Had a good day today with adsense, question about amazon on site

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Just wanted to give progress with my adsense sites. I have a total of 5 adsense sites now and yesterday I finally broke the $100 barrier for the day, then today I followed up with making $200 for the day with adsense. Looks like if this keeps up Im going to have to upgrade to at least a vps, right now using shared hosting with godaddy. Total visits today across all 5 sites, a little over 5000 unique visitors. Just need to continue building out sites and building back links.

Quick question, would you recommend to direct some of that traffic on my adsense sites with links to amazon product pages related to the sites to see if I can also get some sells from being an amazon affiliate? Since the idea would be getting traffic to amazon and let them sell the product or at least having the cookie where they might buy something else?
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  • Profile picture of the author the goat
    Absolutely. It's always great to diversify. Build a list while you're at it too. Congrats on the success you're experiencing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    If a certain Adsense page is not performing well, it might make sense to promote affiliate products.

    In most cases, a website is just easier to monetize with Adsense than affiliate products. You might consider a PPL strategy, where you find an affiliate who pays you for each lead you get him.

    If you get to single page a couple hundred uniques a month, that alone might be enough to make $200 - $500 in affiliate commissions.

    Test, tweak and adjust!
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  • Profile picture of the author seomagik
    If you are earning money with adsense does not necessarily mean that you will earn the same( or more ) with amazon. Some traffic is great for adsene, but sucks for Amazon. That depends on the type of the site, and type of the traffic.
    The best way for you to know for sure which monetizing method is better for your sites is to test. Put amazon ads for a few days and compare the results.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
    Thanks for the info everyone! Im pretty pumped about adsense, Im still seeing success. After 4 days Im averaging over $100 per day on adsense. I actually had to order a vps today because my sites became very slow on shared hosting. So I think Im getting the hang of this.

    But I still want to get into amazon affiliate program so I can diversify my earnings.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alex Mensah
      Hey, amazing to hear your results Sillysoft. From here just scale up but Im sure you are already planning to. Wow, think of what 10 sites, 15 sites will do for your income. Can't wait to hear all about it

      Originally Posted by Sillysoft View Post

      Thanks for the info everyone! Im pretty pumped about adsense, Im still seeing success. After 4 days Im averaging over $100 per day on adsense. I actually had to order a vps today because my sites became very slow on shared hosting. So I think Im getting the hang of this.

      But I still want to get into amazon affiliate program so I can diversify my earnings.
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  • Profile picture of the author snakeyes37
    sillysoft,

    What strategy are you currently using with your adsense sites? Are they micro niche or authority sites?


    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by snakeyes37 View Post

      sillysoft,

      What strategy are you currently using with your adsense sites? Are they micro niche or authority sites?


      Thanks
      Micro niche. Its very simple process for me. I dont use any paid software, I just use googles keyword tool. I find the low hanging fruit and "bottom feed". Specifically I find a generic term, usually 3 words, that has low competition and no more than 5000 searches a month. But the key for me is that generic term must have at least 100 different variations. So just for example purposes lets say there is a keyword term "I love cars", then there is "I love red cars", "I love blue cars in summer" etc. Once I see a keyword term that matches this I then go to Google and search a few of these keywords and see what shows up. If there are a bunch of micro niche sites showing up then I dont go for it, but if there is a bunch of sites on the first page from places like ask.com or yahoo answers then I will jump all over it. This part is something you have to learn as you go along, to me its a gut feeling/decision based on experience.

      See I dont make my money with people going to my main site, I make all the money in the long tail keyword matches. So if I registered a domain ilovecars.com, then I use on page seo via content and url to make sure I will match for long tail keywords. So in this case I will have a page dedicated to i love blue cars in summer with the keywords in the url.

      As I go over this process again and again I find better ways to do this, plus as a developer I create database driven sites so all I do is copy one site to another, switch a few settings and Im done. Im doing all of this with 7 sites as of right now, just launched my 7th 2 days ago and already I almost had 200 unique visitors yesterday.

      There is more to this process but this is the gist of it, nothing I have said here is ground breaking, or new. Hope this helps anyone out.
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      • Profile picture of the author xdarata
        I'm very interested in your strategy. Apparently, micro niche can be very powerful. This is often a conversation after a few Google to update. Is micro niche still have a place in search engines, especially Google?
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        • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
          Originally Posted by xdarata View Post

          I'm very interested in your strategy. Apparently, micro niche can be very powerful. This is often a conversation after a few Google to update. Is micro niche still have a place in search engines, especially Google?
          I think micro niche sites have a place still with Google. But it just cant be spammy, it needs to be relevant to your users. There is no way someone would mistake my sites for anything else and click a link without knowing what they would be clicking. Meaning noway someone who likes sewing would accidentally run across my sites. My traffic is very targeted to the subject at hand.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanWalker
    Do you do any backlink building for the sites? If so, what do you use and how much?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by SeanWalker View Post

      Do you do any backlink building for the sites? If so, what do you use and how much?
      I do not use any services for back links. I make all back links manually by hand. I find news articles related to my niche and every night I actually read the article and put a legit comment with a link back to my site. Eventually the back links start working for you as more and more people pass your link around the net either socially, bookmarks or just simple back links from different websites. One site it only took me 3 months to average over 2k uniques a day with a PR3. Remember, the new google updates will penalize you for unnatural/spammy back links. Doing it yourself is the only way IMO.

      This is very time consuming but well worth it to me in the long run, to give you an example yesterday I made over $200 in one day with adsense only.
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  • Profile picture of the author Crazzykylex
    You have 5 sites??? How do you even manage them?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by Crazzykylex View Post

      You have 5 sites??? How do you even manage them?
      I'm sure no one will believe me, but I figured out types of sites that require hardly any maintenance. In fact I average maybe 1 hour per site per month. Being a developer helps automate a lot of things as well. The main work actually is done building back links. This all started several months ago when I had it working for the man and wanted to make my own money. I had one side site that I threw up a couple of years ago that was getting decent traffic. So wanting to make money I learned about adsense, read up on how to optimize it and implemented what I learned. A few months later I landed my biggest adsense check, $1600, and I ended up selling this site for over 10k on flippa.

      After I sold it I decided to continued researching adsense and optimizing it and decided to launch more sites. Fast forward to today, its now going on 5 months since I started my first site for my second round of sites, I made almost 2k last month and so far this month Im averaging over $100 per day on adsense, with yesterday being my best with over $200 for the day. My goal is to continue perfecting this and make as many sites as possible, if this keeps up I could quit my day job and do this full time.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanWalker
    Also, how do you get a site to rank so fast? 2 Days is nuts! Good job man!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by SeanWalker View Post

      Also, how do you get a site to rank so fast? 2 Days is nuts! Good job man!
      I have outlined my process in previous posts. If you want to know just search posts from me, its in there somewhere.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanWalker
    I guess my downfall is picking the right keywords. I have 3 sites online that just won't rank. How do you analyze first page competition? Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by SeanWalker View Post

      I guess my downfall is picking the right keywords. I have 3 sites online that just won't rank. How do you analyze first page competition? Thanks
      Yes picking the right keywords is tough. I actually stumbled across a niche that has been very easy to rank for and all of my sites are in this niche. I wont leave this niche because I continue to find more and more sites in this niche.

      Like I said, I look at who is found for the keywords on the front page. If its a bunch of big time players like amazon, yellow pages or other micro niche sites etc I tend to stay away. But if its full of just general sites like ask.com or about.com or yahoo answers then I will move forward. Sometimes I will take on keywords that has other niche sites in search results, but only if I feel I can out rank them with my SEO techniques. But again this is gained from experience and gut instinct.
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  • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
    Originally Posted by Sillysoft View Post

    Just wanted to give progress with my adsense sites. I have a total of 5 adsense sites now and yesterday I finally broke the $100 barrier for the day, then today I followed up with making $200 for the day with adsense. Looks like if this keeps up Im going to have to upgrade to at least a vps, right now using shared hosting with godaddy. Total visits today across all 5 sites, a little over 5000 unique visitors. Just need to continue building out sites and building back links.

    Quick question, would you recommend to direct some of that traffic on my adsense sites with links to amazon product pages related to the sites to see if I can also get some sells from being an amazon affiliate? Since the idea would be getting traffic to amazon and let them sell the product or at least having the cookie where they might buy something else?
    Great job on breaking $100.....

    Phil
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by PhilJensen View Post

      Great job on breaking $100.....

      Phil
      Thanks! One day Im hoping to have earnings like yours in your sig. Can I ask one question? How many sites did it take to get to that point? Right now I have under 10.
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      • Profile picture of the author PhilJensen
        Originally Posted by Sillysoft View Post

        Thanks! One day Im hoping to have earnings like yours in your sig. Can I ask one question? How many sites did it take to get to that point? Right now I have under 10.
        I have about 30 sites right now, but only 13 to 15 are producing revenue.

        Cheers

        Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanWalker
    When you build links at night, do you worry if they are nofollow?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by SeanWalker View Post

      When you build links at night, do you worry if they are nofollow?
      Nope, I will post links even if they arent linked at all, just text. Because I have found that though search engines might not pick it up, humans will copy the url and paste into the browser. Then once the user is there you have a chance for them to click an ad and or forward the site to another person or book mark the page. So I dont care if its a no follow or just plain text, I will post it either way.
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  • Profile picture of the author SeanWalker
    do you use any tools to find the places to post comments, or do you just use seoquake and google away? Thanks again for answering my questions!
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by SeanWalker View Post

      do you use any tools to find the places to post comments, or do you just use seoquake and google away? Thanks again for answering my questions!
      No tools, just googling around
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  • Profile picture of the author deejayvirg
    How often do you write content?Do you have writers?How much do you pay for your content?Thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by deejayvirg View Post

      How often do you write content?Do you have writers?How much do you pay for your content?Thanks.
      I write ZERO content. I pay nothing for content as I dont need content outside of what is already on the site. Like I said these are truly passive income sites. I hardly have to do anything with them once they are launched. The main amount of time I spend is creating manual back links to these sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author snakeyes37
        Originally Posted by Sillysoft View Post

        I write ZERO content. I pay nothing for content as I dont need content outside of what is already on the site. Like I said these are truly passive income sites. I hardly have to do anything with them once they are launched. The main amount of time I spend is creating manual back links to these sites.

        Wait, so you don't have any articles on your sites? I don't get it...And you don't update them once they go live?
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        • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
          Originally Posted by snakeyes37 View Post

          Wait, so you don't have any articles on your sites? I don't get it...And you don't update them once they go live?
          These are sites that provide information that people are looking for. No need to add articles or update content as the information does not need to be updated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rafay Zafar
    Congrats man. I follow a very similar strategy of building a handful of authority sites that are easy to manage and should give me a some consistent passive income. If you have a site doing over 1000 uniques a day, i suggest looking to either direct ad sales or marketplaces like buysellads.com and buyads.com

    Personally i am not a big fan of affiliate marketing. i just think it is not a business model but more of a reseller opportunity. You only get paid a commission after a sale is made and that takes some work - inserting affiliate links, widgets, tracking and what not. Essentially you are a nothing more than a salesman or salesforce for a business. On the other hand, when you sell direct ads, you are following the proven media/publisher business model. You just sell traffic and leave the conversion part to the advertiser. This is the exact model followed by the most successful online businesses including yahoo/aol and all other portals, google and all other search engines, facebook and all other social networks and off course offline electronic and print media.

    so my vote is for selling more adspace and dishing out amazon.
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  • Profile picture of the author dbwebdesignz
    Imagin adsense banned you theb you would be broke. Do not put all your eggs in one basket. Try amazon and maybe even clickbank.

    However what you have done is brilliant well done and I wish you all the best
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by dbwebhosting View Post

      Imagin adsense banned you theb you would be broke. Do not put all your eggs in one basket. Try amazon and maybe even clickbank.

      However what you have done is brilliant well done and I wish you all the best
      Your absolutely right and this is what concerns me which prompted my initial question. Should I use the traffic Im getting from my adsense sites to also promote products via amazon affiliate to diversify my earnings? Or should I just start fresh with a different method/site to make money with something like amazon?
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  • Profile picture of the author dbwebdesignz
    Your websites are doing fine, if you currently have 5 Adsense and then 5 amazon and you was to loose your Adsense account then you would have 5 websites with no revenue, i diversity it on the same sites creating amazon products within the content as if i am talking about that specific product. Use a URL in the picture to the amazon product affiliate link and also Adsense ads in the sidebars and widgets.

    Also if you need hosting drop me a PM, might be able to give you a nice price.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by dbwebhosting View Post

      Also if you need hosting drop me a PM, might be able to give you a nice price.
      Doh! Just purchased a mid level vps from Liquidweb.
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  • Profile picture of the author deejayvirg
    Most of the sites do have no-follow tag added to their comment system.The thing is that this can barely help you in link building.Do you search more for those with do-follow?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by deejayvirg View Post

      Most of the sites do have no-follow tag added to their comment system.The thing is that this can barely help you in link building.Do you search more for those with do-follow?
      Well if you are only trying to link for search engines then I guess it would be pointless. I don't add links just for search engines, I also add for humans to visit my site. Search engines don't click ads.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidreid
    Hello,

    This really is a great read. I was wondering if there is any specific theme you use for all of the WP sites?

    Quick Edit: Also I was wondering do you send your backlinks straight back to the homepage only or do you link to the pages with the longtail keywords in the URL?

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by davidreid View Post

      Hello,

      This really is a great read. I was wondering if there is any specific theme you use for all of the WP sites?

      Cheers
      I hate wordpress, I dont use WP. Everything is custom made from scratch by me.
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      • Profile picture of the author davidreid
        Originally Posted by Sillysoft View Post

        I hate wordpress, I dont use WP. Everything is custom made from scratch by me.
        Ah I see! I am a Web Designer by trade so the custom route maybe the way to go with this. I am sure the back end dev knowledge you have comes in extremely handy as I think I would need a CMS to get things going.

        I edited my last post and actually edited a question so you may have missed it:

        I was just wondering if you send all your backlinks back to the homepage or do you send some to the longtail keyword urls?

        Cheers
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        • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
          Originally Posted by davidreid View Post

          I was just wondering if you send all your backlinks back to the homepage or do you send some to the longtail keyword urls?

          Cheers
          I just send them back to the main page of my site, though sometimes if the article is very specific to a sub page of mine then I might put a link directly to the sub page. But 99.9% of the time I just add a link back to the home page of my sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author davidreid
    Thanks very much for the quick reply! Great inspiration.
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  • Profile picture of the author Double J
    Can you recommend any good courses on creating Adsense Sites. I am not familiar with creating Adsense sites
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by Double J View Post

      Can you recommend any good courses on creating Adsense Sites. I am not familiar with creating Adsense sites
      Cant help you there, sorry. Never used courses, I would recommend though reading up on Adsense's blog and video channel on youtube. A lot of great information.
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      • Profile picture of the author snakeyes37
        Are these authority sites that your making? Or are they sites with just a contact us, about, and privacy page with the main page consisting of the information.


        Thanks.
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  • Profile picture of the author Intrepreneur
    Can you be more specific?

    If the site doesn't have content written for it..

    How is there content on the site?
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    • Profile picture of the author Sillysoft
      Originally Posted by Intrepreneur View Post

      Can you be more specific?

      If the site doesn't have content written for it..

      How is there content on the site?
      I never said there wasn't any content. I said I didn't have to create ongoing articles. The content is a one time thing consisting of information people look for everyday online. I just optimize it where its easy to find via search engines.
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