Affordable SEO Service to recover from Penguin/ Panda

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I was badly hit by the penguin/panda update and I don't want to give up my sites. I know that they are high quality, they provide useful information and they were money makers for me before. I am tired of doing it myself to recover their rankings...so I am ready to start paying an SEO company to help me with this...

any suggestions of what service you have used that produce great results for you? seo service that actually made your sites recover ?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I took steps to avoid penguin before it even came out, I saw the signs of what was happening, on all of my websites where advertising exceeded 25 percent of the total content I did see a loss of traffic on the websites where content (unique quality original good content) was 75 percent of the process and nothing interfered with the website visitors ability to actually use that content as they pleased my websites increased in ranking, some went form a PR 1 to a PR 3

    I continually test the waters I use many different method of obtaining good rankings but the most important thing is to provide the user (website visitor) with what they want.
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  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    I don't think a Penguin recovery service really exists, some people might claim to offer such thing but from my own testings we only managed to "recover" sites temporarily.

    We tried:

    - redirects with url shorteners in between, it lasted for 4-6 weeks
    - adding a bunch of real strong links, it lasted for 2 weeks
    - changing anchor txt in links, it didn't change anything except the kw's that had those anchor txt dropped harder, which makes me doubt even more if it's really about anchor diversity
    - changing onpage things, nothing happened

    I wouldn't trust a service that claims to recover sites after Penguin.
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    • Profile picture of the author johnnys229
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      I don't think a Penguin recovery service really exists, some people might claim to offer such thing but from my own testings we only managed to "recover" sites temporarily.

      We tried:

      - redirects with url shorteners in between, it lasted for 4-6 weeks
      - adding a bunch of real strong links, it lasted for 2 weeks
      - changing anchor txt in links, it didn't change anything except the kw's that had those anchor txt dropped harder, which makes me doubt even more if it's really about anchor diversity
      - changing onpage things, nothing happened

      I wouldn't trust a service that claims to recover sites after Penguin.
      I have done similar things, and the results were the same as you. It's very difficult if not impossible to recover from a hard Penguin slap. We know that Penguin is primarily based on off-site (links) rather than on-site SEO (which was targeted primarily by Panda) but beyond that, we know comparatively little, certainly not enough to guarantee recovery from a hard Penguin slap.
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      • Profile picture of the author MaroshIS
        I read a ton of articles on this topic since my 2 sites have been hit.

        The only solution could be to build a new site on similar domain name ..e.g. if you used to have .com then buy .net and build a new content there and start to rank with high quality links only.
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  • Profile picture of the author azmom07
    thanks for your comments...i do hope that there is such a service out there that exists as i dont want to give up my site easily.
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  • Profile picture of the author denysapu
    Originally Posted by azmom07 View Post

    I was badly hit by the penguin/panda update and I don't want to give up my sites. I know that they are high quality, they provide useful information and they were money makers for me before. I am tired of doing it myself to recover their rankings...so I am ready to start paying an SEO company to help me with this...

    any suggestions of what service you have used that produce great results for you? seo service that actually made your sites recover ?
    There's no one can give such guarantee in SEO

    Just my own thought about recovering site hit by penguin.
    I am not claim that my advice is the best than other articles you've read. But its helps alot if you do a whole checking about what's exactly happened with your site.
    What's what caused your sites got penguin hit. Maybe your spamming techniques did in the past that no more works for current. Spam backlinks sent by competitors, low quality content, and many more factors that caused your site in the list of sites affected penguin.
    You need more times to check and conclude what's need to "repair"

    And for professional SEO consultant, Heru - iWebstudio is great I think.However I don't know for sure if he is still willing to do a new project
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    • Profile picture of the author K Mec
      Originally Posted by denysapu View Post

      There's no one can give such guarantee in SEO

      Just my own thought about recovering site hit by penguin.
      I am not claim that my advice is the best than other articles you've read. But its helps alot if you do a whole checking about what's exactly happened with your site.
      What's what caused your sites got penguin hit. Maybe your spamming techniques did in the past that no more works for current. Spam backlinks sent by competitors, low quality content, and many more factors that caused your site in the list of sites affected penguin.
      You need more times to check and conclude what's need to "repair"
      I agree with you. Though social network may help him. Distributing links on facebook,twitter,printrest...etc...it will give strong backlinks as well as direct traffice from there....
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  • Profile picture of the author prodigy1290
    interesting..illtry that out
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  • Profile picture of the author jossefsal
    there is no service that can do that, if your site was hit, first of all you need to clean up your site, and update your content then start a manual link building campaign some tips could be found at seolinkbuildingpackages.net
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  • Profile picture of the author Sanay Sharma
    Only having unique web content will not help, I have seen some websites with unique content but they are also effected with google new penguin update.
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  • Profile picture of the author Power Marker
    All I can say is move on. Learn from your mistakes and create a better site. The time and money it takes to recover might not be worth it in the end.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by Power Marker View Post

      All I can say is move on. Learn from your mistakes and create a better site. The time and money it takes to recover might not be worth it in the end.
      Isn't it a bit early to say when there has been only 1 penguin refresh so far at the end of May? So people have only had about 1 month to react and try to recover.

      If Penguin is mainly about backlink quality, then I guess it depends on how many links you have to your site. If you have thousands of poor quality links, then it might be incredibly difficult to recover, but if you only have a few hundered links then it may be worth it.

      If Google releases the links disinvow tool which they mentioned, where does that leave things regarding Penguin? If Penguin is about backlinks like most people say then webmasters will obviously be disallowing the links which are poor quality.
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  • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
    To get out of Penguin it often requires more than just a "service".
    You need to change some onsite factors, and often build higher quality links.

    Thats a commonality of the sites that have recovered. Check for high pagerank homepage link services. There are a few on this forum. Look for those services that DON'T use spun content on their network.

    Some of them on here offer keyword diversity at no additional charge either. Which is a huge help.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by DizenSounds View Post

      To get out of Penguin it often requires more than just a "service".
      You need to change some onsite factors, and often build higher quality links.

      Thats a commonality of the sites that have recovered. Check for high pagerank homepage link services. There are a few on this forum. Look for those services that DON'T use spun content on their network.

      Some of them on here offer keyword diversity at no additional charge either. Which is a huge help.
      So is Penguin essentially penalizing sites for having low pr backlinks? The effects of Penguin are big so it isn't merely link devaluation.

      Maybe the filter is triggered when it detects a combination of a high backlink anchor text percentage and on page optimization for that particular keyword. Some people say that some websites with high percentage of the same anchor text survived Penguin. Were those sites also highly optimized for the keyword on page?

      How are we supposed to know what to change on site if we don't use keyword stuffing, hidden text, etc..
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      • Profile picture of the author Amzi
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        I don't think a Penguin recovery service really exists, some people might claim to offer such thing but from my own testings we only managed to "recover" sites temporarily.

        We tried:

        - redirects with url shorteners in between, it lasted for 4-6 weeks
        - adding a bunch of real strong links, it lasted for 2 weeks
        - changing anchor txt in links, it didn't change anything except the kw's that had those anchor txt dropped harder, which makes me doubt even more if it's really about anchor diversity
        - changing onpage things, nothing happened

        I wouldn't trust a service that claims to recover sites after Penguin.
        Agree with niko.. The curse of Penguin..Nobody can fix it.. This video might help.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lukas
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        So is Penguin essentially penalizing sites for having low pr backlinks? The effects of Penguin are big so it isn't merely link devaluation.

        Maybe the filter is triggered when it detects a combination of a high backlink anchor text percentage and on page optimization for that particular keyword. Some people say that some websites with high percentage of the same anchor text survived Penguin. Were those sites also highly optimized for the keyword on page?

        How are we supposed to know what to change on site if we don't use keyword stuffing, hidden text, etc..
        Yes, I have seen quite a few very spammy kw stuffed sites in top 3 since Penguin. They look like 2003 all over again. The Penguin just froze and let that site climb. It's hard to figure out
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  • Profile picture of the author adumpaul
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    I think the entire point of that last update, (officially) was to Retard these grey and black hat methods that were being used to obtain a ranking over all it worked well, the only way to recover is to stop doing the things that got you here in the first place, otherwise what would be the point, because eventually you will end up right back here, its a learning process one that will teach you what your doing wrong,
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Tim Franklin View Post

      I think the entire point of that last update, (officially) was to Retard these grey and black hat methods that were being used to obtain a ranking over all it worked well, the only way to recover is to stop doing the things that got you here in the first place, otherwise what would be the point, because eventually you will end up right back here, its a learning process one that will teach you what your doing wrong,
      Funny enough those things still work crazy well, but at least now we know that it's only temporarily so yeah everyone with a little brain would avoid it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tim Franklin
    Yes, it is interesting to watch and see how things develop over time, I noticed that the websites that I have setup in a certain way with a certain content ad ratio, developed better rankings, I found that obtaining a higher PR ranking is dependent upon a lot of factors including long term factors which are not really published elsewhere.

    I had one particular website which took a long time to develop into a PR1 because of a number of factors mostly it just sat there collecting dust, but when I applied the same development solution to this website when penguin came out it went from a PR1 to a PR3 now that got my attention.

    I have websites that are ranking much better now with far less backlinks, that tells me something big changed, I compared websites that had recently purchased backlink packages and other SEO services and found some that had 1500 back links they were ranked NA, even though they did have decent traffic stats over all what I found was that the PR3 website has 41 backlinks it tells a story about what we think and what actually is may be two very different things.
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    Content is always king... use unique content and try using some manual seo service.. who don't offer so many B.S. backlink with automatic tools..
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    • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
      Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012 View Post

      Content is always king... use unique content and try using some manual seo service.. who don't offer so many B.S. backlink with automatic tools..
      True, but I've seen sights plummet that did have great content and no BH links, all with great content and PR.

      Why do you think that is?
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by DizenSounds View Post

        True, but I've seen sights plummet that did have great content and no BH links, all with great content and PR.

        Why do you think that is?
        Did you see the backlink anchor text ratio of those particular sites? Maybe too much of the anchors are their targetted keyword hence penguin being triggered.
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        • Profile picture of the author DizenSounds
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          Did you see the backlink anchor text ratio of those particular sites? Maybe too much of the anchors are their targetted keyword hence penguin being triggered.
          Yes I checked hthe anchors. Going against conventional wisdom, Penguin has a lot to do with onsite design and more than just the backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author wellm97
    My site was hurt in the penguin update and I analyze why it has been penalized and also I asked Google and they point out a porn website and Then I request to that site to remove my site links, they charged me for that I resubmit my site and request Google to re index. Now I got original position for almost all my keywords.
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  • Profile picture of the author sadeeshbala
    Nothing to worry,,, have a new website build with quality contents and build backlinks from relevant quality websites...
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