Looking for a SERIOUS Mentor

I agree with that. Even when someone is offering you free mentoring, much of the time they will have some sort of a hidden fee.

Even if you have to invest some money for this type of training, it will be the best investment you will ever make in my view.

Dont tar everyone with the same brush.

I recently mentored someone through their very successful WSO and it didnt cost them a penny.

Yeah SEO is a very expensive road to go down :rolleyes:

They answered it for you. As you stated, money is going to be an issue so I'm assuming you don't have the resources to pay for a top notch mentor.

Instead, you need to think of things that you will be able to do to benefit the potential mentor, and offer to work under them (for free would probably be best). Use the tasks you are given and the information you can glean from them and apply it to your own business strategy.

You'll get much more traction (and benefit) that way over just telling someone they need to help you here.

Best of luck.

i think there is no free ,, there is a lot of good mentor here , you can easy to find in WSO,, but the average price is high,,

Whatever they tell you to do. It is literally an online unpaid internship. How do you learn the ins and outs of a business? Work under someone who already did it and take the important lessons that the grunt work can teach you.

Your new best friend:

Search

Why not take a quality course that teaches you the ropes step by step? It would be much less expensive than a 1on1 mentor and often these courses have forums with the support of other members. I know of several that are excellent.

May I add that since Google search traffic is freeee and SEO is not exactly difficult (read: easy) once you get the hang of it, it'll be foolish to stay away from them for fear of algorithm changes.

The key, as mentioned, is not depending on them primarily. What's a smart marketer to do then?

Funnel search engine traffic into mailing lists, so that you have a bullet proof vest should the unthinkable happen.

Money's in the ....?

Typical misunderstanding of SEO from people in the main board (You can always tell when a thread has been moved from there)

SEM is not a business model no more than radio advertising is a business model or Television or Print. SEO presents an ADVERTISING model. SO can you build a business on top of SEO? Yes - very comfortably and safely.

Provided you have the business model to work with your advertising.

Any business that goes down the tubes when it no longer is advertising is one that does not create repeat customers/traffic. Alexa's argument that if you rely on Google as a means of advertising your company it makes you dependent on it is only true if in fact you have no legit business model. In which case who cares? Its not a legit business anyway.

What company advertising in any medium would not flourish having 200 new potential customers everyday walking through its doors for 6 months? So what if the advertising falls off in 6 months? Wouldn't a viable business have converted thousands of its visitors into paying clients and repeat traffic?

ALl people who say this are addressing is frankly the Adsense situation and some affiliate marketing where there is no business model but converting and never retaining Google traffic. Most adsense and affiliate marketing guys/gals don't build anything that people would want to return for so they have no customer retention at all.

Which is why I have and and will continue to say that ADSENSE sucks as a business model but that has nothing to do with SEO sucking as an advertising model.

Examples (I stopped after page 3) are here, here, here, here, here, here, and here .

Man the word "here" looks weird after you type it so many times.

If you are serious about learning this business it will cost you quite a bit of money to hire a really good mentor to coach you - and even more money for one on one coaching. If you can afford it, however, this is the best way to learn.

Im going to thank you soley for that picture alone...serious cat!!! hahahahaha

Could you PM me your email? I can't PM yet, but I'll gladly drop you an email.

Wow! Way to pay it forward John! I would have given anything to have someone talk to me when I was first trying to figure this whole thing out!
What a great opportunity to fast forward through all of the crap to get to the good stuff that actually works!

Sadly you were one of the few who appreciated it

I stopped giving free advice when I learned most people don't take free advice because they don't have any skin in the game.

These days I just cant justify stopping to help people like I used to. I am glad to see you pay it forward man

I'm no longer allowed to call myself a doctor. They said my bedside manner was too horrendous.

Do you actually know what SEO is? Maybe start there. That education is free.

Unless ignoring the potential for organic traffic altogether, how does one design/build a website without understanding SEO 'stuff' in the first place. That would be akin to building an airplane without understanding the dynamics of flight (stuff).

SEO is a constantly changing dynamic. If you want to exploit organic traffic you will need to first understand it. It might take you a day to get an in depth understanding. After that, you need to learn the tricks of the trade which are changing constantly.

SEO is a field where you actually have to do the work.

Asking for a mentor is not about taking shortcuts sundown. Mentors are not themselves shiny objects.

The main point of having a mentor is having someone to help steer you in the right direction, keep you motivated, direct you to the correct resources when you need to learn something and having someone on hand to ask questions of when you have doubts, when you need clarification on something and to help you avoid wasting time and money on the wrong things............like the next shiny object which may or may not be (usually is) worthless

The overall theme of this thread seems to be (not in all cases) fairly hostile to someone who is just asking for guidance through what we all know can be a minefield of half truths and expensive pitfalls.

Hello All,

Please excuse if I offend or otherwise...I'm new to the forum etiquette...I think the real question should be what is your ultimate goal? To build your email list, increase revenues, engage more users for exposure or more page views for your brand...

...There's more than 1 way to skin a cat...as we all know, but you should be spending your time on activities that's going to bring you closer to your ultimate goal...such as seeking out JV partners with a free (evergreen) report/s (WIIFM) to build your list or creating an evergreen product/s to create affiliates (Clickbank, paydotcom etc...) in order to add profits to your bottom line.

There are individuals out there that have figured out the traffic process and if you can tap into these sources with something of value (which I'm sure was mentioned earlier in this post), then you can start putting notches on your belt...try to figure out 20 ways to bring traffic to your site, instead of focusing on 1 problem...

...But I would consider going the extra mile by providing something of value to offer those that have figured out the traffic getting process...also consider writing articles, I know it's time consuming, but if you don't have much of a budget then this is way to start to at least get your name out there and refine you writing skills as well.

Where is your market hanging out at? Are they reading ezines, newsletters,forums,blogs etc...Have you considered creating banners and doing banner exchanges with potential partners (blogs) that's servicing your market?

There's a lot more productive things you can do,then worrying about SEO...this is a time consuming process and takes a bit of time to even see results. (As I'm sure everyone here is aware of...)

If you're getting traffic now by other means...are you tracking what action is being taken with your offers? Are they buying, opting in to your list? Have you tried multiple offers? What are you numbers? Because if you haven't figured out the numbers game, then this would be a good place to start as well.

Sorry to be long winded, but there's a lot more to consider, then just SEO... seek out experts who've been there and done that, maybe interview these people to service your list and educate them and yourself, while building relationships along the way.

I could be completely wrong, but if I can be service in any way, please don't hesitate to email me...I'm not an expert by any means..I'm simply offering my opinion...no pun intended...you may need re-focus thinking...because a mentor may not be the answer for you at this time. Get intimate with your market and you can't go wrong.

Ultimately it comes down to your market (servicing your market) and your goals.

But all in all...GO THE EXTRA MILE!...It'll pay off in the long run.

P.S. Remember...this is a numbers game, whether we like it or not.

You might check out Chris Farrel's membership site. It's a massive site with lots of training.

Hello All,

Please excuse if I offend or otherwise...I'm new to the forum etiquette...I think the real question should be what is your ultimate goal? To build your email list, increase revenues, engage more users for exposure or more page views for your brand...

...There's more than 1 way to skin a cat...as we all know, but you should be spending your time on activities that's going to bring you closer to your ultimate goal...such as seeking out JV partners with a free (evergreen) report/s (WIIFM) to build your list or creating an evergreen product/s to create affiliates (Clickbank, paydotcom etc...) in order to add profits to your bottom line.

There are individuals out there that have figured out the traffic process and if you can tap into these sources with something of value (which I'm sure was mentioned earlier in this post), then you can start putting notches on your belt...try to figure out 20 ways to bring traffic to your site, instead of focusing on 1 problem...

...But I would consider going the extra mile by providing something of value to offer those that have figured out the traffic getting process...also consider writing articles, I know it's time consuming, but if you don't have much of a budget then this is way to start to at least get your name out there and refine you writing skills as well.

Where is your market hanging out at? Are they reading ezines, newsletters,forums,blogs etc...Have you considered creating banners and doing banner exchanges with potential partners (blogs) that's servicing your market?

There's a lot more productive things you can do,then worrying about SEO...this is a time consuming process and takes a bit of time to even see results. (As I'm sure everyone here is aware of...)

If you're getting traffic now by other means...are you tracking what action is being taken with your offers? Are they buying, opting in to your list? Have you tried multiple offers? What are you numbers? Because if you haven't figured out the numbers game, then this would be a good place to start as well.

Sorry to be long winded, but there's a lot more to consider, then just SEO... seek out experts who've been there and done that, maybe interview these people to service your list and educate them and yourself, while building relationships along the way.

I could be completely wrong, but if I can be service in any way, please don't hesitate to email me...I'm not an expert by any means..I'm simply offering my opinion...no pun intended...you may need re-focus thinking...because a mentor may not be the answer for you at this time. Get intimate with your market and you can't go wrong.

Ultimately it comes down to your market (servicing your market) and your goals.

But all in all...GO THE EXTRA MILE!...It'll pay off in the long run.

P.S. Remember...this is a numbers game, whether we like it or not.

My feelings exactly,

I am dedicated to learning as much as I can however I don't have time to waste in my business to go through a year of trial and error. Based on what I see from this forum I will just stand on faith and design a strategy and test it for a few months and just take it from there.

Once I get to the point where I'm wealthy I will just pick 6 people and help them create wealth for themselves and I want charge a dime even if I sell my system I will still continue to give back.

Hello All,

Please excuse if I offend or otherwise...I'm new to the forum etiquette...I think the real question should be what is your ultimate goal? To build your email list, increase revenues, engage more users for exposure or more page views for your brand...

...There's more than 1 way to skin a cat...as we all know, but you should be spending your time on activities that's going to bring you closer to your ultimate goal...such as seeking out JV partners with a free (evergreen) report/s (WIIFM) to build your list or creating an evergreen product/s to create affiliates (Clickbank, paydotcom etc...) in order to add profits to your bottom line.

There are individuals out there that have figured out the traffic process and if you can tap into these sources with something of value (which I'm sure was mentioned earlier in this post), then you can start putting notches on your belt...try to figure out 20 ways to bring traffic to your site, instead of focusing on 1 problem...

...But I would consider going the extra mile by providing something of value to offer those that have figured out the traffic getting process...also consider writing articles, I know it's time consuming, but if you don't have much of a budget then this is way to start to at least get your name out there and refine you writing skills as well.

Where is your market hanging out at? Are they reading ezines, newsletters,forums,blogs etc...Have you considered creating banners and doing banner exchanges with potential partners (blogs) that's servicing your market?

There's a lot more productive things you can do,then worrying about SEO...this is a time consuming process and takes a bit of time to even see results. (As I'm sure everyone here is aware of...)

If you're getting traffic now by other means...are you tracking what action is being taken with your offers? Are they buying, opting in to your list? Have you tried multiple offers? What are you numbers? Because if you haven't figured out the numbers game, then this would be a good place to start as well.

Sorry to be long winded, but there's a lot more to consider, then just SEO... seek out experts who've been there and done that, maybe interview these people to service your list and educate them and yourself, while building relationships along the way.

I could be completely wrong, but if I can be service in any way, please don't hesitate to email me...I'm not an expert by any means..I'm simply offering my opinion...no pun intended...you may need re-focus thinking...because a mentor may not be the answer for you at this time. Get intimate with your market and you can't go wrong.

Ultimately it comes down to your market (servicing your market) and your goals.

But all in all...GO THE EXTRA MILE!...It'll pay off in the long run.

P.S. Remember...this is a numbers game, whether we like it or not.

People can indeed better pay for it then get it for free, as with free info they are too lazy to do anything with it, while if they pay they might think, damn I paid a few 100 bucks for it, better do something with it or it's money down the drain.

And even then...

I always think that if you need coaching you're just a loser. If you really want something you figure it out yourself, unless it's some high tech / scientific stuff.

Affiliate marketing and making money online is pretty straight forward. Why people still fail and only 98% succeeds? Simply cause they are way too lazy or like taking shortcuts with every single thing they do.

No wonder automated solutions sell so well, get rich in 5 days, damn I should start selling WSO's.

Dontcha just love it when folks bring up months old threads for absolutely no reason at all