My success with fiverr and web2.0 after PENGUIN

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Hello guys,

I just wanted to share my tactic on how I can easily rank keywords after penguin update. It costs some money and it takes some time, but when you have enough time you can easily save your money for doing it over and over again.

As we can all see, many ppl on the warriorforum are offering all kind of linkwheels/link pyramids/web2.0 links - which all are pretty penguin safe. But the bad part is that most of the quality services cost over $100 per campaign. Since I don't have enough money to invest SEO services I tried my own strategy and I'm having a GREAT sucess with it.

So how to SAFELY rank with fiverr?

1) Register yourself to the top 20-30 web2.0 properties, such as wordpress,blogspot,tumblr.

2) Write 2-3 350+ words articles about your niche and spin them manually or with The Best Spinner. If you can't spin them, then just submit those 3 articles to the web2.0s

3) Submit those articles to the 20-30 web2.0 properties, customize the theme, add some pictures or videos + your article (to look more natural). Point 2-3 links to your website and change the anchor text.

4) Find GIG from fiverr that that gives 500 social bookmarks with unlimited URLS and point those social bookmarks to your web2.0s. $5

5) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 1000+ wikis with unlimited urls and point them to your web2.0s $5

6) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 20k scrapebox blog comments blast with unlimited urls and point them to your WIKIs. $5

7) Go outside, grab a coffee/tea, do whatever you want


For conclusion, this strategy takes maximum of 3-4 hours of work and $15 bucks. It can be done much more quicker once you got in your hands. Furthermore, you can save A LOT of money and you don't have to wait for "TURNAROUND", since most of the fiverr GIGs complete your order in 24hours. This strategy works like charm and it will give you a HUGE boost in SERPS.

NB1: You can use the same tactic for document sharing sites, because they have much authority.

NB2: Don't forget to do other kind of backlinking such as
  • Niche related blog comments
  • Top social bookmarks
  • Top web directories
  • Video submissions
  • etc.
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  • Profile picture of the author zannix
    That's nice, thanks for sharing your observations. Would you mind telling us exactly what kind of success you've seen with this method post penguin? - give us some case study material ^^

    And if so, can you absolutely isolate this method so that you are convinced that it was this that contributed to your rankings (and not other techniques you were implementing as well)?

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    • Profile picture of the author mandos123
      Originally Posted by zannix View Post

      That's nice, thanks for sharing your observations. Would you mind telling us if you had success with this method even post the penguin update?

      And if so, can you absolutely isolate this method so that you are convinced that it was this that contributed to your rankings?

      Kind Regards,
      Zannix
      Hello Zannix

      Thanks for your input. Well I have tried this method for few months now, but after the penguin it looks like this kind of pyramid has more "authority".

      And yes, I'm convinced that it works. I usually make this pyramid and wait for 3-7 days after that you can already see some HUGE improvements on SERPS. It also works with new sites with low/low-mid comp.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Thanks for sharing your tactic.

    Is the purpose of the making the social bookmark and wiki links just to get the backlinks on the web 2.0 sites indexed or is it to give the backlinks more power?
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    • Profile picture of the author mandos123
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Thanks for sharing your tactic.

      Is the purpose of the making the social bookmark and wiki links just to get the backlinks on the web 2.0 sites indexed or is it to give the backlinks more power?
      Both, but mostly to get more POWER to those web2.0 sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    You lost me at "spin". It may work now, but I prefer to swim downstream with quality content than swim upstream with spun crap. Eventually, Google will devalue those links too....prefer to avoid that.
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    • Profile picture of the author gearmonkey
      Originally Posted by OneManSEO View Post

      You lost me at "spin". It may work now, but I prefer to swim downstream with quality content than swim upstream with spun crap. Eventually, Google will devalue those links too....prefer to avoid that.
      I agree, I would avoid doing spun articles. You can find great fiverr gigs that offer 4 hand written 200 word articles for $5. I bought the service and they did great!
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanoryan
    Have you any particular Fiverr users you recommend for these gigs (in particular the social bookmarking )?
    You can pm me if you don't want to name them on here.

    thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author teachingking
    Are you saying you submit 20-30 "spun" versions to the web 2.0 sites, or 3 versions to 20-30 2.0 sites?
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    • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
      Originally Posted by teachingking View Post

      Are you saying you submit 20-30 "spun" versions to the web 2.0 sites, or 3 versions to 20-30 2.0 sites?
      It doesn't matter what he does, it matters what you do.. that is, dont do exactly what other people do or you will produce not only patterns, but unoriginality. Remember, originality is the name of the game. Now that I got that out of my system, do whatever produces the most random results.. i would say both.. how 'bout 3 versions, all spun would be the most unique.

      Just need to emphasize one thing...

      WELL SPUN CONTENT.. okay? Not autospun, unproofread, gibberish junk
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      • Profile picture of the author inter123
        Is it possible to re-use the same web 2.0 property? I mean, say you have a blog with blogger, can you create another blogger blog, add different articles and get additonal SEO benefits given you already have a blogger blog pointing to the money site?

        Finding 20 different web 2.0 is hell of a task. Sure you get websites that list a whole load of web 2.0 properties but many of them are dead (for e.g Vox) and there is a whole load of web 2.0 properties that simply will not get indexed by Google making it pretty redudant.
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        • Profile picture of the author inter123
          20 web 2.0 properties with 3 X 300 articles at $1 per 100 words is already $180. If the articles are spun, the cost is $60. As for writing the articles yourself, it is not a matter of 3 or 4 hours, considerably more then that.

          It is a shame $40 is now insufficient to create a 5 page mini site, SEO it and wake up to find yourself on the first page of Google.
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          • Profile picture of the author zannix
            Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

            20 web 2.0 properties with 3 X 300 articles at $1 per 100 words is already $180. If the articles are spun, the cost is $60. As for writing the articles yourself, it is not a matter of 3 or 4 hours, considerably more then that.

            It is a shame $40 is now insufficient to create a 5 page mini site, SEO it and wake up to find yourself on the first page of Google.
            You can search for a list of alive web 2.0 properties online in a matter of minutes.

            As for the latter, you don't need 60 unique articles for submission. You only need 3x original articles of 350 words each and that can be done in about an hour or an hour and a half.

            Submission process and image/video insertion should take you another hour/hour and a half.

            Ordering fiverr gigs should take you 15 minutes.

            Total spent is indeed $15 + 3 hours.
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            • Profile picture of the author inter123
              Originally Posted by zannix View Post

              You can search for a list of alive web 2.0 properties online in a matter of minutes.

              As for the latter, you don't need 60 unique articles for submission. You only need 3x original articles of 350 words each and that can be done in about an hour or an hour and a half.

              Submission process and image/video insertion should take you another hour/hour and a half.

              Ordering fiverr gigs should take you 15 minutes.

              Total spent is indeed $15 + 3 hours.
              I must be slow and very dumb.

              I spent the whole day sifting though web 2.0 properties listed on Google to find suitable ones (like for examples ones which have not closed their doors, onces which are dofollow, etc).

              Had to register with email details and with some of them, time to figure out how to get the site up and running. For example yola.com, is one of the less user friendly ones. And something like squidoo.com is definately not a quick 5 minute jobby. Came up with 18 web 2.0 that met requirements, submitted articles and had to do a bit of work to try to get them indexed like pinging and submission to websites in the hope they get indexed. Also time searching Google finding suitable images and videos.

              Ended up with about 10 that got picked up by Google .

              At least with this experience, it will be a bit more quicker next time and but definately take (me and most people) 5 times the prescribed time above.
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    • Profile picture of the author nbatioco
      Originally Posted by teachingking View Post

      Are you saying you submit 20-30 "spun" versions to the web 2.0 sites, or 3 versions to 20-30 2.0 sites?
      It doesn't matter how he use his articles, what matter most is how you do it.

      Originally Posted by petemcal View Post

      Tier 1: 20 web 2.0 sites
      Tier 2: 500 social bookmarks (25 to each web 2.0)
      Tier 3: 1000 wiki page links (2 to each bookmark)
      Tier 4: 20000 blog comment links (20 to each wiki)
      This is the simplest explanation of the post, You nailed it dude.
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  • Profile picture of the author mcbiz
    Thank for sharing, I am try you tactic.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dinospider
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    Yeah spinning's not really the way forward anymore. Your best bet is instead of spinning grab some articles in your niche and rewrite the content, wouldn't take more then a few hours to do.

    Then simply add the rewritten content to the web 2.0's and walla! google will see it as unique and give a much higher boost.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gaston Wolf
    Yeah you can easily rewrite, semi spin content quickly and easily You can use the best spinner to spin certain bits and make sure its readable.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    How exactly do you go about finding 20 web 2.0 sites which are alive? As inter123 said, some don't get indexed so how do you know what are the best ones to submit to? Do you just go for the ones which have a high homepage PR and hope for the best?

    Also, do you use the same pen name on each of the 20 web 2.0 sites or do you use a different name for each one?

    Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author inter123
      Originally Posted by evertd View Post

      List of web 2.0 properties right here on warrior forum:

      http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...roperties.html
      That is actually a good list.

      But I doubt you can create 20 web 2.0 in 1.5 hours sifting out sites where you have to pay for it (typepad.com), ones which are in Spanish (hazblog.com), ones where you have to spend time learning the peculiarities of the platform (moonfruit.com), etc, etc.
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      • Profile picture of the author JoshN
        Originally Posted by inter123 View Post

        That is actually a good list.

        But I doubt you can create 20 web 2.0 in 1.5 hours sifting out sites where you have to pay for it (typepad.com), ones which are in Spanish (hazblog.com), ones where you have to spend time learning the peculiarities of the platform (moonfruit.com), etc, etc.
        That chart is amazing, but whats the significance of xmlrpc?
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  • Profile picture of the author plsearch
    so basically your method isn't proven as there is no way Google has crawled all of the links you built and indexed everything and passed on the appropriate link juice to move your rankings.

    more speculation.
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    • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
      Originally Posted by plsearch View Post

      so basically your method isn't proven as there is no way Google has crawled all of the links you built and indexed everything and passed on the appropriate link juice to move your rankings.

      more speculation.
      Google doesn't have to index your properties in order for them to be spidered, and what he's suggesting isn't just one person's idea, it's a proven strategy that is used by many people, and is discussed on many threads both in here and other forums. You saying "more speculation" is like someone saying that the earth goes around the sun, and you saying "hah, pure speculation!".. umm, no.. proven fact, actually.
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  • Profile picture of the author allsystems
    Originally Posted by mandos123 View Post

    Hello guys,

    I just wanted to share my tactic on how I can easily rank keywords after penguin update. It costs some money and it takes some time, but when you have enough time you can easily save your money for doing it over and over again.

    As we can all see, many ppl on the warriorforum are offering all kind of linkwheels/link pyramids/web2.0 links - which all are pretty penguin safe. But the bad part is that most of the quality services cost over $100 per campaign. Since I don't have enough money to invest SEO services I tried my own strategy and I'm having a GREAT sucess with it.

    So how to SAFELY rank with fiverr?

    1) Register yourself to the top 20-30 web2.0 properties, such as wordpress,blogspot,tumblr.

    2) Write 2-3 350+ words articles about your niche and spin them manually or with The Best Spinner. If you can't spin them, then just submit those 3 articles to the web2.0s

    3) Submit those articles to the 20-30 web2.0 properties, customize the theme, add some pictures or videos + your article (to look more natural). Point 2-3 links to your website and change the anchor text.

    4) Find GIG from fiverr that that gives 500 social bookmarks with unlimited URLS and point those social bookmarks to your web2.0s. $5

    5) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 1000+ wikis with unlimited urls and point them to your web2.0s $5

    6) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 20k scrapebox blog comments blast with unlimited urls and point them to your WIKIs. $5

    7) Go outside, grab a coffee/tea, do whatever you want


    For conclusion, this strategy takes maximum of 3-4 hours of work and $15 bucks. It can be done much more quicker once you got in your hands. Furthermore, you can save A LOT of money and you don't have to wait for "TURNAROUND", since most of the fiverr GIGs complete your order in 24hours. This strategy works like charm and it will give you a HUGE boost in SERPS.

    NB1: You can use the same tactic for document sharing sites, because they have much authority.

    NB2: Don't forget to do other kind of backlinking such as
    • Niche related blog comments
    • Top social bookmarks
    • Top web directories
    • Video submissions
    • etc.
    The cycle you have described is common linking strategy and im guessing if you had success with this from one cycle the keyword you are targetting must be relatively easy. I do similar thing myself but i run my web 2.0 through linklicious and backlinksindexer and xrumer and scrapebox. All of this still dosent mean the web 2.0 gets backlinked. It does pass on good juice though
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  • Profile picture of the author Nino
    Yeah that stuff can work. But the way we should look at 2.0 sites is like this:

    You can build a "private network" on them - cheap, but it's essential that you continue to post content.

    Instead of buying domains you can use the 2.0 sites which can also get faster rankings due to higher(if any) linking limits.
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  • Profile picture of the author Watch Store
    Do you think this also works with websites that lost rankings post penguin ?
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  • Profile picture of the author footfoot
    Why spin your content? That's more fishy to google than simply syndicating it to random 2.0's isn't it?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nickels
    i read about a strategy similar to this...about making your articles/videos look as if they are going viral.
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  • Profile picture of the author tansks
    I think spin with proofread, right? I will going to try this strategy. Thank for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author John34
    Are you trying to rank your web 2.0 sites or your money site with this method?
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  • Profile picture of the author headmaster211
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    Dude, I am doing exactly the same. However I am not outsourcing it to fiverr yet. But I get results most of the time. This works for low competition keywords.

    Also, I prefer not to spin my content. Spinning your content is just asking for trouble as Google is exactly looking out for that kinds things. If competition is medium I just write a new article or elseuse the same as in my site.

    The idea is not to rank your Web 2.0 properties, but to pass some good link juice to your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author mandos123
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      How exactly do you go about finding 20 web 2.0 sites which are alive? As inter123 said, some don't get indexed so how do you know what are the best ones to submit to? Do you just go for the ones which have a high homepage PR and hope for the best?

      Also, do you use the same pen name on each of the 20 web 2.0 sites or do you use a different name for each one?
      Hello cooler1,

      Finding web2.0s is not so hard as it looks. There are many lists on the internet where you can scrape up your 20-30 web2.0s sites.

      I use different pen names, sometimes I use the keyword for example mykeyword.blogspot.com some times I just use john-doe.wordpress.com



      Originally Posted by Nino View Post

      Yeah that stuff can work. But the way we should look at 2.0 sites is like this:

      You can build a "private network" on them - cheap, but it's essential that you continue to post content.

      Instead of buying domains you can use the 2.0 sites which can also get faster rankings due to higher(if any) linking limits.
      That's right. However, I think it's not right to put different niche articles to same web2.0, but the if you have web2.0s which is mostly about "how to make money" then it's a great idea.

      Originally Posted by Watch Store View Post

      Do you think this also works with websites that lost rankings post penguin ?
      I think you can move up in the SERPs, but I'm not sure if you can fully recover.

      Originally Posted by John34 View Post

      Are you trying to rank your web 2.0 sites or your money site with this method?
      Money site

      Originally Posted by headmaster211 View Post

      Dude, I am doing exactly the same. However I am not outsourcing it to fiverr yet. But I get results most of the time. This works for low competition keywords.

      Also, I prefer not to spin my content. Spinning your content is just asking for trouble as Google is exactly looking out for that kinds things. If competition is medium I just write a new article or elseuse the same as in my site.

      The idea is not to rank your Web 2.0 properties, but to pass some good link juice to your site.
      Nice to see that you are having success with it. So basically you use 1 article per 20 web2.0s and don't spin it?
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  • Profile picture of the author cagliostro
    yeah, do that, go to Fiverr, and be prepared to lost your rank.
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    • Profile picture of the author Oggyoi
      Originally Posted by cagliostro View Post

      yeah, do that, go to Fiverr, and be prepared to lost your rank.
      why ?

      there are some really good and effective services there
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      • Profile picture of the author cagliostro
        Originally Posted by Oggyoi View Post

        why ?

        there are some really good and effective services there
        No they are not. Speaking for SEO, not a single one. Be real pls, for 4$ !!!

        Most recent google de-ranking was due to extremely poor Fiverr (and similar) services.

        Would you trust your website to someone for 4$ ?
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        • Profile picture of the author rkrone
          Originally Posted by cagliostro View Post

          No they are not. Speaking for SEO, not a single one. Be real pls, for 4$ !!!

          Most recent google de-ranking was due to extremely poor Fiverr (and similar) services.

          Would you trust your website to someone for 4$ ?
          Fiverr is good to do certain parts of your SEO, no one (hopefully) is expecting a page 1 result with just 1 fiverr...... but yes, there are some bad ones, you need to be careful
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by cagliostro View Post

          No they are not. Speaking for SEO, not a single one. Be real pls, for 4$ !!!

          Most recent google de-ranking was due to extremely poor Fiverr (and similar) services.

          Would you trust your website to someone for 4$ ?
          He didn't say point the links to your website though, he said point them to your web 2.0 sites and wiki links.
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      • Profile picture of the author teachingking
        Originally Posted by Oggyoi View Post

        why ?

        there are some really good and effective services there
        Want to recommend some?
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  • Profile picture of the author WhosGotMoves
    Thanks for sharing your method mandos123. With so many people taking a hit from Penguin it's great to see that someone is finding a method that works. Most of what I was doing before the algo update is still working, but I have noticed that I have to alter my strategy just a bit.

    I'm going to try putting this into practice for a few of my smaller niche sites and hopefully see some jump in rankings over the next few days. I'll report back.
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  • Profile picture of the author John F Kennedy
    This most certainly does work!

    Works even better when you submit your RSS feeds and backlink them too..

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  • Profile picture of the author incognito19
    I will add that once you start seeing traffic to the web 2.0 sites, buy a good chunk of Facebook Likes, Twitter and others. Thanks for sharing.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rainmakermc
    It is a good method. The only challenge is the big bump in links over a short period of time. This is a big red flag for the big G. I use SeNuke to do the same thing, but build the links over 30 days.
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    nice method... i will try this one
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  • Profile picture of the author hammertorch
    One question, can i link my web 2.0 sites and make it as link wheel? does this link wheel still apply to the new penguin update?
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      Originally Posted by hammertorch View Post

      One question, can i link my web 2.0 sites and make it as link wheel? does this link wheel still apply to the new penguin update?
      Link "wheel" is just too obvious and old school now, and I dont think Panda/Penguin makes it any better. I would go with either totally random or pyramid like structures.
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  • Profile picture of the author sharmaravi08
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    I can offer senuke backlinks to Web 2.0 created. My fiverr gig is working great with 900+ feedbacks and 100% Rating.
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  • Profile picture of the author kviv23
    TRY this above to have BOTH panda and penguin slap right on your butt man!!! This is some crazy stuff.

    If you have not heard about "mass spam index penalty", it is a time to do some homework.

    stay away from this **** guys!
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by kviv23 View Post

      TRY this above to have BOTH panda and penguin slap right on your butt man!!! This is some crazy stuff.

      If you have not heard about "mass spam index penalty", it is a time to do some homework.

      stay away from this **** guys!
      Could you please explain what part of this method triggers a "mass spam index penalty". Is it because the articles are spun or is it because the web 2.0's are backlinked heavily with fiverr backlink gigs?
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        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Could you please explain what part of this method triggers a "mass spam index penalty". Is it because the articles are spun or is it because the web 2.0's are backlinked heavily with fiverr backlink gigs?
        Google can't detect If an article is spun.

        What Google can detect is If a hyperlink is stuffed into an article that is totally irrelevant (example below):

        The toaster is typically a small electric kitchen appliance designed to toast multiple credit card types of bread products. A typical modern two-slice toaster draws from 600W to 1200W and makes toast in 1 to 3 minutes.
        Notice how I stuffed the keyword credit card.

        Really all Google does is try & group keywords/pages that are related to each other.

        Now If you was to stuff additional keywords that are related to the anchor-text in the credit card link, you could probably get away with a page full of gibberish (not that I recommend doing that, just saying).

        Example:
        The toaster is annual credit report typically a small electric kitchen bank of america appliance designed to credit score toast multiple credit card types of bread products. A typical mastercard modern two-slice toaster draws from 600W to 1200W and makes credit check toast in 1 to 3 minutes.
        Google is smart about a lot of things, but not everything.
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        • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Google is smart about a lot of things, but not everything.
          The only thing is, you might get away with it now, but where do you think it will lead to in the future? I don't know about you but I'm taking precautions now, that will hopefully last many years.
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          I am not looking for a long term business but something that can exist for 3 to 4 to 5 months. Does that mean I am alright with an article marketing robot blast as long as the article is on topic?

          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Google can't detect If an article is spun.

          What Google can detect is If a hyperlink is stuffed into an article that is totally irrelevant (example below):



          Notice how I stuffed the keyword credit card.

          Really all Google does is try & group keywords/pages that are related to each other.

          Now If you was to stuff additional keywords that are related to the anchor-text in the credit card link, you could probably get away with a page full of gibberish (not that I recommend doing that, just saying).

          Example:


          Google is smart about a lot of things, but not everything.
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Google can't detect If an article is spun.

          What Google can detect is If a hyperlink is stuffed into an article that is totally irrelevant (example below):



          Notice how I stuffed the keyword credit card.

          Really all Google does is try & group keywords/pages that are related to each other.

          Now If you was to stuff additional keywords that are related to the anchor-text in the credit card link, you could probably get away with a page full of gibberish (not that I recommend doing that, just saying).

          Example:


          Google is smart about a lot of things, but not everything.
          I don't get it. :confused: The OP never mentioned anything about stuffing unrelated hyperlinks into the article, so how is that related?
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by kviv23 View Post

      TRY this above to have BOTH panda and penguin slap right on your butt man!!! This is some crazy stuff.

      If you have not heard about "mass spam index penalty", it is a time to do some homework.

      stay away from this **** guys!
      LOL That's exactly what I'm thinking
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    I'm looking around fiverr I've found a good gig for 20k scrapebox blog comment blasts with unlmited urls.

    I've found a gig for 350+ social bookmarks with unlimited urls

    BUT I cannot find any wiki link gigs with unlimited urls, all seem to have a 2 url limit. Can anyone please kindly post a fiverr gig link for wiki page links with unlimited urls?

    Thanks, it would help all of us I'm sure.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    I love this kind of "blue sky" SEO! Seriously separates the men from the boys.

    At the end of the day Google's Panda, Pengiun updates are algorithms. Yes it's smart but if you spend time writing decent articles or make sure the Spintax is nailed on then you can outsmart a piece of code.

    The only time this method won't work is if a REAL Google employee audits your website/backlinks and let's be honest in a pool of BILLIONS of websites that is NEVER going to happen!

    Be creative, be smart, keep diversifying and you will be one step ahead of Google...
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      The only time this method won't work is if a REAL Google employee audits your website/backlinks and let's be honest in a pool of BILLIONS of websites that is NEVER going to happen!
      If you go spamming the hell out of the internet with spun content or you let someone on fiverr do it for you then that just might happen. People track your links and complain to Google.. then they put you on the naughty boys list.

      I would never trust my website in the hands of someone from Fiverr.. I'm doing everything by hand and it will withstand a manual review, not only are the people on Fiverr after a quick buck, it's cheap, nasty and risky.
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      • Profile picture of the author smodha
        Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

        If you go spamming the hell out of the internet with spun content or you let someone on fiverr do it for you then that just might happen. People track your links and complain to Google.. then they put you on the naughty boys list.

        I would never trust my website in the hands of someone from Fiverr.. I'm doing everything by hand and it will withstand a manual review, not only are the people on Fiverr after a quick buck, it's cheap, nasty and risky.
        There is nothing spammy about this technique. My personal strategy is similar to this but I use a few variations. I MANUALLY write 2 or 3 articles and post them to Web 2.0s. The only time I use Fivver is when I automate my tasks like Social Bookmarks. I admit there is plenty of crap on Fivver but I use gigs that are exceptional and read the reviews thoroughly. I even PM the guys who leave a review to double check their experiences!

        If you want true success/wealth in IM then you have to outsource. It's that simple.
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        • Profile picture of the author teachingking
          Originally Posted by smodha View Post

          There is nothing spammy about this technique. My personal strategy is similar to this but I use a few variations. I MANUALLY write 2 or 3 articles and post them to Web 2.0s.
          Do you submit the same version of your articles to multiple Web 2.0s or do you only submit to 2-3 Web 2.0s?
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          • Profile picture of the author smodha
            Originally Posted by teachingking View Post

            Do you submit the same version of your articles to multiple Web 2.0s or do you only submit to 2-3 Web 2.0s?
            You can't submit the same article. That's duplicate content. What you need to do is create 3 versions of the same underlying article. So what I do is buy a 500 word article (iWriter, Fiverr etc) and manually spin it myself. If I'm passionate about the niche then I will add a few lines as well.

            Once I have 3 UNIQUE versions of the original article I post to 2 or 3 Web 2.0s. I personally like Squidoo, Hubpages and Tumblr but there are 100s to choose from. I've heard really successful stories about WordPress.com but I haven't tested it myself yet.

            Hope that helps...
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              Originally Posted by smodha View Post

              You can't submit the same article. That's duplicate content. What you need to do is create 3 versions of the same underlying article. So what I do is buy a 500 word article (iWriter, Fiverr etc) and manually spin it myself. If I'm passionate about the niche then I will add a few lines as well.

              Once I have 3 UNIQUE versions of the original article I post to 2 or 3 Web 2.0s. I personally like Squidoo, Hubpages and Tumblr but there are 100s to choose from. I've heard really successful stories about WordPress.com but I haven't tested it myself yet.

              Hope that helps...

              I hope this helps people with proper spinning.

              search for advanced spinning strategies a pdf, otherwise you will be spinning like a newb and leaving a footprint forever.
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  • Profile picture of the author ishuvonet
    Thanks for sharing your tactics.I will definitely try it soon for some of my client sites.Hope this will work after post panda.
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    Lets try it
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    Panda 3.5 – All about it and how to get rid of Panda

    This thread advocates backlinking web2.0 with wikis which are backlinked by Scrapebox spam blogs. Is that not going to raise red flags?
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    BTW - read the original post again. OP says it's still very successful POST Penguin...
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by smodha View Post

      BTW - read the original post again. OP says it's still very successful POST Penguin...
      Until Cutts refreshes penguin and you all come crying. PLEASE HELP! My site has vanished into thin air!!! WHAT am I going to do!!

      Haven't you learned anything? From my pov it just looks like you're spamming away using the crumiest backlinks on Earth without putting any real thought into it. If it was as easy as buying a bunch of Fiverr gigs we'd all be millionaires!

      Is that guy selling those 20000 scrapebox blasts the same guy who's offering neg seo?

      The links are not quality sources they're not linking to quality sources and they have no links from quality sources. If you flock together you fly together.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

        Until Cutts refreshes penguin and you all come crying. PLEASE HELP! My site has vanished into thin air!!! WHAT am I going to do!!

        Haven't you learned anything? From my pov it just looks like you're spamming away using the crumiest backlinks on Earth without putting any real thought into it. If it was as easy as buying a bunch of Fiverr gigs we'd all be millionaires!

        Is that guy selling those 20000 scrapebox blasts the same guy who's offering neg seo?

        The links are not quality sources they're not linking to quality sources and they have no links from quality sources. If you flock together you fly together.
        His method involves sending the backlinks from fiverr gigs to the Web 2.0's, not directly to the site so how would this have a negative affect on your site?
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          As a matter of fact crappy links can also hurt your website right through the web2.0's. I tested this a year ago, every single web2.0 was outranking the innerpage on the website, and that innerpage was nowhere to be seen. Google isn't so stupid to not detect these links in tier2.

          I agree that tiering works, but you have to do it in a normal way, for example:

          tier1: 100 web2.0's
          tier2: 2000 bookmarks, (so each web2.0 only gets 20 bookmarks) could add other links as well
          tier3: 40000 comments (so each bookmark only gets 20 links)

          Pointing 20.000 comments at only 20 web2.0's will HURT your site definetly.
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          • Profile picture of the author 4morereferrals
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            As a matter of fact crappy links can also hurt your website right through the web2.0's. I tested this a year ago, every single web2.0 was outranking the innerpage on the website, and that innerpage was nowhere to be seen. Google isn't so stupid to not detect these links in tier2.

            I agree that tiering works, but you have to do it in a normal way, for example:

            tier1: 100 web2.0's
            tier2: 2000 bookmarks, (so each web2.0 only gets 20 bookmarks) could add other links as well
            tier3: 40000 comments (so each bookmark only gets 20 links)

            Pointing 20.000 comments at only 20 web2.0's will HURT your site definetly.

            ^^^ That up there ... Total BS ...

            Only issue I have with the OP's post is - careless Fiverr sellers could really bang up the hard work.... and There's GOT TO BE some links off High PR pages - somewhere behinds the tier 1 or youre not gunna rank for anything competitive.

            This is pretty much how we do it - for terms that need some JUICE.




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            • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
              Originally Posted by 4morereferrals View Post





              This is the way I would of planned it but you're making one fatal mistake. Not linking to other quality sources, outbound linking is just as important. So I would say don't be stingy it could actually help you, create more relevance with your mini sites.

              Behind your Money site you could have 20 related authority .gov/.edu domains and 20 related authority websites, then start sharing some link love and blend it in to the web graph.

              I would put one random link in each of the tier 2 small web 2.0 to .gov and related sites, then link to related .gov/.edu on my tier one and on my money site.

              Mixing it in with high pr blog posts, those crappy scrapebox blasts aren't gonna do anything for serps movement.

              I think finishing of with the web 2.0 is good move too, it's just more natural, so it looks more quadrilateral than a pyramid, providing they are unique domains and not like tier1 and 2.

              Possibly mixing in another type of incoming link to just to connect it into the larger web graph, like 100 related comments (not scrapbox/with names) random to the tier 1 and 2 on good quality blogs.

              The end result should be it looks like a complete mess and not a perfectly formed triangle, the more time you spend on it, the better quality sources you use, then the better results you will have.
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          • Profile picture of the author petemcal
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            As a matter of fact crappy links can also hurt your website right through the web2.0's. I tested this a year ago, every single web2.0 was outranking the innerpage on the website, and that innerpage was nowhere to be seen. Google isn't so stupid to not detect these links in tier2.

            Pointing 20.000 comments at only 20 web2.0's will HURT your site definetly.
            This as far as I can see is not the structure being advocated in this OP.

            He/she says this is what works for them:

            Tier 1: 20 web 2.0 sites
            Tier 2: 500 social bookmarks (25 to each web 2.0)
            Tier 3: 1000 wiki page links (2 to each bookmark)
            Tier 4: 20000 blog comment links (20 to each wiki)

            I think this structure could be improved a little as there is a big bottleneck at tier 3 going into 4 (wikis).

            Anyone who is experienced in SEO able to chip in on this point?
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by petemcal View Post

              This as far as I can see is not the structure being advocated in this OP.

              He/she says this is what works for them:

              Tier 1: 20 web 2.0 sites
              Tier 2: 500 social bookmarks (25 to each web 2.0)
              Tier 3: 1000 wiki page links (2 to each bookmark)
              Tier 4: 20000 blog comment links (20 to each wiki)

              I think this structure could be improved a little as there is a big bottleneck at tier 3 going into 4 (wikis).

              Anyone who is experienced in SEO able to chip in on this point?
              I commented on someone who advised to point 20k comments at 20 web2.0s directly. At least I think I read that somewhere but can't find it back so quickly.

              If the above structure is what the OP posted then it should work for easy/low competition keywords indeed. I don't see people ranking tough kw's with that indeed. There is a little more power needed for that.

              To the other poster: It's very easy to say to use high PR blogpost. As almost all the networks are deindexed or the ones that are still strong will get deindexed when mass submitting 100 different topics to it. So I don't think that's really a save/ long lasting method.

              And links can hurt, even through buffers, it's tested at least a dozen times by myself.
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              • Profile picture of the author petemcal
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                I commented on someone who advised to point 20k comments at 20 web2.0s directly. At least I think I read that somewhere but can't find it back so quickly.

                If the above structure is what the OP posted then it should work for easy/low competition keywords indeed. I don't see people ranking tough kw's with that indeed. There is a little more power needed for that.
                Thanks for writing back on this one, it's good to have some clarification that it should at least work for low competition keywords.

                That is something that everyone seems to have forgotten, the OP of this didn't say anything about the toughness of the targeted keywords (as far as I can remember)
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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    It's called relative mass. It doesn't matter if the links are pointing directly to the site or not. If one has been considered a bad link the site it's linking too will still inherit it's qualities.

    If you point 10000 scrapebox links to a web 2.0 what are you saying that it is going to be considered a great source? What makes things worse they are blasts and not natural linking, just all the more reason to mark it as spam. Like i said if you flock together you fly together.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    What i mean by that term i used is this, if you link to quality content and quality content links to you then you must be quality and the opposite is true otherwise. This link pyramid does nothing to improve the web, you're standing out on the web graph like a sore thumb. You need to link to other sources too? Not just funnel 40000 links through a handful of web 2.0, this type of pyramid should take several weeks to build properly not several days, plus the quality of the sources should be improved, I'm not bitching I'm just saying I would hate to see someone here blasting away with no care in the world only to see their site getting pumped by Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author avielmedina
    thats amazing, i can see tons of web2.0 ranking on google after pengiun.. but im afraid when penguin2 will come what happen
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  • Profile picture of the author eXthus
    Nice post. This is similar to what I have been doing since the penguin and panda. Do you have a list of the 'top' web 2.0 property sites? I've been going for Squidoo, Hubpages, Blog . com, Wordpress, and Blogger, but like you say - could do with at least 20 - 30 different properties.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    Web 2.0 properties, social bookmarks and wikis still work very well after the update.

    High PR blog posts still work, but you need to have the right strategy in place, like flipping websites. When your links get deindexed you not only lose rankings but your website also gets a penalty.
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  • Profile picture of the author smodha
    Someone wise on WF said "concentrate on TRAFFIC instead of RANKINGS". If your business model is 100% dependent on Google traffic then you don't have a business because you are not in control of it. I know PLENTY of IM guys who have lost legitimate sites since Penguin (NO link blasts, NO spun content etc). Like I always say. SEO works both ways.

    My strategy is both online and offline and I use a variety of traffic sources. Yes being page 1 of Google helps. Nobody is disputing that. But spending time creating YouTube videos and posting original content to 2 or 3 Web 2.0s is just as effective in my experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    mandos123,

    your fiverr seo method;


    4) Find GIG from fiverr that that gives 500 social bookmarks with unlimited URLS and point those social bookmarks to your web2.0s. $5

    5) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 1000+ wikis with unlimited urls and point them to your web2.0s $5

    6) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 20k scrapebox blog comments blast with unlimited urls and point them to your WIKIs. $5

    My question;

    does your method brings my new micro niche site a fast seo boost (ranking) or either in 3-5 months?

    why I should I not make these fiverr backlinks to my new niche site root domain, why should I do this first to these web2.0 sites??

    this fiverr backlinks direct to my root domain is far better or not?

    best wishes
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    • Profile picture of the author petemcal
      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      mandos123,

      your fiverr seo method;


      4) Find GIG from fiverr that that gives 500 social bookmarks with unlimited URLS and point those social bookmarks to your web2.0s. $5

      5) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 1000+ wikis with unlimited urls and point them to your web2.0s $5

      6) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 20k scrapebox blog comments blast with unlimited urls and point them to your WIKIs. $5

      My question;

      does your method brings my new micro niche site a fast seo boost (ranking) or either in 3-5 months?

      why I should I not make these fiverr backlinks to my new niche site root domain, why should I do this first to these web2.0 sites??

      this fiverr backlinks direct to my root domain is far better or not?

      best wishes
      marco005
      You do not want to point all links at your root domain because it will be picked up more easily by google as you trying to manipulate the PR of YOUR DOMAIN.

      However if you build a link pyramid then all of the juice is filtering down into the 2.0 sites which can be passed onto your money site.

      The theory is that you are putting a lot of the risk into the 2.0 sites instead of your own. If your site is penalised then you can remove the links from the 2.0 sites leading to yours and hopefully pick it back up again. You have control of the 2.0 sites and so any bad juice from the pyramid can be removed (over time). Where as if you pointed all of the links in the pyramid directly at your site you cannot remove them. So if you get penalised then there is no way back.

      Hope this helps, and please anyone feel free to correct me as I'm still learning too.
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  • Profile picture of the author teachingking
    Smodha,

    Thanks for the reply. Just curious, do you create separate accounts on each web 2.0 for each niche/domain you are backlinking to?

    Sounds like you then use fiverr gigs to backlink to your web 2.0s? If so, what type of gigs?

    Aaron
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    • Profile picture of the author smodha
      Originally Posted by teachingking View Post

      Smodha,

      Thanks for the reply. Just curious, do you create separate accounts on each web 2.0 for each niche/domain you are backlinking to?

      Sounds like you then use fiverr gigs to backlink to your web 2.0s? If so, what type of gigs?

      Aaron
      Yeah I create separate accounts for each niche. I don't really venture into that many niches because I like to write about products and services I'm passionate about. For example I know the dog training/grooming niche is huge but since I don't own dogs and don't have any interest in them I stay away from that niche.

      I pretty much use the same backlinking gigs mentioned by Mandos in the original post but try and be creative. Use some link diversity. There are plenty of different methods you can use so find one that you are comfortable with.
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      • Profile picture of the author wilsonm
        2 weeks ago I created 10 web 2.0 that got indexed. Then got 5,000 wikis pointing to the 10 web 2.0 and non of them got indexed. Yesterday got a fiverr dude to blast 12,000 blogs to 1,000 of the wikis.

        Now waiting for results....
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  • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
    Originally Posted by mandos123 View Post

    Hello guys,

    I just wanted to share my tactic on how I can easily rank keywords after penguin update. It costs some money and it takes some time, but when you have enough time you can easily save your money for doing it over and over again.

    As we can all see, many ppl on the warriorforum are offering all kind of linkwheels/link pyramids/web2.0 links - which all are pretty penguin safe. But the bad part is that most of the quality services cost over $100 per campaign. Since I don't have enough money to invest SEO services I tried my own strategy and I'm having a GREAT sucess with it.

    So how to SAFELY rank with fiverr?

    1) Register yourself to the top 20-30 web2.0 properties, such as wordpress,blogspot,tumblr.

    2) Write 2-3 350+ words articles about your niche and spin them manually or with The Best Spinner. If you can't spin them, then just submit those 3 articles to the web2.0s

    3) Submit those articles to the 20-30 web2.0 properties, customize the theme, add some pictures or videos + your article (to look more natural). Point 2-3 links to your website and change the anchor text.

    4) Find GIG from fiverr that that gives 500 social bookmarks with unlimited URLS and point those social bookmarks to your web2.0s. $5

    5) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 1000+ wikis with unlimited urls and point them to your web2.0s $5

    6) Find GIG from fiverr that gives you 20k scrapebox blog comments blast with unlimited urls and point them to your WIKIs. $5

    7) Go outside, grab a coffee/tea, do whatever you want


    For conclusion, this strategy takes maximum of 3-4 hours of work and $15 bucks. It can be done much more quicker once you got in your hands. Furthermore, you can save A LOT of money and you don't have to wait for "TURNAROUND", since most of the fiverr GIGs complete your order in 24hours. This strategy works like charm and it will give you a HUGE boost in SERPS.

    NB1: You can use the same tactic for document sharing sites, because they have much authority.

    NB2: Don't forget to do other kind of backlinking such as
    • Niche related blog comments
    • Top social bookmarks
    • Top web directories
    • Video submissions
    • etc.
    Nice sharing buddy I just have some quick questions for you. Do you order all those Fiverr gigs and point them instantly to your Web 2.0 properties WITHOUT paying attention to whether they're indexed or not? Have you had any negative results with this strategy?

    I ask that because I'm ranking a new website and I do something similar to this. I built 15-20 Web 2.0 properties in 3 days and started building lots of backlinks from blog networks to those Web 2.0 backlinks (as I don't have SBD or Scrapebox earlier). But after doing so, my sites experienced a significant decrease in rankings with all keywords :confused:

    So confusing...
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Duy Nguyen View Post

      Nice sharing buddy I just have some quick questions for you. Do you order all those Fiverr gigs and point them instantly to your Web 2.0 properties WITHOUT paying attention to whether they're indexed or not? Have you had any negative results with this strategy?

      I ask that because I'm ranking a new website and I do something similar to this. I built 15-20 Web 2.0 properties in 3 days and started building lots of backlinks from blog networks to those Web 2.0 backlinks (as I don't have SBD or Scrapebox earlier). But after doing so, my sites experienced a significant decrease in rankings with all keywords :confused:

      So confusing...
      Yeah same here, you have to be carefull with your tiers, people think you can just blast away but that's definetly not the case.
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      • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Yeah same here, you have to be carefull with your tiers, people think you can just blast away but that's definetly not the case.
        Thanks nik0 for replying, I doubt that the OP will ever turn back there to answer my question So, do you have any suggestions on this? What types of links you build to your Web 2.0 and in what time frame (blast instantly or during a specific period of time)?

        Thanks buddy
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    • Profile picture of the author mandos123
      Originally Posted by Duy Nguyen View Post

      Nice sharing buddy I just have some quick questions for you. Do you order all those Fiverr gigs and point them instantly to your Web 2.0 properties WITHOUT paying attention to whether they're indexed or not? Have you had any negative results with this strategy?

      I ask that because I'm ranking a new website and I do something similar to this. I built 15-20 Web 2.0 properties in 3 days and started building lots of backlinks from blog networks to those Web 2.0 backlinks (as I don't have SBD or Scrapebox earlier). But after doing so, my sites experienced a significant decrease in rankings with all keywords :confused:

      So confusing...
      Hey Duy,

      I haven't had any negative aspects on this specific strategy. Are you sure it's not google dance? It's completely normal after blasting links to web2.0 since google is recalculating your links "power". It should settle back in the better position.

      However, as I said, I don't recommend to use blog networks for tiering web2.0. Use socialbookmarks, wikis, article submissions or blog comments.

      AND YES, I don't pay attention whether they are indexed or not, why should I? Social bookmarks are mostly done for maximising the indexing speed and the other tiers are made for making this web2.0 more powerful.
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      • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
        Originally Posted by mandos123 View Post

        Hey Duy,

        I haven't had any negative aspects on this specific strategy. Are you sure it's not google dance? It's completely normal after blasting links to web2.0 since google is recalculating your links "power". It should settle back in the better position.

        However, as I said, I don't recommend to use blog networks for tiering web2.0. Use socialbookmarks, wikis, article submissions or blog comments.

        AND YES, I don't pay attention whether they are indexed or not, why should I? Social bookmarks are mostly done for maximising the indexing speed and the other tiers are made for making this web2.0 more powerful.
        Thanks Mandos123 for coming back and answering my question

        Yes, it was a Google dance and I've checked for the rankings of my keywords and I had 2 of them are now in the top 20, 3 are in top 100 and only 2 are still nowhere to found. It has been 10 days since I started building the Web 2.0 and blasting them. So I guess the next time I do things like this, I will go with a slower rate. And I just want to ask if you ever experienced the Google dance with this kind of practice (as it seems like you blast the Web 2.0 instantly)?
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  • Profile picture of the author mandos123
    Don't use blog networks for backlinking web2.0s. Google really hates them unless you have some own "private network empire".
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  • Profile picture of the author marco005
    Hi,

    petemcal now I understand , thank for your tip.

    I will create 10 web 20 sites, each site with 2 articles and from then link back to my money site.

    And I will order this fiverr gig to build these pyramid backllinks to my 10 web 20 sites;

    "Dino_stark will build eminent backlink pyramid with 5000 profiles links,links are all from different domains and about 90 percent are dofollow for $5"

    So I hope that this will be not penalized my adsense micro niche site, then when you have soccial traffic on your adsense site you will be penalised and get $0,1-0,5 payout per click from adsense not $0,50 or more.

    Does google penalized my micro adsense site with thismethod (I hope not)??

    And please post only recommend fiverr gigs, there are many unserious on fiverr who are to fool to answer......

    best wishes
    marco005
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Honestly I never noticed any results with forumprofile link pyramids.

      You would be better off with a forumpost pyramid, use search at Fiverr and you'll find.

      Originally Posted by marco005 View Post

      Hi,

      petemcal now I understand , thank for your tip.

      I will create 10 web 20 sites, each site with 2 articles and from then link back to my money site.

      And I will order this fiverr gig to build these pyramid backllinks to my 10 web 20 sites;

      "Dino_stark will build eminent backlink pyramid with 5000 profiles links,links are all from different domains and about 90 percent are dofollow for $5"

      So I hope that this will be not penalized my adsense micro niche site, then when you have soccial traffic on your adsense site you will be penalised and get $0,1-0,5 payout per click from adsense not $0,50 or more.

      Does google penalized my micro adsense site with thismethod (I hope not)??

      And please post only recommend fiverr gigs, there are many unserious on fiverr who are to fool to answer......

      best wishes
      marco005
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  • Profile picture of the author markwilson4074
    Thanks for sharing.

    But this is exactly what google's penguin update is looking for :

    Tons of crappy links with spun / duplicate content.

    Can it be used for both new and used (established) websites hit by penguin.

    Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by markwilson4074 View Post

      Thanks for sharing.

      But this is exactly what google's penguin update is looking for :

      Tons of crappy links with spun / duplicate content.

      Can it be used for both new and used (established) websites hit by penguin.

      Thanks.
      Having the same content on different web 2.0's isn't duplicate content, it's syndicated content.
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      • Profile picture of the author eniram
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Having the same content on different web 2.0's isn't duplicate content, it's syndicated content.
        Originally Posted by smodha View Post

        You can't submit the same article. That's duplicate content. What you need to do is create 3 versions of the same underlying article. So what I do is buy a 500 word article (iWriter, Fiverr etc) and manually spin it myself. If I'm passionate about the niche then I will add a few lines as well.

        Once I have 3 UNIQUE versions of the original article I post to 2 or 3 Web 2.0s. I personally like Squidoo, Hubpages and Tumblr but there are 100s to choose from. I've heard really successful stories about WordPress.com but I haven't tested it myself yet.

        Hope that helps...
        I'm getting mixed signals here. Is it ok to submit the same article to many 2.0's or not?
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            Originally Posted by MikeWike View Post

            It's TOTALLY OK!
            Errrr....how is posting the same article on multiple Web 2.0 platforms ok?
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              • Profile picture of the author eniram
                Originally Posted by MikeWike View Post

                It's called content syndication. If you submit same article to different (let's say 15-20 web2.0s) web2.0s then it's completely OK. Ofcourse, if you want to get more power out of your web2.0s then use different article for every web2.0s. Just don't use scrappy spun content, google can easily figure out whether your web2.0 properties is spun or not. However, It's a whole different story when you HANDSPUN it.

                You will not get penalized for the same articles, your rankings will not fall etc. It's completely normal for business owner to use same article/press release to promote their website. If it's well written, educational and gives user a great insight, then WHY the HELL should he make another article or even spin it? :confused:

                The only bad point about this strategy is that when you submit SAME article to 100+ web2.0s properties then google is not very happy indexing that kind of sites, but if you boost them with additional backlinks then eventually they will get indexed as well.

                IMO use 1 article for ~15 web2.0s, then write another one and use it for 15 web2.0s etc..
                My gut feeling is that article syndication is perfectly fine as long as you do so on websites specifically designed for spreading articles, like squidoo, articlebase, hubpages, etc. What seems fishy to me is creating a blog for the sole purpose of backlinking to your website using the same content that is already on your website. Google is all about the user experience and such a website provides no value to the user.
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              • Profile picture of the author smodha
                Originally Posted by MikeWike View Post

                It's called content syndication. If you submit same article to different (let's say 15-20 web2.0s) web2.0s then it's completely OK. Ofcourse, if you want to get more power out of your web2.0s then use different article for every web2.0s. Just don't use scrappy spun content, google can easily figure out whether your web2.0 properties is spun or not. However, It's a whole different story when you HANDSPUN it.

                You will not get penalized for the same articles, your rankings will not fall etc. It's completely normal for business owner to use same article/press release to promote their website. If it's well written, educational and gives user a great insight, then WHY the HELL should he make another article or even spin it? :confused:

                The only bad point about this strategy is that when you submit SAME article to 100+ web2.0s properties then google is not very happy indexing that kind of sites, but if you boost them with additional backlinks then eventually they will get indexed as well.

                IMO use 1 article for ~15 web2.0s, then write another one and use it for 15 web2.0s etc..
                I'll have to test this out with a SENuke blast...
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  • Profile picture of the author seobro
    I am now getting a lot of emails like this one:

    Hello, my name is John Doe, and I want to know if you are interested in exchange links with me? I can place your link on my front page.

    super spammy rorex reprica site (dot) com ALEXA SCORE NO RANK + PR0

    If you agree please send me the web page my link is on.

    ANCHOR TEXT:
    BODY COPY:
    URL:
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  • Profile picture of the author LucyLane
    I realize that I'm super backtracking here and this is going to sound silly, but what do you all mean when you're referring to web 2.0 properties??
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    i think penguin has helped in killing people earning, fiver is a place that can be called a setteled.
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  • Profile picture of the author extremejava
    These kind of posts assume that Google is fool. Useless for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by extremejava View Post

      These kind of posts assume that Google is fool. Useless for me.
      Useless yet it works for people? Why would this method assume Google is a fool? There is nothing BH going on, it's just content syndication.
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    If that is true why would anyone need Spintax???
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    Very interesting post
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  • Profile picture of the author isha1234
    Thanks for sharing your opinion with us. My website is also hit by penguin effect badly. So, i will try your tactic.
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  • Profile picture of the author petemcal
    I have been having some additional thoughts about this method.

    I'm not too happy about having layers that are made up entirely of the same type of links. I know this is one of the main criterias that google were slapping sites post penguin for. You need a varied link profile.

    Can anyone suggest some different types of links you can buy in bulk for the wiki links level? And for the blog comments blast level?

    I want to have more than just wiki and blog comments feeding the pyramid. Any suggestions? Fiverr gig links welcome!

    Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author petemcal
        Originally Posted by MikeWike View Post

        You could try:

        tier 1: web2.0
        tier 2: social bookmarks
        tier 3: article submission
        tier 4: wikis
        tier 5: blog comments
        tier 6: forum profiles

        It's all about your imagination. However, IMO social bookmarks and article submissions are more safer than wikis and blog comments, that's why they are as "tier 2" and "tier 3" on my list.
        Thanks for your response. I think I will build a pyramid that looks like this:

        Tier 1: web 2.0s
        Tier 2: social bookmarks and article submissions
        Tier 3: wikis
        Tier 4: Blog comments and forum profiles

        That way some levels are less one dimensional, which I hope will be less likely to trigger google's flags.

        I am also thinking about how people use link pyramids. Are you pointing them to your homepage or deep links or both?

        Should these be used for deep links or is it safer to point them at home pages?
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  • Profile picture of the author beloed
    thanks for sharing
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  • Profile picture of the author wilsonm
    Most of my wikis failed to get indexed by G and 99% are nofollow. Looks like I wasted $5 at fiverr!
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  • Profile picture of the author cuimian
    It seems to be nice strategy for me, thank you for sharing, I will try it
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  • Profile picture of the author agbsnv
    this is a great strategy to make some sales in few days.
    thanks a lot.
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  • Profile picture of the author risingrank
    thank you for sharing this fiverr method.
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  • Profile picture of the author KrisN
    I think especially now it's extremely important not to send any kind of spam links directly to your website. I agree with this strategy.

    Keep it safe people!
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  • Profile picture of the author BennyP
    This method will be destroyed by Google in future updates. Everything about this rings the spam bell.

    Fiverr has some awesome "gigs" but also a lot of crappy spammers trying to make a quick buck. I use fiverr myself, but 20000 blog comments? Really? I don't see this method as a solid structure for longevity, it may work now but i doubt it will for long.
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