I'm Scared!

12 years ago

If he had done well in your other industry then you can approach with confidence. By the way, do you clean the carpets yourself or employ people?

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sovereignn

12 years ago

Best of luck to you $500 is a bit steep though I hope you're getting A LOT of keywords with that

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VHSEOMike 12 years ago

It depends on the keyword. If your keyword has good value, then do not mind paying 500 dollars per month, but if you are not sure about the potential of your keyword, then it will be a waste of your money and time. Do not forget, first page and first spot on the first page has a lot of difference. Do your keyword research well.
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gearmonkey 12 years ago

Originally Posted by sovereignn

Best of luck to you $500 is a bit steep though I hope you're getting A LOT of keywords with that

Are you kidding? $500 is a bargain if his SEO guy is legit and does good work.
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Black Hat Cat

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by fmac

I used one SEO guy already with not much luck at all. Now I am trying another that guarantees 1st page results and knows my niche market real well. He has gotten other in my industry on the 1st page so I feel pretty confident but I'm still scared! $500 a month will be worth every penny if my phone is ringing off the hook! I cant wait but I've been burned before!

Your phone likely won't be ringing off the hook even if he does get you to page one. And $500 a month is a rip off. I bet there is so little traffic for your keywords that you couldn't even spend $500 a month on ppc.

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seocentralservices

12 years ago

Originally Posted by fmac

I used one SEO guy already with not much luck at all. Now I am trying another that guarantees 1st page results and knows my niche market real well. He has gotten other in my industry on the 1st page so I feel pretty confident but I'm still scared! $500 a month will be worth every penny if my phone is ringing off the hook! I cant wait but I've been burned before!

WE can help you with your site mate. We offer $234 per month.

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dmtaylor247

12 years ago

You get what you pay for. I would stay away from any cheap automated mass of crap seo, especially on this forum. I'm sure he'll do a good job for that price.

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fmac

12 years ago

Thanks guys for all the answers. It is more then I spent with the other guys but they did nothing. My new guy is working on my places listing as well as 2 organic keywords all at the same time. He is bitching about the other SEO company who listed my company with different names and such in directories. Says it screws up your places listing called citations or some crap? Now he is going through all the ones he can find and fixing them. He definitely seems like he is way more involved as I constantly get links I have to confirm, directories, forums, etc... He even made a blog on my website which I think is cool. He also posts classified ads everyday for me to get me some immediate business. I have gotten calls. He seems legit but I have been burned. That's why I found this place and I study and learn. I just don't want to do this for work. I like what I do and I just need an honest SEO guy this time.

BTW, I actually went and found him on one of my forums I'm on in our cleaning industry. He doesn't market his services at all and is actually a very busy cleaner but has answered a few questions regarding SEO on forums that made great sense. Then I checked out his work and another site he is working on and then contacted him.

Oh, I do the work myself and sometimes with a helper.

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ilovechinesefood

12 years ago

Originally Posted by fmac

Thanks guys for all the answers. It is more then I spent with the other guys but they did nothing. My new guy is working on my places listing as well as 2 organic keywords all at the same time. He is bitching about the other SEO company who listed my company with different names and such in directories. Says it screws up your places listing called citations or some crap? Now he is going through all the ones he can find and fixing them. He definitely seems like he is way more involved as I constantly get links I have to confirm, directories, forums, etc... He even made a blog on my website which I think is cool. He also posts classified ads everyday for me to get me some immediate business. I have gotten calls. He seems legit but I have been burned. That's why I found this place and I study and learn. I just don't want to do this for work. I like what I do and I just need an honest SEO guy this time.

BTW, I actually went and found him on one of my forums I'm on in our cleaning industry. He doesn't market his services at all and is actually a very busy cleaner but has answered a few questions regarding SEO on forums that made great sense. Then I checked out his work and another site he is working on and then contacted him.

Oh, I do the work myself and sometimes with a helper.

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So you hired a guy who is a cleaner to do your SEO for $500 a month and you think this is a good idea?

You realize most directories and forums have minimal affect on SEO. Additionally, setting up a blog takes 2 mins. So you shouldn't be mpressed about this.

You should ask him what he plans to do specifically. We can tell you whether it's effective and how long the task takes.

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fmac

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ilovechinesefood

So you hired a guy who is a cleaner to do your SEO for $500 a month and you think this is a good idea?

You realize most directories and forums have minimal affect on SEO. Additionally, setting up a blog takes 2 mins. So you shouldn't be mpressed about this.

You should ask him what he plans to do specifically. We can tell you whether it's effective and how long the task takes.

Thank you for all the help, my new guy is very transparent and will answer anything I ask so I did. He said that directories is how you can get your places page citations and get it ranking, he has me on forums within my industry that are do-follow with keywords in my signature as well. He said that what he is doing for me is what got him to the top as well as others in the industry. Said it could take up to two months for some keywords and and six months possibly for tough ones like I would like to rank for carpet cleaning Los Angeles.

He also said that most SEO guys don't post daily classifieds ads to try to get me some immediate work while he works on my keywords.

Does this all sound true and good?

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seorules

12 years ago

hi mate, I will recommend you an SEO company base in the Philippines, I use them almost a year, I like their services, you can get also personal VA if you want, It is lexorsoft.net

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fmac

12 years ago

Originally Posted by seorules

hi mate, I will recommend you an SEO company base in the Philippines, I use them almost a year, I like their services, you can get also personal VA if you want, It is lexorsoft.net

I don't understand this writing and obviously is a foreign company soliciting my business. This is who I think the other company had do my SEO as my new guy says its all screwed up. Especially my directories and onsite SEO. He is worried he says that they made a ton of spammy links which he said google is really cracking down on and actually dropping your rankings sometimes?

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ilovechinesefood

12 years ago

Lol no offense but i had a look at your blog and it's pretty awful. First off, you have the same topic for each entry. How to clean up (insert random food or object) off your carpet.

"For carpet cleaning services in Manhatton Beach and Hermosa Beach, call us now." No need to repeat these EVERY entry. We get the point.

The whole point of a blog is to get backlinks (bc people will enjoy it and share) and to entertain your customers. This will accomplish neither.

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Banned 12 years ago

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fmac

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Chicagoremodeling

Here's what i would do. I would pay him 25% at first to begin with and when you will notice an improvement in your ranking that's when i would pay him another 25% that way you wont get ripped off.. and make sure he does white hat seo!

He won't do it and has a waiting list since hes a solo guy. I found him on one of my cleaning forums, he didn't find me and does not advertise his SEO work at all.

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fmac

12 years ago

Originally Posted by ilovechinesefood

Lol no offense but i had a look at your blog and it's pretty awful. First off, you have the same topic for each entry. How to clean up (insert random food or object) off your carpet.

"For carpet cleaning services in Manhatton Beach and Hermosa Beach, call us now." No need to repeat these EVERY entry. We get the point.

The whole point of a blog is to get backlinks (bc people will enjoy it and share) and to entertain your customers. This will accomplish neither.

Ok, he said that he did only the latest blog which does have backlinks for my keyword and all the others are from the prior company I used that he said screwed up my directories as well which affects my places listing. something called citations? He also said he did not make the website and only has optimized the the Torrance and Hermosa page so far as well as working on my places page. He said the home page is all screwed up with to many title tags or something and that he cannot adjust it as it's not even in the dashboard with all the other pages. So currently he is working on 3 things at once for me. Is that good?

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Dentist

12 years ago

Some of so-called masters' comments is just so funny.

$500/month for good SEO is just nothing... and I bet if someone tells you it is too much they don't know what SEO is. BTW, by good SEO, I mean a SEO that gives you many many keywords including competitive ones. Few keywords don't do much... You have to build authority websites with many keywords on the first page ranking. No matter what your niche or area is, there are many keywords that give you the prospects. We have done it many times and every time returned with many leads worth 10s of times of investment.

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dmtaylor247

12 years ago

For a carpet cleaning site I would say he doesn't need many keywords, only 4 decent ones worth bothering about. The price depends on your skill level and the methods you use. I would say anything less than 500 is automated spam and too risky for a business site, so it's a reasonable charge for the keyword and whitehat seo. These keywords are a piece of cake for anyone who knows what they're doing.

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Devel

12 years ago

He promises 1st page position? just check his website keyword, if he can do the same things than this guy perhaps not just talking, pretty lame if he can not ranking well.

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dmtaylor247

12 years ago

No he is doing the right things. I have plenty of business websites ranking number one from directories, niche forums, classifieds and blog posts. It's alot safer for your site rather than blasting it with senuke links, it helps to brand your business and gives it a unique profile, he will have you on the first page soon, he knows what he's doing.

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fmac

12 years ago

Originally Posted by dmtaylor247

No he is doing the right things. I have plenty of business websites ranking number one from directories, niche forums, classifieds and blog posts. It's alot safer for your site rather than blasting it with senuke links, it helps to brand your business and gives it a unique profile, he will have you on the first page soon.

Man that makes me feel better. Thank you. Oh I knew I would get others wanting me to use them and bash him but this guy seems different and is extremly confident, almost cocky with his skills. I really like that he is an open book. I've just been burned before so I wanted to see what some would say here.

Thank you very much

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dmtaylor247

12 years ago

Originally Posted by fmac

Man that makes me feel better. Thank you. Oh I knew I would get others wanting me to use them and bash him but this guy seems different and is extremly confident, almost cocky with his skills. I really like that he is an open book. I've just been burned before so I wanted to see what some would say here.

Thank you very much

People have their methods, I won't play down any seo, I do it all, blackhat, whitehat, greyhat, but what he is doing is 100% legit and will get you long term results and a #1 spot on Google.

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fmac

12 years ago

Originally Posted by dmtaylor247

People have their methods, I won't play down any seo, I do it all, blackhat, whitehat, greyhat, but what he is doing is 100% legit and will get you long term results and a #1 spot on Google.

I will report back as time goes by. He said people will say that they can do it better, faster, etc.. But he said how he does it they way it will keep me there. He said it will take longer however I won't get blasted as Google does it's updates every so often. He himself dominates 2 keywords and is swamped. He has another guy that is on the 1st page for a very competitive keyword in our industry. This is why I searched him out.

Thanks again for making me feel more comfortable and understanding SEO a little better.