I was hit by Panda. Is a new site a good solution?

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Hi,
my site was hit by Panda/Penguin and is in sandbox now.
I do not use any of banned techniques, so I am pretty upset (I think it is probalby negative SEO of one of our competitors).
Since the website is an official site of our family company, I need to find quick solution to start business again.
My question is:
1) Is it wise to start with new domain and to build new site?
2) If yes, then: If I redirect the old domain to the new one, will I gain something from the old domain? I have NICE links to the old domain and I do not want to lose that.
Is there any difference in Google ranking between NEW domain and NEW domain with redirect from OLD domain?
Thank you for your opinion.
T.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rostonix
    Try o continue doing what you usually did.
    Sites can be recovered.
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    • Profile picture of the author TonyTrevor
      Originally Posted by Rostonix View Post

      Try o continue doing what you usually did.
      Sites can be recovered.
      +1 for suggestion
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      • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
        Originally Posted by Rostonix View Post

        Try o continue doing what you usually did.
        Sites can be recovered.
        Wrong. Doing what you usually did got you penalised.



        Originally Posted by JawadAshraf View Post

        You need to change your SEO strategies and have to think outside of the box to take over panda, penguin dude.
        Panda recovery can be a lot of work. It is mainly onsite work. Improve the quality of the site, reduce bounce rate and things should improve within a few panda updates. BUT it can be a lot of work to do this, especially if it is a decent sized site.


        Originally Posted by Born2rule View Post

        Doing 301 redirect your old site will help you climb the SERP quickly compare to just building on a new domain! If in any doubt PM me for details.

        Never do a 301 redirect from a penalised site to a new site. Think about it...


        Originally Posted by rocko007 View Post

        Creating new site is not a solution just try to get some good quality high pr backlink for you site
        This may help with penguin, but is almost irrelevant in terms of panda.



        Originally Posted by yukon View Post

        How do you know you've been hit by a penalty?

        What's your proof?

        A lot of people on this forum scream penalty just because they can.

        It isn't hard to figure out if you have been hit by panda. Just look at the release dates of their refreshes.

        Penguin slaps can be identified too, but slightly less precisely in terms of exact dates.



        Originally Posted by TonyTrevor View Post

        +1 for suggestion
        If your site has been hit by panda, then you have to change the content on the site enough to provide a better visitor experience and reduce the bounce rate. If you don't do this, and a few other things all amounting to a better site, then the site will not recover. Do the work or forget about it.
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  • Profile picture of the author dp40oz
    I always say that the ROI (return on investment) is rarely in favor of trying to break out of penalties. Your time and money is usually much better spent starting from scratch. Although with all things it depends, but thats what I've found works best for me and my business. I'll do a good once over and fix up any major issues I can see with the site and then move on. Many times the site will come back out of nowhere and if it does now I have 2 sites doing well in the same niche. If not I didn't sit and waste time trying to bring it back from the dead.
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  • Profile picture of the author Born2rule
    Originally Posted by Talktome2012 View Post

    Hi,
    my site was hit by Panda/Penguin and is in sandbox now.
    I do not use any of banned techniques, so I am pretty upset (I think it is probalby negative SEO of one of our competitors).
    Since the website is an official site of our family company, I need to find quick solution to start business again.
    My question is:
    1) Is it wise to start with new domain and to build new site?
    2) If yes, then: If I redirect the old domain to the new one, will I gain something from the old domain? I have NICE links to the old domain and I do not want to lose that.
    Is there any difference in Google ranking between NEW domain and NEW domain with redirect from OLD domain?
    Thank you for your opinion.
    T.
    Doing 301 redirect your old site will help you climb the SERP quickly compare to just building on a new domain! If in any doubt PM me for details.
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  • Profile picture of the author WittyT
    Personally, I would start back from scratch. Nowadays, you don't need that many backlinks to rank anymore anyway.
    The thing that sucks with redirects is that they can carry any penalty that existed for the old site to the new one.
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  • Profile picture of the author rocko007
    Creating new site is not a solution just try to get some good quality high pr backlink for you site
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  • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
    Check to see if your whole site was penalized or just a page

    I've been able to successfully rank new pages when a different one was penalized... Not sure how often that happens.

    If that doesn't work then you have no choice but to start over (unless you don't mind waiting the penalty out the average one is six months)
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    • Profile picture of the author Talktome2012
      Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

      Check to see if your whole site was penalized or just a page

      I've been able to successfully rank new pages when a different one was penalized... Not sure how often that happens.

      If that doesn't work then you have no choice but to start over (unless you don't mind waiting the penalty out the average one is six months)
      I think all the main content icluding homepage is in sandbox.
      Articles in K2, fresh articles, are not in sandbox.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joni D
    Here are some things to look at : panda updates every 4-6 weeks not 6 months, You might want to try and save your site first as was stated in a webinar I attended, there is a course (Panda Breakthrough)with updates for a year included so even tho it's $497 you will be ontop of all updates and info on panda and they give you a site review and some other things.
    It's by Eric Lancheres heres what he gave in the webinar: Full Sites are now being scored not just individual pages. Your quality score includes static elements such as having a Contact page, PPpage, about us page, page layout, a visitors time on site, fast loading- you want less than 4 seconds and dynamic navigaiton.
    Dynamic navigation changes with the page topic, an example is youtube- related videos on the right changes with chosen category. Shows related posts- categorize your articles (Static navigation is ok for header and footer)
    Look at your titles, H1,H2 (headlines) article or page title or post titles. Repeated Kw's are no longer good. It is better to use 3-4 similar and varied kw's per page and undo bold and italics.(over optimization)
    Vary anchor text kw's- pick about 10-15kw's and everytime you create a backlink use a different one from your list. Don't undo or mess with old BL's just start created new backlinks this way.
    Use page interlinking within your content, it keeps people on your site longer and it looks natural. suggest other related pages within your page -Example is wikipedia, not like ezinearticles (resourse box link)
    Write on topics vs. just keywords (use a mix of kw articles and topic articles or content) example titles: kw title- "How to cook Prime Rib" better is a topic article-"Cooking the best Prime rib I ever had." It was said that long tail kw's are a bad user experience (they come for that one recipe and leave) and they penalize you with less traffic. so cover topics- example site is -food dot com site see their tab labels
    Resize any large images smaller (he didn't give a size, just not large)
    So try to change as much of these things as you can and wait about 3 months before you go start a new site with a redirect. I know this guy specializes in recovering sites so it's just knowing what to do. I am sure there is more as he has a whole course on it, but try this and see if it makes a difference or buy the course if you think it would be worth it.
    Hope that helps
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  • Recovering from the penguin update really isn't that hard. Try building quality backlinks with diverse anchor text. Example "click here, check this out, your website url, click for more information"

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by Talktome2012 View Post

    Hi,
    my site was hit by Panda/Penguin and is in sandbox now.
    I do not use any of banned techniques, so I am pretty upset (I think it is probalby negative SEO of one of our competitors).
    Since the website is an official site of our family company, I need to find quick solution to start business again.
    My question is:
    1) Is it wise to start with new domain and to build new site?
    2) If yes, then: If I redirect the old domain to the new one, will I gain something from the old domain? I have NICE links to the old domain and I do not want to lose that.
    Is there any difference in Google ranking between NEW domain and NEW domain with redirect from OLD domain?
    Thank you for your opinion.
    T.

    How do you know you've been hit by a penalty?

    What's your proof?

    A lot of people on this forum scream penalty just because they can.
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  • Profile picture of the author chiggy30
    Thanx for sharing this information..
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  • Profile picture of the author finch21
    I too have been hit by Penguin am building quality links but no movement. I wish I had chosen to go with a new domain. Any ideas on when the new update is on its way?
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  • Profile picture of the author Danny Cutts
    I was recently hit hard by a penguin panda update in fact a few of my sites got deindexed completely but I have made a full recovery :-)

    Dont waste money on a new domain just yet :-) see if you can solve the problems first :-)

    Danny
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    • Profile picture of the author finch21
      Originally Posted by Danny Cutts View Post

      I was recently hit hard by a penguin panda update in fact a few of my sites got deindexed completely but I have made a full recovery :-)

      Dont waste money on a new domain just yet :-) see if you can solve the problems first :-)

      Danny
      Wow did you really Danny..that is excellent news. Any tips?
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  • Profile picture of the author MarinaM
    Hi Guys , i had 2 sites penalized, " unnatural links detected ". Nothing helps yet. Sites still have some very small traffic from google images. I will keep them til unnatural links will fall off naturally ! I started a new site and it was a very right move . Don't redirect penalized domain to another domain or you will get penalty transferred.
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  • Profile picture of the author Austin E Anthony
    Google penguin can be fixed. I was a victim of Google penguin but now all my sites are back. A lot of people doesn't know that its possible to recover penguin hit site but it is possible. Through a special script I created, I recovered all my sites plus that of clients.
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