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Still deciding on who to use for getting my two most important keywords to the top of page 1. I have been talking with a solo guy in my industry that ranked his keyword #1 for a keyword almost as competitive as carpet cleaning Los angeles. Says it will possibly take up to 6 months but can be done. He will work on both keywords in my signature as well as my places page for $500 a month. Guaranteed 1st page results eventually he said. Again, he is #1 for his big keyword. Says its all manual done and no mass submitting type stuff. My question to you professional is does this sound fair and make sense to you. Or can I get all this done for less for the same work?

Thank you very much everybody.
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    Still deciding on who to use for getting my two most important keywords to the top of page 1. I have been talking with a solo guy in my industry that ranked his keyword #1 for a keyword almost as competitive as carpet cleaning Los angeles. Says it will possibly take up to 6 months but can be done. He will work on both keywords in my signature as well as my places page for $500 a month. Guaranteed 1st page results eventually he said. Again, he is #1 for his big keyword. Says its all manual done and no mass submitting type stuff. My question to you professional is does this sound fair and make sense to you. Or can I get all this done for less for the same work?

    Thank you very much everybody.
    Well since he's only doing two keywords I think the price is a little steep.

    If you wanted to work something out send me a message on skype and I'd glad to discuss the keywords with you
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  • Profile picture of the author GeraldNitram
    You can hit me with a PM, too. Just in case you want to get some more options. By the way, did the guy really guarantee you the top spot? I'm asking because it's not something that people who do SEO would usually do. Well, they can do it, but it's not something that you're supposed to guarantee.
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  • Profile picture of the author shortandsave
    well we dont have much info on the guy. Ask him what kind of links will he be using. If he doesnt want to tell you then is probaly blackhat.
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  • Profile picture of the author nasuryono
    You need to get more information from the service provider. He needs to be transparent on what kind of link building techniques he will be using.

    If he is going to over optimize the keyword, stay away from him since it will not work in the post panda/penguin era.

    You can definitely do the work yourself but you need to spend the time to do it. And that will be your cost
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  • Profile picture of the author philliplpaz
    I think $500 is a bit much, considering its just only 2 keywords and 1 website. But not unless they will provide the whole thing, from content, images and even video. That could be a bargain.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Not sure of exactly what kind of links but he says all manual. And he has said he can set me up with a tool to monitor the climb of my keywords. He told me there will be articles submitted to ezine as well which he said is very powerful for helping rank my keywords?
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    Still deciding on who to use for getting my two most important keywords to the top of page 1. I have been talking with a solo guy in my industry that ranked his keyword #1 for a keyword almost as competitive as carpet cleaning Los angeles. Says it will possibly take up to 6 months but can be done. He will work on both keywords in my signature as well as my places page for $500 a month. Guaranteed 1st page results eventually he said. Again, he is #1 for his big keyword. Says its all manual done and no mass submitting type stuff. My question to you professional is does this sound fair and make sense to you. Or can I get all this done for less for the same work?

    Thank you very much everybody.
    You've said before that this SEO guy is also in the carpet business (right) & he ranks well for his own local keywords, so I'm confused why you don't just go with the guy.

    Has he proven that he actually owns the site/s he claims he already ranked for his own keywords?

    I would have him add a message in the footer for a word I pick, just to prove he owns the already ranked site/page. If he actually owns the site it shouldn't be a big deal, verify, buy the service, rank the page.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      You've said before that this SEO guy is also in the carpet business (right) & he ranks well for his own local keywords, so I'm confused why you don't just go with the guy.

      Has he proven that he actually owns the site/s he claims he already ranked for his own keywords?

      I would have him add a message in the footer for a word I pick, just to prove he owns the already ranked site/page. If he actually owns the site it shouldn't be a big deal, verify, buy the service, rank the page.
      Thank you Yukon,

      I just have heard so many horror stories. And yes, I found him on a forum in our industry and researched and contacted him. He answered an SEO question and seemed really honest and knowledgable. He doesn't even market his services as he is swamped and a 1 man show. He also is a cleaner just like myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sherlyne
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    Still deciding on who to use for getting my two most important keywords to the top of page 1. I have been talking with a solo guy in my industry that ranked his keyword #1 for a keyword almost as competitive as carpet cleaning Los angeles. Says it will possibly take up to 6 months but can be done. He will work on both keywords in my signature as well as my places page for $500 a month. Guaranteed 1st page results eventually he said. Again, he is #1 for his big keyword. Says its all manual done and no mass submitting type stuff. My question to you professional is does this sound fair and make sense to you. Or can I get all this done for less for the same work?

    Thank you very much everybody.

    Hi Yohanc,
    Raking locally at 1st position is a good thing, but when it comes to outsourcing , you should see many parameters before trusting anyone.
    Like for an example, If he is having his targeted keyword in domain name, overly optimizing his website for your location etc. This all makes it easier to rank sites well in serp.
    Beside this, You can look for someone to offer you this at cheaper cost.
    If you want I can assist you at affordable price.
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  • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
    Honestly I doubt that someone can have a daytime job and work as SEO on such keywords. So he is probably outsourcing.

    About your keywords they are pretty hard so the price is more than honest if he does the job.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Originally Posted by GodMode52 View Post

      Honestly I doubt that someone can have a daytime job and work as SEO on such keywords. So he is probably outsourcing.

      About your keywords they are pretty hard so the price is more than honest if he does the job.
      That's exactly what I was thinking. But I also like that he is in my industry and has a top rated page for an extremely competitive keyword. He says he puts tons of time at night as well as 3 full days a week working on mine and 3 other sites including his.
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  • Profile picture of the author GaryKing
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    My question to you professional is does this sound fair and make sense to you. Or can I get all this done for less for the same work?
    I've successfully ranked more than 30 client's sites both for medium to highly competitive keywords after google's penguin update. From what i see, Ranking a site for keywords you have in your sig for $3000 in 6 months is really a good bargain. I'd have charged $9000 for 1 year guaranteed top 3 ranking with 100% Refund if the ranking can't be achieved.

    You still can get this done for less if you opt for shady links and i strictly recommend you not to go in that route.
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  • Profile picture of the author Caleb12
    I think the best way to go would be to higher one full time VA's for $250 a month. You can then use the other $250 for automated things and getting content written. That seems like a more solid approach to me. Now if you don't have any knowledge or time then you could either go with him or find a more reasonable price.
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  • Profile picture of the author brandsmith
    Hey friend I have read of lot review of SEO LA that have great abilities to do best quality and legitimate work, they always write good quality content so they can do it ..
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackMetal
    Wow, "Carpet cleaning Los Angeles" is not at all competitive, I've ranked much more competitive keywords in Page 1 number 1 position.
    None of this "eventually" junk, the way I can get SEO done I'd estimate a Page 1 result in 1 month guaranteed
    If he is good and it works fast $500 is a bargain, if it doesn't then you're wasting your time and money, and working with your competitor sounds suspicious.
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Originally Posted by BlackMetal View Post

      Wow, "Carpet cleaning Los Angeles" is not at all competitive, I've ranked much more competitive keywords in Page 1 number 1 position.
      None of this "eventually" junk, the way I can get SEO done I'd estimate a Page 1 result in 1 month guaranteed
      If he is good and it works fast $500 is a bargain, if it doesn't then you're wasting your time and money, and working with your competitor sounds suspicious.
      Thank you for you help. He is not a competitor, only in my industry. Does not service my area at all. Does his own SEO and dominates his most searched keyword. Took him 6 months though he said. Not a month. Easier keywords maybe 2 months he said.
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  • Profile picture of the author TolyZ
    Ranking for local keywords shouldn't be that hard and should only take 2 months max. $500 / month is a little high. Should be around $150 for 2 keywords. You can contact me through my website - Website Marketing, Affordable Internet Marketing, Marketing 1on1 and I can provide you with a quote.
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  • Profile picture of the author Theeban
    From my view point, it is pretty high charges for those two local keywords to get page 1.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackMetal
    It's not high if you get the results, you should be getting many paid customers that will cover that cost quickly if you do rank well and be extremely good value. It only seems high because so many people on here offer cheap services that are mostly automated very low quality that give little results, and no guarantees etc (and not even their own sites rank well at all and have very low PageRank etc).
    I've ranked a carpet cleaner client in the top few positions of page 1 (in a different country, and city, where the keyword is much more competitive than the LA one) in well under 30 days. What's $1500 when you can possibly make $5000-$10000 every month from it? When it makes such sense, my clients are happy to pay for such quality and a good return.

    So the other guy $500*6 months=3000 and 6 months of your life.
    Where as, if you wanted me to do it I could guarantee to get you on page 1 for a max of $1500, and likely within 30 days, so you save 5 months and $1500.


    But I'm not here to sell stuff, very busy with my own clients and business, just here to share/absorb knowledge and find more staff, but if you were interested enough perhaps I might be willing to help your business, send me a msg/pm/reply here. Otherwise, good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlastMySite
    Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

    Guaranteed 1st page results eventually he said.
    Unless he invented Google, he shouldn't, and actually he can't guarantee any place on the SERPs. He can't control what sites are placed there, and even if he could dominate his keyword, it's not a guarantee that he'll do the same for you.

    I tend to avoid those kind of "SEOs" who have too self confidence and think they can rule the SERPs, lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author BlackMetal
    If you have no confidence of getting a good result, why even sell services then. Of course you wont get to page 1 for a competitive word with fiverr gigs. But a high quality SEO can definitely guarantee whatever they want if they are confident they can achieve it and properly analyse the competition, and a good guarantee from a reputable company means it is risk free for the buyer.
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    • Profile picture of the author BlastMySite
      Originally Posted by BlackMetal View Post

      If you have no confidence of getting a good result, why even sell services then. Of course you wont get to page 1 for a competitive word with fiverr gigs. But a high quality SEO can definitely guarantee whatever they want if they are confident they can achieve it and properly analyse the competition, and a good guarantee from a reputable company means it is risk free for the buyer.
      I don't doubt some SEOs have a good reputation. I know they think they can get the number one, but again, they don't have control of the algorithm. To guarantee the #1 is a fishy sales strategy in my opinion. What would happen if there's a manual adjustment on the SERPs for certain query. Even the best SEO of the world couldn't do anything about it. That's why you shouldn't and can't guarantee any spot, even more when we're talking about Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
        Originally Posted by BlastMySite View Post

        I don't doubt some SEOs have a good reputation. I know they think they can get the number one, but again, they don't have control of the algorithm. To guarantee the #1 is a fishy sales strategy in my opinion. What would happen if there's a manual adjustment on the SERPs for certain query. Even the best SEO of the world couldn't do anything about it. That's why you shouldn't and can't guarantee any spot, even more when we're talking about Google.
        He told me first page and probably in the top 3 eventually. Said it took him a solid 6 months to get his there. And like said above, now his phone rings of the hook. I am a little hesitant at going with somebody that says they can get me there in 15-30 days as that sounds unnatural and mass automated stuff which I have been told in the end will get my site smacked of the front page and dropped like a rock. I want to get there and stay there. If I don't see a steady march up the ranks I will be contacting somebody here. I really appreciate all the input everybody is giving me.
        Thank you
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        • Profile picture of the author harryweb
          Originally Posted by Yohance j View Post

          I am a little hesitant at going with somebody that says they can get me there in 15-30 days as that sounds unnatural and mass automated stuff
          That is an outdated thinking considering the latest Google updates. Low quality can't work anymore for fast results, only quality SEO can get good results fast. I don't think low quality/automated blasts work at much at all anymore, so Google is much better at ranking using quality signals. So now ONLY quality SEO can get you ranked to page 1. I only ever use people who can guarantee results, in a reasonable time frame, and use manual quality SEO, not automated junk.
          If someone offers you a guarantee, you would be mad not to take the guarantee every time as you have nothing to lose. I only buy services that are guaranteed.
          But you'll learn that mistake the hard way in time (and money).
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    • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
      Originally Posted by AbbyBryant View Post

      there are two parameters

      first you have rank on 1st page of Google
      second the rank should be sustained

      I have outsourced my seo work to third party and concentrating on other money making areas. They are very affordable you can try them
      Let me give my current guy two months and see where I am at then. If I'm not satisfied I will be trying somebody else for sure.
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