SENuke X + Penguin = Success?

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I hear about all these people falling off of the SERPs with this new update from Google. I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about, my SEO strategy is about as lazy as it gets yet I'm seeing great results.

I've got a bunch of websites that rely exclusively on SENuke X to get ranked.

I've been running campaigns for 46 sites.
Of these 46 sites, 33 were indexed in the first 3 pages of Google pre-Penguin.
AFTER panda, ALL of the 33 websites without exception increased in ranking. 8 of the 13 sites that weren't ranked in the top 3 made their way there.

So my question is, anyone else experiencing some good results with SENuke X or other forms of extremely spammy backlinks post Panda?
#panda #senuke #success
  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    i dont think the quality of the backlinks was the issue in penguin, i think it was more about the anchortext.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
      Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

      i dont think the quality of the backlinks was the issue in penguin, i think it was more about the anchortext.
      Very interesting because in my campaigns I decided to use URLs instead of anchor text..
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  • Profile picture of the author Cigar2010
    Did you mean most of your senuke campage never affected .in reverse.they rank better than before
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    Most of the fall out came from people using public blog networks directly to their money sites. There was a lot of this happening thats why the fallout seems so big.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      It's a combination of, crappy spun with non relevant words in content and/or bad grammar, links that you lose have a very heavy effect (deindexing blog networks), and then the anchor diversity.

      Ofcourse it is so that the more low quality links you build the higher the chance they will get removed cause of spam, and that is exactly why you should focus on better links, as there is nothing that leads so fast too a penalty as losing links.

      If you think you get away by keep building low quality links then you haven't learned anything, as this is just the start and it only gets worse. Google ain't quitting after a few updates, they keep improving their alghorytm so better start working on a long term strategy that will last.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        If you think you get away by keep building low quality links then you haven't learned anything, as this is just the start and it only gets worse. Google ain't quitting after a few updates, they keep improving their alghorytm so better start working on a long term strategy that will last.
        The same people who were raving a few months ago about links like Senukex gave were the same people crying SEO is dead and their business tanked etc etc recently. More people will come on and make their testimonials to spammy links and then later they will come crying or give up when they get hit later.

        They will then say how Google is unfair, sign petitions and claim someone should occupy google.

        SenukeX links are mostly garbage and the only thing you will rank with is some weak serps that you would have been able to rank with better links anyway and have more stability. Since there are always people going after some weak terms the deception will continue - the sellers of these services and software will see to it.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Exactly, I always say, it's never too late to change. But people like a fast solution too much. I just mentioned in another thread where someone is selling a guestpost bot for $10,-, it doesn't really post guestposts but it find spots where to do it and has a ton of good footprints. It would cost me at least a few hours to find these footprints myself so better spend the 10 bucks. It's just a one time cost.

          Then you can outsource a good article for $10,- upload it to the site, perhaps you could even use the same article multiple times.

          OR you can spend the $10,- on the latest @ss kicking senukex template blasts at Fiverr :rolleyes: and see no ranking increasements and even if you do see some increasement it's most probably just temporarily cause Hey, you ain't gonna give up after 2 gigs right?
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          • Profile picture of the author chadseo
            can you please tell me where can I buy guestpost footprints
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        • Profile picture of the author Sylonious
          Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

          The same people who were raving a few months ago about links like Senukex gave were the same people crying SEO is dead and their business tanked etc etc recently. More people will come on and make their testimonials to spammy links and then later they will come crying or give up when they get hit later.

          They will then say how Google is unfair, sign petitions and claim someone should occupy google.

          SenukeX links are mostly garbage and the only thing you will rank with is some weak serps that you would have been able to rank with better links anyway and have more stability. Since there are always people going after some weak terms the deception will continue - the sellers of these services and software will see to it.
          In most affiliate niches no one is doing White hat SEO. So Google is only replacing one site with spammy links for another with spammy links. I see people ranking with blog comments and profiles, SMH.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by Sylonious View Post

            In most affiliate niches no one is doing White hat SEO. So Google is only replacing one site with spammy links for another with spammy links. I see people ranking with blog comments and profiles, SMH.
            That can be very true but why not break the circle and stay on top instead of having to build new sites each time?
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            • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              That can be very true but why not break the circle and stay on top instead of having to build new sites each time?
              If you spam in unique/different ways you are achieving the same thing as someone who manually does their backlinks 100% whitehat.
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              • Profile picture of the author Sylonious
                Originally Posted by Adevictus View Post

                If you spam in unique/different ways you are achieving the same thing as someone who manually does their backlinks 100% whitehat.
                Nail on the head.

                Yeah, very often they are forced to leave naked links, domains, random names, and sometimes the links don't even get posted properly and the URL is just there.

                It does look very natural.

                Very surprised I learned so much from you in this thread. I almost just left and wrote it off as some guy bragging or trying to sale something, but I'm glad I kept an open mind.

                So many bottom feeders and ambulance chasers it's good to find someone that's actually giving out solid advice on these updates.

                What I was trying to do to de-optimize was use the domain name for linking, but I see now that your technique is probably better.

                Thank You
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          • Profile picture of the author mosthost
            Originally Posted by Sylonious View Post

            In most affiliate niches no one is doing White hat SEO. So Google is only replacing one site with spammy links for another with spammy links. I see people ranking with blog comments and profiles, SMH.
            LOL, way to go Google
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      • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        It's a combination of, crappy spun with non relevant words in content and/or bad grammar, links that you lose have a very heavy effect (deindexing blog networks), and then the anchor diversity.

        Ofcourse it is so that the more low quality links you build the higher the chance they will get removed cause of spam, and that is exactly why you should focus on better links, as there is nothing that leads so fast too a penalty as losing links.

        If you think you get away by keep building low quality links then you haven't learned anything, as this is just the start and it only gets worse. Google ain't quitting after a few updates, they keep improving their alghorytm so better start working on a long term strategy that will last.

        nik0 ,
        after helping me out the other day I certainly respect you and your opinion a ton.

        Can you please reference where you heard about the cost of lost links, I have not seen any reference of that yet.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

          nik0 ,
          after helping me out the other day I certainly respect you and your opinion a ton.

          Can you please reference where you heard about the cost of lost links, I have not seen any reference of that yet.
          Well it was pretty clear after the deindexing of all the blog networks for example. Pages really got penalized hard and did not only get put back at where they were before those links, but dropped even harder after adding real strong links, so it was definetly a penalty for losing links and just adding a bunch of new ones, no matter whether they were high quality or not didn't help in any way.
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          • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Well it was pretty clear after the deindexing of all the blog networks for example. Pages really got penalized hard and did not only get put back at where they were before those links, but dropped even harder after adding real strong links, so it was definetly a penalty for losing links and just adding a bunch of new ones, no matter whether they were high quality or not didn't help in any way.

            that is interesting and makes sense. If google is going to go to the trouble to deindex a site you would figure there would be other consequences
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          • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Well it was pretty clear after the deindexing of all the blog networks for example. Pages really got penalized hard and did not only get put back at where they were before those links, but dropped even harder after adding real strong links, so it was definetly a penalty for losing links and just adding a bunch of new ones, no matter whether they were high quality or not didn't help in any way.

            another thought, wouldnt this mean that sites that have things like top commenter could be incredibly destructive to a site if you were frequently blog commenting on it?
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

              another thought, wouldnt this mean that sites that have things like top commenter could be incredibly destructive to a site if you were frequently blog commenting on it?
              Sorry maybe someone else can comment on that cause I am not familiar with "top commentor". I guess it moves your comment to some innerpages or something? I don't think that would hurt though, or do they remove your comments or something?
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              • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Sorry maybe someone else can comment on that cause I am not familiar with "top commentor". I guess it moves your comment to some innerpages or something? I don't think that would hurt though, or do they remove your comments or something?
                if you are one of the "top commenters" it puts your link in like a blogroll so it would appear on every page.

                then after a few days when you are not a top commenter you would lose all those links, in some cases that could be thousands
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                • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                  Originally Posted by dracoboar View Post

                  if you are one of the "top commenters" it puts your link in like a blogroll so it would appear on every page.

                  then after a few days when you are not a top commenter you would lose all those links, in some cases that could be thousands
                  Oh that yeah, strong point, the only thing I can come up with is that Google might only give out penalties when you lose a lot of links from different referring domains. At least that's the only way to let it make sense.

                  I did got 2 sites tanked after 500 retweets and the twitter accounts got banned, while we only did few other links to these sites, one of them even got completely deindexed and those retweets all come from the same platform one would think. So that kind of contradicts it again. Odd ****.
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                  • Profile picture of the author Love2Blog
                    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                    I did got 2 sites tanked after 500 retweets and the twitter accounts got banned, while we only did few other links to these sites, one of them even got completely deindexed and those retweets all come from the same platform one would think. So that kind of contradicts it again. Odd ****.
                    WHAT???? What the heck is that all about? Danny Sullivan, Matt Cutt's buddy would never get banned for 500 retweets, thats BS!
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                    • Profile picture of the author setsune
                      do you guys have any suggestion for "project linking" on senukex?

                      What kind of strategies that give you the best results? If you don't mind, please share it. Thanks.
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      • Profile picture of the author SEO Haven
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        It's a combination of, crappy spun with non relevant words in content and/or bad grammar, links that you lose have a very heavy effect (deindexing blog networks), and then the anchor diversity.

        Ofcourse it is so that the more low quality links you build the higher the chance they will get removed cause of spam, and that is exactly why you should focus on better links, as there is nothing that leads so fast too a penalty as losing links.

        If you think you get away by keep building low quality links then you haven't learned anything, as this is just the start and it only gets worse. Google ain't quitting after a few updates, they keep improving their alghorytm so better start working on a long term strategy that will last.
        That's definitely worth posting again.
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        • Profile picture of the author irishsolar
          Originally Posted by SEO Haven View Post

          That's definitely worth posting again.
          I have to disagree with that ... totally!

          If you do some research you will see complete garbage with complete garbage backlinks ranking in the SERPs.

          Example 1 - showing up on either page 1 or page 2 for a highly competitive weight loss search phrase depending on the Google server/index and searcher's location. At one stage 5 of these similar sites (suspiciously similar and probably created by the same spammer) all ranked on page 1 (Example 2 ranking in position 3 on universal search for a top money keyword).

          Example 1 Backlinks embedded in gibberish content spammed in the review section for a truck!

          Are these the improvements to the algo you were referring to :confused: :confused: :confused:
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  • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
    Senukex is a good tool to make multiple type of backlinks. I use Highly spun articles and many anchor texts to keep it natural. Make more backlinks to backlinks. This is working for easy and medium competition niches.
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  • Profile picture of the author sharmaravi08
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    Yes, senuke is really working and you can see this by reading the reviews I get for my fiverr gig. People are loving it.
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    • Profile picture of the author cjimmy
      Originally Posted by sharmaravi08 View Post

      Yes, senuke is really working and you can see this by reading the reviews I get for my fiverr gig. People are loving it.
      Hi, i'm banned at fiver for no reason at all (sucks) but i really want to order your service. How can we work this out? Can i pay you directly to paypal? I can not send PM so maybe you can send me a PM with your emailadress so that i can contact you?

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  • Profile picture of the author TheProgrammer
    I have used many tools like SEnuke X, SErobot and the one in my "sigh", i always use fresh and quality written content to create backlinks on web2.0 and article sites. many of my sites are on page 1 on good keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author alphadude
    People are still yet to come to a full conculsion about the effects of Penguin, it seems.
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    People who did SEO the smart way (SENuke is an extremely powerful program if utilized correctly) will continue to excel no matter what update is released.....

    In my opinion at least
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    • Profile picture of the author irishsolar
      Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

      People who did SEO the smart way (SENuke is an extremely powerful program if utilized correctly) will continue to excel no matter what update is released.....

      In my opinion at least
      I completely agree. It's not the tool that is effective or ineffective it's the SEO strategy that is used. Tools like SEnuke X just make it easier.

      As for all this talk of Google improving their algorithm by going after spam links all I can say is ... the only thing improving is Google's bottom line!

      Google isn't as smart as everyone gives them credit for and Penguin was about penalising anchor text usage. You can see the garbage in the SERPs still a year after Penguin was launched.

      That same garbage that is ranking high has just as much spammy backlinks as the sites that were hit EXCEPT they have a more varied anchor text ratio which just happens to fit in with Google's latest "improvements" to their algo!

      Most of them are not as relevant as the sites that got hit either because most businesses that use SEO also use copywriters and professional web designers.

      Penguin was about increasing adsense revenue and throwing SEOers off the scent when Google started placing their own comparison websites as "sponsored" links (complete with white background looking like an organic listing) above everyone else.

      There are searches now where the real estate above the fold is completely controlled by Google money-making schemes aka adsense ads and sponsored google site links - not even 1 organic listing.

      Wake up people this was never about targeting spam it was about targeting people who actually care about their websites and traffic - the people who needed to turn to advertising after Penguin! It wasn't even aimed that much at professional SEOs because they knew we would figure it out.

      I think Google will eventually implode. Since Sergey and his mate sold off Google to the highest bidder (greedy banks...and we all know what they are like) the only thing they are interested in is improving their revenue.

      So until Google blows themselves up we will just have to keep rolling with the punches and adjusting. No doubt they will throw another spanner in the works but it won't be an improvement to the SERPs or even the algo. It will be just another tightening of the screw as they introduce a different ridiculous rule to the game.

      This is of course just MHO. But, IMHO, I think everyone just needs to keep up-to-date with the latest changes in SEO by listening to people who test, test and test some more and we should stop trying to please Google.

      Play them like they play us. :p
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      • Profile picture of the author pahosa
        Originally Posted by irishsolar View Post

        I completely agree. It's not the tool that is effective or ineffective it's the SEO strategy that is used. Tools like SEnuke X just make it easier.

        As for all this talk of Google improving their algorithm by going after spam links all I can say is ... the only thing improving is Google's bottom line!

        Google isn't as smart as everyone gives them credit for and Penguin was about penalising anchor text usage. You can see the garbage in the SERPs still a year after Penguin was launched.

        That same garbage that is ranking high has just as much spammy backlinks as the sites that were hit EXCEPT they have a more varied anchor text ratio which just happens to fit in with Google's latest "improvements" to their algo!

        Most of them are not as relevant as the sites that got hit either because most businesses that use SEO also use copywriters and professional web designers.

        Penguin was about increasing adsense revenue and throwing SEOers off the scent when Google started placing their own comparison websites as "sponsored" links (complete with white background looking like an organic listing) above everyone else.

        There are searches now where the real estate above the fold is completely controlled by Google money-making schemes aka adsense ads and sponsored google site links - not even 1 organic listing.

        Wake up people this was never about targeting spam it was about targeting people who actually care about their websites and traffic - the people who needed to turn to advertising after Penguin! It wasn't even aimed that much at professional SEOs because they knew we would figure it out.

        I think Google will eventually implode. Since Sergey and his mate sold off Google to the highest bidder (greedy banks...and we all know what they are like) the only thing they are interested in is improving their revenue.

        So until Google blows themselves up we will just have to keep rolling with the punches and adjusting. No doubt they will throw another spanner in the works but it won't be an improvement to the SERPs or even the algo. It will be just another tightening of the screw as they introduce a different ridiculous rule to the game.

        This is of course just MHO. But, IMHO, I think everyone just needs to keep up-to-date with the latest changes in SEO by listening to people who test, test and test some more and we should stop trying to please Google.

        Play them like they play us. :p
        Pretty interesting theory you have there, as they say "follow the money trail..."

        Thanks for sharing your opinion!
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  • Profile picture of the author IsaacWendt
    Yeah I think the most important thing is the anchor text, I have been testing just using my url and I'm ranking for all my main keywords, I almost can't believe it. And all my older site which over 50% targeted Anchor text are no where to be found.

    I also have senuke x just wondering If you are using scraped, scraped + spun or original content.

    Because I have been testing if it makes any difference at all.
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    • Profile picture of the author Adevictus
      Originally Posted by IsaacWendt View Post

      Yeah I think the most important thing is the anchor text, I have been testing just using my url and I'm ranking for all my main keywords, I almost can't believe it. And all my older site which over 50% targeted Anchor text are no where to be found.

      I also have senuke x just wondering If you are using scraped, scraped + spun or original content.

      Because I have been testing if it makes any difference at all.
      I buy original articles for all of my sites I use some of those + spun
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  • Profile picture of the author boxoun
    If senukex is working then exploit the hell out of it while you can. Not every project has to be a long term project.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pyramid Linkers
    Senuke is definitely still effective. My company uses a mix of automated and manual submitted web 2.0 posts to rank our customers. The key is to use quality content, vary your anchor text and upload relevant pictures and videos to your blog posts.
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  • Profile picture of the author candres79
    I use SEnukex and have not seen a problem with any of my sites either... it's not really the tool, but how you use it!
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    the tool doesnt create spam.... the user does
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    • Profile picture of the author Rukshan
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      the tool doesnt create spam.... the user does
      Yes, This is the best explanation. Some experts don't understand it :rolleyes:
      I use anchor text variation, Highly spun articles, variation of user names etc to avoid footprints. Still majority of sites get high amount of SERP.
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    • Profile picture of the author retsek
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      the tool doesnt create spam.... the user does
      IMO, anything created by the program is spam. Building out several Web 2.0 sites just for the purpose of linking out elsewhere is by definition spam. It really doesn't matter whether it was done automatically or manually, the result is the same.

      You guys need to wake up. Google does not want to be counting links that don't give off an editorial vibe.

      If amateur operations like http://www.linkdetective.com/ can do it, what makes you think Google can't do it many times better and use it against sites whose profiles are made up completely of these low quality links.
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    • Profile picture of the author GeraldNitram
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      the tool doesnt create spam.... the user does
      BEST. EXPLANATION. EVER. The tool wouldn't run by itself in the first place. The user clicks the start button to make it post a lot of stuff. The user also has control over how much links the program is going to make for a certain campaign. It's really sad that these tools get negative reviews right off the bat without some people realizing that it's actually the user who's plotting all those spam.
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      • Profile picture of the author Karan Rawat
        Originally Posted by GeraldNitram View Post

        BEST. EXPLANATION. EVER. The tool wouldn't run by itself in the first place. The user clicks the start button to make it post a lot of stuff. The user also has control over how much links the program is going to make for a certain campaign. It's really sad that these tools get negative reviews right off the bat without some people realizing that it's actually the user who's plotting all those spam.
        The users never create Spam, Only newbies do...! lolzzz
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Then
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      the tool doesnt create spam.... the user does
      SENukeX is just a tool. And Danny hits the nail. It's the user who mindlessly use these tools to spam.

      You see, I can also spam the entire internet by hiring a bunch of outsource staff to create links 24/7.

      So it's not the tool, not the system, it's YOU, the user.
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      • Profile picture of the author KingMe
        I have only one site of a friend to work on. As it is only one site, I have no use of SENuke (at least I think so). Can anyone share some simple SEO so to make the site visible in Google locally. The site is rentmane.in. I am not allowed to post the link.
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  • senukex still works and even good you have to make the campaigns look natural and then it still works. most go for the easy way and then there are problems.

    if you take 10 minutes more time to make good spunned names and other details and you use different anchor texts it is still really good software to use for your ranking.

    After almost every update people think it's the end of something but you have to make your strategy better every time and not after a update or so.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylonious
      Originally Posted by digitalreinforcement View Post

      senukex still works and even good you have to make the campaigns look natural and then it still works. most go for the easy way and then there are problems.

      if you take 10 minutes more time to make good spunned names and other details and you use different anchor texts it is still really good software to use for your ranking.

      After almost every update people think it's the end of something but you have to make your strategy better every time and not after a update or so.
      No, it's not good enough just to spin anchor text now. They are saying that half of your links need to be your domain or bare/naked URL. That's what they consider natural linking.
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      • Profile picture of the author jinx1221
        Originally Posted by Sylonious View Post

        No, it's not good enough just to spin anchor text now. They are saying that half of your links need to be your domain or bare/naked URL. That's what they consider natural linking.
        Then you can just do this:

        <a href=http://www.yourdomain.com>{keyword|wvw.yourdomain.c0m|otherkeyword|yourdomain .com|clickhere}</a>
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        • Profile picture of the author Sylonious
          Originally Posted by jinx1221 View Post

          Then you can just do this:

          <a href=http://www.yourdomain.com>{keyword|wvw.yourdomain.c0m|otherkeyword|yourdomain .com|clickhere}</a>
          Yeah, plus a lot of platform diversity as well. I've noticed some sites ranking with a large variety of spammy links, GSA style.
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    • Profile picture of the author shuaishuai888
      Originally Posted by digitalreinforcement View Post

      senukex still works and even good you have to make the campaigns look natural and then it still works. most go for the easy way and then there are problems.

      if you take 10 minutes more time to make good spunned names and other details and you use different anchor texts it is still really good software to use for your ranking.

      After almost every update people think it's the end of something but you have to make your strategy better every time and not after a update or so.
      thank you !
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  • Profile picture of the author faisalmaximus
    I am running 1 campaign per week for each website, and within 4-5 weeks, I am getting better ranking for medium competitive keywords. For more competitive keywords, it takes around 8-9 weeks.

    If you can use SEnuke X in proper way, then this is the best SEO tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author anes amrani
    SENUKE X is still the most powerful SEO tool, I have a lot of sites ranked No1 by this tool even after Panda and Penguin updates.
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  • Profile picture of the author essex14
    I had used a few tools on my blog and got to #1 but after the penguin update I lost all of my rankings for every page... Evidently my disclaimer page was the only page ranking.

    Should i give up on this site or turn around and vary my anchor text links with some updated content...
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  • Profile picture of the author geraeldo
    I was using SENuke X on Panda and now on Penguin my sites still ranked well. The fallen sites are sites that is not using SEnuke X.
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    • Profile picture of the author bestcreativeseo
      Yes, I have also not seen andbad effect of SEO. Penguin is related to anchor texts and not backlinks..

      Originally Posted by geraeldo View Post

      I was using SENuke X on Panda and now on Penguin my sites still ranked well. The fallen sites are sites that is not using SEnuke X.
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  • Profile picture of the author dbwebdesignz
    From what i gather its more about the anchor text as apposed to the link quality itself, just make sure the ratio is not too high
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  • Profile picture of the author awj888
    if you have been keeping anchor text varied, using url as anchor, and just blasting like a madman then everything would be fine. SENukeX is still great software if you wish to be lazy, they are coming out with a new XCr version which will add even more types of sites so they will be the top top top when it comes to SEO automation software
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  • Profile picture of the author hardcorenuker
    i can testify that sites ranked by senuke werent affect by penguin and panda.
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  • Profile picture of the author risingrank
    yes, good to know senukex is still working very well post penguin. absolutely helpful info.
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  • Profile picture of the author NXmarketeer
    Originally Posted by Adevictus View Post

    I hear about all these people falling off of the SERPs with this new update from Google. I honestly don't see what all the fuss is about, my SEO strategy is about as lazy as it gets yet I'm seeing great results.

    I've got a bunch of websites that rely exclusively on SENuke X to get ranked.

    I've been running campaigns for 46 sites.
    Of these 46 sites, 33 were indexed in the first 3 pages of Google pre-Penguin.
    AFTER panda, ALL of the 33 websites without exception increased in ranking. 8 of the 13 sites that weren't ranked in the top 3 made their way there.

    So my question is, anyone else experiencing some good results with SENuke X or other forms of extremely spammy backlinks post Panda?
    I guess that most people that their sites were killed were probably spamming links with fiverr gigs and low quality articles/services... If you don't do that then Google just loves you! So simple.
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  • Profile picture of the author capone2009
    It does not really depend on the types of links you build but how you build them. 100% exact anchor text won't cut it anymore..
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Shaw
    I swear by SENuke X. One of the most important factors post penguin is speed/consistency, drip feeding quality links and mixing up the anchor text is the way forward.

    Google want to provide its users accurate useful information on a topic. If you look at IM from this angle in the future you will not go far wrong.
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  • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
    It still works only if you know how to use it properly. I wouldn't be able to do any effective SEO without it (and ScrapeBox). Gone are the days when I would just load up the default Full Monty template twice a month and laugh at the other 9 websites on page 1. I had to spend time actually designing my own template for my campaigns based on what works post-penguin (like, no more 50,000 backlinks from viagra-themed sites).
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  • Profile picture of the author rumi298
    I think any automated submission should avoid for penguin. Google does not prefer any automated tools.
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    • Profile picture of the author Vitiositas
      Originally Posted by rumi298 View Post

      I think any automated submission should avoid for penguin. Google does not prefer any automated tools.
      Google doesnt know the difference between automated and manual submissions.
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    • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
      Originally Posted by rumi298 View Post

      I think any automated submission should avoid for penguin. Google does not prefer any automated tools.
      How does Google know if a person or tool did it? If a person can do 10 backlinks per day, I can program SENukeX to do 10 backlinks per day as well! If a person can post to xyz site to do backlinks, I can program SENukeX to post to xyz site too to build backlinks.

      It's not SENukeX that can get you in trouble with Google, it's the user. People who buy these programs and run everything at default using default templates and settings. People who do not bother to add their own sites as to reduce footprint. People who use one profile for their entire campaign. Etc.

      Remember the old adage: "Blame the carpenter, not the hammer."
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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    Well, it's how you use the tool not the tool itself. The tool may help because of the system and the strategy, but in the end, it's going to be you yourself that will make the decision whether or not to spam.
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Originally Posted by jasono View Post

      Well, it's how you use the tool not the tool itself. .
      Its the tool itself. Its what it is designed to do and the links it gives are mostly hot garbage. You all can kid yourself all you want. I see the same lame excuse for this software all the time....its you that have to click the buttons so its on the user. Well the user has to click a button to get a virus from a site too

      Just manually build some web 2.0's or create your own blog sites and blast the hell out of them (within reason) with Senuke.
      Poor strategy. At present the links SenukeX gives very little juice you'd be better off using scrapebox for that . At least you could get some links with juice going to your web 2.0 and no monthly $147 going out of your pocket.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

        Poor strategy. At present the links SenukeX gives very little juice you'd be better off using scrapebox for that . At least you could get some links with juice going to your web 2.0 and no monthly $147 going out of your pocket.
        It's funny that more people do not think of that. I mean if you are going to just blast junk, at least blast junk off of pages that have some actual PR.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          It's funny that more people do not think of that. I mean if you are going to just blast junk, at least blast junk off of pages that have some actual PR.


          Marketing, hype and the fact that people like shiny looking toys (guys especially) even if they don't work good. Scrapebox just has a nineties look and not trying to punch out alot of new features. But yeah still a little funny when you can get it for $57 one time and you have to pay $147 a month for the weak toy that SenukeX is.
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          • Profile picture of the author Pleiadian01
            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Marketing, hype and the fact that people like shiny looking toys (guys especially) even if they don't work good. Scrapebox just has a nineties look and not trying to punch out alot of new features. But yeah still a little funny when you can get it for $57 one time and you have to pay $147 a month for the weak toy that SenukeX is.
            Whether it is shiny or not it's working for me and many other people I speak to.

            I agree it is on the expensive side but its all relative dependant on the return.
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            • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
              Originally Posted by Pleiadian01 View Post

              Whether it is shiny or not it's working for me and many other people I speak to.

              I agree it is on the expensive side but its all relative dependant on the return.
              Okay, all arguments aside about the actual results with SEnuke... If the tactics used by SEnuke X actually work, then why would you not use Magic Submitter instead? It does everything SEnuke does and more, but is less than half the monthly price.
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            • Profile picture of the author capone2009
              Originally Posted by Pleiadian01 View Post

              Whether it is shiny or not it's working for me and many other people I speak to.

              I agree it is on the expensive side but its all relative dependant on the return.
              It's just like with nearly any other tool. Some people know how to use it the right way and some don't. If you use a tool that costs $150 per month but make $2000 in return it is quite a good investment, right?
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              • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
                Originally Posted by capone2009 View Post

                It's just like with nearly any other tool. Some people know how to use it the right way and some don't. If you use a tool that costs $150 per month but make $2000 in return it is quite a good investment, right?
                But if you use a tool that costs $150 month when there is another tool that does the exact same thing and more but only costs $67/month, that is just plain dumb.
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              • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                Originally Posted by capone2009 View Post

                It's just like with nearly any other tool. Some people know how to use it the right way and some don't. If you use a tool that costs $150 per month but make $2000 in return it is quite a good investment, right?
                Malarkey. Heard it a hundred times and its still wrong. there is no magical way to use SenukeX in order to turn crappy links into good links. Sure in some drop down weak serps you can rank a site here and there using almost anything but its still junk links and they have little juice. Plus nowadays they set you up for nothing but a take down. There is not a person who knows SEO that wouldn't smile seeing a site ranking off of SenukeX links.

                Not just smile but grin because they know how easy the serp will be and how easy it is to have the site banished to siberia.
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                • Profile picture of the author Pleiadian01
                  Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                  Malarkey. Heard it a hundred times and its still wrong. there is no magical way to use SenukeX in order to turn crappy links into good links. Sure in some drop down weak serps you can rank a site here and there using almost anything but its still junk links and they have little juice. Plus nowadays they set you up for nothing but a take down. There is not a person who knows SEO that wouldn't smile seeing a site ranking off of SenukeX links.

                  Not just smile but grin because they know how easy the serp will be and how easy it is to have the site banished to siberia.
                  Ok. So what would you suggest as an alternative? What kind of links would you suggest creating instead using a tool?
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                  • Profile picture of the author retsek
                    Originally Posted by Pleiadian01 View Post

                    Ok. So what would you suggest as an alternative? What kind of links would you suggest creating instead using a tool?
                    http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-giveaway.html

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                  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                    Originally Posted by Pleiadian01 View Post

                    Ok. So what would you suggest as an alternative? What kind of links would you suggest creating instead using a tool?

                    I'd suggest getting in context links and with some PR. For the price of $149 a month you could get a steady stream of them even if you paid for them and STILL save money. You don't need to use ANY tool for that


                    Retsek answer questions posed to you not me because you can't speak for me. That link is ONE technique. Unlike some people here ( present responder included ) I have more than one way to skin a cat and no you won't ever know all of them. I aint telling
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                    • Profile picture of the author retsek
                      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

                      Retsek answer questions posed to you not me because you can't speak for me. That link is ONE technique. Unlike some people here ( present responder included ) I have more than one way to skin a cat and no you won't ever know all of them. I aint telling
                      I was simply pointing out to the good fellow your recent thread demonstrating the use of another software that basically does the same thing SenukeX does.

                      I find it hilarious that there seems to be a "magical" way to use Magic Submitter effectively, while "there is no magical way to use SenukeX". Your own words.
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                      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
                        Originally Posted by retsek View Post


                        I find it hilarious that there seems to be a "magical" way to use Magic Submitter effectively, while "there is no magical way to use SenukeX". Your own words.
                        I have said before that people all by their lonesome based on their own lack of knowledge and imagination entertain themselves and heres another case of it . LOL

                        So um where did I say there was a magical way to use Magic submitter? You are just flat out fabricating as you did in that thread too stating what was never said to create a strawman. Perhaps sometime in the future you could actually have a response that doesn't make up something that was never said.

                        Theres no magic with MS. I've told you countless times but you just can't get it. I can add any kind of link in Magic submitter or I wouldn't use it. I add high PR websites that I own and can post in context links with juice. When SenukeX can add any kind of sites I want to use then it won't need to convert junky links to great ones by some mystical process. You just add good links right in. So no they don't do the exact same thing.

                        Why is this concept soo hard for you to grasp? DO you finally get it?

                        Its the ability to add any link opportunity within MS (and the price less than half of SenukeX) nothing to do with Magic or some special way of learning how to use it. Its what the program is designed to do.

                        IF you still can't get the difference between a program that comes with set link opportunities and one in which you can put in ANY kind of link resources theres no hope for you.
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          Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

          It's funny that more people do not think of that. I mean if you are going to just blast junk, at least blast junk off of pages that have some actual PR.
          That is exactly what I have hard time understanding. It just doesn't make any sense what so ever.

          Its like people know that a few links from pages with pr is much more worthy than 5000 links from pr n/a sites, but they still would rather buy the latest one, just because there is a bigger number of backlinks to be gained.
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      • Profile picture of the author Pleiadian01
        [QUOTE=Poor strategy. At present the links SenukeX gives very little juice you'd be better off using scrapebox for that . At least you could get some links with juice going to your web 2.0 and no monthly $147 going out of your pocket.[/QUOTE]

        Well that is something I will look into if you say I will gain more link power from Scrapebox.

        A poor strategy that works. So not so poor for me. Many people just blast there main site with Senuke.

        So what would you suggest? I have 30 blog sites and 30 web 2s all with unique content. They all rank and index well but obviously if I can pass on more link juice to my main site through using another tool...
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  • Profile picture of the author Aileen Phang
    Yep, Jasano is right. It's not about the tool actually, it's all about how you use that software.
    Example: Everybody said spinner is dead? do you really think spinner dead?
    Here is the logic: Human is human, engine is engine.. The engine brain cannot be compare with human brain. Right?

    If you use every tool wisely you will gain a result, but if you it wrong way.. Ehmm... you know what happen next.
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  • Profile picture of the author Pleiadian01
    Just manually build some web 2.0's or create your own blog sites and blast the hell out of them (within reason) with Senuke. Submit all your origianl nice content to these sites with varied anchor links back to your money site. Mixing it up with brand/url/click here etc.

    Basically hide your trash behind these sites.
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    This thread is gone to be very informative for anyone... Thanks to all members to make it informative.
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  • Profile picture of the author marketwarrior06
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    As you have used the direct website link that's the reason you are saved. In the Penguin update the keyword was a main issue. Contents are always king and high quality links are always welcome by Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author RossIT
    i only have a few websites that im running, about 5, but when i am upto your level in mid 40's i will probally need to invest in something like SENuke X (if i want a social life) i think its only when people abuse it you get slapped by Google!
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