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The Top of a 27k searched KW and no traffic?

by momakmak
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I recently optimized a site and got it to #2 for a keyword with a monthly volume of 27,100 searches yet I am only getting 2 or 3 visitors a day. WHYYYYY?

I do have the title relevant to the search keywords and also a great description offering great content. Has anyone else experienced these kinds of results?

Is it possible that hitting the number 1 spot will make much of a big difference?
#27k #searched #top #traffic
  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    You should be getting far more visits! Is the search volume "exact" or "broad" in GKT?
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  • Profile picture of the author tylerherman
    #2 by your search or #2 in Webmaster Tools? How many impressions are getting in Webmaster Tools?

    Give us more information so we can actually help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

    I recently optimized a site and got it to #2 for a keyword with a monthly volume of 27,100 searches yet I am only getting 2 or 3 visitors a day. WHYYYYY?

    I do have the title relevant to the search keywords and also a great description offering great content. Has anyone else experienced these kinds of results?

    Is it possible that hitting the number 1 spot will make much of a big difference?
    I was looking at a similar situation yesterday with one of my own keywords (9,000 traffic).

    What I found out was, Google Images was getting 6,000 traffic hits (USA) & the Google organic search traffic was only 3,000 hits per month. I found this info. inside GWT (Google Webmaster Tools).

    Since this was GWT data for an existing ranked page + ranked image I think it's more detailed than Google Keyword Tool data.

    Check your keyword inside GWT & use the net filter & then check the image filter (inside GWT), compare the traffic numbers.
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    • Profile picture of the author JSProjects
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      I was looking at a similar situation yesterday with one of my own keywords (9,000 traffic).

      What I found out was, Google Images was getting 6,000 traffic hits (USA) & the Google organic search traffic was only 3,000 hits per month. I found this info. inside GWT (Google Webmaster Tools).

      Since this was GWT data for an existing ranked page + ranked image I think it's more detailed than Google Keyword Tool data.

      Check your keyword inside GWT & use the net filter & then check the image filter (inside GWT), compare the traffic numbers.
      You know. I would have never even thought of that.

      Good catch.
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  • Profile picture of the author awj888
    - check exact match or broad
    - check image or webpage
    - check that there isnt a huge amount of PPC ads showing up taking over the fringe of the search -
    this might be the case - in which even #1 wont be getting a huge amount of traffic - you should be able to check details on the ads for that keyword in semrush
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    • Profile picture of the author momakmak
      I used Google Adwords: Keyword tool. Is it not accurate. Even if it was half the amount I should get a little more traffic than that.

      I am number 2 doing a search myself and seeing it. Also it is not a common image search.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

        I used Google Adwords: Keyword tool. Is it not accurate. Even if it was half the amount I should get a little more traffic than that.

        I am number 2 doing a search myself and seeing it. Also it is not a common image search.
        If your already ranked, don't mess with GKT (Google Keyword Tool), look at your GWT data (If your running GWT).

        GWT data is what's already happened, GKT is a prediction based on past data, doesn't always mean the traffic will happen in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    GWT shows avg position 6.6. I am a bit of a newb. Its still on the first page though, right?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Inside GWT go to Traffic --> Search Queries in the left sidebar, then go to the Filter & check each of the Image & Web traffic numbers (screenshot below).

    Make sure to apply the filter settings at the bottom/right side of the popup window.

    I don't know If this is the problem with your keywords traffic, just that I've found with my own keyword, the GWT numbers can sometimes be misleading without running the Filters.



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  • Profile picture of the author Yusuke
    Google will deem your ranking higher for you only for your keyword if you search for the keyword and then click to your website. So it does not means that you have a number #2 ranking. Correct me if i am wrong
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    • Profile picture of the author momakmak
      This is what I got. filtered image, smartphones, and web







      This is embarrassing
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

        This is what I got. filtered image, smartphones, and web







        This is embarrassing

        Images are all broken,
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        • Profile picture of the author momakmak
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Images are all broken,
          They show on my screen. ?

          They show image impressions are 0

          smartphone/mobile impressions are 22 , <10 clicks

          Web impressions are 90 , <10 clicks
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          • Profile picture of the author yukon
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            Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

            They show on my screen. ?

            They show image impressions are 0

            smartphone/mobile impressions are 22 , <10 clicks

            Web impressions are 90 , <10 clicks
            Like others have said, it's the Broad match in GKT that is messing with you.

            When you do GKT keyword research you need to make sure you are looking at the data for:
            • Local
            • [exact]

            Local -is the specific Google search engine your targetting, examples:
            • www.google.com
            • www.google.com.au
            • www.google.co.uk
            • etc...

            This (Local) is important, for example google.com (USA) might have 500 traffic per month & google.co.uk could have 15,000 traffic per month. So in this example, If your ranking #1 on google.com (USA) your not going to get much traffic, even If your ranked #1 in the SERPs (USA).

            Exact - is just what it says, it's the traffic numbers per month for the [exact] keyword.

            Example:
            • car insurance


            Not this:
            • how do I get the best car insurance
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        • Profile picture of the author rafiseo
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          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Images are all broken,

          A relevant question. Semrush.com is it providing only google web search based traffic? Or its also counting traffic for images+videos+web search?

          Also how accurate and dependable semrush information?
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    I suspect you are looking at the broad match search volume in Google's Keyword Tool.

    You say you are still a newbie, based on that are you familiar with the differences in broad, phrase and exact match search volumes?
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    • Profile picture of the author momakmak
      Originally Posted by IM Ash View Post

      I suspect you are looking at the broad match search volume in Google's Keyword Tool.

      You say you are still a newbie, based on that are you familiar with the differences in broad, phrase and exact match search volumes?

      Can you explain?

      Thank you all for helping me out with this.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
        Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

        Can you explain?

        Thank you all for helping me out with this.
        Go to Google's Keyword Tool, enter your keyword in the relevent field, then on the left hand side you should untick the "broad" box and then tick the "exact" box. This will give you the average monthly volume of searches for your "exact keyword"

        Do this and check what search volume you get, if is considerably lower then you made an error when doing your KW research. Always check exact search volume!
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  • Profile picture of the author Chrisbroholm
    Just to clarify a bit:

    As a standard Google Keywords Tool is on "Broad" meaning that if you type in "dog training" it will count every single keyword where the words dog and training occur in any order and with any number of words in the keyword.

    Exact means you get only the search for when people type exactly "dog training" and only that, this is the only metric you should be using.

    Phrase is a bit like broad, only that the words have to be in the order you type them. So "dog training" will also count keywords like "best dog training" or "dog training for puppies"

    ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS HIT EXACT
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    • Profile picture of the author momakmak
      I cant believe I missed that. Thanks everybody. Definitely made a big error.
      And here I was thinking I was getting good at this. LOL. Will redo my research tomorrow.

      exact - 320 searches. what a downer.
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      • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
        Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

        I cant believe I missed that. Thanks everybody. Definitely made a big error.
        And here I was thinking I was getting good at this. LOL. Will redo my research tomorrow.

        exact - 320 searches. what a downer.
        Don't beat yourself up over this! Believe me - many before you have made the exact same error. Just take it as a learning experience!
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  • Profile picture of the author momakmak
    Just did a little research using the exact method and I have to say its a game changer now. I feel like it just got twice as hard to rank high from all the competition.

    I tried to ask this question on another thread but got no help.
    If you find a good keyword and all the dot coms were taken would you then just do keywordabc.com or would you rather, if available, do keyword.net, or keyword.org?

    Would you stick with the .com or would you rather move to a .net, .org, .us, .biz with exact keyword and no additions?
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    • Profile picture of the author biz_online
      Originally Posted by momakmak View Post


      Would you stick with the .com or would you rather move to a .net, .org, .us, .biz with exact keyword and no additions?


      Great question and great answers.

      Always stick with the .com

      First of all, I would absolutely always make sure that you are buying keywords that people are willing "real money" money for.

      Never buy a domain name where people are not willing to spend money.

      Here's and example:car insurance (not an affiliate link)

      For the term "car insurance" the cost per click is over $2. That's a good sign.

      Then you have to build your blog are related keyword topics.

      Don't put any adsense on your blog and no more than about 4 related ads (cj.com or linkshare.com) Don't ever put Clickbank links on your website unless you love feeling the Google Slap. Clickbank is for eMail marketing only.

      Now after you have your blog, you need the right plugins
      so, use WordPress › Akismet « WordPress Plugins

      and you also need an SEO plugin:WordPress › All in One SEO Pack « WordPress Plugins

      Both of these are free and I would just stick to the free versions.

      Use articles and videos and occasional press releases to get traffic and backlinks.

      STAY AWAY from all the automated content and automated backlink products floating all over the place.

      Stick with just these 3 methods of backlinking and you wont have any Google Panda and Penguin issues. People get into trouble when they try to use short cuts or try to trick the search engines.

      That's my 2 cents worth... Good Luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author momakmak
        Originally Posted by biz_online View Post



        Great question and great answers.

        Always stick with the .com

        First of all, I would absolutely always make sure that you are buying keywords that people are willing "real money" money for.
        Thanks for the great reply! Very useful tips about not using clickbank.
        Currently I use a small amount of adsense and linkshare.

        Amazon banned commission in my state of NC.
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        • Profile picture of the author biz_online
          Originally Posted by momakmak View Post

          Thanks for the great reply! Very useful tips about not using clickbank.
          Currently I use a small amount of adsense and linkshare.

          Amazon banned commission in my state of NC.
          I'm glad you brought up Amazon. My opinion is that for affiliates, Amazon is a complete waste of time and money. I have no clue why so many people promote Amazon as an affiliate. I purchase from Amazon, but it is much easier to create my own PLR product and drive as much traffic (free & paid) to my own website.

          I link my site to paypal and re-invest in more traffic.

          Anytime you rely on Amazon, or Google, or Clickbank they can always change the rules anytime they like and w/o warning. If someone creates their own independent affiliate program, it's typically for the sole purpose of cheating their affiliates (not always, but often enough to not be worth the risk).

          Suppose you're really.. really smart and you make the numbers work.

          Okay... Amazon pays about 4%. So, for every $100 sold, you make $4.

          Let's say you want to make $400/mo. I don't think that's an unreasonable goal.

          That's about a car payment, so I think it's a good number.

          So, you have to make 10,000 sales to get the $400 (10000 x 4%)

          Well, if you convert at the average of 2% per visit, that's 10000/2% or 500,000 visits per month that you need to drive to your site to make $400/mo.

          So, I just don't get it. If I could consistently drive 1/2 million visitors to my site every month, I wouldn't give all my profits to Amazon.

          I just don't think enough people take time to take an honest look at the numbers. It's a case of the blind leading the blind.:confused:

          That's my 2 cents worth.
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