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Personal blog, that will help newbies, suggestions needed.

by nest28
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I recently decided to create a personal blog so I can stop ranting about crappy niches sites and fake income statements on the Wf and do it on my own site . Last nite I checked on some very popular bloggers to see how they run things , and all of the guys who earn a good living from there readers really don't seem to give back to their community. These bloggers claim to make 15,20, or 25 grand a month, yet all I see is a bunch of affiliate links and income statements, showing their readers how they make 20,000 a month, how does that help them? It may inspire them, but that's about it.



So what I propose, is having a blog that actually helps newbies get there foot in the door, by having case studies that shows how to rank sites, showing the actual url of the site I'm trying to rank, and get this, once it's ranked I'll give it away for free, to who idk yet, maybe the top commenter. I basically want to build a website that supplies has much information as possible. To be honest I am thinking of creating my own products or endorsing products that I believe will help marketers, so yes I plan to make money from this site, but unlike other marketers , some of this money will be reinvested to help the ones that help me earn it in the first place, so I see it as a win, win, you help me and I'll help you.


I see so many people being taking advantage of online everyday, and I just think back to when I was new, and willing to pay 100 dollars for crappy backliking services because there wasn't anybody saying not to, back at that time if somebody showed a screen shot of them making 10 grand I probably would have believed them, well probably not but still, you understand what I'm saying.


I have so many ideas, that I just can't wait to get started on, this could be so much fun for all of us, we can learn together, some ideas like showing the url of the site I'm trying to rank may not work for various reasons (haters/negative SEO) but whatever I'll still try it, and if that doesn't work I'll just show stats without the url.


I'm just tired of seeing newbies ask question only to get generic answers, or to received straight up BS answers from other noobs who don't know sh*t, and seeing marketers have blogs where they make a full time living and just say hahaha, I made 20,000 this month from you guys, see here's my income statements, and that as much as they give back.


Anyways any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated as always, I'm not trying to promote or sell anything, my site is nowhere near finished and in the mean time I've even decided to feature other marketers blogs in my sig, to help newbies gain extra exposure, just pm if you would like me to put yours their also, if you have a real site anyways, about IM, no sense advertising your keywords if it's in another niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    Now you know your blog won't be complete without your own fake income statement as well, but don't go like others for some half believable 20k per month. Blow it out! I want to see an income statement from you like 160k

    Actually this is a good thing you are doing, clearly you are long winded and have some things to say.. newbies would do well to listen. What this gives though is something easier for people to read and comb through unlike the forums where a thread gets lost in a day.

    Good luck and I expect to see good things (like an income statement!)
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Nelapsi View Post

      clearly you are long winded
      I don't know whether or not to take that as a compliment or a insult lol, as for the income statements I'm thinking of making of 7,500 a month, that believable. This site wont be about just my personal views , there will be free services, tools,products and all things IM will be discussed, I gotten a bit long winded only recently, probably because I have more to say than others, bad for forum(kinda) good for writing articles.
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
    It's funny with the whole income thing online. If someone said they were making $4000/month online, people would crush them as a liar. If the same person said they were making $24,000/month, people would be lining up to buy their course.

    If you are going to tell a lie, make it a big lie.

    Good luck with your site.
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  • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
    The make money online market is really saturated. How do you convince people that you are honest and knowledgeable and the rest are not? People flock to evidence of success like pictures of checks or income statements or ranking experiments. They beleive what they see or read. Proving honest success is difficult because it can all be faked.

    If you want to get a good following, IMO, you need to have a successful website. You need to have evidence that you know what you are doing and can offer valuable information to your readers.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

      The make money online market is really saturated. How do you convince people that you are honest and knowledgeable and the rest are not? People flock to evidence of success like pictures of checks or income statements or ranking experiments. They beleive what they see or read. Proving honest success is difficult because it can all be faked.

      If you want to get a good following, IMO, you need to have a successful website. You need to have evidence that you know what you are doing and can offer valuable information to your readers.
      That's the problem right there, so many people want to know how much you make, they want to see income statements, why? How is that putting money in your pockets?

      By now I think everyone here knows my views, people know I speak my mind, I'm not a fake guru, you can tell by the topics I chose to discuss that I actually care about seeing people be successful. I only want to start out with a small group of readers anyway, the smaller the group the more I'll b able to help, once I help them they will spread the word, it will be like having free affiliates.
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      • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        That's the problem right there, so many people want to know how much you make, they want to see income statements, why? How is that putting money in your pockets?

        By now I think everyone here knows my views, people know I speak my mind, I'm not a fake guru, you can tell by the topics I chose to discuss that I actually care about seeing people be successful. I only want to start out with a small group of readers anyway, the smaller the group the more I'll b able to help, once I help them they will spread the word, it will be like having free affiliates.
        People want to know how much you make because they have to decide if it is valuable to follow your methods. Who would take advice from someone who is not successful? It just doesn't make sense.

        If I want to learn how to play basketball, I would talk to Michael Jordan and not Bill Gates.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilee
    This is random and I'm not sure it'll really work BUT...

    I've always had an idea of an SEO "league" website where people sign up to compete against each other for a really random keyword. There'll be a leadership board and the people at the top of the leadership board can officially say they're one of the best SEO providers.

    Haven't worked through the logistics of it, I know a lot of SEO providers will be reluctant to show their money makers, and some feel they don't need to prove themselves etc. In fact, yeah it probably won't work but maybe some ideas can spawn from this one

    By the way the website sounds good, let me know when it's live mate.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by ichl13 View Post

      This is random and I'm not sure it'll really work BUT...

      I've always had an idea of an SEO "league" website where people sign up to compete against each other for a really random keyword. There'll be a leadership board and the people at the top of the leadership board can officially say they're one of the best SEO providers.

      Haven't worked through the logistics of it, I know a lot of SEO providers will be reluctant to show their money makers, and some feel they don't need to prove themselves etc. In fact, yeah it probably won't work but maybe some ideas can spawn from this one

      By the way the website sounds good, let me know when it's live mate.
      See to me, that's a great idea, I'm sure smart link builders could rank a site without using their secret method or showing their own networks, it could be like our version of sports, people could rout for their favorite SEO provider, but like you said it will never happen.

      Everyone so secretive about everything, that's why so many people fail, they only have hearsay to go on, if SEO providers did something like this, people would have some idea of how to actually rank sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mantasmo
    Good luck nest. It's a long process with very little reward. Very few people are actually looking for actionable info, and only about 0.01% out of those people actually go through with any of it. If you aim to make money with a site/blog like that - plan for the long term (like 2-4 years or so).

    There's a reason why income reports/claims exist - that shit sells, bro. Same goes for affiliate links. Oh btw big secret - sign up as an affiliate for Bluehost, that's where you'll make the most monies. Another secret - don't write about anything too complicated. A guide to "making $100k in your first year with websites" only needs a basic WP setup tutorial and maybe some info on finding a niche you enjoy writing about. That's it. LOL.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
      Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

      Good luck nest. It's a long process with very little reward. Very few people are actually looking for actionable info, and only about 0.01% out of those people actually go through with any of it. If you aim to make money with a site/blog like that - plan for the long term (like 2-4 years or so).

      There's a reason why income reports/claims exist - that shit sells, bro. Same goes for affiliate links. Oh btw big secret - sign up as an affiliate for Bluehost, that's where you'll make the most monies. Another secret - don't write about anything too complicated. A guide to "making $100k in your first year with websites" only needs a basic WP setup tutorial and maybe some info on finding a niche you enjoy writing about. That's it. LOL.

      Good luck!
      "A guide to making $100k in your first year with websites only needs a basic WP setup tutorial and maybe some info on finding a niche you enjoy writing about"

      BRILLIANT!!!!!....This is the "Secret" to IM. A WP blog, lucrative topic and write every minute of everyday. That's it!!!

      SEO = Total BS
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by bnetwork View Post

        Good luck nest. It's a long process with very little reward. Very few people are actually looking for actionable info, and only about 0.01% out of those people actually go through with any of it. If you aim to make money with a site/blog like that - plan for the long term (like 2-4 years or so).

        There's a reason why income reports/claims exist - that shit sells, bro. Same goes for affiliate links. Oh btw big secret - sign up as an affiliate for Bluehost, that's where you'll make the most monies. Another secret - don't write about anything too complicated. A guide to "making $100k in your first year with websites" only needs a basic WP setup tutorial and maybe some info on finding a niche you enjoy writing about. That's it. LOL.

        Good luck!
        Believe I know the path I'm taking is the one less traveled, it would be sooo easy to take a 3 month break(just long enough for people to say hey what ever happen to nest) than return , telling everyone how I make 3,000 a month and they can to if they just buy this 12 dollar e-book of mine, man I'm telling you it would be sooo easy.
        Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

        People want to know how much you make because they have to decide if it is valuable to follow your methods. Who would take advice from someone who is not successful? It just doesn't make sense.

        If I want to learn how to play basketball, I would talk to Michael Jordan and not Bill Gates.
        I understand what your saying, but if I'm making 10,000 a month how is that help you, even if I say I do it by making niche sites, and had 30 minute video, how would that help, in reality all it would do is put money in my pockets, because than people would say, what tools do you use, I would say, Long tail pro <- affiliate link, senuke/magic submitter <- affiliate link, in the end those people make more money from marketers buying product through their affiliate links than they do from whatever method their teaching.

        I want to show people step by step, with real example, here how you pick a keyword(show actually keyword) not blue widgets, and here's the site I plan to rank (show actual url).

        The marketers who follow so called gurus will only add to their income, I'm not trying make million dollars here, just help people, smart marketers will see that, and stick around and because I've gained their trust, if and when I decided to launch a product it will sell very easily.
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        • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

          Believe I know the path I'm taking is the one less traveled, it would be sooo easy to take a 3 month break(just long enough for people to say hey what ever happen to nest) than return , telling everyone how I make 3,000 a month and they can to if they just buy this 12 dollar e-book of mine, man I'm telling you it would be sooo easy.


          I understand what your saying, but if I'm making 10,000 a month how is that help you, even if I say I do it by making niche sites, and had 30 minute video, how would that help, in reality all it would do is put money in my pockets, because than people would say, what tools do you use, I would say, Long tail pro <- affiliate link, senuke/magic submitter <- affiliate link, in the end those people make more money from marketers buying product through their affiliate links than they do from whatever method their teaching.

          I want to show people step by step, with real example, here how you pick a keyword(show actually keyword) not blue widgets, and here's the site I plan to rank (show actual url).

          The marketers who follow so called gurus will only add to their income, I'm not trying make million dollars here, just help people, smart marketers will see that, and stick around and because I've gained their trust, if and when I decided to launch a product it will sell very easily.
          Your first step will need to be building a website that gets a lot of traffic. People will follow you when you have something they want.
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        • Profile picture of the author moneymoguls
          Originally Posted by nest28 View Post


          I understand what your saying, but if I'm making 10,000 a month how is that help you, even if I say I do it by making niche sites, and had 30 minute video, how would that help, in reality all it would do is put money in my pockets, because than people would say, what tools do you use, I would say, Long tail pro <- affiliate link, senuke/magic submitter <- affiliate link, in the end those people make more money from marketers buying product through their affiliate links than they do from whatever method their teaching.

          I want to show people step by step, with real example, here how you pick a keyword(show actually keyword) not blue widgets, and here's the site I plan to rank (show actual url).

          The marketers who follow so called gurus will only add to their income, I'm not trying make million dollars here, just help people, smart marketers will see that, and stick around and because I've gained their trust, if and when I decided to launch a product it will sell very easily.
          How will you help people make money online if you do not make money online?

          You are headed into a hugely saturated market that is notorious for rip offs.
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          • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
            I come from a very extensive sales background. I will be the first to say that almost every experienced marketer would run laps around me in terms of experience but one thing that most marketers really lack is a proper way to present and connect with their customers/prospects. This is the direction I'm trying to go in with my site.

            Sure, I have a few affiliate links out there, but at the end of the day, the priority of my articles that I write is to communicate in a way that allows newcomers and seasoned veterans alike to understand what I'm trying to explain. If I'm writing something that I don't know a lot about compared to other people, I say it right off the bat and in a specific case I had someone make a correction to me on something I was inaccurate on and I posted that quote right on the site. (It was you Nest lol).

            To avoid digressing too much, back to the point I'm trying to make.

            The key to sales isn't presenting. It isn't listing the benefits. It isn't listing the features and it definitely isn't listing how much money they can make; it's asking the right questions. It's asking them what they are expecting out of what they are interested in. It's asking where their goals are in relation to what they are trying to accomplish.

            I've fallen victim to a few rip-offs. I've bought a few WSOs that I wished I hadn't. But one thing that I have noticed, is every marketer out there that I follow, every blog that I re-visit has one thing in common. They connect with me and seem genuine. They communicate to me with their information by having me as a reader ask myself the right questions which ultimately causes ME to justify if what they are offering is right for me.

            I'm all for your idea. We've even talked a little bit about it so you know I'm on the same page.
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          • Profile picture of the author nest28
            Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

            How will you help people make money online if you do not make money online?

            You are headed into a hugely saturated market that is notorious for rip offs.
            How do you know I don't make money online? Oh because I told everyone, that's how people know to trust me over everybody else that say trust them, I could have easily kept that a secret.

            I already know everything your saying, been there done that, I had people asking me to make a WSO, Marketers were pming like crazy asking me to promote their products at the time I made this thread http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-keywords.html , it's funny how things change isn't it.

            Since losing my sites Nest can't give good advice because he's not making any money right now huh, if right now Yukon said he was broke and starting up a blog, I would follow him in heart beat, because of his reputation and knowledge on IM/SEO, I could careless about how much he makes.

            People on this forum only know what I tell them, I have other projects that I don't talk about, I've made connection that will defiantly help me out, and I already have a small but loyal following here on the WF and that's all I need for this particular project.

            Man on this forum, just like in any place in the world , money talks and bullsh*t walks. The masses rather be spoon fed fake guru bs and be lied to than visit a site with good info, I already said that I would show examples of sites, real sites, who else is doing that, who else would rank a site and give it to some struggling newbie? nobody, that is what will seperates me from the rest of the fake gurus, and that is why people will remember and frequently visit anti-marketers.com.


            Edit: It was in that old thread that I discovered how much I liked helping people,, I answered everyone's question as if I was getting paid to do so, after that thread died down I didn't disappear like most who start those kinds of threads and I never came out with any products, I only wanted to help.
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          • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
            Originally Posted by moneymoguls View Post

            How will you help people make money online if you do not make money online?

            You are headed into a hugely saturated market that is notorious for rip offs.
            The interesting thing about the saturation of that particular market is that it's saturated for a reason - it is making people money.

            Yes, there are dishonest marketers out there and yes they are making loads of money by suckering people into buying their crazy offer that will make them thousands of dollars a month for little to no work.

            But on the other hand, there are genuine people out there that were in the newcomers shoes. That struggled with marketing and struggled to make a living but found a way to succeed and genuinely want to share that with other people.

            So how will you help people make money if you're not making money? Simple - you reap what you sow. If I started writing an article about a project I'm working on to see if I can bring in a few bucks...people will follow it. Even if I fail miserably at the idea. People LOVE success stories. Honest or not, people love to read about the underdogs overcoming impossible odds. But more importantly, people also enjoy reading about how someone failed and why they failed and what they did to pick themselves back up again.

            Unfortunately people tend to embellish their stories. But there are those out there who are sincere.

            Whether you're making money or not, if you are documenting your failures and/or successes. People are going to see the sincerity in your words. They will be rooting for you, cheering for you, they will be motivated by you. This will result in a following, a subscriber-base and ultimately result in you making money by helping them learn from your mistakes.
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            • Profile picture of the author nest28
              Originally Posted by CtrlAltRage View Post

              The interesting thing about the saturation of that particular market is that it's saturated for a reason - it is making people money.

              Yes, there are dishonest marketers out there and yes they are making loads of money by suckering people into buying their crazy offer that will make them thousands of dollars a month for little to no work.

              But on the other hand, there are genuine people out there that were in the newcomers shoes. That struggled with marketing and struggled to make a living but found a way to succeed and genuinely want to share that with other people.

              So how will you help people make money if you're not making money? Simple - you reap what you sow. If I started writing an article about a project I'm working on to see if I can bring in a few bucks...people will follow it. Even if I fail miserably at the idea. People LOVE success stories. Honest or not, people love to read about the underdogs overcoming impossible odds. But more importantly, people also enjoy reading about how someone failed and why they failed and what they did to pick themselves back up again.

              Unfortunately people tend to embellish their stories. But there are those out there who are sincere.

              Whether you're making money or not, if you are documenting your failures and/or successes. People are going to see the sincerity in your words. They will be rooting for you, cheering for you, they will be motivated by you. This will result in a following, a subscriber-base and ultimately result in you making money by helping them learn from your mistakes.
              Yea what he said, ya dig.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    This is actually a very good example of what happens when you help people, I told CtrlAltRage that I would put his site in my sig to help get his site some visitors, I wasn't using my sig, so why not help somebody else out, now look I have someone who is willing to defend me, and my views because I help him with no personal gain in mind, now apply this on a much larger scale and you will build a very loyal following.

    Treat people right and they will do the same., do dirt, you get dirt. I even have someone willing to proof read my articles for free and rewrite them with proper grammar, I told them that when I make my site, I'll create a recommended services page and she would be at the top of the list, this is how you build a following from the ground up, every popular blogger started with nothing, and no followers/readers.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Nest I know you have good intentions, but you might want to double check WF sig. rules, before promoting other peoples domains in your sig. Just a heads up.

    Specifically #5 on the list.

    (5) No Affiliate Links Allowed - Promote Your Own Domain/s Only. It's either this or we have to cut out sig files altogether which we do not want to do.
    I think you would be better off creating a page on your domain, then promote whatever you want.
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    • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
      Originally Posted by yukon View Post

      Nest I know you have good intentions, but you might want to double check WF sig. rules, before promoting other peoples domains in your sig. Just a heads up.

      Specifically #5 on the list.



      I think you would be better off creating a page on your domain, then promote whatever you want.

      Heya Yukon,

      The link in his sig is to my site but the link itself isn't an affiliate link. There are articles that do include affiliate links but the site is mainly articles with the intent to educate and offer a different approach to mindset.

      If that's still too thin of a line, I understand and don't want any repercussions to occur.
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        Originally Posted by CtrlAltRage View Post

        Heya Yukon,

        The link in his sig is to my site but the link itself isn't an affiliate link. There are articles that do include affiliate links but the site is mainly articles with the intent to educate and offer a different approach to mindset.

        If that's still too thin of a line, I understand and don't want any repercussions to occur.
        Just saying, the way I read #5 on that list was, WF wants only domains owned by the same forum member for the links in the sig. Maybe I read #5 wrong, but it looks straight forward to me (own the domain in the sig.).

        I imagine the reason they would want everyone to own the domain/link in the sigs. is, it would be very easy for someone to buy massive amounts of sig. links from respected forum members, instead of paying for advertising. Not saying that's happening here, just a heads up, that's all.
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        • Profile picture of the author CtrlAltRage
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Just saying, the way I read #5 on that list was, WF wants only domains owned by the same forum member for the links in the sig. Maybe I read #5 wrong, but it looks straight forward to me (own the domain in the sig.).

          I imagine the reason they would want everyone to own the domain/link in the sigs. is, it would be very easy for someone to buy massive amounts of sig. links from respected forum members, instead of paying for advertising. Not saying that's happening here, just a heads up, that's all.
          I appreciate the looking out. Don't want to cause any trouble. I let Nest know and he's gonna take it off his sig.
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          Just saying, the way I read #5 on that list was, WF wants only domains owned by the same forum member for the links in the sig. Maybe I read #5 wrong, but it looks straight forward to me (own the domain in the sig.).

          I imagine the reason they would want everyone to own the domain/link in the sigs. is, it would be very easy for someone to buy massive amounts of sig. links from respected forum members, instead of paying for advertising. Not saying that's happening here, just a heads up, that's all.
          Thank you, for pointing that out to me, man you know everything .
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          • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
            I just discovered this thread that is now over a week old.

            Nest28, how's it going? Are you still planning/working on this site?

            I would definitely be a reader if you get it done!
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