Is Magic Submitter Still Working after Penguin?

by Sayed
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Hi,

I wonder if Magic Submitter still giving results after Penguin update or in other words, does it deserve my trust and money today?
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  • Profile picture of the author scottmacair
    Working after penguin - it never worked pre-penguin.

    Automated link building tools like Magic Submitter are a complete waste of time and money in my opinion. Do you really want to spam the hell out of the same web 2's?

    I'm sure most people who use this type of tool for long enough will receive an Unnatural Links Detected penalty and that's pretty much the end of your website.
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    • Profile picture of the author plsearch
      Originally Posted by scottmacair View Post

      Working after penguin - it never worked pre-penguin.

      Automated link building tools like Magic Submitter are a complete waste of time and money in my opinion. Do you really want to spam the hell out of the same web 2's?

      I'm sure most people who use this type of tool for long enough will receive an Unnatural Links Detected penalty and that's pretty much the end of your website.
      How would anyone be "caught" for using a tool that helps you register in places faster? Its a tool, not a network.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Umm though for other tools you are right MS allows you to add your own sites so you CAN use it For half decent link building. If I get the time and you guys are interested I can do a youtube video and show you how




      Originally Posted by scottmacair View Post

      Working after penguin - it never worked pre-penguin.

      Automated link building tools like Magic Submitter are a complete waste of time and money in my opinion. Do you really want to spam the hell out of the same web 2's?
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      • Profile picture of the author mbmehmet
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Umm though for other tools you are right MS allows you to add your own sites so you CAN use it For half decent link building. If I get the time and you guys are interested I can do a youtube video and show you how
        That would be real cool Mike, I for one would really appreciate that and I am guessing most of the rest of us would too :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author scottmacair
          I have used it and yes the option to set it up to post to potentially any site is far better than link robot or senuke x.

          However I will say that used out of the box without any custom posting set up it's not that useful and for most people here it's just too dangerous.

          Unless you really know what you're doing it's far too easy to trigger an unnatural links detected penalty or for penguin to kick in using this type of tool.

          The problem is not so much the tool but more that it makes it easy for people to create a massive amount of backlinks in a short space of time which can easily trigger penalties if not used with carefully.


          Of course there are a few people here who can use it to their advantage without consequence.

          Before using a tool like this it's good to ask yourself - do you know what a natural backlink profile looks like and can you replicate it without consequence?
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          • Profile picture of the author rudi
            By using tools such as Magic Submitter or even SEnuke and come to think of it any automation software, you need to remember that no software is enough to create a link building campaign to sustain rankings especially after penguin.

            I stopped using Magic Submitter and I use Ubot studio to submit to my own sites. But even with using SEnuke you need to break up the footprint by using other methods of linking, Social sites like facebook, twitter and even Google +1 are essential part of linking. I don't mean mass posting bots either, but relevant mentions in conversations.

            Remember Google wants to see natural linking, this will come from both do-follow an no-follow sources. Why, because automated software generally focuses on do-follow links. The majority of good blogs are no-follow in comments, however check out leading sites backlinking with open site explorer you will see high link authority coming from genuine blog comments on authority sites even though they are no-follow.

            If you check backlinking strategies of the sites that rank highly after penguin (i do not mean the through blank sites that have slipped through the net) you will see that there backlinks are full and varied from lots of different sources.

            I keep my eye on some sites linking structures and very often spot magic submitter / senuke blasts but the fact they rank well is because they have the sense to know that it takes more than just those software packages to be able to rank. Put simply mix it up and keep in as natural as possible.
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          • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
            Originally Posted by scottmacair View Post

            Unless you really know what you're doing it's far too easy to trigger an unnatural links detected penalty or for penguin to kick in using this type of tool.

            The problem is not so much the tool but more that it makes it easy for people to create a massive amount of backlinks in a short space of time which can easily trigger penalties if not used with carefully.
            Most definitely true. However I use it just to setup web 2.0 Blog sites. Its ability to setup email accounts and the a few of those accounts along with sites I add is a great time saver but like you said not for massive links - maybe 20-30 max
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      • Profile picture of the author jordyhill
        I've used different software over the past few years and let me tell you, there isn't anything on the market right now that can touch Magic Submitter. It is hugely versatile beyond building spammy links.

        $67 a month sound a lot? It works out at marginally over 2 bucks a day. Even if I could hire a personal assistant for 2 bucks a day, they would want to take breaks and time off work.

        I do of course use it for building links, but the campaign feature allows this to be drip fed over weeks or months and over several tiers.

        Perhaps MSub should come with a government warning: Misuse of this software can result in serious webmaster penalties. Please SEO responsibly. :p

        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Umm though for other tools you are right MS allows you to add your own sites so you CAN use it For half decent link building. If I get the time and you guys are interested I can do a youtube video and show you how
        I am up for it...I can't get enough of Magic Submitter videos. Weird, never thought I'd say that
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    • Profile picture of the author meatro
      Originally Posted by scottmacair View Post

      Working after penguin - it never worked pre-penguin.

      Automated link building tools like Magic Submitter are a complete waste of time and money in my opinion. Do you really want to spam the hell out of the same web 2's?

      I'm sure most people who use this type of tool for long enough will receive an Unnatural Links Detected penalty and that's pretty much the end of your website.
      You're silly.

      Magic Submitter is hands down in the top 3 SEO tools to have and if you speak down on it, quite honestly I don't believe you have experience with it.

      You can teach MS to do the bulk of any SEO related task, not just link building. It's the best employee for you to have because you only have to show it how to do its job once and it will sit there doing whatever nonsense you don't enjoy.

      And add to that the other typical response of using tools responsibly and not just spamming the crap out of the internet like some silly person.

      MS is its own tool, tho. I can see how people say things like SENuke X has a huge footprint, along with Xrumer (again, use them wisely, silly) but MS has whatever footprint you tell it to have.

      It's my personal favorite tool.
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      • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
        Originally Posted by meatro View Post

        You're silly.

        Magic Submitter is hands down in the top 3 SEO tools to have and if you speak down on it, quite honestly I don't believe you have experience with it.

        You can teach MS to do the bulk of any SEO related task, not just link building. It's the best employee for you to have because you only have to show it how to do its job once and it will sit there doing whatever nonsense you don't enjoy.

        And add to that the other typical response of using tools responsibly and not just spamming the crap out of the internet like some silly person.

        MS is its own tool, tho. I can see how people say things like SENuke X has a huge footprint, along with Xrumer (again, use them wisely, silly) but MS has whatever footprint you tell it to have.

        It's my personal favorite tool.
        Amen! Magic Submitter is so versatile you can find tons of use for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bryan V
    Can you still ride a bike after penguin?

    Penguin doesn't target specific software..or bikes.
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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    Every seo tools has advantages and disadvantages, so its all up to your using skills how you use them.
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  • Profile picture of the author jacobz1
    To Mike Anthony: Please make the video! It would be very helpful for me to.
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  • Profile picture of the author faysal969
    I never like automated technique. I believe quality is more important than quantity. Manual technique are more effective and longer lasting. I think tools like magic submitter may not work properly after penguin update.
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    • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
      Originally Posted by faysal969 View Post

      I never like automated technique. I believe quality is more important than quantity. Manual technique are more effective and longer lasting. I think tools like magic submitter may not work properly after penguin update.
      You can still overdo it manually too.. I can build around 250 high pr links and 100 high pr forum profiles a day all manually, dangerous stuff.

      ..but spreading that risk amongst little web 2.0 sites built with tools like MS seems to be a workaround for the link power delivered by manual link building.
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    • Profile picture of the author JohntheGreat
      Originally Posted by faysal969 View Post

      I never like automated technique. I believe quality is more important than quantity. Manual technique are more effective and longer lasting. I think tools like magic submitter may not work properly after penguin update.
      You are absolutely correct that "quality is more important than quantity" but you know what, you can still have quality with MS if you know how to use it effectively and not just spamming the internet. A tool is a tool and it all depends on the users strategy.
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by JohntheGreat View Post

        You are absolutely correct that "quality is more important than quantity" but you know what, you can still have quality with MS if you know how to use it effectively and not just spamming the internet. A tool is a tool and it all depends on the users strategy.
        Magic Submitter submits to a default list of 'low-quality' websites. By default, the links you receive from those sites are low-quality and low-impact. For $804 per year, there certainly have to be other options that are much better than this.

        Social bookmarking sites and article directories are not what they once were. So you have a steep learning curve, a high recurring payment, and likely minimal results using Magic Submitter.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sayed
    Thanks guys, this was really helpful...
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Use zenno poster if you like making your own bots. Really simple (but I can code...) and powerful. Magic Submitter is alright though.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshN
    This is an interesting piece of software after looking it up. It looks like it would save me a bunch of time creating accounts with article sites, web 2.0 sites youtube ect..

    Just in time savings it would be great but at 67$ a month thats a tough sell. I could see going crazy with this thing and setting off a bunch of red flags but if I used it just to save some time I don't see any issue with it.

    Is there any other cheaper pieces of software that will automatically submit to web 2.0 article directories, ect?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    ^^how is $67/month a tough sell if it saves you hours and hours of boring manual work? How much is your time worth, honestly?
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshN
      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      ^^how is $67/month a tough sell if it saves you hours and hours of boring manual work? How much is your time worth, honestly?
      because I don't build niche sites any more. Now I focus on authority sites and thus I maybe only build one, once a month if that. So, I go through that whole cycle of creating logins fewer times. I'd basically be paying 67$ backlinking each site and still doing it myself

      If you compare that to outsourcing... you might be able to have someone else do it for you cheaper or for the same price.
      Software should be cheaper than human labor even if its outsourced labor
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      • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
        Originally Posted by JoshN View Post

        because I don't build niche sites any more. Now I focus on authority sites and thus I maybe only build one, once a month if that. So, I go through that whole cycle of creating logins fewer times. I'd basically be paying 67$ backlinking each site and still doing it myself

        If you compare that to outsourcing... you might be able to have someone else do it for you cheaper or for the same price.
        Software should be cheaper than human labor even if its outsourced labor
        Yea his makes sense. But then if you have no real need for automation, there's nothing to compare really. Manual is the way to go.
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        • Profile picture of the author JoshN
          Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

          Yea his makes sense. But then if you have no real need for automation, there's nothing to compare really. Manual is the way to go.
          Not to mention..why the reoccuring cost. I'd prob pay up to about $150 as a one time fee. Theres no reoccuring costs for them.. so no reason for re-occuring charges.

          I also have secockpit and understand that because the software is constantly residing on remote servers and constantly taking up resources they need to cover their costs so I dont mind the monthly charge... Magic submitter doesnt seem to be the same thing.

          The reason for the automation, is that I still really hate backlinking and although you're not creating lots of different logins, you can get more complex backlinking strategies/ more diverse strategies going if you had automated
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          • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
            Originally Posted by JoshN View Post

            Not to mention..why the reoccuring cost. I'd prob pay up to about $150 as a one time fee. Theres no reoccuring costs for them.. so no reason for re-occuring charges.
            Updates. Things change a lot, especially online. I guess, not sure to be honest.

            Try zenno poster. It's a bit more expensive, but you only pay once (I think). I bought mine ages ago, prices might have gone up/changed now.
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  • Profile picture of the author PabloM90
    Omg some answers are just pathetic, MS is only a tool, you can use it to rank your site, or if you dont know seo, get slap in your ass from google.
    Ms is the best seo tool, because you can submit just for every site, not like senuke, always to the same site, google can find a patters there.
    MS can help a lot to rank sites, and sell seo services easier...

    MS just do automatically, what you would do manually, with designer you just can submit like anything..

    As long as google will use backlinks as ranking factor, ms will be very useful tool..
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshN
      I ended up buying it today. I just had to try it for only 5$ for the first month. It looks pretty sweet. Building links directly to your site seems straight forward but it looks like there is also the ability to create complex backlinking campaigns and spreading them out over time.

      I am still trying to figure out how to build a link wheel with it. It sure looks like you can do that but not quite sure how yet.

      This thing is fast though, I created logins for 10 web 2.0s in all of about 2 minutes once it was setup. Then it took another minute to log in to my email and confirm all the subscriptions. I Used Dragon naturally speaking, put together a 600 word overview article, spun it and submitted it to all 10 sites.

      Took a couple hours but mainly because I'm still figuring it out.
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshN
    Wow this thing btw is very powerful. No wonder folks get in trouble with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author multiline
    I am using SEnuke from the last 1 month and I think its not the worth $150 a month. I think MS is a better option. I am going to use 1 month $5 trial and try to investigate if it can be proved a better seo software.
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      • Profile picture of the author zannix
        MS is still a very good tool, and perhaps the main reason being that you can add your own sites to it and configure it as you wish.

        Yes, it requires some experimentation but once you get a hold of it, you can make an automation tool that isn't just for spamming, but instead does what you'd normally do manually, only a lot faster and a lot easier.

        And that's what you should be aiming for when it comes to automation tools.

        But there are better tools for SEO than MS, especially after Penguin...
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  • Profile picture of the author MrDougJay
    Nope. Nowadays it's all about quality not quantity.
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    Everything is working. You just have to deal with the best strategies not to get penalized by Google. It's not about the tools, it's about how you use it and how you implement your strategies.
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  • Profile picture of the author BAC
    Simple answer:

    Never use any seo softwares to rank higher. Let it be natural, it takes time but it will rank high if you have quality posts/articles.

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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    it didn't work for me its a waste of time
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  • Profile picture of the author caksut
    Originally Posted by scottmacair

    Working after penguin - it never worked pre-penguin.

    Automated link building tools like Magic Submitter are a complete waste of time and money in my opinion. Do you really want to spam the hell out of the same web 2's?

    I'm sure most people who use this type of tool for long enough will receive an Unnatural Links Detected penalty and that's pretty much the end of your website.



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  • Profile picture of the author codecreative
    Magic submitter was trialed by myself and another individual and it didn't work for either of us over a period of several months for low strength competition keywords. Im not saying it doesnt work but just saying our experience. We followed detailed instructions and webinar enthusiastically because we did want it to work. Unfortunatly it didn't.
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  • Profile picture of the author randomsk1tzo
    I use magic submitter a lot and find it to be an awesome tool. You obviously still have to put some work into it, to submit to a custom list of sites.

    But once you've done this it just automates the tasks that you would have to do manually prior to this?
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  • Magic Submitter is 100% STILL WORKING after penguin.

    I am ranking new sites EVERYDAY!

    Remember that a proper strategy needs to be put in place with link building. As previously said, if you don't have a proper strategy, how would you expect to rank anything? - Manual or Automatted.

    Magic Submitter speeds things up TREMENDOUSLY, I can signup to 1200 different bookmarking sites and verify the emails in about 20 mins.

    Would I then submit to all 1200 sites in 1 day - NO.

    Any tool that can speed up otherwise tedious processes is a winner in my eyes.

    Even though I am massively biased, its more than justified
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    The minus point i have seen with Magic submitter is that many of the websites are even panalized or deindexed already in google. I have seen they are still for submission in Magic Submitter.

    The developer is ofcourse do have timely update but it is my suggest to them to make sure that they remove sites with the deindexed domain names like that...

    As getting more % of links from deindexed or panalized sites may have red flag to your website IMO.
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  • Profile picture of the author chrisdarrenjames
    Here's my thoughts....

    If quality is better than quantity and people say build a quality tier 1 and then blast spammy links for tier 2 to strengthen tier 1.....(backlink pyramid style) well why don't we just have a quality layer on every tier 2 as well.

    So build quality tier 1's (say 20 web 2.0s) and then build another quality layer of tier 2 (say 20 web 2.0s).

    This would be a better scenario going forward. Build low quality links to tier 1 just weakens the tier 1 in my opinion.

    Why not just build a decent properties on every tier and then target a variation of long tail. It might be a bit more work, but will be sustainable and also convert higher too.

    More likely to stick if you ask me.

    So fine use some software like magic submitter but make sure you set it up so it looks like manually produced, drip feed and make sure the spun content is human readable and instead of blasting profile links (tier 2) to your web 2.0s (tier 1), instead why not build web 2.0s to web 2.0s and make sure each tier is unique and target different long tail keywords.

    "You don't try to build a wall. You don't set out and say, "I'm going to build the biggest, baddest, greatest wall that has ever been built." You say, "I'm going to lay this brick as perfectly as a brick can be laid. You do this every single day, and soon you have a wall." Quote by Will Smith

    In the time you have chased thousands of low quality links and wasted days trying to figure out a piece of software, you could have built a handful of quality guest posts and then built guest posts or quality blog comments to the guest posts

    Whatever you do....ask yourself "does what I am doing look natural?" Would a random person set up a web 2.0 site to talk about your website and then suddenly get hit with a 1000 profile links or 1000 blog comments?

    Focus on building quality links that also bring traffic. I built a few quality forum comment links to my article and hit top of google because they are harder to get. The harder the link is to get the more effect it will have on your rankings and also the less you will have to build.

    Hit me up with any comments.
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  • Profile picture of the author bhuvananichi
    Manual submission is best always.
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    • Profile picture of the author theseoproz
      Is anyone still using Magic Submitter? It seems like a viable tool for building 3rd and 4th tier links. Any thoughts?
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  • Profile picture of the author andishm
    For me its not the software which works or not it is your strategies behind using that software which makes you win win.... no matter how many animals recently came and gone...
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  • Strategy is DEFINITELY important.

    Magic Submitter still works great but without knowing what to do with it, it can do harm.

    Try driving a car at 100MPH down a freeway, for the first time, without any lessons and see what happens.

    MS is a powerful tool for powerful SEOs.

    You can learn strategy over time.

    Master manual SEO and then you can automate all that strategy with a tool like ms.

    Its NOT a toy for kids with ZERO experience, its a GREAT PIECE OF KIT for someone willing to invest the time.

    The way I use the tool is quite simple:

    If I wouldnt do it manually, I wont do it with the tool either.

    (What do I mean by that?)

    Well, if I was manually building links, would I blast 300 low quality profile links to my money site? - NO I WOULDNT! So, I dont do it with MS either.

    Its simple really, it speeds up the process of WHAT I WOULD DO MANUALLY.

    Not rocket science, just common sense SEO!!!!

    You have three options when using an automation tool:

    1) Drop SEO and go back to your day job you don't want to study/take the time.

    2) Damage your site and cry that its the software's' fault

    3) Learn the tool and get steady rankings.

    I chose option 3 and am literally crushing it.

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