Checking fake PR?

12 years ago

Instead of site do info:yoururl if the domain listed isnt the domain its a fake pr. You can also check 5 per day for free on ahrefs.com it will say Redirect.

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carrotdogs 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Chrisbroholm

You can also check 5 per day for free on ahrefs.com it will say Redirect.

Or 15 if you signup for a free account
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dinoseo

12 years ago

Hi,

You can try with some of these given below sites to check for fake page rank.

checkpagerank[dot]net
seomastering[dot]com etc...

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WittyT

12 years ago

I also like: Check Page Rank | cekPR.com

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Face Cap

12 years ago

Try checkpagerank you'll know if fake or not

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kindle11 12 years ago

You can go to the fake pr checker. It will provide you a information about the PR of that particular website.
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metahead

10 years ago

I use Rank Checker to check for fake PageRank. It also provides backlink information and domain details.

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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Search Google for info:domain.com , If you see another domain it's fake PR from a 301/302 redirect.
Check the backlink profile, PR comes from other links.
Search Wayback & look for pages that show a 301/302 redirect to another domain.

Example of fake PR:

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[wayback source]

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nob

10 years ago

rank checker same as metahead and also use majestic seo to check the quality and quantity of the backlinks to the site as well as looking at the trust and citation flow. Anything over 12 ish for both is a great sign.

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a2hosting

10 years ago

I use the SEOQuake plugin for Chrome. It works wonders for me, and I also get the Alexa info (not as useful, I know).

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nettiapina

10 years ago

I tested a domain I know to have fake PR9. Originally I caught the fake PR using Majestic SEO, but after they spidered the site again the mention of a redirection was removed from their information. Google's info: shows nothing interesting.

CekPR and Rank Checker were easily fooled. Checkpagerank.net didn't catch it, but at least called the PR quality "weak".

Added: Seomastering's tool was the only one that got it right (showing a large red question mark instead of text "is valid").

The two ways Yukon posted above seem to be the most fool-proof:
- Check the backlink profile.
- See if there's a redirection in archive.org's results. Looks exactly like the screencap above.

You should suspect shenanigans if the supposedly high PR domain was dropped a while ago and re-registered. You're doing a quick whois when approaching a new domain, aren't you? That would be a good clue.

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paulgl 10 years ago

Originally Posted by nettiapina

I tested a domain I know to have fake PR9.

You fake PR by redirecting the googlebot and the googlebot alone.

Since true PR9 pages are pretty well known, a little logic would have told
you the PR is faked.

I see no reason to fake PR8, 9, or 10.

Nobody in their right mind who was looking to buy a domain should not
have the mice brains to know it does not pass the smell test.

PR7 and below you really need to be up on your toes. There is no
PR checker that cannot be fooled. Only google has the only one and
they aint sharing.

Many people think a low amount of links means a fake PR. It's not that
simple. Every page on the net at one time had PR0, and many
immediately went to high PR.

You can also get higher PR based on lower PR links. Many people think you
need higher PR links to go higher. It can be faster, but you can get higher
PR with only lower PR links. Internal links also count.

No site in google really has PR n/a. As soon as it's indexed and cached, it's now
higher.

No human outside google knows the true PR of any page.

Nobody should ever think a PR9 for sale in some idiotic online auction
is real.

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- nettiapina 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by paulgl
  
  Since true PR9 pages are pretty well known, a little logic would have told you the PR is faked.
  
  Directed at my comment, so I will just say that I applied the common sense and logic. Indeed the site didn't pass the smell test, but the domain was sort of convincing because it seemed to be a good name in French (which I don't speak).
  
  The verdict after a quick backlink check was a no-brainer: no change of being PR9.
  
  My post above was mostly an exercise to check if these tools are BS or not.
  
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MallofStyle

10 years ago

Can DA be also increased in some way. I checked a domain having an authority 42 with 7 backlinks. That sounds absurd.

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WebMeUp

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Blue445nm

How do I check if a PR is fake?

First you need to check how many backlinks a domain has, and what websites they come from.

For example, to be a real PR5 would require backlinks from PR5 or higher websites. If on a domain backlink portfolio there's nothing but low-quality and spammy links OR no links at all, this is suspicious.

Also, look at archive.org Wayback Machine. If no older snapshots of this particular domain exist there then it's always a fake. Legitimate sites that have existed for a long time always have snapshots in archive.org. Archive won't snapshot a redirected domain.

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MikeFriedman 10 years ago

Originally Posted by WebMeUp

For example, to be a real PR5 would require backlinks from PR5 or higher websites.

That's not exactly true. A whole bunch of PR 4 links can make a PR 5 page.
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yukon

Banned 10 years ago

Originally Posted by WebMeUp

Also, look at archive.org Wayback Machine. If no older snapshots of this particular domain exist there then it's always a fake. Legitimate sites that have existed for a long time always have snapshots in archive.org.

That's not necessarily true.

It's possible to block wayback from archiving a site.

"User-agent: ia_archiver" inurl:"/robots.txt"

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Mike Anthony

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Face Cap

Try checkpagerank you'll know if fake or not

Terrible advice. Thats easily fooled.

Originally Posted by WebMeUp

First you need to check how many backlinks a domain has, and what websites they come from.

I have been meaning to ask this for awhile. I don't understand this and probably need a clarification on the rules of this forum. The two most active link research providers on this forum - Webmeup and linkassistant (spyglass) promote their site through links in most of their posts in a way that no one else is allowed to (we have to keep it in the sig),

have the rules changed or did I misread them to begin with?

Also, look at archive.org Wayback Machine. If no older snapshots of this particular domain exist there then it's always a fake. Legitimate sites that have existed for a long time always have snapshots in archive.org.

Sorry but this is absolutely and utterly false. The Wayback machine definitely does NOT cover all of the web so the abscence of a domain does NOT always indicate its a fake. Further the presence of an older snapshot says nothing about whether the domain's PR is being faked now. Really the best use of the wayback machine for domain prospecting is to check for recent snapshots that will indicate whether a domain might have been penalized or was recently legit as a real site

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MikeFriedman

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

I have been meaning to ask this for awhile. I don't understand this and probably need a clarification on the rules of this forum. The two most active link research providers on this forum - Webmeup and linkassistant (spyglass) promote their site through links in most of their posts in a way that no one else is allowed to (we have to keep it in the sig),

have the rules changed or did I misread them to begin with?

Nah, no rule change. If they're out there, they just have not been caught or reported.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I rarely read more than 10-20% of the threads myself. If something is not reported, chances are it won't get picked up.

And there are certain frequent repeat offenders that catch my eye right away. If I see a post by them, I immediately check/edit/nuke it.

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Mike Anthony 10 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

I can't speak for anyone else, but I rarely read more than 10-20% of the threads myself.

Kudos. Given the threads recently thats plenty. You have nerves of steel.
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Ricardo Furtado

10 years ago

Awesome info, thanks for sharing.
Best wishes and regards.

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koubain

10 years ago

use this Google PageRank Checker - Rank Checker

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MikeFriedman 10 years ago

Originally Posted by koubain

use this Google PageRank Checker - Rank Checker

That doesn't help. It is not accurate.
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nettiapina

10 years ago

Originally Posted by koubain

use this Google PageRank Checker - Rank Checker

You're not into this "reading the thread" thing, are you? It's posted above, and my verdict was "easily fooled".

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

The two most active link research providers on this forum - Webmeup and linkassistant (spyglass) promote their site through links in most of their posts in a way that no one else is allowed to (we have to keep it in the sig),

I've noticed the same. They've been within the topic and not blatantly link spamming at least, although some of the stuff about upcoming features is starting to get close. I guess you're allowed to link your own site if it's on topic and helpful?

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linndelvallen

10 years ago

If you have lots of sites to check, then you can use scrapebox to check fake PR

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davdwarnner

10 years ago

Originally Posted by Blue445nm

How do I check if a PR is fake? I see plenty on ED.net but I still think they pass the unsure and fake pr checker because hardly any of them have backlinks.

Then again, I read some google PR charts that a single PR6 BL can make your PR go up to like 4 or 5...

Any sure way to check?

I currently use site:yourdomain.c0m and if the website I type in shows another website for SERPS that means the PR comes from that site.

But...I also see several websites that still show the site I type in but have 0 backlinks. Do they get PR some other way or is there a sure way to check?

I'm planning to get maybe a domain to 301 to my main site.

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MikeFriedman 10 years ago

Originally Posted by linndelvallen

If you have lots of sites to check, then you can use scrapebox to check fake PR

Originally Posted by davdwarnner

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SEO Status PageRank/Alexa Toolbar :: Add-ons for Firefox

Neither of those methods are accurate for finding fake PR.
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10 years ago

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nettiapina 10 years ago

Originally Posted by azzedinejamal

I'll prefer SEOQUAKE for checking page rank because i am also using this tool from 5 years.

SEOquake toolbar happily reports fake PR (unless there's a feature that I've not found yet). Granded, it's collecting wide array of data so it's easier to make an educated guess, but you're doing the work there.
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- metahead 10 years ago
  
  @nettiapina, I think what you're looking for is a "live PageRank checker," which I don't think exists. All the fake PR checking tools mentioned on this page query PageRank values that Google has published via the Google toolbar, which isn't exactly live.
  
  With that said, I have seen plenty of domains with very few inbound links (but from authoritative sites) that have high PR. I tend to look at the quality of the links rather than the number of links when judging whether the current PR will stick through the next PR update.
  
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  nettiapina 10 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by metahead
  
  @nettiapina, I think what you're looking for is a "live PageRank checker," which I don't think exists.
  
  It's not me who's looking for, but OP and some other guys in this thread. I'd totally agree that most of these pagerank checkers are pointless when it comes to fake pagerank. If you want easy-to-access "toolbar" PR score, install a widget to your browser.
  
  It's not the size of your backlink profile, but how you use it.
  
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yoangov

10 years ago

I use scrapebox to check the fake PR. It always works

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Moneymaker2012

10 years ago

I am using seo quake for checking PR but you can aslo use Check Pagerank, Likes, Shares, IP and Age for Domain — PagerankChecker.com

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nettiapina 10 years ago

Originally Posted by yoangov

I use scrapebox to check the fake PR. It always works

How do you do that? It's not the first mention of scrapebox in this thread. MikeFriedman above said that it doesn't work, but maybe you can enlighten us? I don't know that piece of software but I'm very interested to hear how it would accomplish actually checking if the PR is fake.

Remember, the thread is about fake PR, not just any score you can find.

Originally Posted by Moneymaker2012

I am using seo quake for checking PR but you can aslo use PagerankChecker.com

Neither of those work if you're looking only for the pagerank score.
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