legal Cease and Desist notice for outbound link

by hpad06
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I have a website in ALN network so it has many outbound links posted by ALN.

Now I have received emails and threatened for legal Cease and Desist notice if I don't remove the links to one website in my wordpress website.

Personally I think it is a joke threatening people for outbound link, also they are the people who used ALN and posted the article/link on my website, now they threaten me for not removing it.

What do you guys think?
#cease #desist #legal #link #notice #outbound
  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    This is actually kind of funny. Tell the person who emailed you that since he placed the content on your website you have a "clean up charge" of $25

    welcome to the wonderful world of Penguin and negative seo where blackmail and extortion is a legitimate business practice.
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  • Profile picture of the author footfoot
    'buyer's remorse' post blog network meltdown
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  • Profile picture of the author crystalq
    Remove it right now or they will contact your host and they will take your entire site down. Trust me, I got shut down last week by my host until I removed the "offending link".

    People are going nuts after the penguin update and they are looking for anyone to blame, your site probably shows up in their GWT dashboard as "unnatural backlinking".
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    • Profile picture of the author hpad06
      Originally Posted by crystalq View Post

      Remove it right now or they will contact your host and they will take your entire site down. Trust me, I got shut down last week by my host until I removed the "offending link".

      People are going nuts after the penguin update and they are looking for anyone to blame, your site probably shows up in their GWT dashboard as "unnatural backlinking".

      So your hosting company didn't ask you before take your site down?
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    • Profile picture of the author MaxWMedia
      Originally Posted by crystalq View Post

      Remove it right now or they will contact your host and they will take your entire site down. Trust me, I got shut down last week by my host until I removed the "offending link".

      People are going nuts after the penguin update and they are looking for anyone to blame, your site probably shows up in their GWT dashboard as "unnatural backlinking".
      Are they allowed to take down your website because of this?
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      • Profile picture of the author mosthost
        Originally Posted by MaxWMedia View Post

        Are they allowed to take down your website because of this?
        If any 'upstream providers' gets a DMCA they will threaten the next company in line who will remove the site, no questions asked.

        It's totally wrong, though. Outbound links are not protected by the DMCA! It's just BS out of an SEO company that is scrambling for their lives.

        Imagine how happy the customers were when the got all that free traffic.

        That joy was replaced by ANGER when they got their unnatural links notice. You know they called the SEO company bitching. Now those guys are up to their old tricks, this time harassing not so innocent ALN webmasters.

        Really there's probably not much reason to keep a deindexed ALN website around.
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  • Profile picture of the author paulgl
    Why on earth would you ever allow anyone to post articles
    and links on your site? For laughs? You don't know how
    to moderate and delete? Or turn it off? They add
    nothing to your site. Nothing. Unless you run a forum,
    there is no google-reason to allow any such nonsense.

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    • Profile picture of the author DeskCoder
      Originally Posted by paulgl View Post

      Why on earth would you ever allow anyone to post articles
      and links on your site? For laughs? You don't know how
      to moderate and delete? Or turn it off? They add
      nothing to your site. Nothing. Unless you run a forum,
      there is no google-reason to allow any such nonsense.

      Paul
      It was for ALN. You have to add a PR2+ website to their network in order to post articles on other people's blogs. Basically, you buy an expired PR2+ domain, throw wordpress on it, and let people post to it. Then you can post to everyone else's PR2+ domains.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by DeskCoder View Post

        It was for ALN. You have to add a PR2+ website to their network in order to post articles on other people's blogs. Basically, you buy an expired PR2+ domain, throw wordpress on it, and let people post to it. Then you can post to everyone else's PR2+ domains.

        and then you get a link profile that looks like garbage and your whole site gets a Penguin torpedo.
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  • Profile picture of the author mosthost
    Originally Posted by hpad06 View Post

    I have a website in ALN network so it has many outbound links posted by ALN.

    Now I have received emails and threatened for legal Cease and Desist notice if I don't remove the links to one website in my wordpress website.

    Personally I think it is a joke threatening people for outbound link, also they are the people who used ALN and posted the article/link on my website, now they threaten me for not removing it.

    What do you guys think?
    They should pay and not make threats. I would also sue them if they try and send a false DMCA.

    They put the link there. They were attempting to spam and got caught.
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    • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
      Originally Posted by mosthost View Post

      They should pay and not make threats. I would also sue them if they try and send a false DMCA.

      They put the link there. They were attempting to spam and got caught.
      How do you know that they put the link there? Unfortunately the likely hood that you could prove they did would be slim to none.

      Second, if the companies got a big enough budget, you can bet that taking them to court wouldn't get you far at all. In fact, you'd probably be the one coughing up the legal expenses for both parties at the end of the day.

      Do you really want to get caught up in some legal battle over some crappy ALN link that you have on your sites? After all, what good is your ALN website doing these days anyways?
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by RevSEO View Post

        Do you really want to get caught up in some legal battle over some crappy ALN link that you have on your sites? After all, what good is your ALN website doing these days anyways?
        Yeah frankly I couldn't be bothered . IF the company has enough clout they can take their case to Google and have your whole site deindexed. Now if you could prove they placed the links there then fine but these days that could even happen in a negative SEO campaign.
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Sigh, it's a big joke, but just humour them and move on with your life. You don't need the hassle.

    I have had people politely asking me to remove links from a site I had in ALN - when I looked into it I realised the site got deindexed weeks ago, so I did better than they asked and killed the site.

    It's all a ridiculous panic - OK, so people got burned but they would probably be better off doing positive campaigns that will offset their crappy BL profile than trying to hunt down all the links they spent untold sums on getting in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Lol, like someone is going to sue you because your linking to them, that's funny.
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    • Profile picture of the author RevSEO
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Lol, like someone is going to sue you because your linking to them, that's funny.
      If the company has a large enough budget, and has been had a significant drop in rankings (and thus suffered financial loss), you can bet your ass the company would sue you if you didn't remove a link to their website.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by RevSEO View Post

        If the company has a large enough budget, and has been had a significant drop in rankings (and thus suffered financial loss), you can bet your ass the company would sue you if you didn't remove a link to their website.
        Good luck proving a link caused financial loss, especially considering SERPs fluctuate non-stop.

        What are they going to do, subpoena Google & force them to hand over their algo. to prove a link was responsible for dropping their page in the SERPs?
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        • Profile picture of the author crystalq
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Good luck proving a link caused financial loss, especially considering SERPs fluctuate non-stop.

          What are they going to do, subpoena Google & force them to hand over their algo. to prove a link was responsible for dropping their page in the SERPs?
          The people who complained to my host weren't going on about "financial loss" they were going on about intellectual property theft & copyright infringement.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by crystalq View Post

            The people who complained to my host weren't going on about "financial loss" they were going on about intellectual property theft & copyright infringement.
            Copyright infringement isn't the same as creating links to another sites pages.

            In OPs case the other site obviously didn't care about the content, they cared about OP removing the link, the content was irrelevant.
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        • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Good luck proving a link caused financial loss, especially considering SERPs fluctuate non-stop

          Don't be ridiculous Yuke. With Google sending out unnatural link notices and specifying to many people what kinds of links are unnatural all they need to show is a reasonable likelihood. Its a civil matter and does not have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

            Don't be ridiculous Yuke. With Google sending out unnatural link notices and specifying to many people what kinds of links are unnatural all they need to show is a reasonable likelihood. Its a civil matter and does not have to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
            That's just silly.

            You can't use a service & then complain when it works. Any judge would be pissed If you wasted their time with such foolishness.

            Sounds like another case for Judge Judy, just be warned she has a short fuse.
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    • Profile picture of the author crystalq
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Lol, like someone is going to sue you because your linking to them, that's funny.
      Its not funny when you pay hundreds of dollars to get your site up and running and two weeks later its in a 403 status! and yes they were serious they were a PR6 site with well known expensive lawyers!

      Just so you all know, I own a few link directories, it was a link DIR that got shut down. These people were going after blogs & article dirs too I saw the whole list.

      @hpad06
      First I received an email from the company, I did not read it since I hardly ever check the sites actual email accounts.

      Two weeks later, I received an email from HG ticket support, they gave me 48 hours to remove the links. I didn't read this either as these mails do not go to my main email address, if I did I would have removed the links right away.

      So, when I randomly checked my site 2 days after my final warning I found the site & on 403 status. I went through my emails to see what was happening and found the DMCA letter(talk about having a heart attack lol) that HG sent me.

      I got onto hg right away, they were pretty good, turned my site back on and let me delete the links and all is running fine now. The company threaten to sue HG as well if the link wasn't deleted or they didn't turn the whole site off.

      There were around 100+ other sites on that list too.

      What I've learned...?
      Setup a link removal system for your DIR's & Blogs so you can get rid of the links right away.

      Imagine if SOPA passed. The site would have been completely Deleted!!
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  • Profile picture of the author dracoboar
    Here is a great idea , since they are implying your link is hurting them, they are also inherently implying your site is spammy and low quality, you should sue them for slander
    LOL


    As I said earlier this is a great business model build garbage sites and link to people then charge them to remove the links, no worries about ranking and the lower quality the better
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Also, you can't just go out & spam your links all over the net & then a year later say "Oh I change my mind".

    That's like buying a sandwich at McDonalds, eat the sandwich & then saying:

    "I need my money back, I changed my mind, I didn't really enjoy the sandwich, I ate the sandwich, but I didn't enjoy it".
    I feel like I've some how entered the "Twighlight Zone".
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  • Profile picture of the author crystalq
    @yukon

    Yes, I know. They just had one link with a description in my link directory put there by ?? not me!.

    There was zero "intellectual property theft or copyright infringement"
    That's how their lawyer classed it in their DMCA to get their links out of my DIR.

    Like I said before, they were going after ALN, Blogs & DIRs too there were over 100 sites that they wanted their "links" removed from.
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