[solved] I'm creating a do it yourself seo software....I need opinions on a few things

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I used to pay $500 and up per month for seo but I created a software where I can manage unlimited domains; generate meta tags, submit automatically to directories, easily share links to facebook, twitter, linkedin etc., comment on blogs, start and manage newsletter campaigns, monitor backlinkings and search engine rankings, manage and monitor keywords, site audit....Those are the major features.

My question is the most important one. What should I charge per month? I want others to use the system from my website once they are registered. No need to download. I would rather charge something that others would feel comfortable paying.


I will release it once it's completed next week. Also let me know if you want to join and I'll send some information to you later.
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  • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

    I used to pay $500 and up per month for seo but I created a software where I can manage unlimited domains; generate meta tags, submit automatically to directories, easily share links to facebook, twitter, linkedin etc., comment on blogs, start and manage newsletter campaigns, monitor backlinkings and search engine rankings, manage and monitor keywords, site audit....Those are the major features.

    My question is the most important one. What should I charge per month? I want others to use the system from my website once they are registered. No need to download. I would rather charge something that others would feel comfortable paying.


    I will release it once it's completed next week. Also let me know if you want to join and I'll send some information to you later.
    I'm trying to understand why someone would want it.

    Meta tags are useless, so scratch that off.

    Submitting to directories. What kind of directories? Are we talking about Yelp, Foursquare, BoTW, etc, or junk like the autoapprove directories that IM'ers love to spam?

    Commenting on blogs... You mean like what Scrapebox does? If so, kind of a useless feature. I can get Scrapebox at $57 for a one-time fee and it spams comments just fine.

    Newsletter campaigns... Do you mean email marketing or something else?

    Site audit... What exactly is it doing as far as an audit? Does it find anything useful or just silly stuff like keyword density?

    Monitor backlinks... So you are going to maintain a database of the internet to find links? Or do you mean I have to enter them in manually and it will monitor if they are still alive? Or is it just going to track the blog comments and directory submissions?

    Really need more specifics around it. It could be something not worth a dime to something you could probably sell for a $100 or more a month.
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    • Profile picture of the author cnich23
      Meta tags ---- ok so it's a good extra

      What kind of directories? I will add those into the system now (Yelp, Foursquare, BoTW, etc)

      Commenting on blogs --- good extra

      Newsletter campaigns... it's email marketing (sends to an email list/subscribers)

      Site audit...backlinks of google and bing, checks # of indexed sites, checks external links and total links, checks link score, checks for broken links, and theres a sitemap generator


      Monitor backlinks... Maintain a database of the internet to find links -- connected to google and alexa.


      Keyword position checker

      Social Bookmarker.
      ..Share links to facebook, twitter, linkedin, digg, google buzz and bookmarks, stumbleupon, myspace, blogger, delicious

      What do you think is a good cost with the above MikeFriedman?
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Newsletter campaigns... it's email marketing (sends to an email list/subscribers)
        Just a heads up, the biggest problem with sending out self hosted email campaigns is the major email providers (gmail, hotmail, yahoo, etc...) will usually flag automated emails as spam, even If the subscriber did an optin, this means a lot of emails get sent too the spam folder in the subscribers inbox.

        I'm not saying your system will get flagged as spam, just that part of the reason people use things like Aweber, etc... is because the big email providers know those services police their own system for spammers, again not saying your system is for spamming.

        Getting around the spam folder in subscribers email inbox isn't always easy, unless each individual subscriber manually says the emails coming from your system aren't spam, I doubt very many people would find the email in the spam folder to begin with.
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      • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Meta tags ---- ok so it's a good extra
        Ok, if you say so.

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        What kind of directories? I will add those into the system now (Yelp, Foursquare, BoTW, etc)
        So currently it just submits to the other spammy directories like I said. I use directories in my SEO campaigns, but generally only the paid ones outside of Yelp, Google Places, Foursquare, etc. The paid ones would be tough to code (because I'm not going to trust something to automate taking money out of my account), but submitting to those local directories would be a useful feature. There are a lot more too. Localeze, iBegin, Brownbook, etc. One issue, and I'm not sure how you will handle it, is some of the good ones require phone verification after submission.

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Commenting on blogs --- good extra
        I don't really do blog commenting for SEO clients, so you would have to get someone else's opinion on the benefit of that. If I was going to do it though, again, I would just use Scrapebox most likely.

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Newsletter campaigns... it's email marketing (sends to an email list/subscribers)
        As Yukon pointed out, you are going to run into potential problems with delivery rates on this. Beyond that, if you get enough spam complaints, the registrar may shutdown the domain they are originating from. There is a reason that Aweber, Constant Contact, etc. own this niche.

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Site audit...backlinks of google and bing, checks # of indexed sites, checks external links and total links, checks link score, checks for broken links, and theres a sitemap generator
        Google and Bing do not show many backlinks, so it is going to be very limited data there. Tie it into Majestic or SEOmoz... something like that, and it would be far better.

        What is link score?

        Broken links are good to check for. Xenu does it for free though.

        Sitemap generator is fine, but there are plenty of free tools that do that too.

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Monitor backlinks... Maintain a database of the internet to find links -- connected to google and alexa.
        Wait. You are going to maintain a database of the internet? I highly doubt you have the computing resources to do that. It would take thousands of computers to do it well. If you are just using Google and Alexa's backlink data, well it is very limited information.

        And what kind of information about backlinks is your tool going to provide? Page PR? Number of other external links on the page? IP of the domain? Will it tell me the anchor text? If the link is still there or not? Will it compare the link profile of one site to the link profile of 3-4 other sites?

        SpyGlass does all of that right now for me.

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Keyword position checker


        What makes yours better than the ones that are already out there? How about reporting functions? Will it FTP my reports to a domain? Will it schedule rank checking? Will it automatically email out rank reports?

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        Social Bookmarker.
        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        ..Share links to facebook, twitter, linkedin, digg, google buzz and bookmarks, stumbleupon, myspace, blogger, delicious
        Ok. Does it blast social bookmarks? Does it drip feed them? Does it use different accounts? Can I schedule it?

        Originally Posted by cnich23 View Post

        What do you think is a good cost with the above MikeFriedman?
        I'm not trying to rag on your idea. If I was new to the business and looking for something to do this stuff, maybe I would be interested in a product like this. However, between SpyGlass, Rank Tracker, Scrapebox, Magic Submitter, etc. which are tools I already have, I would see no reason to switch.

        On a monthly basis though, I wouldn't pay more than $30 for that. Magic Submitter is around $60/month, already does a lot of what you are talking about, and most of the things it doesn't do, I can teach it to do. It doesn't do rank tracking and link analysis, but I am completely happy paying a premium price to SEO PowerSuite for a tool that does that really well. Link analysis is probably the most important part of what I do.

        I'm not sure your tool is going to give me more data than SpyGlass, SEOmoz, Majestic, and Ahrefs already do. In fact, I'm pretty certain it won't give me anywhere near the data I'm already getting from using them. Google and Alexa give very limited backlink information.

        Again, I'm not trying to bash your product. As an SEO, I'm just not really seeing the unique selling points to it or where it will help me save time and grow my business.
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        • Profile picture of the author cnich23
          Excellent Mike, You really helped me out and I can say that my seo online application is all in one, as you mentioned you are using more than one software. That should be one of my selling points.
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  • Profile picture of the author Vivers
    Let us know when it's done and offer a free tour so we can test drive and see. Sounds like it could be of great help possibly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
    Look at your competition, compare your features to theirs, and price accordingly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mikefeng
    Nice idea, looking forward to the tool
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  • Profile picture of the author PatrickLSO
    Seems too good to be true. There are a lot of things you have to take in to account, like thousands of proxies for example. But besides all of that, I would suggest $49 a month. Too much more and they could get SENUKE or hire a company, any less and it would seem like a crappy product.
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