by MaryPabelate Banned
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I have stopped SEO following the latest update, my all sites disappeared from SERP....... I don't have any idea about what to do and what not to do..


Please help....
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  • Profile picture of the author Warock
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    SEO keep changing.... Its hard to keep up with SEO changes. It good to stop ...
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    • Profile picture of the author ilee
      Originally Posted by Warock View Post

      SEO keep changing.... Its hard to keep up with SEO changes. It good to stop ...
      Amazing advice Warock, you are an absolute inspiration.

      To OP, you could take a long hard look at one of your sites and see how user friendly it is, whether the articles read really easily, and also double check your backlink profile to see whats going on back there.
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      • Profile picture of the author shayman
        Originally Posted by ichl13 View Post


        To OP, you could take a long hard look at one of your sites and see how user friendly it is, whether the articles read really easily,
        This has nothing to do with whether Google bombs your website.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Mary, did you implement any sites from the thread I started? Authority amazon sites?
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    Didn't you just the other day advise people to start working on authority sites? Perhaps taking that advice might be in order.
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  • Profile picture of the author supertintin1
    Originally Posted by MaryPabelate View Post

    I have stopped SEO following the latest update, my all sites disappeared fry SERP....... I don't have any idea about what to do and what not to do..


    Please help....
    Are your domains EMD ? May be they got hit by penguin update !
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    • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
      Originally Posted by supertintin1 View Post

      Are your domains EMD ? May be they got hit by penguin update !
      I am fairly certain the 2 recent updates were Panda and EMD
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  • Profile picture of the author Becker13
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    I HAVE STOPPED CARING THAT YOU STOPPED SEO
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  • Profile picture of the author SlfMastery
    Mary:

    Not sure if you saw it but Matt Cutts Tweeted Google is making a small algo change that will hammer LOW quality exact match domains.

    EMD will rank well (I would only assume) if they are:

    • Authority type sites.
    • Sites with regularly updated content.
    • Sites with a lot of user engagement
    • Sites with quality, well written content
    • Sites with a solid content base
    • Sites with AGE
    • Sites with Google Authorship in place
    • Sites with Social Credibility
    It's no secrect what Google wants. These take time to manifest.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by SlfMastery View Post

      Mary:

      Not sure if you saw it but Matt Cutts Tweeted Google is making a small algo change that will hammer LOW quality exact match domains.

      EMD will rank well (I would only assume) if they are:

      • Authority type sites.
      • Sites with regularly updated content.
      • Sites with a lot of user engagement
      • Sites with quality, well written content
      • Sites with a solid content base
      • Sites with AGE
      • Sites with Google Authorship in place
      • Sites with Social Credibility
      It's no secrect what Google wants. These take time to manifest.
      Funny enough I still see EMD sites ranking with

      - not any kind of authority
      - never updated content
      - zero user engagement
      - only 2 pages of content
      - age of less then 1 year
      - no Google Authorship
      - zero social credibility

      So long for your list.

      Now the positive parts of that site:

      - 100% grammar/spelling error free content
      - zero affiliate links

      See people that's it, just make sure your content is okay and make sure you don't use an excessive amount of affiliate links. It's all not that hard, just make sure you properly check your $5 article before posting it on your site and preferably don't use affiliate links at your homepage but instead on inner pages and not more then 2-3 of them per page unless you are some price comparison site.

      Don't believe me? Look at all those local business owners with their 4 page static sites that have zero of that whole list. They are all just ranking fine same like they always did.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Haven
    Originally Posted by MaryPabelate View Post

    I have stopped SEO following the latest update, my all sites disappeared from SERP....... I don't have any idea about what to do and what not to do..


    Please help....
    I've seen some good advice on the forum here that's worth following. There are a million EMD threads already.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nelapsi
    It is so baffling why people run to the hills when in truth all of these updates just seem to make ranking sites so much easier. Before all this if I wrote some content I would hit pages 5-10, now when I write content I hit pages 2-3 (rarely but sometimes on the edge of page 1). I don't have to do anything tricky anymore, 20 minutes of research, 15 minutes of writing and 10 minutes of basic links in key places. Rinse and Repeat. It takes me longer to find an image I like some times then the whole process.
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    • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
      Originally Posted by Nelapsi View Post

      It is so baffling why people run to the hills when in truth all of these updates just seem to make ranking sites so much easier. Before all this if I wrote some content I would hit pages 5-10, now when I write content I hit pages 2-3 (rarely but sometimes on the edge of page 1). I don't have to do anything tricky anymore, 20 minutes of research, 15 minutes of writing and 10 minutes of basic links in key places. Rinse and Repeat. It takes me longer to find an image I like some times then the whole process.
      One of my site have been hammered by EMD update. Please share what you are doing differently to do so well.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Glad I never got a C in English >.<.
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  • Profile picture of the author IM Ash
    You are offering real services which gives you an alternative option.... PPC

    Learn all you can about PPC (target only exact/phrase kws)! Get your hands on an Adwords coupon and test to see what results you achieve. Fine-tune your PPC strategy and you may be surprised at the results. Use Adwords and MS adcenter!
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  • Profile picture of the author GobBluthJD
    Quitting isn't the answer. Retool, revamp, and redesign.
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    • Profile picture of the author Carl Brown
      So many useful answers for someone asking for a little help (sarcastica font)
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  • Profile picture of the author fghaegele
    If your sites disappeared from the Google index, then it's probably because it had content I wouldn't want showing up in my search results. Duplicate content. Reposts. Rewritten reposts. Spam.

    My advice: slow down and write, write, write.

    Forget the algorithms. Write for people. Humans- not robots.

    In my experience, my articles have never tanked because I actually sit down and write my own articles. One good article a day. That's it. Hey- it's only one , but it stays ranked for years. YEARS. And the keyword density of targeted KW? Less than 2 percent. Believe me-it's worth every second of effort.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    My advice is to grow a pair!
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  • Profile picture of the author markwilson4074
    google ranking works on an algorithm. If you deviate from those laid down (hidden) rules you'll get penalized for sure.

    Find alternatives for traffic and don't put eggs in one basket.
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    • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
      Originally Posted by markwilson4074 View Post

      google ranking works on an algorithm. If you deviate from those laid down (hidden) rules you'll get penalized for sure.

      Find alternatives for traffic and don't put eggs in one basket.
      Unfortunately most of us don't have this choice. 95% of our traffic comes from Google.
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      • Profile picture of the author yukon
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        Originally Posted by jfambrini View Post

        Unfortunately most of us don't have this choice. 95% of our traffic comes from Google.

        You created your own problem (95% organic SERP traffic).

        If your site/s are good, alternative traffic is available in just about every niche.
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        • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
          Originally Posted by yukon View Post

          You created your own problem (95% organic SERP traffic).

          If your site/s are good, alternative traffic is available in just about every niche.
          For real. We need to get real here. Dude is selling TOYOTAs and relies on organic search only.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paul Gram
    Mary, stopping SEO isn't a bad idea, at least the type of SEO most people do.

    Instead of doing things the old way, I'd recommend working on building your brand and really focusing hard on optimizing your onpage stuff while still getting some creative and very high quality backlinks as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Originally Posted by MaryPabelate View Post

    I have stopped SEO following the latest update, my all sites disappeared from SERP....... I don't have any idea about what to do and what not to do..


    Please help....
    And guess what, since the Panda/Penguin, the so called gurus stopped giving advice or posting what work and work doesn't. Everybody has gone underground and left for those who know what to rule over the non informed.

    The last update also saw a lot of Non EDM site going off the radar.

    Here is some little tips for you and those that wish to know what Google wants and find in SEO today:

    1. Quality content
    2. Quality Site
    3. Quality Links

    Type a few EDM keywords that you know and see, you will find lots of sites still ranking for their respective EDM name.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by johnben1444 View Post

      And guess what, since the Panda/Penguin, the so called gurus stopped giving advice or posting what work and work doesn't. Everybody has gone underground and left for those who know what to rule over the non informed.

      The last update also saw a lot of Non EDM site going off the radar.

      Here is some little tips for you and those that wish to know what Google wants and find in SEO today:

      1. Quality content
      2. Quality Site
      3. Quality Links

      Type a few EDM keywords that you know and see, you will find lots of sites still ranking for their respective EDM name.
      Type "Florida Palm Trees" into Google. Check out the EMD with dashes in the two hole. Not exactly the most quality content, site, or links yet it still ranks.

      Don't be so quick to accept this quality fairy tale. Sure, it's a good idea to strive for quality but that is NOT what Google is basing its rankings on.
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  • Profile picture of the author TyreeSEO
    Learn from your mistakes and LOVE your mistakes!
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  • Profile picture of the author Geekgirl01
    So your throwing in the towel?

    Good job you are quiting because no doubt there would be plenty more knock downs with SEO and you have to learn to take it, move on from it and learn from it
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  • Profile picture of the author luckyman2k
    Originally Posted by MaryPabelate View Post

    I have stopped SEO following the latest update, my all sites disappeared from SERP....... I don't have any idea about what to do and what not to do..


    Please help....
    hello Mary

    humm, "I have stopped SEO following the latest update, my all sites disappeared from SERP....... I don't have any idea about what to do and what not to do.."

    I can guess ! Infact any one guess, that years of efforts and income spoiled IN no time.

    But.... Honestly, ask your self, why your sites are disappeared.
    Give answer to your self, not to any one.

    Google is keep updating, for Quality results. Thin sites will not going to rank.

    EMD's are working, even now. But they should have some thing for the real users.

    I confirm, thats non of our sites were hit by new google updates. ( there is serious decline in traffic, but from Tuesday, sites are getting back to Normal)

    My advice, quality sites are working very well. Make quality sites for users.

    I hope it helps

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Warock
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    Home Remedies for Acne Scars

    This webpage is optimized for the keyword "home remedies for acne scars" and not even shown up in the top 1000 of google SERP. SEO is so hard.
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    • Profile picture of the author luckyman2k
      Originally Posted by Warock View Post

      Home Remedies for Acne Scars

      This webpage is optimized for the keyword "home remedies for acne scars" and not even shown up in the top 1000 of google SERP. SEO is so hard.
      hello

      "SEO is so hard."

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      Home Remedies for Acne Scars

      This webpage is optimized for the keyword "home remedies for acne scars" and not even shown up in the top 1000 of google SERP. SEO is so
      hard.
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      Not Agree with u at all.... Let us analysis your site.

      if i m not making mistake...u want to rank for these kws

      Home Remedies for Acne Scars
      Best Acne Treatment

      and u created these pages.... and do on page seo...

      Best Acne Treatment
      Home Remedies for Acne Scars

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      Now lets check your first kw, on Google... firefox + seoquake

      ==>>Best Acne Treatment

      1. WebMD - Better information. Better health. pr 3 and number of index pages.
      2.Skin Care, Hair Care, and Hygiene Tips - Daily Glow pr4
      10-www.clearpores.com/ pr 4

      In short, u are fighting with high authorities sites like webmd, with your 3 page site.

      Of course you can rank for these kw's but it take time.

      For example.. if u want to rank for these kw.... "Best Acne Treatment"

      u should research several kw's on Acne Treatment

      ====>>Acne Treatment

      ==>natural acne treatment
      ==>homemade acne treatment
      ==>body acne treatment
      ==>herbal acne treatment
      ==>cystic acne treatment
      ==>hormonal acne treatment
      ==>blue light acne treatment

      And put some content on it, ( videos, images and articles)

      Your site will become an authority site on Acne Treatment. Just keep update the content.

      And you will rank very long period of time.

      I hope it helps

      Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author Berkinb
    What most of us were taught and used to do was to spend 1% of our time on our websites (writing or outsourcing 3-5 articles that are mediocre at best) and 99% of our times chasing links, using automated tools, spinning articles, etc.

    The only thing I have learned from my few years in IM is that we need to balance the scales. We need to spend 90%+ of our time on our sites, creating quality content (but not for Google as their "we're looking for quality content" crap is... well, crap), helping our users, etc.

    And then spend some time off-page to get links.

    SEO is not dead and I don't think it ever will (as long as people are searching for stuff using the engines), it's just that we all were taught to worship SEO and never think about what we were offering to our visitors.
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  • Profile picture of the author williams22
    Originally Posted by MaryPabelate View Post

    I have stopped SEO following the latest update, my all sites disappeared from SERP....... I don't have any idea about what to do and what not to do..


    Please help....
    SEO keeps on changing even though we should not stop it. Using SEO we can promote our websites!!
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  • Profile picture of the author TomerN
    SEO just changed. My sites are still ranked highly in the search engines...

    I am 100% whitehat though. No SENuke blasts, no over optimization, no tools. They don't work anymore, sorry to say. Just gimmicks...

    Google likes quality sites. If you have quality sites, you will be ranked high in Google...
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