Immoral technique to increase Youtube Video Rankings?

I 100% understand why you see this as wrong and douche-like, un-ethical perhaps. I am not taking your words as insults because i pretty much expected it.

Hi Terra, thanks for your reply.

I am not looking for satisfaction, i dont beleive i should have to be satisfied with the work i have done in order to accept the rewards.

If i might rephrase my way of thinking which is understandably un-ethical to many of you. I suppose a lighter way of saying it is that i have the will to do anything it takes to be able to support myself financially and my family.

Many succesful people have got where they are today through hard-work and talent. However i would argue there are equally as many who have "cheated".

I am not saying i am going to do this technique, i am more interested in what the general view on it was. But i want to make money, not have respect, not be satisified as so to speak. I think that is probably a large difference between me and the next person.

They want money yes, but they also want the power and respect that comes with it. So maybe in your eyes it seems the only route to this goal is to work your way up the ethical way.

And im going to leave on quite a brutal note, but when it comes to money, i really care little about reducing someones own success in making money to improve my own. I know it sounds horrible, but i guess thats just the way i am.

And dont get me wrong, i am not at all saying i like the thought of other people being unsuccesful. Ofcourse i want others to succeed, thats why i am a part of this forum. I have made a fair amount online through both helping others and in providing services (Mainly SEO), more ethical routes.

But for the purpose of this argument/debate i will stand alone just to say i dont beleive there is too much wrong in methods such as these, depending on how you wish to be viewed.

I understand and respect your comments, but there is a basic argument from my side and i hope this will spark some form of contreversial discussion.

Thanks,
-Michael

Haha!

Nothing like being short, sweet and to the point.

Terra

Asshattery worthy of a beatdown.

It's all relative...

For instance. After watching one of your video's on Facebook.

I thought...what a douce

Because...

You wanna test the waters to make "WSO's" that apparantly show people how to sell crappy deals.

E.G. "Make Money Online" "Weight Loss" "How To Get Your Ex Back" "How To Pick Up Women"

And from where I'm standing...that makes you really douchey

@OP

I reckon your heads in the wrong place. Personally I find all that stuff a waste of good energy.


~just my thoughts...

Yeah...that about sums it up. Use your creativity and energy to create good ****

I agree Wendy.

As for the karma bit, I used it as it seems to be the popular phrasing these days.

However to me, "what goes around comes around" and "karma" are the same principle as "whatsoever a man sows, that also shall he reap." Different wording, same principle and one I do believe in.

Terra

@Michael_Lee:
You know you just shot yourself in the foot, don't you?

Honestly, why would you publicly proclaim in a forum of over 500K potential buyers of your stuff, that you would cheat to knock out a competitor and that it's a "game"?

If you ever launch a WSO, how many people will look at your profile and your previous posts, and say to themselves - "This guy would cheat to get ahead, so I'm not buying his WSO!"

You see, your karma is already sealed...

wow, just wow.

Actually, I had it happen to me as well. I had an IM review youtube channel - i was brutally honest about IM products, what sucked and what was good. Had over 100 videos, and suddenly one of the MOST honest ones i had - with just DAMN GOOD information on how to really make money online was flagged and deleted. 1 day later another was flagged and deleted, which banned my account for a week. 2 days after that a 3rd one was, and my account was deleted.

I made another acct 2 weeks later to try to start over, the very DAY I put up a video - it was flagged by users and deleted.

Kinda pissed me off people did that, but hey - I'm still making more than them even without those videos up anymore

So yeah, don't be a douche man - if you can't compete with the big boys dont be a little b*tch about it.

suggesting that something might happen if i did? Terrified

Ken i have explained myself above, i do not expect other people to necessarily agree with this, but maybe to at least understand a little.

Also most of my clients are Offline, i do not rely on this forum to generate income for myself. Karma doesnt come into the equation, i have not used this technique, again i will stress that because it seems to many of the repliers that i am already doing this.

-Michael

Your points are fair. However "Anything for a buck" i feel is different to the way i think about it, that quote suggests i would do anything for $1. It is more like i would do anything to be succesful. It doesnt make it much better but i understand your view.

Yes i realise this, however my audience for income does not originate from this forum, nor do i intend it to be. I also have no intention of releasing WSO's, especially typical informational products - It is not something i excel at, nor is list-building (As you can see my views are quite controversial and they would not go down well with a list.)

-Michael

I am not blind to it, however after consideration and your comment about the future it does seem like a much larger threat now.

If i might ask, what is everyones view on say... buying backlinks to improve your ranking.

Lets say you have a site in Google ranked #2, what is the difference between buying backlinks to rank #1 or reducing your competitiors rank to #2, so you take the #1 spot ?

Im not saying its right, but i fail to see any major difference.

As for the family and children seeing this post, i do not feel i would have anything to explain. Yes it is a jerk move, but i have explained my thoughts in this thread.

The majority of the replies are saying this will stop people from doing business with me. It's hard to understand, i would not cheat in the sense of stealing, conning or misleading someone. I am talking only about in the sense of ranking a site or a video.

-Michael

Maybe thats a good thing though, maybe it will set me straight.

-Michael

Thanks for your input John, it was my impression that a flagged video goes under moderation by Youtube before they decide whether to remove a video or account?

Is that wrong?
-Michael

I'm all for it when it comes to jumping above the competition with as little effort as possible. With this you can climb above your competitor and give them a chance to jump back ahead of you. However destroying the competition is totally different and if you do that to them I hope someone does it back to you. It's hard enough doing SEO at the moment without some idiot destroying your work which you could be relying on for an income.

Well put rowanman!

It's just like in drag racing. A driver will win the race more times than not in focusing on himself, his car, the tree lights and getting to the finish line rather than focusing on what the driver in the next lane is doing.

Getting caught up in mind games causes you to lose focus on the important things and can come back to bite ya in the end.

Terra