Page Rank? It's a joke or what?

15 years ago

Page rank has no effect if you had poor content, I also know a lot of people having low PR websites but successful in their niche, but anyways it can also increase traffic by putting your website in the first page of search engines.

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Oling

15 years ago

I have the same opinion as geyser does. As long as you have quality content on your web pages you will have people willing to click or buy and if you have high PR then if definitely helps to be on first page.

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Brad Fisher 15 years ago

Provide good content makes sense to me.
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gadget_man

15 years ago

As you say, serps is a lot more important when to comes to attracting visitors and hence revenue. PR is becoming more and more unreliable with every update.

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StevenSaliba

15 years ago

What is PR exactly? Is it the spot you are on google for, for certain keyword(s)

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dburk 15 years ago

PR has very little impact on SERP. It's just a relative count of links to your page and says nothing about how relevant those links are to your page.

Relevance is a key factor in SERP and PR is just a count with almost no impact on SERP. A single link with high relevance from incoming links can be worth more than a 1000 irrelevant links. If you focus on quality (in terms of relevance) you will achieve far more than if you simply focus on quantity.
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reapr

15 years ago

PR is the deciding factor though if all else is equal.
Too many variables, backlinks, content etc.

It still is easy to rank above a high PR site with great content if theirs is lacking. Many times I have been able to rank as a PR0-3 over a 4 or five just because they lack content and back links.
Do your homework and you will notice that this is often the case.

It is a good thing to take note of PR when going up against the competition but do not overlook linkage and content it is often easy to knock a weak site off page one of the serps if they think PR will keep them there.

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Sam Mlambo

15 years ago

So good quality content is important, ok got it!

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jayden.fellze

15 years ago

Yeah.. a good quality content and service will give you rmore success in your venture. good luck.

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jonvex 15 years ago

Originally Posted by jayden.fellze

Yeah.. a good quality content and service will give you rmore success in your venture. good luck.

Originally Posted by Kiackee

So good quality content is important, ok got it!

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tommen

15 years ago

I have seen sites with PR 0 who rank very well on Google with the most competitive keywords, it´s all about good quality content.

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nata_sha

15 years ago

It helps a great deal if in future you are looking to sell your domain or links at your site (ahem) ... so no, PR is no joke by any means

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MarQueteer 15 years ago

Originally Posted by nata_sha

It helps a great deal if in future you are looking to sell your domain or links at your site (ahem) ... so no, PR is no joke by any means

That's the only thing PR is good for, selling it to others who believe it's good for anything...but it's not really a long term business I'd rely on.
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techno

15 years ago

yes Google Page Rank is not more effect on website ranking.. there are two different types of thinks.. page rank is another factor and site ranking is another factor. Ranking is depends on webpage contents i.e Onpage optimization and some factors of offpage optimization..

I have seen most of the sites with PR 0, PR 1... who rank very well in Google search engine with the most competitive keywords, it´s all about good quality content.

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Franck Silvestre

15 years ago

Guys, what I am trying to make you understand is that you Shouldn't waste your time with PR.

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nata_sha

15 years ago

And what i m trying to make you realize is that for some online businesses PR do matter ,so they have got all the reasons to spend time on Page Rank enhancement.

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thesslstore 15 years ago

PR and SERP both are important in seo. Link building tactic is really helps for increase pr and good serp.
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affiliated survivor

15 years ago

I think PR is important. Of course relevancy is also important. An extreme example: A site about cars will never rank on a search page about weight loss. Not even with PR 10.

But that does not mean PR is not important. You don´t get PR for nothing. Usually a site with high PR is a strong site with many backlinks. PR is an indication how strong a site is.

If I´m ranking on a search page and someone behind me has a higher PR, the reason for this is that I´m probably more relevant. But thanks to his high PR his page is on that search page and, thanks to his high PR, he gets visitors from that seach page.

On the search page where his webpage is very relevant, his high PR will help him to win from his, also very relevant, competitors.

So I think that PR is still important.

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Franck Silvestre

15 years ago

PR doesn't have much to see with high rankings in the search engines.

As for the indication of how strong a site is... for me, how strong a site is means how much money it brings in the bank.

Don't waste time with this and make money.

Originally Posted by affiliated survivor

I think PR is important. Of course relevancy is also important. An extreme example: A site about cars will never rank on a search page about weight loss. Not even with PR 10.

But that does not mean PR is not important. You don´t get PR for nothing. Usually a site with high PR is a strong site with many backlinks. PR is an indication how strong a site is.

If I´m ranking on a search page and someone behind me has a higher PR, the reason for this is that I´m probably more relevant. But thanks to his high PR his page is on that search page and, thanks to his high PR, he gets visitors from that seach page.

On the search page where his webpage is very relevant, his high PR will help him to win from his, also very relevant, competitors.

So I think that PR is still important.

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zoobie

15 years ago

Yeah I do agree, Page rank doesn't mean much, SERP is more meaningful.

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nata_sha

15 years ago

As for the indication of how strong a site is... for me, how strong a site is means how much money it brings in the bank.

Don't waste time with this and make money.

Can't you see, for some PR is the source for "more" money in the bank. It definitely is.

And since the techniques of getting a high PR and higher placement in SERP are somewhat similar, I don't mean what do you mean by "wasting time with PR"

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Franck Silvestre

15 years ago

Your first sentence is definitively true.

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But for the second one, I don't think that PR has anything to do with rankings.

Please give me a proof of what you are claiming.

Here is mine:

I'm on Google first page for the keyword 'affiliate marketing' for two almost 2 years now, and I have a PR of 2. Do you know hoe much people pay to be on this position with Adwords?

As for wasting time with PR, I don't.

Please back up your claim with a real life seo proof, and another proof that PR brings cash in the bank for YOU.

If you can, I'll give you not 1, but 2 of my ebooks. If you can't, no worries.

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Franck

Originally Posted by nata_sha

Can't you see, for some PR is the source for "more" money in the bank. It definitely is.

And since the techniques of getting a high PR and higher placement in SERP are somewhat similar, I don't mean what do you mean by "wasting time with PR"

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AverageGuy

15 years ago

PR is Page Rank. But it is NOT webpage rank as many people think. It is google's founder, Mr. Page, who developed the algorithm to evaluate the importance of a site. That's why the rank is called Page Rank.

It is the core part of google ranking algorithm. However, as time goes on, people realize how backlinks can manipulate the PR, google changed their ranking with more variables. But, PR is still a very important # for the importance of a site in google's database.

Of course, high PR does not mean more traffic, and does not mean more sales. But a good PR means your site has a better chance to be ranked higher in google's search result, and has a better chance to get more sales.

It is "chance", it is up to your site whether can grab the chance to make $.

I agree, PR should not be the goal, more sales should be.

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But for the second one, I don't think that PR has anything to do with rankings.

Please give me a proof of what you are claiming.

Here is mine:

I'm on Google first page for the keyword 'affiliate marketing' for two almost 2 years now, and I have a PR of 2. Do you know hoe much people pay to be on this position with Adwords?

As for wasting time with PR, I don't.

Please back up your claim with a real life seo proof, and another proof that PR brings cash in the bank for YOU.

If you can, I'll give you not 1, but 2 of my ebooks. If you can't, no worries.

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Franck Silvestre

15 years ago

What do you mean???

Give me a proof for that.

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Originally Posted by plutoscript

NO I disagree with you. SEO high rank PRs are very Nice. It helps to increase the websites PR

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nata_sha

15 years ago

Point 1 is actually a no brainer, for example ... so many websites still buy links, what do you see when you are thinking of buying a link from some website? (Age and PR)

Point 2, yes the techniques are somewhat similar, how do you place yourself higher in SERP's ? Any idea? A back link works for both (Pr and SERP) ... you don't need to work on them separately

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goodmast3r

15 years ago

PR is important. It is the one that determine SERP. I think many people doesn't understand the benefit of it. Consider your website have pagerank 4 and targeting the keyword 'stock guide' but you didn't got any that keyword on your page so you are not listed on top and maybe not listed.

If you have pagerank 1 and your competitor had PR 4 for the keyword 'stock guide' which will rank higher? It depends on the code on the page, and the backlinks it receives. If it is equal, then PR will determine who is higher.

Just my thought

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dome28

15 years ago

Well its not always about Rank for sure sometimes is product or the Rank and sometimes combination of both

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beckyrubecca 15 years ago

Having a good page rank is never a bad thing.

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Mike Adams

15 years ago

There is a good quote that applies here. "When there is a gold rush but not much gold, you can always make money selling shovels". So when your page is not making you as much as you use to, you can always "sell" your pagerank by selling direct dofollow links from your site.

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Franck Silvestre

15 years ago

Yes, in this case, it can make some dollars.

Originally Posted by BlackBookProject

There is a good quote that applies here. "When there is a gold rush but not much gold, you can always make money selling shovels". So when your page is not making you as much as you use to, you can always "sell" your pagerank by selling direct dofollow links from your site.

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- Malcolm Tindle 15 years ago
  
  Hi,
  
  I tend to agree with some others in this post that page rank is everything when you start off in this business but after a while you realise that content is more important than PR.
  
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  dmderoeck 15 years ago
  
  I personally don't get it when people say PR doesn't matter much or worse yet, meaningless.
  
  Pagerank is one of many factors. Is it a direct indicator of how much traffic you'll see? Maybe not, but in the bigger picture, it is a measurement used by G of popularity and overall health of your site. Should it consume you? No, but IMO attaining a good pagerank should be a goal of any IM-er or Webmaster in order to keep you in the game for the long haul.
  
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  Franck Silvestre 15 years ago
  
  If you think that page rank is that important, what can I tell you?
  
  I hope you'll sell a lot of links.
  
  All the best,
  
  Franck
  
  PS. By the way, I advise that you concentrate on making MORE money...
  
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  No, but IMO attaining a good pagerank should be a goal of any IM-er or Webmaster in order to keep you in the game for the long haul.
  
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Franck Silvestre

15 years ago

I agree, you said it best...

Originally Posted by seoguider1

PR doesn't have much to see with high rankings in the search engines.

As for the indication of how strong a site is... for me, how strong a site is means how much money it brings in the bank.But PR is actually calculate as the number of link to your website ....it do not have to do anything with your content and all...

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JaradN

15 years ago

Pagerank is still a reasonable indication of the competitiveness of a search term, and the difficulty ranking for that phrase. I wouldn't place much value in PR for any other purpose however

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krishananda

15 years ago

As the OP said, don't concentrate most on PR, but you still need to consider it, won't hurt you anyway to gain PR.

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Suhaana

15 years ago

I have a client N/a Pagerank but great business .. another client in same niche page rank 2 but lesser business. I have website good SERP with 35 keywords and 0 pagerank.. I really feel what's parameter behind it or just another Google Monoploy System over Amazon?

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Mike Adams

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Suhaana

I really feel what's parameter behind it or just another Google Monoploy System over Amazon?

Dont quite know what that means, but PageRank is a model of a random surfer who gets bored after several clicks and switches to a random page. The PageRank value of a page reflects the chance that the random surfer will land on that page by clicking on a link.

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Franck Silvestre

15 years ago

You are spot on.

The only use of PR is if you are selling links...

Franck

Originally Posted by BlackBookProject

Dont quite know what that means, but PageRank is a model of a random surfer who gets bored after several clicks and switches to a random page. The PageRank value of a page reflects the chance that the random surfer will land on that page by clicking on a link.

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Bruce Hearder

15 years ago

A lot of people a High PR = High Traffic

The two are completely unrelated.

The forumala for PR (in a nut shell) is almost entirely depened on the number of incoming links and the PR of those incoming links.. Nothing what so-ever to do with traffic..

Most of my High PR sites make less than my PR0 sites.

But its it have some high PR sites that I sell links from..

Easy money!!

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Web-Design-Company

15 years ago

Page rank may not have a direct impact on your search engine ranking and resulting traffic. However page rank does have some advantages. Page rank is often useful in adding credibility to your website in some ways. If you have a higher page rank it is usually easier for other websites and blogs to link to yours.