
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      Yeah it's a fact that Google Adwords is wrong, I have one very big client and all his keywords show like 0 or <10 searches a month, but still he is after these kw's and he does pretty well, and when I look at the keywords and use logic sense I know there are definetly people typing in those words and not just a lucky shot now and then.

      @CeilBlue: I can't give away all my secrets, too many copycats around
  • oh well.. this thread is OOT now.. and i didn't receive any advice about my site.
    ok niko, we understand, nest method is noob and won't work. that's it.
    just make another thread about your method, and noob like me will be happy to read yours.
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    • I make nothing but information sites so most of my traffic comes in the form of questions, Ex how long do I have to go to school to become a nurse , this is common for me to see in my analytics.

      Sorry about that like I said this thread went totally off topic, just send me a pm.
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  • Nest, I love the Yahoo answers idea. I love Yahoo answers. It'll be fun research! You should write an ebook of your ideas!
  • This thread got hijacked by people hating on Nest's ideas and methods - lets get back on track.... it would be great to hear peoples results, that has been following and applying the Nest28 method.
  • Some people need to grow up
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    • This thread defiantly went off course, but I would like to know if anybody is making large niche sites with longtail posts as titles. My latest site didn't do well, and I'm not sure why, something is wrong with it but idk what.


      For some reason it doesn't rank for most long tail kywords but some how ranks for this make full time income without ranking keywords , which was the very first post on that site, I just made it to see what the homepage would look like with a post on it, than I deleted it 2 seconds later.

      Its 4th position down, mymedtech blogspot.
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    I'm curious to know if anyone has applied my long tail method and made any money from adsense.

    I just notice that even my thread titles are always long lol. Has anybody made money from a new site using the questions for post title method, or seen even a small amount of success. I've had 4 people tell they made 4 dollars here and 6 dollars there from new sites. Some people are just adding this method to existing sites. Honestly I'm just want to do a follow up, a lot of so called gurus give a method and leave you high and dry, not that I'm calling myself a guru or anything.