Any views on BAD things that can happen using Google analytics on Secondary sites?

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Hi,

I have taken the advice from almost everyone in here, on creating secondary sites to my money sites in the sigs below.

My question is about the more obvious trace-ability of these sites and if its worthwhile NOT using google analytics in just ONE account for all the secondary sites.

MAIN ISSUES: I have all my secondary sites on one hosting plan, which means that google will see them all coming from one IP address. Yes I do this to save money, as a dog walker needs to do.

I thought for a while that I should not use Google analytics for my secondary sites (all under one GA account, but different from my money sites GA account) because it would 'give the game away' to google that they were secondary sites (even if they have good content, which they do) and so Google would down-rate the link power coming from them to my main sites.

But since I can only afford having these sites on one host, and am probably already giving the game away, DOES IT MATTER, If i let google track the secondary sites more closely, by having them on one GA account OR ANY GA account at all (not the same as my money site GA accounts)?

Just wondering on your views, such as have you found that Google has a threshold of say, allowing 10 secondary site on one IP, and all in one GA account before the down-rate any power? Yes its all speculative, but if I can save time in learning another free analytics software, then I will just get a new gmail account and put the secondary sites onto that GA associated account.

Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
    I am very surprised that there are no answers to this question, as I am sure that most people here have secondary sites, and use google analytics one way or another.

    If there is any real world advice or recommendations, I would really really appreciate it!
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  • Profile picture of the author jerrywhyte
    Well all of my websites are hosted on one account with hostgator and they are doing well all these multiple domain(website) being hosted on different IP myth is really turning into something else in SEO community
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    • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
      Originally Posted by jerrywhyte View Post

      Well all of my websites are hosted on one account with hostgator and they are doing well all these multiple domain(website) being hosted on different IP myth is really turning into something else in SEO community
      It's not a myth if you are using the secondary sites just for backlinks to boost your main site. They are far more powerful if those links come from different IP's.

      Also, if all you are using those sites for is a link network, Google doesn't take kindly to that. Having them on the same IP increases the chance of seeing them deindexed.

      So no, it's not a myth if you are building a link network.

      To the OP, if you are using these sites just for the links, then you don't need GA or any analytics on them really. You are not getting traffic to these sites. They are just to boost your main site.

      If you are tracking the analytics, I wouldn't put them under the same account. It does ties them all together, and if Google decides they don't like something you are doing on one of them, they might decide to tie them all together and deindex the whole lot of them. Shoot first, ask questions later.
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      • Profile picture of the author Bruce99
        Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

        It's not a myth if you are using the secondary sites just for backlinks to boost your main site. They are far more powerful if those links come from different IP's.

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        If you are tracking the analytics, I wouldn't put them under the same account. It does ties them all together, and if Google decides they don't like something you are doing on one of them, they might decide to tie them all together and deindex the whole lot of them. Shoot first, ask questions later.
        So you are pretty correct. Like most IM's just having one good site and relying on the generosity of others (incoming links you dont control) is dangerous. Pushing auto links to your money site is also dangerous, so the secondary sites are a buffer. They all have good Original content, but I am looking at them passing the power on.

        I was kind of suspecting that having them all together in one GA account was probably not a good idea, more about laziness I guess. But yes I do want to track their analytic s, as otherwise how do you easily tell how they are performing after you do a link campaign? So looks like I am going to have to visit another analytic s site ...

        Thanks!
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        • Profile picture of the author MikeFriedman
          Originally Posted by Bruce99 View Post

          But yes I do want to track their analytic s, as otherwise how do you easily tell how they are performing after you do a link campaign? So looks like I am going to have to visit another analytic s site ...

          Thanks!

          If you are using them just for the links, there is no need for analytics. You are just trying to boost your main site in the rankings. You are not trying to get traffic to those sites. You can track the analytics, but that is a huge waste of time.
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          • Profile picture of the author Chucky
            Originally Posted by MikeFriedman View Post

            If you are using them just for the links, there is no need for analytics. You are just trying to boost your main site in the rankings. You are not trying to get traffic to those sites. You can track the analytics, but that is a huge waste of time.
            Absolutely!

            Or use 3rd party tracker like http://piwik.org/docs/javascript-tracking/
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    There's really no way around it. You have to spend the extra money and be stealthier. That means:

    Private Whois
    Separate Hosts and IP Ranges
    No commonalities like Google Analytics or GWT

    You can use Piwik for stat tracking and keep Google out of it. Right now you're getting NO BENEFIT from the those secondary sites (or a small one).
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  • Profile picture of the author GeoFan
    There are services who will install Google Analytics on many hundreds of sites and monitor them all, so I don't think Google cares if the same Analytics user is monitoring many sites.

    One webmaster can create websites for hundreds of clients, so the same goes for GWT.

    However, any Analytics tool may leave a signature that could be factored into a footprint.

    There would have to be a controlled experiment to chew on all the variables and decide what's what, and that could change at any time...

    I would not worry too much, but it would be far better to use a variety of IP addresses and hosts.

    Get a few WEB 2.0 sites to add to your blog network inventory.

    Get a free account with sites like Squidoo, livejournal, weebly, etc. and create a few more feeder blogs in your private network. Link diversity is the key to naturalness.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chucky
    One more thing I forgot to add.

    I use http://www.warriorforum.com/warrior-...ed-rising.html a lot and Isac, the SEO service provider sent an email to his subscribers asking not to have GA on sites. He saw that sites with GA got hit harder with Pandas and Penguins etc. It is popular belief that Google can track everything about your site, including the grey hat link building we all do, when you have GA installed on your site.

    I'm quoting Isac here because he gets to see a lot of sites --> a lot more stats than I'll ever see with my own sites. Whether he is correct or not, I don't know. But I do know that he is not the only one with that point of view.

    But if you're a 100% white hat operation, GA may not hurt you. But it doesn't make sense to have it on your tier 2 sites!
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