Question about Magic Submitter (after seeing Mosa videos)

by Iamcap
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Hello guys,

I just watched Mosa from WSOtesters videos about magic submitter and how they use it to rank, it seems straightforward enough, long story short, it automates spammy links through multiple tiers to a money site.

My only question to everyone is:

1- Does this REALLY work?

2- Is mosa ONLY doing this to supposedly rank his sites? Is he leaving any info out of his process? I.e social media pages, etc?
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Haven
    It can work, yes. But to have long term results you'd constantly need to be running it for the same keywords. Same as Senuke, effective, yes. Long-term, no.

    Plus, from my own experience there are much better tools than Magic Submitter. Spamming is not the way to go. Do quality SEO without blackhat tools and you'll be ranking for years instead of weeks/months.
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  • Profile picture of the author Iamcap
    I see. But what about if you did a single campaign to a low competition keyword, does that usually dissapear after some weeks/months also?
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  • Profile picture of the author Iamcap
    Yes he does seem like a cool guy by sharing a lot, but so are most other internet marketers in the money making niche.

    He does explicitly explain how he ranked the sites he is selling, so you are right, that is fair game. I have edited my original post, could you please edit your quote of me?

    I am thinking about trying to use Magic submitter but without spinning to see if I get any results. Has anyone tried doing that?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Iamcap View Post

      Yes he does seem like a cool guy by sharing a lot, but so are most other internet marketers in the money making niche.

      He does explicitly explain how he ranked the sites he is selling, so you are right, that is fair game. I have edited my original post, could you please edit your quote of me?

      I am thinking about trying to use Magic submitter but without spinning to see if I get any results. Has anyone tried doing that?
      You weren't bad mouthing him, you brought up a valid point/concern that anyone buying these type of sites would have, but sure I'll edit my post to.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshpat2
    1. they are making $150 plus a day so yes

    2. they are using pad links along side it

    3. i followed his plan and it works. if you do get ms make sure to dedicate at least 12 hrs of training to it. or you gona be wasting your money. once you master it it will change your world. 3.0 was just release fewdays ago massive
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by joshpat2 View Post

      1. they are making $150 plus a day so yes

      2. they are using pad links along side it

      3. i followed his plan and it works. if you do get ms make sure to dedicate at least 12 hrs of training to it. or you gona be wasting your money. once you master it it will change your world. 3.0 was just release fewdays ago massive
      I think it's important that people know, yes this method works now, will these type of links work a yr from now? idk, but I doubt it.I guess Penguin never happened huh lol, everyone who used software or who had built crap links was screaming SEO is dead, some gave up, others couldn't stop telling people how much they hated Google, all this was just 6 months ago, yet when I checked the forum all I see is talk of ranking niche sites, using Senuke or Magic Submitter.

      Marketers have a very short attention span/memory, very few marketers have learn their lesson, your building your business on quick sand, sacrificing longevity for short term gains.

      Hey what do I know, I'm just some guy who rants about doing the right thing, no one listens.
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      • Profile picture of the author Iamcap
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I think it's important that people know, yes this method works now, will these type of links work a yr from now? idk, but I doubt it.I guess Penguin never happened huh lol, everyone who used software or who had built crap links was screaming SEO is dead, some gave up, others couldn't stop telling people how much they hated Google, all this was just 6 months ago, yet when I checked the forum all I see is talk of ranking niche sites, using Senuke or Magic Submitter.

        Marketers have a very short attention span/memory, very few marketers have learn their lesson, your building your business on quick sand, sacrificing longevity for short term gains.

        Hey what do I know, I'm just some guy who rants about doing the right thing, no one listens.
        Automated tools like senuke and Magic Submitter are clearly not the way forward for long term websites but, what if you did an entire magic submitter campaign to a web 2.0 that looks and has content like a money site, but secretly it has a couple of well placed links back to the real money site amongst other high authority links.

        If anything ever happened to your main money site, it would be as simple as A- Delete the web 2 with all the spam behind it or B- remove links back to your main money site.

        What's your opinion on that strategy?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by Iamcap View Post

          Automated tools like senuke and Magic Submitter are clearly not the way forward for long term websites but, what if you did an entire magic submitter campaign to a web 2.0 that looks and has content like a money site, but secretly it has a couple of well placed links back to the real money site amongst other high authority links.

          If anything ever happened to your main money site, it would be as simple as A- Delete the web 2 with all the spam behind it or B- remove links back to your main money site.

          What's your opinion on that strategy?
          Sounds like a good plan, but Google engineers are extremely intelligent, I'm sure they wont let buffer sites last to much longer, this method is used to much by marketers for Google to ignore it.

          Either way why go through all of that, when you could build a great site, with quality links from the very start, it's really up to you, don't follow the herd, because when Google lays the smack down on their candy asses, you don't want to be one of those guys telling everyone how you hate Google, or you had buffer sites so why did they penalize me.

          Ask any senior member and they will tell you the same thing, they stop caring about noobs a long time ago because you guys never listen to good advice, or else the forum wouldn't be littered with garbage threads about software that will get you penalized, in the end it's you who screwed yourself, Google had nothing to do with it.

          None of this was directed at you, just some people on this forum.
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      • Profile picture of the author joshpat2
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        I think it's important that people know, yes this method works now, will these type of links work a yr from now? idk, but I doubt it.I guess Penguin never happened huh lol, everyone who used software or who had built crap links was screaming SEO is dead, some gave up, others couldn't stop telling people how much they hated Google, all this was just 6 months ago, yet when I checked the forum all I see is talk of ranking niche sites, using Senuke or Magic Submitter.

        Marketers have a very short attention span/memory, very few marketers have learn their lesson, your building your business on quick sand, sacrificing longevity for short term gains.

        Hey what do I know, I'm just some guy who rants about doing the right thing, no one listens.

        have you used magic submitter before ?
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        • Profile picture of the author nest28
          Originally Posted by joshpat2 View Post

          have you used magic submitter before ?
          Yes, I've used Senuke, AMR, SEO Link Robot and now Magic Submitter, except I'm using them on throw sites in a case study on another forum, I wouldn't use that software on my money site.
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    • Profile picture of the author Iamcap
      Originally Posted by joshpat2 View Post

      1. they are making $150 plus a day so yes

      2. they are using pad links along side it

      3. i followed his plan and it works. if you do get ms make sure to dedicate at least 12 hrs of training to it. or you gona be wasting your money. once you master it it will change your world. 3.0 was just release fewdays ago massive
      Did you follow his plan with pad links too? Or just Magic Submitter?

      And what do you mean by 12 hours of training? I've seen videos and I understand what it does, what else would i need to train in?
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      • Profile picture of the author joshpat2
        Originally Posted by Iamcap View Post

        Did you follow his plan with pad links too? Or just Magic Submitter?

        And what do you mean by 12 hours of training? I've seen videos and I understand what it does, what else would i need to train in?
        i did try the pad links service i also use another tool called abc3k

        that is just my suggestions ms is an extensive tool if you feel like you are ready then go ahed. remember its just a tool how you use it is up to you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mosa
    I'm the type of person who doesn't build a business off of fear. Will we have to adapt our methods as time goes by? I'm sure we will. But what business doesn't have to adapt?

    I can tell you that we're already building a few authority sites and experimenting with them. We're also trying out this whole "no link building strategy". At the same time though, we are still building niche sites the same way because it works. We've made quite a bit of money from it and we're reinvesting some of it into new projects and learning new methods.

    So are there risks? Yes. Are there other business models with less risk? Sure. It is what it is.

    When we first started, people were already saying that it was dead. I'm glad we tested it ourselves, gained investment capital, and learned enough along the way where we can jump into many other business models and come out on top.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by Mosa View Post

      I'm the type of person who doesn't build a business off of fear. Will we have to adapt our methods as time goes by? I'm sure we will. But what business doesn't have to adapt?

      I can tell you that we're already building a few authority sites and experimenting with them. We're also trying out this whole "no link building strategy". At the same time though, we are still building niche sites the same way because it works. We've made quite a bit of money from it and we're reinvesting some of it into new projects and learning new methods.

      So are there risks? Yes. Are there other business models with less risk? Sure. It is what it is.

      When we first started, people were already saying that it was dead. I'm glad we tested it ourselves, gained investment capital, and learned enough along the way where we can jump into many other business models and come out on top.
      Mosa, do I agree with building small niche sites? no I don't, am I glad that you became successful and realized this model may not always be as profitable? hell yes.

      I'm also glad you tested things yourself instead of going on hearsay about what does and doesn't work, and on top of that your testing other types of methods.

      Most people will follow your niche site example and stop there, without testing other methods, but that's their fault.
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      • Profile picture of the author Mosa
        Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

        Mosa, do I agree with building small niche sites? no I don't, am I glad that you became successful and realized this model may not always be as profitable? hell yes.

        I'm also glad you tested things yourself instead of going on hearsay about what does and doesn't work, and on top of that your testing other types of methods.

        Most people will follow your niche site example and stop there, without testing other methods, but that's their fault.
        Yea, it's a constant learning process. If you stop learning then you'll get left behind.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshpat2
    long as we raking it in ... when google hits us we will recoop and come back stronger. as lot of ppl did. who knos weather it will work in a year. but what i do know is that i can make moey untill that time. no risk no money like mosa said. plus if u divesify income methods sites and link building.. your business will stand the test.
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by joshpat2 View Post

      long as we raking it in ... when google hits us we will recoop and come back stronger. as lot of ppl did. who knos weather it will work in a year. but what i do know is that i can make moey untill that time. no risk no money like mosa said. plus if u divesify income methods sites and link building.. your business will stand the test.
      To each his own. Good luck to those who choose to build sites this way, I really do wish you guys all the success in the world,seriously, not being sarcastic.
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  • Profile picture of the author joshpat2
    thanks can you share some of your ways of link building ?
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    • Profile picture of the author nest28
      Originally Posted by joshpat2 View Post

      thanks can you share some of your ways of link building ?
      I copied off Mosa, lol.

      Edit: I'm experimenting with a few things now, to early to tell what works, I want to show case studies with actual urls so everybody can see, but can't do that without exposing certain SEO providers private networks.

      I might even go back to my old long tail methods, I see no reason why it wouldn't work.
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