Since there are many sites hurt lately I had a idea (not a solution but a preparement for the worse)

by nik0 Banned
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Just an idea:

When you penalize an innerpage you can rename that innerpage, rename the innerlinks pointing to that page and build new links to it. Piece of cake, worked extremely well a couple of times, you can even use the same content cause it's not content that gets penalized but the specific exact url.

As we can't rename the url of the homepage we can do something else as a pre caution before we start building links, so this applies mostly to new sites or sites that you plan to build links to again.

Not sure if this is flawed thinking, I don't think so but here we go. Your very homepage has different types of urls for Google:

homepage.com
homepage.com/index.html
homepage.com/index.php
homepage.com/home.php
homepage.com/home.html

The "internet" treats all these 5 as exactly the same. Obvious the ones with the words behind the / depends on how the file in your public_html is named.

My site is for example homepage.com/index.php , same like the most typical Wordpress site, so what I can do is point all my links to the exact url: http://homepage.com/index.php , now if I go to wild with my links and my homepage gets penalized I can rename index.php to home.php, and gone are all the bad links pointing at my site, and thus I got rid of my penalty pretty easily (same like renaming an innerpage url helped), while all the rest of the structure remains intact and can help my homepage rank again.

But if you build all links to homepage.com there is nothing to rename.

What you think? Do I miss something here or is it just a genius idea?
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Oh btw, dont point your links at index.html cause when I type in homepage.com/index.html despite that my file is called index.php I get redirected to a page that says: "Oops, The Page You Are Looking For Cannot Be Located." so then the bad links would still point to your site. When I type in homepage.com/home.php or homepage.com/home.html this does not happen.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    the other way is to build links to 301s and then if the links turn bad you can turn the 301s off which protects your money site....

    I have been testing this with some great success especially with my offline clients :-)
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      the other way is to build links to 301s and then if the links turn bad you can turn the 301s off which protects your money site....

      I have been testing this with some great success especially with my offline clients :-)
      Yes that would definetly work as well, at the moment I am testing something with url shorteners btw, and then specifically a subdomain url shortener as I have some really great ideas in mind for that.
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      • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        Yes that would definetly work as well, at the moment I am testing something with url shorteners btw, and then specifically a subdomain url shortener as I have some really great ideas in mind for that.
        make sure that the url shortener has a long life :-)

        I read somewhere that bit.ly is a risky one as its .ly domain and they have strict laws.

        I have been using old domains to use as 301s :-)
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        • Profile picture of the author tylerherman
          Why don't you just build links to specific pages and none to your homepage, which picks up natural links in it's own. Or only build quality handmade links for your homepage and risk lower quality links to pages you know you can just delete.

          On a related note. I think people should really begin to be careful with your primary keywords and only do serous link building for related terms and long tail. Getting a penalty on your primary term is game over.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

          make sure that the url shortener has a long life :-)

          I read somewhere that bit.ly is a risky one as its .ly domain and they have strict laws.

          I have been using old domains to use as 301s :-)
          We use one in Iran

          Let's see how that works out lol.

          Old domains is an option but we have some other idea's with it, for example my "secret sauce" package can only be used "once" per domain, so by pointing it at subdomains we pass by that restriction, and we have 50+ url's to do it on, great test btw, so with 50 domains it get's a little more expensive (unless you buy .info's ofcourse), we could also use web2.0 but not sure how to redirect them (or which ones allow to redirect them).

          @Person about sitewide penalty, yeah you got a point but most penalties are not sitewide, and MANY penalties are caused by losing links to that specific url, and by removing that url or renaming it you easily get rid of the penalty and can build new links safe again. I've seen url's that lost links and after adding new links the rankings only dropped more, and that were some really strong links we builded.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    When i link build I really do mix it up I use to just build to my home page but I soon started deep linking and I saw better results deep linking.

    On client sites I like building links to 301's as you are protecting yourself but not only that you have a lot more control.

    I took a hit from a client who folded just recently that owed me a fair few grand... no probs I just changed the 301 to a new site and my time was not wasted...

    You need to protect your money sites

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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      When i link build I really do mix it up I use to just build to my home page but I soon started deep linking and I saw better results deep linking.

      On client sites I like building links to 301's as you are protecting yourself but not only that you have a lot more control.

      I took a hit from a client who folded just recently that owed me a fair few grand... no probs I just changed the 301 to a new site and my time was not wasted...

      You need to protect your money sites

      You're one smart SEO'er, I can give you that

      A question though, you say you changed the 301 to a new site, but it sure had to be in the same niche I suppose to get the anchor benefit from that, and as you like deep linking, you now do a lot of 301s or you just stick to the homepage? I think it might hurt when you do a lot of 301's with other domains to one site right?
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      • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        You're one smart SEO'er, I can give you that

        A question though, you say you changed the 301 to a new site, but it sure had to be in the same niche I suppose to get the anchor benefit from that, and as you like deep linking, you now do a lot of 301s or you just stick to the homepage? I think it might hurt when you do a lot of 301's with other domains to one site right?
        Haha thanks I am not smart I just test a lot :-) I spammed the hell out of 2 domains to see what it would take to get penalised....lol

        Oh yes the domains are in the same niche :-) but if a client doesnt pay up or goes bust you just go to their competitor :-)

        Using 301's may not always work but using a mixture of them and direct linking you are protecting yourself both from google and financially.

        you need to look at making everything look natural :-)
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