First step to start in SEO

by tales
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Hi,
i am a newbie to SEO.
I know there are lot of steps do start SEO from Article submission to Social bookmarking.

My website is (on page) optimized and its about 3 months old.
I would like to start with off page optimization
so .. what is the first step to dive in.
I want to do it everything manually.

I know there are lot of Profi SEO guys out here .. so waiting for your success quotes.

Thanks.
#newbie #seo #start #step #steps
  • Profile picture of the author nicktyler
    Read as much as you can and decide what method is going to wrok best for you interms of time and effort. Don't get sucked into any quick win scams.
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  • Profile picture of the author Clint Faber
    My motto is make sure your house is clean before you invite guests this means have your on-site SEO structure in place before working on off-site.

    That being said a great place to start is delivering quality content to document sharing sites as these deliver very powerful back weeks and gives you the opportunity to grow your notoriety.

    Don't focus on Google rankings but rather focus on delivering quality content that people need and want while making sure it is all nice and neat containing your keywords etc..
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    • Profile picture of the author kiliki
      Originally Posted by Clint Faber View Post

      My motto is make sure your house is clean before you invite guests this means have your on-site SEO structure in place before working on off-site.
      ...
      Don't focus on Google rankings but rather focus on delivering quality content that people need and want while making sure it is all nice and neat containing your keywords etc..
      Well said! Too many people start looking for backlink shortcuts and miss a SUPER important step on making sure they do their on-site optimization well AND put good content that visitors will like. GREAT advice!!!
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    Have a look at some of my tutorials on YouTube Matthew Woodward - YouTube

    They should give you some solid foundation knowledge.
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    • Profile picture of the author DZainein
      Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward View Post

      Have a look at some of my tutorials on YouTube Matthew Woodward - YouTube

      They should give you some solid foundation knowledge.
      Thanx Matthew for the fabulous video - I watched it and its one of those videos that every newbie should watch for SEO.
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  • Profile picture of the author Weedy92
    Start link building, but be careful and don't rush. Find a solid guide to assist you along the way. Don't just order any random package online for backlink services, and don't blast a bunch of links out and hope for the best.. Have a solid action plan, that is why most people in IM fail, they don't have an action plan or anything legit to follow. There's a ton of backlink profiles out there, you need to keep it diverse and quality so it can withstand the next Google updates. You'll need to learn the Tiers and what backlinks should go where.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
    Tales the first step in SEO is neither link building or on page content issues - Its learning to do solid keyword research. Once you know how to pick keywords for monetization and understand how to rate competition in that keyword space you are ready to address content and link building - not before.

    IF you were a professional runner that wasn't the fastest but needed to eat and pay your bills you would scope out what races you could join that gave you the best chance of winning and which ones you probably wouldn't because of who was running. Thats what keyword and competition analysis tells you.
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    • Profile picture of the author sovereignn
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Tales the first step in SEO is neither link building or on page content issues - Its learning to do solid keyword research. Once you know how to pick keywords for monetization and understand how to rate competition in that keyword space you are ready to address content and link building - not before.

      IF you were a professional runner that wasn't the fastest but needed to eat and pay your bills you would scope out what races you could join that gave you the best chance of winning and which ones you probably wouldn't because of who was running. Thats what keyword and competition analysis tells you.
      lolol I enjoy your new signature

      Quite the flattering picture of Matt you should've drawn horns on him
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      • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
        Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

        lolol I enjoy your new signature

        Quite the flattering picture of Matt you should've drawn horns on him
        Actually I have a tweak to make to that but I just haven't found the right image over on Istock yet.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
        Originally Posted by sovereignn View Post

        lolol I enjoy your new signature

        Quite the flattering picture of Matt you should've drawn horns on him
        So did I, nice sig Mike, had a nice laugh.

        it's very funny how 1 man has an entire industry so scared, hahaha
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    • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
      Originally Posted by Mike Anthony View Post

      Tales the first step in SEO is neither link building or on page content issues - Its learning to do solid keyword research. Once you know how to pick keywords for monetization and understand how to rate competition in that keyword space you are ready to address content and link building - not before.

      IF you were a professional runner that wasn't the fastest but needed to eat and pay your bills you would scope out what races you could join that gave you the best chance of winning and which ones you probably wouldn't because of who was running. Thats what keyword and competition analysis tells you.
      100% Agree with Mike here. Especially if you're looking to do everything manually, you definitely don't want to waste hours/days/weeks/months promoting the wrong keywords that won't make you a dime.

      Grab a copy of Market Samurai, definitely worth the investment.
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    Building backlinks via blog comment, forum links, article subs, writing blogs, press release, etc..
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  • Profile picture of the author Aarav
    Originally Posted by tales View Post

    Hi,
    i am a newbie to SEO.
    I know there are lot of steps do start SEO from Article submission to Social bookmarking.

    My website is (on page) optimized and its about 3 months old.
    I would like to start with off page optimization
    so .. what is the first step to dive in.
    I want to do it everything manually.

    I know there are lot of Profi SEO guys out here .. so waiting for your success quotes.

    Thanks.
    That's really great stuff from you to start off-page optimization by "Manually"

    First of all, choose the reputed, authorize and high pr sites to submit your links where fresh and quality contents are must needed for quality link building. Then use various link building tactics to submit your sites and create powerful backlinks.
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  • Profile picture of the author ChrisMoon
    get all your onsite SEO in order first then look at offsite SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author VictorYi
    Building backlinks is one of the way to optimize offpage.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jim Hughes
    Get educated.

    Here is a good free introductory guide: SEO: The Free Beginner?s Guide From SEOmoz
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  • Profile picture of the author SamDenial
    Well make some quality links to your website. Submit your website to high PR social bookmarking websites and comment on high PR dofollow blogs and dofollow forums.
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  • Profile picture of the author seoservicepro
    I am also a newbie here, thank you very much for these suggestion above
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  • Profile picture of the author Nikan
    Me too, newbie here and very happy to read all comment here.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnnixon84
    Try to build relevant back links. Don't submit mass directory submissions. Try to get back links from content oriented sites like UGC, press release, article promotion etc.
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    • Profile picture of the author NoQuarter
      You can add to the mix creating of content that people can share providing you with automatic link building.

      You dont even need to create that content yourself. You may just post snippets of content from other places. Just give credit to original source.

      It's a "fair use" this way and you're not breaking any copyright laws. See YouTube stars doing this every day.

      Create a fb fanpage and twitter account with links back to your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by indiainternet2012 View Post

      these steps you have to follow..
      article
      press releases
      classifieds
      blog commenting
      forum posting
      bookmarking
      Glad your not doing SEO for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author ralchevd
    There are definitely a lot of helpful comments. I would also like to add something...

    As a newbie in SEO, keep in mind that you are not newbie in life. There is one huge mistake that most of the newbies always do - they follow random strategies written by Internet marketers, and when they don't see the result in few days, they just skip and move to the next advice. My idea here is that these strategies are made to guide you, don't just copy paste them. Use your own mind - experiment with your own ideas!
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  • Profile picture of the author dagnyjbarber
    Read all bout on page , off page and crawling. Then after this start with basic link building steps.
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  • Profile picture of the author cisin
    If the website is new I usually do not end in building hundreds of building links in a day but my motto is to be clean and safe. Step by step doing things! But when it comes to a website which is previously optimized after the on-page analysis i go deep in the mission of cleaning the bad links then starting any thing.
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  • First bookmarking your all pages then start forum posting to increase links of your website the goes to directories submission.

    I use this technique for my website.
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  • Profile picture of the author BrianCorcoran
    Get some High PR contextual backlinks and do it manually
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  • Profile picture of the author kchanda
    Onpage > Fresh and User readable content > Web 2.0, Forum Posting, Guest Posting, Article submission.....................................
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    for off-page do social shares of your website/blog as much as you can
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  • Profile picture of the author foxseo
    I am also newbie and I think we need to read as much as we can the advise and threads here.
    Try to understand and execise with many services, so we will get the experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author foggy
    you can start with blog post, article submission, web 2.0 and bookmarking
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  • Profile picture of the author Nick Kringas
    I can tell you what not to do...

    -Don't build 10000 links to your site overnight
    -Don't use anchor text in more than (lowered since updates) 35% of your links
    -Don't only get links from the same type of website or in the same type of content
    -Don't buy one piece of software and overuse it
    -Don't start building links until you are committed to building links consistently for months/years
    -Don't rely on seo traffic or any other source of traffic
    -Don't waste your time on the wrong keywords
    -Don't think seo is free because it isn't... and I don't mean it will cost you time so it's not free - It's not free because if you want to get anywhere you must take advantage of the power of multiple tools.

    Everyone was saying what to do but it might be more important in SEO to know what not to do.

    Good Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author bilal9999
    You can built backlink ...........
    social bookmarking
    article writing
    blog commenting
    forum posting.
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  • Profile picture of the author richardfranklin
    Well, before you step on the next stage, you should clean your website or your on-page, means make it a quality website, a very good content, and an attractive design.

    I would recommend, the first thing you should do after an on-page SEO is classified ads submissions, business listing, or in short start your link building. However, in link building, don’t overdo it, just submit 10, 10 submissions for business listing, classified submissions, and etc. as Google will treat you a spammer. In submissions, your content should be informative, interesting, and unique as people will really like to read with those factors.

    Keep in mind that, you should focus your optimization for the people, not for search engines as people are the most important factors in driving more traffic and the more people will visit your website, that will surely increase your rankings in the search engine results page.
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    • Profile picture of the author dagnyjbarber
      Originally Posted by richardfranklin View Post

      Well, before you step on the next stage, you should clean your website or your on-page, means make it a quality website, a very good content, and an attractive design.

      I would recommend, the first thing you should do after an on-page SEO is classified ads submissions, business listing, or in short start your link building. However, in link building, don't overdo it, just submit 10, 10 submissions for business listing, classified submissions, and etc. as Google will treat you a spammer. In submissions, your content should be informative, interesting, and unique as people will really like to read with those factors.

      Keep in mind that, you should focus your optimization for the people, not for search engines as people are the most important factors in driving more traffic and the more people will visit your website, that will surely increase your rankings in the search engine results page.
      I agree with this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Berniceh
    Originally Posted by tales View Post

    Hi,
    i am a newbie to SEO.
    I know there are lot of steps do start SEO from Article submission to Social bookmarking.

    My website is (on page) optimized and its about 3 months old.
    I would like to start with off page optimization
    so .. what is the first step to dive in.
    I want to do it everything manually.

    I know there are lot of Profi SEO guys out here .. so waiting for your success quotes.

    Thanks.
    Hi,thanks for your question.You can create many backlinks for off-page optimization such as profile backlink,social bookmarking,directory submission,article submission,blog comments,press release,link wheel,web 2.0 property creation and submit article to create link wheel.All are these are very important for your site off-page optimization.
    Thamks
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  • Profile picture of the author gary lee
    I have to agree with a few of the others and say that before you go off page make sure your on page is good. Great content along with proper keywords pointing from title tags, alt tags and meta descriptions should all be gone over and then checked again. Also try to keep your content changing and constantly adding.
    It's like the tortois and the hare. The tortois will always win in SEO. Slow and steady will win this race.
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  • Profile picture of the author kazim
    I think blog commenting is a better way for your seo.
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    • Profile picture of the author aident364
      I think firstly you have to create a relevant site full of your desired content.
      You must optimize every page on your site. This includes careful consideration of the page titles within the code, the page URL name itself, the header of the page, the body text, amongst other content points.
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  • Profile picture of the author linkbuildingpro
    Did you try by yourself first? You should try first then learn from experience member to get knowledge.
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  • Profile picture of the author Thinking_man_too
    Wow. Some of the advice here is scary. I mean really bad.

    Start by reading. Make sure you are reading recent articles and guides (written since say 5/01/2012. A lot of conventional SEO wisdom went out the window with the Panda Updates and the the Penguin Updates -these were named updates to google search Algo.)

    DO learn keyword research.
    DO make sure you know the market niche that you want to enter. Learn the lingo. Learn what readers are looking for. check out the top 10 sites in that niche. Learn what makes them the top 10.
    DO read articles about over optimization
    DO read articles that tell you what the google Panda and Penguin updates changed.
    DO

    What I would avoid doing:
    - avoid advice that focus on backlinking and nothing else.
    - avoid spending a lot of money on any tools or services until you really think you know what you are doing.
    - avoid backlinking advice from people promoting backlinking in their signature.
    - avoid buying any websites until you really really know what you are doing.

    If you think you are going to make $xxx a month in 60 days don't.
    If you really need to make $xxx a month RIGHT AWAY get a second job.
    If you don't like the internet, doing research, writing, reading, trying and failing and trying again, then do something else.

    And thats probably enough to get started with.
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  • Profile picture of the author mmrumii
    Go to google and try searching any pdf for learning SEO.
    Then try to understand first, what is SEO.
    Then follow those instruction of the pdf. I have followed this instruction to learn SEO .
    Hope you'll be able to do that. best of luck. go on with your great responsibility.
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  • Profile picture of the author Yohance j
    I hired a pro to do both my onsite as well as offsite seo. That was my first step
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  • Profile picture of the author jipolis7
    Try to make good backlinks by blog commenting , social bookmarking , forum posting , directory submission , article submission , video optimization , press release submission . After getting good result , you can start guest posting .
    Most importantly should do all the things in steady form . Otherwise you should be penalized by google for spamming , when you are not spamming at all.
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  • Profile picture of the author sudama88
    Hi,
    First of all You have to analysis your website and do onpage SEO Then start offpage SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    The best thing you can do is ask a bunch of ill informed people on a public forum, then sift through dozens of useless responses.
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    • Profile picture of the author RedShifted
      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      The best thing you can do is ask a bunch of ill informed people on a public forum, then sift through dozens of useless responses.

      Yes, including this one.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aira Bongco
    You don't really need to complicate things so much. Just look for some keywords using the Google Keyword tool. Look for medium competition keywords around 200-500 searches that is related to your niche and start targeting these keywords as you create content and build backlinks. You'll probably see some decent traffic everywhere in a matter of days. It depends on how much effort you are willing to put in everyday.
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  • Profile picture of the author jipolis7
    you can start with directory submission and social bookmarking . i think this is the best way to start off page seo
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    Everyone here tellin you build backlink but dont tellin you what is bad thing about backlink this so bad
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  • Profile picture of the author mikejohnsnap
    Find out keywords in your content and most important one is present in your domain name and titles. - Check your sitemap. It should be well-organized and provide error free data. Check inner linking system. It should be simple and effective.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elfen Lied
    You need to do keyword research and find out what keywords you want to go after. The more competitive the kw, the more it's going to take to rank your site.

    I use SEO yoast for my seo on my blogs. Just make sure you figure out your keywords before getting started...
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  • Profile picture of the author MonitorScout
    There is no specific task to start with, in SEO Off Page work.

    You can start with article submission work, since you are new, so your first intention should be to crawl your page, so that it will get indexed asap to get ranking in search engine.

    Apart from that you can start participating in forums, social bookmarking, classified submission etc.
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    Building backlinks via blog comment, forum links, press release, etc..
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  • Profile picture of the author aaron786
    I think you should start with social book marking , directory submitting and social book marking because there is less chance of spam and then you can start working social networking to get more traffic ,
    and after some time (usually 1-2 months) you can work on all other SEO techniques as well ,
    and i hope by follow this you can get high rank on the search engine permanently ,
    Best regards ,
    Aaron ,
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  • Profile picture of the author easypr
    Starts with directory submission, submit your website to cache PR 1+ web directory, then after go for social bookmarking, article submission, press release submission, guest post etc. But directory & social bookmarking do on regular basis.
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  • Profile picture of the author themen710
    SEO is really important for business because it is only way to make search engine pay attention to things you offer and they may be pretty close to the products wanted by your potential customers. So you should begin SEO by page content. You must optimize every page on your site. This consists of the page title within code, the page URL name itself, the header of page, the body text among other content things from your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author mightygeek
    Hello Tales,

    It's great that you understood & implemented on-page optimization. To get into off-page, you need to get genuine links from same niche/sector.

    Make note for these points:-

    Do's

    1)Get links from exact or related websites
    2)Make sure the link you are expecting should be from credible ranked websites
    3)If you are expecting links from other side, make sure 'they are giving links with related anchor text'
    4)Make sure the website has less out-going links(ranking purpose)
    5)Create yourself a social community(Facebook page or Google or forums etc) or engage(commenting, posting etc) within your related social communities.
    6)SES -search engine submissions, always prefer to submit to top search engine's(usually Google, Bing etc).
    7)Web directories submissions, only go for popular directories. Never submit your link's, article's or anything by bulk, seriously it does identified to be as SPAM.
    8)If you have good time, do some infographic about latest things & share it via flickr, photobucket, picasa etc.
    9)Do some interesting and engaging videos and share it via YouTube(recommend)
    10)Write some high quality, optimized articles and submit to article directories(only top preferred)
    11)If you website is product/business related try press release & classified ad promotion.
    12)Submit your website to RSS feed directories.
    13)Prepare some engaging stuff related to your site & share it via document sharing websites.(recommend)
    14)Ask for *authority-bloggers* for getting your article posted in their web-blog. (recommend)

    Dont's & check for....

    1)Never ever buy links(attention)
    2)Never ever exchange/build backlinks heavily (attention)
    3)Don't go for exchanging backlinks to spam website's(note)
    4)Never-ever try software's which create links automatically.
    5)If you are theme designer, never place your links aggressively in footer's!(Google-spam)
    6)While in social forums, never place too many signature links(spam), only related one's.
    7)Never ever create too many mini site's, and create links back to your website(spam)
    8)Getting links with unrelated anchor text.


    NOTE:-

    1)Never expect getting results within hour's or days, based on your competition.
    2)If you have done on-page optimization, then it cover's 50% of your stress! To gain leverage you can either expect aggressive results from off-page or nothing at all.
    3)Always be updated regarding search engine guidelines.
    4)Opt in for top search related communities(recommend)
    5)Never do all of these in bulk or at-a-time, if so it is identified as SPAM!
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  • Profile picture of the author IamGrace
    Aloha!

    Of course, in order to start you should make these essentials in the top of your priority list; Keyword Research, Great content, Accessibility, Link Building, Socialize.

    But don't push yourself by doing all these at once, take time to study them and you're well on your way to SEO success.

    And if you are still in doubt to dive in, you can try to search on SEO/IM websites who offers free videos and tutorials like the one i've been using. GOOD LUCK!
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  • Profile picture of the author hirithk
    Hi
    Do from directory submission, go with basic steps it will help you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Hansons
    Give time for indexing, when your page is indexed good then you should start building links, I would say.
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