Negative Link Building after Penguin

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I work for a big site. It has (had) many thousands of visitors every day.
After Penguin we received an email from Google for no right link building.

We immediately remove many external links too dense on a keyword.
But, checking backlinks, we see that we are receiving link we didn't pay/request.

Someone is paying some link building action, preferring sidebar and footer of thousand pages site, with one only competitive keyword. They are doing negative seo. Naturally that sites, after contacted to remove that fu*kin' link, didn't reply / remove.

After 5 weeks we write to google for reconsideration, listening all innatural backlinks don't ordered by us, the site still lose rank for main keywords.

Some suggest to fight against hard negative link builder?
Thanks
Infastiditi
#building #link #link building #negative #penguin
  • Profile picture of the author johnnys229
    Hi there mate,

    Unfortunately, this is a part of the new environment after the update. Negative SEO is still relatively rare as it does take a lot of resources to do it, which could be used on your own sites instead of maybe 5 above you, but it has no doubt become more popular after 24 April.

    You could try to diversify your anchor text with some high quality links. Keep bugging Google as well, tell them that someone is performing Neg SEO on your site, but don't hold your breath.

    As Matt Cutts actually once said, it may be that you have to give up your site and start afresh, as a result of this. But beware, if someone is doing Neg SEO for these keywords targeted by your current site, it may be best to choose a different niche altogether.
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  • Profile picture of the author infastiditi
    Of course @jb200800, all you say is right. I've still clean all my situation, but I've thousand of backlink (many for domain, same key) where I haven't "administrative right".
    I can say "please remove" but they don't remove!
    Some of them - I'm sure - are payed links.

    Thanks
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    • Profile picture of the author johnnys229
      Originally Posted by infastiditi View Post

      Of course @jb200800, all you say is right. I've still clean all my situation, but I've thousand of backlink (many for domain, same key) where I haven't "administrative right".
      I can say "please remove" but they don't remove!
      Some of them - I'm sure - are payed links.

      Thanks
      Yes, that's the problem that you've identified right there. If some one is building 1000s of links to your site on sites that you don't control, you don't have any administrative rights to go and delete the offending links. Even if you did, it would take a lot of time and effort. Welcome to Google 2012.

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  • Profile picture of the author amylawyer
    What is unnatural links for google? I just lose rankings for my website. Can you show me example of unnatural links?
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    • Profile picture of the author infastiditi
      - too much link with the same keyword
      - too much link as the same time
      - too much link from a "network matrix" (like site with all the same ip)
      - blogroll link with a competitive keyword (not brand keyword)
      - footer link with a competitive keyword (not brand keyword)
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  • Profile picture of the author infastiditi
    The big trouble @jb200800 is that Google take this question with unusual calm.
    Many site are sink, with more then 40% of money entrance (and organic traffic).
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    • Profile picture of the author rajivwebads
      Link Building is now become a threat one couldn't say that is its links are not going to be penalized by Google,natural backlinks need very much effort and provides adequate result.
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    • Profile picture of the author 007simple
      Originally Posted by infastiditi View Post

      The big trouble @jb200800 is that Google take this question with unusual calm.
      Many site are sink, with more then 40% of money entrance (and organic traffic).
      Why don't you try tweeting your problem to Matt Cutts at Twitter, if you haven't done any blackhat SEO why you should be afraid. God knows Matt Cutts might look at your tweet reply
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      • Profile picture of the author infastiditi
        did it, on twitter e g+ too...
        In a video he said that is not a trouble: Google doesn't penalize... Google knows!
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  • Profile picture of the author deesonjame
    Are there any definitive case studies on whether negative SEO has any penalties? My personal assumption is that they are just worthless to Google.
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    • Profile picture of the author prcys
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      Originally Posted by deesonjame View Post

      Are there any definitive case studies on whether negative SEO has any penalties? My personal assumption is that they are just worthless to Google.
      Definitely negative seo has the impact on site results. If someone do the negative work for own site and send the unnatural links to our site then it will impact badly. So one need to send email to google for this thing so they will remove all unnatural links of site and will not affect badly.
      But after the penguin, one need to be sure for the perfection in site development and need to build better structure for the site as penguin is specially developed for removing spam sites so be aware by this thing.
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      • Profile picture of the author infastiditi
        @prcys of course what you said. One only "big" trouble: the google reply time.
        In my case is more then 5 weeks!
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    Hmmmm

    GWT are releasing a tool soon that you can use to discount any "bad" links... who knows when it will be out....

    Just keep getting good links built and work on social media until you get the Big G sorted.....

    Danny
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    on a side note....

    Negative SEO.... I have some findings that will interest a lot of people very soon :-)

    Need to work through the facts first though :-)

    Danny
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  • Profile picture of the author infastiditi
    @Danny: it works.
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