First page ranking post penguin, pig, parrot, or what ever comes next.

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The last site I ranked on the first page of G held position #5 for a few weeks right before penquin. According to serp attacks, the key phrase rating was 75-extremely difficult to rank (not sure how accurate this is). The site was 55 days old when it first appeared on the first page. I followed most of the white hat strategies that a lot of forum members are currently discussing post penguin. I had manually posted original articles to a lot of web 2.0s with backlinks to my home page and interior pages, and yes, I did mix up the anchor text. I wish I would have just stuck to this plan........but nooooo. I had also outsourced some article submission campaigns. These were done with, you guessed it, manually spun articles, then software submitted to thousands of article directories. I feel these and other outsourced backlinks were the cause of my site getting slapped. The main reason being, that it is hard to have any control over outsourced backlinks. Especially links that were once indexed and now the pages they were on return 404 errors.

Enough of the past, lets move on. I set up another site for the purpose of ranking on page one again. The phrase I am targeting is 'fl lotto'. Serp attacks ranks this at 11-very easy (we'll see). Of course, the site has very little chance of ranking #1 because of the authority of the Florida lottery webpage. Why am I telling you the phrase I am targeting? Because, I believe, after the new updates, seo is going to involve a lot of manual labor to rank on page one. If someone else wants to try and rank this term, please do. Just make sure you post all of your methods here, so we can compare notes and learn from each other.

I will use this thread to track my progress as the site 'hopefully' moves up in rank. Since I'm just starting out again, there will not be a lot of activity here, other than on going discussions. I will use similar methods as before, except for the outsourcing. In a nut shell, my goal is to post 5 original articles to site site per week with no internal linking. In the beginning, I will only use my own personal bookmark accounts to get backlinks to each post and the home page. After a few weeks, I will start submitting original articles to web 2.0s. Two backlinks to the site, two images, and a youtube video imbedded. This is supposed to give the article more authority from what I have read in another thread. Not sure what methods I will use to backlink to these articles.

Day 1 - Registered an EMD at godaddy. Set up a new blog at blogger and set the new domain to redirect to the blog url. Is it better to use google's blog platform? Maybe, maybe not. Should I have just used the normal blogger url? Not sure.

Day 3 - Started posting articles to site. Each one will have an image embedded.
-Set number of posts to 5 per page.
-Also ordered more articles. Titles and content will be based on related long tail key phrases.

Day 4 - Placed these items in right sidebar: A poll, Florida lottery gadget, and a youtube gadget.
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  • Profile picture of the author alphadude
    Good luck...look forward to following this thread.
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    Stupid keyword. What the heck are you going to post about? These changes are suppose to teach us lessons and I'm afraid you haven't learned any. Seriously, what can you possibly post about and how can you have any long term results with this keyword? It's another doorway page that Google hates and visitors hate.

    Good luck anyways.
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  • Profile picture of the author retsek
    IMO, you are already off to the wrong start. What useful content are you going to provide for the keyword "fl lotto".

    My golden rule is: if your site can't pass a manual review by one of Google's quality raters, then eventually (sooner or later) their algorithm WILL catch up with you. That's what they are training their algo to do - rate and rank sites EXACTLY the same way a real human would.

    Unless you're holding a florida lottery yourself or providing daily updates or something like that, I would mark your site as useless and a "door-way" page to either get ad clicks or push some affiliate offer.
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  • Profile picture of the author atwellpub
    Support and watching.
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    • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
      Point taken about key phrase. There are a lot of topics on the lottery, not just the Florida lottery. If all my articles were about the Florida lottery, then no, it wouldn't be that informative of a site. Remember, I'm not going to stuff my site with articles about the fl lotto, that would be silly. There are a lot of states that hold lotteries, articles can be written for each state. Different strategies on playing the lottery can be written about. What happened to people that won lotteries, etc. The list goes on. The site will be a lot better than a site that just pushes lottery products and ebooks on "how to win".
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  • Profile picture of the author jewelraz
    good luck for your journey. But have you done these things:
    Keyword analysis,
    keyword density check,
    competitor backlinks,
    image alt use,
    on page/off page optimization?
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  • Profile picture of the author Duy Nguyen
    Bookmarked your thread Dollar_bill I will keep a close eye on your journey. Good luck mate! You have my support
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  • Profile picture of the author Jaka Pradana
    google algorithm penguin for user satisfaction, so make a good web
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  • This changes clearly shows the dominance of Google in Internet. Everyone has to depend on their algorithmic changes. Is this called cyber politics?
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    • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
      good luck for your journey. But have you done these things:
      Keyword analysis,
      keyword density check,
      competitor backlinks,
      image alt use,
      on page/off page optimization?
      Thanks for the tips. I am following these and other factors.

      google algorithm penguin for user satisfaction, so make a good web
      I am going to try my best.

      IMO, they are pointless, no offence, but ranking keywords are still same easy/hard as it was before the panda. In fact, it's even easier because lots of competitors with loads of backlinks are gone to nowhere..

      The whole different question is how to STAY in first page without getting penalized or just pushed into the last page without any ideas why..
      You are correct about ranking, that's why I started over with a new site. If my site does make the first page, I indeed will try to do the correct seo to keep it there.


      This changes clearly shows the dominance of Google in Internet. Everyone has to depend on their algorithmic changes. Is this called cyber politics?
      Sad but true
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      • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
        Side note:

        I continue to monitor the last key phrase I ranked for, and now see that a youtube video is in the first position. It has over 600K views. Maybe now it's better to rank a video instead of a webpage....who knows?

        One good thing, the video I used for my last project is ranked on the second page at #14. So maybe not all is lost. If fact, this may have worked out to be a great backup plan. The video was embedded or linked in over 90 web properties and now has over 400 views. I am starting to see some visits to my old site again from this video. I will continue to use this video in my future article submits for this project.
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        • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
          This is interesting.....Day 7 and my site ranked on the first page at #7 for the phrase 'florida lotto patterns system'. This is just one of those rare phrases that someone searches every blue moon. Nothing to cheer about of course. Just thought I let you know the site received it's first visit from someone other than me.
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          • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
            Weekly update:

            Time line - 11 days

            Not much to report so far, site is still fairly new. Not ranking in the top 100. That is expected at this point.

            Website articles/posts = 7 - each one is personally bookmarked, G+,FB,Twit,Dig,Stumble,Del.

            Web 2.0 articles submits = 1 with 5 social bookmarks.
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            • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
              Weekly update:

              Time line - 19 days

              I was out of town most of the week so didn't do to much.

              Website articles/posts = 9 - each one is personally bookmarked, G+,FB,Twit,Dig,Stumble,Del.

              Web 2.0 articles submits = 4 so far, each with 10+ social bookmarks.

              Still no ranking.
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              • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
                Weekly update:

                Time line - 39 days

                Still not putting the time I want into this site, but results are looking good.

                Website articles/posts = 14 - each one is personally bookmarked, G+,FB,Twit,Dig,Stumble,Del.

                Web 2.0 articles submits = 10 so far, each with 1 backlink to home page and 1 to an interior page. I also submit 10+ social bookmarks to each one of this pages.

                Ranking:
                Day 21 = I noticed the site was at #64
                Day 25 = #57
                Day 35 = #42
                Day 39 = #16 on page 2 today.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by dollar_bill View Post

    In a nut shell, my goal is to post 5 original articles to site site per week with no internal linking.
    That will never work.
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  • Profile picture of the author hoffo28
    Have you ever tried Traffic Travis, because if you want a site to rank high in the search engines this software has it all, I currently have my site ranked at no.1 due to Traffic Travis.
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    • Profile picture of the author dollar_bill
      yes, I did use traffic travis before. I can't remember why I didn't care for it, maybe it was the cost of the upgrade.
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