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How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature? This is one of the most competitive and highly searched keywords in my industry nation wide. How much would you charge and I don't want to get there and then get blasted off the top because you did something wrong in googles eyes.

Thank you guys
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  • Profile picture of the author BrandonT
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature?
    A good rule of thumb when purchasing SEO services is to immediately discount anyone who guarantees results beyond 'improvement' in ranking, for the most part.

    Another good idea might be to check around the Warrior Special Offer forums, or the Warriors for Hire forums, and find people who have posts that deal with the services you're looking for.

    That should be a good start for you, hope it helps!
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    • Profile picture of the author xpirtdesign
      Originally Posted by BrandonT View Post

      A good rule of thumb when purchasing SEO services is to immediately discount anyone who guarantees results beyond 'improvement' in ranking, for the most part.

      Another good idea might be to check around the Warrior Special Offer forums, or the Warriors for Hire forums, and find people who have posts that deal with the services you're looking for.

      That should be a good start for you, hope it helps!
      I agree with his comments. I've purchased a few services from a couple of different people here and so far, so good. Check reviews from other people in this forum and that will tell you whether or not to try it!
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      • Profile picture of the author ajajahmedshaikh
        Depends upon on your hard work on the keywords u can bring in 2 months

        but u need to vary your anchor text and build HR PR Links and from all sources
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    These are the 2 pages you need to out rank. I know the 2nd URL isn't showing in the SERPs, just know that 2nd page is borderline breaking into the SERPs for the [exact] same keyword (carpet cleaning los angeles).


    • PR3
    • hxxp://www.b r i t e c a r p e t c l e a n e r s.com

    • PR2
    • hxxp://www.b r i t e c a r p e t c l e a n e r s.com/google.html

    Remove the blank space in the URL & change hxxp to http.


    They are also doing some major on-page keyword stuffing (lol).
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  • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
    Thank you so much everybody for the help on how to find a good seo person. Everybody I talk to says most are rip offs and scam artist and can even hurt your online presence. Or maybe they think they know but they really dont o do things google doesn't like?
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  • Profile picture of the author Dentist
    I don't think anybody can guarantee you the top 3 results. Even you can't guarantee top ten or top anything according the terms of Google. Anyways, I checked the competition for you for top 10 for both keywords "Carpet Cleaning Los Angeles" and "Los Angeles Carpet Cleaning". Ranking in top 10 is not that difficult and my estimation is it takes 3-6 months. For top 3 although I never ever promised that to anyone and to me promise of ranking top 3 for just one keyword is just wrong, I would say it roughly takes 6 months to one year to get ranked. Charges of $1000/month but not for one keyword for top 3 (It is not just the right way of ranking in your case in my opinion, the core of SEO success is keyword analysis and you don't seem to know much about it...). If it was within your budget and interest PM me for more detail...
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucaslee
    However if SEO service dare to guarantee with escrow payment then one can consider ...
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    • Profile picture of the author Dentist
      Originally Posted by Lucaslee View Post

      However if SEO service dare to guarantee with escrow payment then one can consider ...
      I seriously have never heard anyone get their money back from a SEO company that didn't deliver (have you?), but I have heard a lot of companies guarantee...
      Anyways, before I get heavy in SEO, I used some of these guaranteed services. Well... You know the rest... For the beginners I was very happy to see second page results after several months for a few competitive keywords and then no answers to emails or phone calls... Anyways, back then I didn't know how companies can manipulate SEO reports to always show something exciting happening(I know now they did it back then, second page was easy for those keywords, first page needed work), but I don't find that a good way of doing business (besides the fact I don't see it ethical). You may get a few clients here and there but none of them is going to be happy, and guess what, you can't make money from a residual income type business without residual income long term
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  • Profile picture of the author Sherlyne
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature? This is one of the most competitive and highly searched keywords in my industry nation wide. How much would you charge and I don't want to get there and then get blasted off the top because you did something wrong in googles eyes.

    Thank you guys
    Perform link building on the dofollow websites of your niche can help you. You can surely see the improvement in your ranking within specific tenure.But noone can exactly tell you the date when your keyword will be at top position. .

    If you want I can do SEO for your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author jewelraz
    I am providing SEO services. If you are interested then pm me.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature? This is one of the most competitive and highly searched keywords in my industry nation wide. How much would you charge and I don't want to get there and then get blasted off the top because you did something wrong in googles eyes.

    Thank you guys
    I offer SEO services of different classes, single and monthly SEO packges.

    No one can guarantee when your site can reach #3 on Google, we can only predict but not guarantee.

    What you need is my monthly SEO deal, PM if you are interested in working with me.
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  • Profile picture of the author NelsonAlbertex
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature? This is one of the most competitive and highly searched keywords in my industry nation wide. How much would you charge and I don't want to get there and then get blasted off the top because you did something wrong in googles eyes.

    Thank you guys
    We can offer you SEO services for the domain mentioned. We work on result oriented approach. We not only rank keywords but grow web traffic thus business.
    Contact if interested for free website report.
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  • Profile picture of the author dmtaylor247
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature? This is one of the most competitive and highly searched keywords in my industry nation wide. How much would you charge and I don't want to get there and then get blasted off the top because you did something wrong in googles eyes.

    Thank you guys
    You haven't even got your site linked up properly in your signature, besides the point - I would remove it from this forum completely if I were you. Not only does Google look at your spammy signatures, this forum will do nothing for your offpage seo...

    In terms of ranking that keyword, I should think you can take the top three in 6 months or less.

    Regarding services in this forum, I would stay away completely from people touting their services here because for the most part it is low quality.

    You can have service providers selling seo for $150 per month and then have 200 customers. You just not going to get the quality seo you need to rank, in fact I'm certain most services in this forum will not even get you to the first page let alone the top 3.

    Your better off doing it yourself, more cost effective and better quality - the less you know the better IMO...
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Originally Posted by dmtaylor247 View Post

      You haven't even got your site linked up properly in your signature, besides the point - I would remove it from this forum completely if I were you. Not only does Google look at your spammy signatures, this forum will do nothing for your offpage seo...

      In terms of ranking that keyword, I should think you can take the top three in 6 months or less.

      Regarding services in this forum, I would stay away completely from people touting their services here because for the most part it is low quality.

      You can have service providers selling seo for $150 per month and then have 200 customers. You just not going to get the quality seo you need to rank, in fact I'm certain most services in this forum will not even get you to the first page let alone the top 3.

      Your better off doing it yourself, more cost effective and better quality - the less you know the better IMO...
      Thank you for finding that. Can you please take a look now that its fixed? I really am not the type to do all this work. I would like a honest SEO person to do this for me.
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      • Profile picture of the author karthikseo
        Hi..

        Only On page factors will bring your website in top search engine ranking with 1-2 months.. I am currently working for my client website for past 2 months..Still i didnt complete my on page factors.. well but i have get ranked some of the keywords in top 10 position by just changing my kewords in title tags and the only only only quality contents...
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  • Correct ,that is depends upon your hard work and website's optimizations .
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  • Profile picture of the author Freer
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature? This is one of the most competitive and highly searched keywords in my industry nation wide. How much would you charge and I don't want to get there and then get blasted off the top because you did something wrong in googles eyes.

    Thank you guys
    Can't guarantee top 3, but we can guarantee page 1 within 15/20 days. We are not the cheapest service around but we can deliver. All our methods are White Hat, in fact I would say they are Snow White Hat, and we do comply to Google TOS. You can PM me if it is of interest.
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  • Profile picture of the author carrotdogs
    Some people get confused with guaranteed results SEO. A lot of the time, SEO companies do not guarantee that you will get #1, page 1 etc. but they do guarantee that you will get your money back if they don't. Always read the small print and research the company/person well before handing over any money. Personally, I would only ever go with a 'Pay on Results' company
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by karthikseo View Post

      Hi..

      Only On page factors will bring your website in top search engine ranking with 1-2 months.. I am currently working for my client website for past 2 months..Still i didnt complete my on page factors.. well but i have get ranked some of the keywords in top 10 position by just changing my kewords in title tags and the only only only quality contents...
      Onpage factors alone will not bring a website to the top in a niche like this. And if it has taken you 2 months to just work do onpage SEO for a client, unless the site has thousands of pages, they should ask for their money back.

      Originally Posted by carrotdogs View Post

      Some people get confused with guaranteed results SEO. A lot of the time, SEO companies do not guarantee that you will get #1, page 1 etc. but they do guarantee that you will get your money back if they don't. Always read the small print and research the company/person well before handing over any money. Personally, I would only ever go with a 'Pay on Results' company
      No worthwhile SEO company offers money back for not reaching #1. No worthwhile SEO company uses a "pay on results" model either. The only thing a good SEO will guarantee is the work that will be done, not the results.

      Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

      How long would it take to get to the top or top 3 for my keyword in my signature? This is one of the most competitive and highly searched keywords in my industry nation wide. How much would you charge and I don't want to get there and then get blasted off the top because you did something wrong in googles eyes.

      Thank you guys
      Your site needs some work, but it is far from the worse I have seen. I would start by getting rid of all those towns in the footer. Not only is it pretty useless SEO-wise, it also looks unprofessional and junky. You should replace it with the address of your business.

      Get rid of the "Links" page and never use that unless you created that page to link out to worthwhile resources such as a medical article about allergens growing in carpets or something like that. If that is the purpose of the page, title it "Resources" or something along those lines.

      The competition is actually lighter than I expected when I looked at this. I really thought there would be a lot stiffer competition in a market the size of Los Angelos. I would guess with a good SEO plan, you could probably reach the top 3 in 4-5 months assuming you haven't done any serious offpage SEO damage to the site already, i.e. ordering some spammy backlink package.
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      • Profile picture of the author carrotdogs
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        No worthwhile SEO company offers money back for not reaching #1. No worthwhile SEO company uses a "pay on results" model either. The only thing a good SEO will guarantee is the work that will be done, not the results.
        Disagree, where are you getting this from? What are the negatives of Paying on Results??

        No worthwhile seo company uses pay on results is a massive assumption to make. If a company is confident that they can get results then why would they not offer pay on results.

        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        The only thing a good SEO will guarantee is the work that will be done, not the results.
        As I said earlier, a lot of people get confused with 'pay on results', it does NOT mean that the result is guaranteed.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        No worthwhile SEO company uses a "pay on results" model either. The only thing a good SEO will guarantee is the work that will be done, not the results.
        I dont agree with that Mike, the largest SEO company in our country works like this:

        $20/keyword per month, contract for 1 year, minimum 20 keywords.

        So that is $4800 ex VAT/year.

        This company ranked an old business collegaue (before I did SEO), for some pretty tough dutch keywords at the top 5.

        They only have to pay PER keyword that reached page 1 and stays there for at least 25 days!

        I think it's a real good deal for my old collegua. All his keywords are at page 1 now after 4-5 months, obvious I checked what they did and mainly onpage SEO and high PR links at privately owned sites. They have thousands of clients, no kidding. Guess it helps when you have a deal with the largest hosting/internet provider in our country
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by carrotdogs View Post

          Disagree, where are you getting this from? What are the negatives of Paying on Results??

          No worthwhile seo company uses pay on results is a massive assumption to make. If a company is confident that they can get results then why would they not offer pay on results.

          As I said earlier, a lot of people get confused with 'pay on results', it does NOT mean that the result is guaranteed.
          It may not mean the result is guaranteed, but it does mean the SEO makes no money unless the agreed upon result is met, so I don't really see the difference.

          I will rephrase it what I said. No worthwhile SEO company I have ever found uses a pay on results model. I'm not saying there are not SEOs out there offering it. I'm just saying none of the good ones I have found do.

          Plenty of backlinkers do. It fits into their business model because generally they are just using automation to blast out links. They are basically using the shotgun approach. They try to bring in as many clients as they can knowing that their success rate is going to be fairly low, and their turnover will be high. They are still making money though because the methods they use are low cost in money and time.

          There is a big difference between backlinkers and SEOs though. An SEO does a lot more than just blasting links until a site rises in the rankings (and if it doesn't work just move onto the next client). There are plenty of people doing that and calling themselves SEOs (just check the WSO section here).
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  • Profile picture of the author Ayekami
    Guys i also have the same question my we is Dubai Movers my keyword is Dubai movers.I need to know from you guys if my onsite seo is looking good or if it needs some changes in some area.
    Dont know how to start a thread that's why posting it here.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    How long have you been working on SEO on your website?

    Is it new?

    All these things matter in order to know around how long it may take.

    -Omar
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Originally Posted by OmarNegron View Post

      How long have you been working on SEO on your website?

      Is it new?

      All these things matter in order to know around how long it may take.

      -Omar
      I have done only manual directories for my places page. No back linking or anything really. I post on some forums in my niche with signature there but that's all. My domain is over two years old I believe now.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Originally Posted by OmarNegron View Post

      How long have you been working on SEO on your website?

      Is it new?

      All these things matter in order to know around how long it may take.

      -Omar
      I have done only manual directories for my places page. No back linking or anything really. I post on some forums in my niche with signature there but that's all. My domain is over two years old I believe now. I am currently on the top of the fourth page for my keyword ( carpet cleaning Los Angeles ) I just changed the home page towards my keyword. It was geared for a different city
      ( Pasadena )
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  • Profile picture of the author awj888
    couple things to consider when going about it,
    in terms of the competition britecarpetcleaners has been around for 10 years as a domain which will give it a lot of authority.

    Here is market analysis Noble Samurai - SEO Competition


    the backlink competition is not too scary though! yo ucan see number 6 with exact match domain is ranking with hardly anything, to get into top 5 would take a good amount of work for at least 3 months+ targeting lots of other keywords also, inner pages, and building quality links. You have some advantage in having PR as well as over 1 year domain age.

    Here is what we would quote. Sorry if this should not be here! PM for more info and check signiture for more details also.

    Fully Optimize your site 15-20 pages: $180 (warrior discount + includes lots of research into your market and keywords add GWMT analytics etc tracking)
    (if you like though it seem like you have done a pretty good job already)

    Link Building Plan (100% white hat + manual link building):

    Platinum


    Manual Directory Submission: 5000 (slow)
    Manual Deep Link Submission : 1000 (500 each for 2 inner pages)
    Article Writing & Manual Submission: 1000 (8 unique articles)
    DMOZ Submission: YES
    Social Bookmarking: 1000
    Manual DoFollow Blog Commenting: 200
    Press Release Distribution: 300 (3 unique press releases written)
    Squidoo Lens Creation & Marketing: 3 (lenses and 125 links to each)
    Manual Forum Profile Creation: 200
    Keywords Promoted: 10
    Estimated Total Backlinks:5500+ (over delivery expected)
    Sets of Reports: 8
    Time Frame: 120 Days

    Cost: $1170 (with warrior discount) 1 time, work carried out over 4 Months.
    we target more than 2 inner pages for the links and vary anchors more than 10 keywords, the plan is based on 10 MAIN keywords.


    Ofcourse no guarantee of where you will rank but a huge boost in rankings increase that is 100% with a very high chance of top 10 for keywords.

    Now if you really want a mega boost we have our ultimate backlink plan
    Diamond:

    Manual Directory Submission: 5000 (slow)
    Manual Deep Link Submission: 2000 (500 each for 4 inner pages)
    Article Writing & Manual Submission: 2000 (16 unique articles)
    DMOZ Submission: YES
    Social Bookmarking: 2000
    Manual DoFollow Blog Commenting (PR1 - PR7 Pages): 300
    Press Release Distribution: 500 (5 unique press releases written)
    Squidoo Lens Creation & Marketing: 4 (+ 125 links to each)
    Manual Forum Profile Creation: 300

    Link Wheel Creation & Marketing: 10 Web 2.0 Properties< this is worth gold. with links built to every property also

    Keywords Promoted: 15
    Estimated Total Backlinks: 9000+ (over delivery expected)
    Sets of Reports: 12
    Time Frame: 180 Days

    Cost: $2,320 (with warrior discount) 1 time. And HUGE INCREASE in SERPS top 10 rankings for some keywords for sure, lasts 6 Months same as above for keywords and pages.


    PM for more details or check signature.



    And yes we will be adding an offer in services section and maybe even WSO in the next few months.

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  • Profile picture of the author rightseosteps
    No seo company will provide you instant results as this takes time and effort. If you have a highly competitive keyword it could take up to a year to get on first page of google, but even at that it is better off to waste little on a low competitive keyword with less traffic which could pull in more sales for you. It really depends.
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    • Profile picture of the author awj888
      With the right techniques even high competition doesn't have to take a year!
      Top 3 or Top 5 longer, but Top 10 for sure

      Example for ourselves,
      we are ranking after 8 months in top 10 for highly competitive SEO Company niche keywords (of course the other companies are doing SEO too!)

      you can check our business we are only around since november 2010 and our own SEO for these started in September 2011:

      I wont give all the keywords away but here the volume:

      Top 10 rankings (exact match search volume UK)
      keyword1: 5,480
      keyword2: 8,100
      keyword3: 4,100
      keyword4: 1,300

      semrush if anyone wants to check has not been updated yet.

      Originally Posted by rightseosteps View Post

      No seo company will provide you instant results as this takes time and effort. If you have a highly competitive keyword it could take up to a year to get on first page of google, but even at that it is better off to waste little on a low competitive keyword with less traffic which could pull in more sales for you. It really depends.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by awj888 View Post

        With the right techniques even high competition doesn't have to take a year!
        Top 3 or Top 5 longer, but Top 10 for sure

        Example for ourselves,
        we are ranking after 8 months in top 10 for highly competitive SEO Company niche keywords (of course the other companies are doing SEO too!)
        Wow Alex, High-END seo service in your signature links and at the same time:

        2000 Article directory links
        5000 webdirectories
        200 Manual comments
        300 Forum profile links
        2000 Social bookmarks

        Now a serious question: You want to tank his site?
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        • Profile picture of the author awj888
          I thought that might come,
          well, as an SEO you realise this isnt blasting the site within a few days, its done gradually building up the backlinks. Also, not everything gets indexed instantly, yes - with all the juice in 1 huge blast and indexed would tank a site, im 100% in agreement, and having reviewed the current rank: 32,
          it would not be necessary to add so much - and a smaller plan would more than suffice.

          what doesnt seem to be in consideration is the amount of anchors keywords and pages targeted, done with quality content, and manually. Over the course of 4-6 months.

          target 10 keywords making 100 keyword anchors (at least) its spread out and slowly and giving weight to many pages on the site <not all on homepage. The backlinks are not to be indexed immediatly or created immediatly using original quality content - no automated tools blasting and all that other crap. So from 4 months of work links can still be getting indexed slower than that.

          Its long term solution.

          So I will stand with what I said, but with the difference being - a smaller plan would suffice check here:

          bronze: 1000+ links (30 days+)

          silver: 2000+ links (45 days+)

          gold: 3300+ links (60 days+)



          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Wow Alex, High-END seo service in your signature links and at the same time:

          2000 Article directory links <-- not all approved instantly.
          5000 webdirectories <- submission is not guaranteed listing and (slow)
          200 Manual comments <again - over 4-6 months isnt much considering people offering 100s of comments on PR pages for $47? and no automation BS!)
          300 Forum profile links same as above
          2000 Social bookmarks over the course of 4-6 months!

          Now a serious question: You want to tank his site?
          Now a serious answer: we can agree to dissagree thats fine, im not looking to step on toes, all clients we serve were not at all impacted by recent google updates, their rankings improved, never has a site been deindexed or 'tanked' and hey I agree with you that those a some big plans, which can also mean getting top spots for some faster, but then add more keywords! its not limited
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by awj888 View Post

            I thought that might come,
            well, as an SEO you realise this isnt blasting the site within a few days, its done gradually building up the backlinks. Also, not everything gets indexed instantly, yes - with all the juice in 1 huge blast and indexed would tank a site, im 100% in agreement, and having reviewed the current rank: 32,
            it would not be necessary to add so much - and a smaller plan would more than suffice.
            Well for me it's not really about the amount of time in this case, although it is a factor that plays a large role but my focus was more on the terrible quality of the sites you submit to.

            Let's start with the 2000 article submissions, 16 unique articles, I dont think you will submit the same article to the same directories many times, so it comes down to 1 article submitted to 120 directories correct? But there are not even a dozen article directories that are WORTH it to submit to so spread it our or not, huge waste of time and effort.

            Web directories, 5000 of them, come on man, 90% of them are PR1 or less, you really want to submit a site to such web directories? It's pure spam, didn't you read the report that about 4000 pr0 pr n/a directories are deindexed by Google, I feel you still live in 1998 by taking such approach.

            2000 Bookmarks, again there is only a dozen of bookmark sites worth to submit to, and you want to submit to 2000 sites, or do you spread it over 200 urls? Looks very spammy to me whether it's spread out or not.

            I wouldnt want my site to be listed at 90-95% of those sites even when people would give me money for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
    My guy I've hired seems to be working very hard on my SEO and I am excited. I want to thank you for all the pointers and help on here. Great board.
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  • Profile picture of the author amili6
    it is hard to say how long it would take, sure it will take several months or more, start and you will see
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