Any Penguin Survivors? How did you make a comeback?

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Hi all,

I was wondering if anyone could help...

All of my main sites were hit by Google penguin. Panda didn't leave a mark as I believe the sites have great unique relevant content and are updated regularly. The issue obviously lied with the backlinking as they were very anchor text rich and did look rather unnatural.

Anyway, I have tried countless ways to retrieve my original page one rankings but so far no luck.

What i tried:
1.) One method I focused was to totally clean up my backlinks from quality sites and diluting the high % of anchor text links.

While this one focuses directly on what penguin hates, as Google penguin has not updated for months, nothing positive has come of this one yet.

2.) Another one was to do a lengthy redirect, where I spent ages setting up a sister site, positing quality daily content, backlinking, social marketing etc.

This although the hardest effort has given hope. At the start the old site was absolutely no where, after the redirect the sister site went to page four/five. Not first where the original rankings were, but certainly a lot closer.


I was wondering if any penguin survivors could please share their experience and what they did to make a come back?

Look forward to your replies
#comeback #make #penguin #survivors
  • Profile picture of the author Ettienne
    It's relatively easy. Just go through your most important pages and check your on-page SEO. Make sure that it's not keyword-stuffed, rewrite/edit/add some text, add a pic or two with ALT tags and you should be fine. Penguin has more to do with on-page SEO than anything else, regardless of who says what.
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    • Profile picture of the author retsek
      Originally Posted by Ettienne View Post

      Penguin has more to do with on-page SEO than anything else, regardless of who says what.
      ..says the guy selling artificial links.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by Ettienne View Post

      It's relatively easy. Just go through your most important pages and check your on-page SEO. Make sure that it's not keyword-stuffed, rewrite/edit/add some text, add a pic or two with ALT tags and you should be fine. Penguin has more to do with on-page SEO than anything else, regardless of who says what.
      If that is the case then why does it seem that many of the sites which are on page 1 for decent keywords now either have hardly any backlinks or they've got diverse backlink anchor text using anchors such as click here, their URL, etc...

      Add or pic or two? Penguin has hit loads of peoples site which had pics with ALT text. What is adding more pics going to do?

      How do you determine whether a page is keyword stuffed? Is that just ensuring your targetted keyword is below a certain density?

      Originally Posted by FrankRumbauskas View Post

      Make a new site, we've ranked many brand-new sites for very high competition keywords. The myth of the google "dance" or "sandbox" on new sites is just that, a myth due to people not knowing what they're doing when it comes to SEO.

      On-site SEO is a myth. We've ranked BLANK sites for highly competitive keywords just to prove it can be done. SEO is 100% off-site.
      100% off site? So do you reckon plugins such as SEO Pressor are worth nothing at all then and just a resource hog?
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  • Profile picture of the author Becker13
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    Originally Posted by galmiar View Post

    Hi all,

    I was wondering if anyone could help...

    All of my main sites were hit by Google penguin. Panda didn't leave a mark as I believe the sites have great unique relevant content and are updated regularly. The issue obviously lied with the backlinking as they were very anchor text rich and did look rather unnatural.

    Anyway, I have tried countless ways to retrieve my original page one rankings but so far no luck.

    What i tried:
    1.) One method I focused was to totally clean up my backlinks from quality sites and diluting the high % of anchor text links.

    While this one focuses directly on what penguin hates, as Google penguin has not updated for months, nothing positive has come of this one yet.

    2.) Another one was to do a lengthy redirect, where I spent ages setting up a sister site, positing quality daily content, backlinking, social marketing etc.

    This although the hardest effort has given hope. At the start the old site was absolutely no where, after the redirect the sister site went to page four/five. Not first where the original rankings were, but certainly a lot closer.


    I was wondering if any penguin survivors could please share their experience and what they did to make a come back?

    Look forward to your replies

    Make new site....Buy high PR domains....Link to site...

    Then hit site with High PR non anchor text wikis and comments

    Continue making money
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    • Profile picture of the author galmiar
      Great thank you for your imput!

      Are they any other penguin survivors out there who care to share?
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  • Profile picture of the author Weedy92
    Time + Getting below that Filter again are what's to be done. But it's too soon for anyone to really know exactly. The best options are to edit your on-page keywords, dilute your anchor text, add quality content, remove any low quality content, and basically make your site appear legit again. But each site is unique so that's why everyone's process in recovering is slighty diffrent..

    But stop and think. Is it worth your time to restore that site working on it. Or is your time and money better spent making a new site.. Think of ROI. I can rank new sites with ease these days, working on a post update site doesn't seem worth it to me. Then again, I've never had a site that has been hit by any updates, but I've worked with people who have and are currently struggling with that.
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  • Profile picture of the author FrankRumbauskas
    Make a new site, we've ranked many brand-new sites for very high competition keywords. The myth of the google "dance" or "sandbox" on new sites is just that, a myth due to people not knowing what they're doing when it comes to SEO.

    On-site SEO is a myth. We've ranked BLANK sites for highly competitive keywords just to prove it can be done. SEO is 100% off-site.
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    • Profile picture of the author DNAWRealm
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      Originally Posted by FrankRumbauskas View Post

      Make a new site, we've ranked many brand-new sites for very high competition keywords. The myth of the google "dance" or "sandbox" on new sites is just that, a myth due to people not knowing what they're doing when it comes to SEO.

      On-site SEO is a myth. We've ranked BLANK sites for highly competitive keywords just to prove it can be done. SEO is 100% off-site.
      I beg to disagree.

      I've played around with on-page SEO several times and noticed tremendous SEO results. I link all articles to the homepage with the same anchor text and funnily enough, the homepage goes up in ranking. That's with no backlinks. I've also done it with varied anchor text and seen those anchor texts rise in the search engines with no off-page seo with same anchor text.
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      • Profile picture of the author galmiar
        Originally Posted by DNAWRealm View Post

        I beg to disagree.

        I've played around with on-page SEO several times and noticed tremendous SEO results. I link all articles to the homepage with the same anchor text and funnily enough, the homepage goes up in ranking. That's with no backlinks. I've also done it with varied anchor text and seen those anchor texts rise in the search engines with no off-page seo with same anchor text.
        wow, this is interesting. Did this method work since penguin and panda please?
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    • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
      Originally Posted by FrankRumbauskas View Post

      On-site SEO is a myth. We've ranked BLANK sites for highly competitive keywords just to prove it can be done. SEO is 100% off-site.
      What a joke!!!! if there's any proof then show us but without backing yourself up dont just come out here and say nonsense like these.

      i'd suggest anyone to not believe him. SEO is not 100% off-site!!
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by Ben Acharyaa View Post

        What a joke!!!! if there's any proof then show us but without backing yourself up dont just come out here and say nonsense like these.

        i'd suggest anyone to not believe him. SEO is not 100% off-site!!


        This explains a lot:

        Originally Posted by FrankRumbauskas View Post

        We had one client paying us six figures per MONTH to rank #1 for a keyword that is one of the most competitive in the world with 1.7 BILLION results! It's so competitive even Wikipedia's result is on page 3 or 4.
        :rolleyes:
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        • Profile picture of the author Ben Acharyaa
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          This explains a lot:
          Originally Posted by FrankRumbauskas
          We had one client paying us six figures per MONTH to rank #1 for a keyword that is one of the most competitive in the world with 1.7 BILLION results! It's so competitive even Wikipedia's result is on page 3 or 4.
          :rolleyes:
          Lol that was classic!! probably the only SEO company that measures competition on the basis of number of results displayed in google. i'm amazed to see they are still in business!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Greg71
    I got hit for spamming my home page with 1000 free spammy links.

    I de-optimized my home page a bit (changed the title and headings a bit), then added about 3 plr articles every 3 days, social bookmarking them as I went.

    Site came back from oblivion to page 1 within a month.
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  • Profile picture of the author galmiar
    Excellent guys there is a lot of helpful info here! Keep them coming if you have any experiences
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    Get Better Links.

    Get HIGH PR Contextual links from various sources with unique content (no not from BMR or any PUBLIC blog network) Yes, I said public because I am not to sure why people call them private if everyone knows about them..lol

    Just focus on getting better links.

    -Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author mogawk
    I know of some people that got back by just going through and removing bad links to their sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Penguin has everything to do with your backlink profile. Not your shitty content.

    Would you like a recovery tip based on fact?

    Your backlink profile (anchors) should consist primarily of the following.

    1. Your brand name
    2. Naked URLS
    3. Image links (no anchor text)
    4. Keyword permutations
    5. A variety of generic terms (your name, visit website etc)

    Do that, and you can recover.

    If your backlink profile has been spammed to death, consider diluting your anchor text links by using press releases.

    If its beyond fixing, ditch the site and start over.
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  • Profile picture of the author EdwardDennis
    Originally Posted by FrankRumbauskas View Post

    We had one client paying us six figures per MONTH to rank #1 for a keyword that is one of the most competitive in the world with 1.7 BILLION results! It's so competitive even Wikipedia's result is on page 3 or 4.
    Moment of silence to our bro who pays 6 figures a month....
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  • Profile picture of the author John Romaine
    Six figures.

    $0,005.00
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    • Profile picture of the author yukon
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      Originally Posted by John Romaine View Post

      Six figures.

      $0,005.00
      Owning fiverr $5 at a time.
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