SEO After Pand / Penguin *I NEED REAL HELP*

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Hey everyone,

So after the google Panda / Penguin updates my sites didn't really drop a lot but now any link building or seo stuff I do does nothing at all. So I am curious what my next step is.

I was reading this one guys blog not too long ago who was featured on Problogger and he has a linking system called Buffer sites (same thing as a Tier or Pyramid setup only none of the sites link together at all).

I am curious if you think this will work.

Now that guy is primarily more Black Hat and suggests using Fiverr Gigs to link to your buffer sites which in turn are linking to your main urls which kinda filters out the bad quality and just lets the good juice get pushed through.

Has anyone else had much ranking success with this?

Thank you, I need real help here for an honest business owner.
#pand #penguin #real #seo
  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

    Hey everyone,

    So after the google Panda / Penguin updates my sites didn't really drop a lot but now any link building or seo stuff I do does nothing at all. So I am curious what my next step is.

    I was reading this one guys blog not too long ago who was featured on Problogger and he has a linking system called Buffer sites (same thing as a Tier or Pyramid setup only none of the sites link together at all).

    I am curious if you think this will work.

    Now that guy is primarily more Black Hat and suggests using Fiverr Gigs to link to your buffer sites which in turn are linking to your main urls which kinda filters out the bad quality and just lets the good juice get pushed through.

    Has anyone else had much ranking success with this?

    Thank you, I need real help here for an honest business owner.
    A lot of people use this strategy. You build content on Web 2.0s and then link to your 'money site' from there. Then you build links to the Web 2.0 with crappy backlinks. The Web 2.0 serves as a 'buffer.'
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  • Profile picture of the author ldiaz117
    Add me on skype. Stay away from anything blackhat nowadays. You need good content and legit link building
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  • Profile picture of the author dlundy1
    Don't Waste Your Time With Such "Black Hat" Tactics. They are Virtually worthLess. Now There is Nothing wrong with Building Links to Your Site but Links alone are not enough to convince Google that Your Page is worth Ranking well..

    Yes they are a Part Of the Equation Though. But In Google's On WORDS.... "Content is KING", The More Content Rich Your Sites are the More Google Will Love them. Be Sure to Sprinkle Your Targeted Keywords in quite enough times to make Google Believe that they are a Relevant Part to that Page.

    But Don't Gamble with Your Site Just To Try to get a "Quick Fix"... these companies want you to spend money while they try to trick Google For You, But it will only be Temporary.

    if Google Bands Your Site Because You paid a company $150 to Optimize it and they Just Simply Tried to cheat.... who's fault is it? (Yours)

    Plus Google Punishes The Sites that try to "Beat the System", So don't sacrifice Your overall well standing just for 2months Of Good Traffic. You want a Lifetime Of Sustaining Traffic.

    PS: Google has stated that They Reserve the Right to Drop any Site From their Index COMPLETELY if They See Fit.

    PSS: better SAFE than SORRY.
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    • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
      Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

      A lot of people use this strategy. You build content on Web 2.0s and then link to your 'money site' from there. Then you build links to the Web 2.0 with crappy backlinks. The Web 2.0 serves as a 'buffer.'
      So are you saying it does work or doesn't? And how safe do you think it really is? I have more money then time to invest in seo honestly and its not about ranking quickly I just want to rank again.

      Originally Posted by ldiaz117 View Post

      Add me on skype. Stay away from anything blackhat nowadays. You need good content and legit link building
      I do not have skype my friend. I'm sorry.

      Originally Posted by dlundy1 View Post

      Don't Waste Your Time With Such "Black Hat" Tactics. They are Virtually worthLess. Now There is Nothing wrong with Building Links to Your Site but Links alone are not enough to convince Google that Your Page is worth Ranking well..

      Yes they are a Part Of the Equation Though. But In Google's On WORDS.... "Content is KING", The More Content Rich Your Sites are the More Google Will Love them. Be Sure to Sprinkle Your Targeted Keywords in quite enough times to make Google Believe that they are a Relevant Part to that Page.

      But Don't Gamble with Your Site Just To Try to get a "Quick Fix"... these companies want you to spend money while they try to trick Google For You, But it will only be Temporary.

      if Google Bands Your Site Because You paid a company $150 to Optimize it and they Just Simply Tried to cheat.... who's fault is it? (Yours)

      Plus Google Punishes The Sites that try to "Beat the System", So don't sacrifice Your overall well standing just for 2months Of Good Traffic. You want a Lifetime Of Sustaining Traffic.

      PS: Google has stated that They Reserve the Right to Drop any Site From their Index COMPLETELY if They See Fit.

      PSS: better SAFE than SORRY.
      How unsafe is a buffer linking system? I mean. That guy says hes been doing it for years and never has any of his sites been hit. I am curious how my MONEY SITE could get hit when the site linking to it could very well be competition and GOOGLE has no way of knowing that...
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  • Profile picture of the author seosorcerer
    On Fiverr Gigs you can buy blog posts on the authors site, which you can use to directly link back to your primary. It's a rather expensive way to build links however & finding the right Fiverr to post for you can take time. But finding the right site/blog is hard to build even 50 high quality links.

    I also provide the full content to the Fiverr, and make a new article for each one to post so I have unique inbound linking content.
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    Since Panda/Penguin struck, getting tons of spammy links daily isn't the key anymore.

    Rather focus on quality content and links from authority sites..
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  • Yes google penguin and panda have put a hold on thousands of businesses. No doubt over the following months more black hat services will come out. But quality content and real links are the main thing. Social interaction is the key.

    Google are putting more and more focus on social interaction more so than specifically link building.

    We have tons of clients that have all been effected by google panda and penguin and they keep growing. good for us. "keep going google" you are making our business grow. LOL
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  • Profile picture of the author cameronf
    how do you get your domain fixed after all this time? removing links actually drop your ranking but over optimistation has kicked me !
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