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Help! New Penguin Update Buried My Website

by Nikster
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"At first I was afraid, I was petrified.
Kept thinking I could never live without my weeeb-ssiitee.
But then I spent so many nights thinking how Google did me wrong.
And I grew strong.
And I learned how to get a long..."

Gloria Gaynor FTWarriors!

On a more serious note, I would like some advice from some of the more experienced warriors around here. As the title says, the new Penguin Update that came out a couple of days ago completely buried my relatively new e-commerce website. Now, I don't know if I should register a new domain and try and rank the same keywords or try to revive this one. Here are the facts of the case:
The name of my online store is Furniture Canada. This also happens to be my main keyword (shocking I know). My domain name is furniture-canada dot ca. The one w/o a hyphen was taken so I used this one. There has been some debate over Google's discrimination policies regarding hyphenated domains, but I thought it shouldn't make a difference. This is my store's name after all, I'm sure Google wouldn't punish Canadian Tire of Future Shop if they put a hyphen in their domain names.
So far so good. I have manually written content on my website, including 600 or so word article for my front page, using my main keyword. Long story short, it took me 4 weeks to get to page 1.. and i ranked in top 4 for about 2 months. In the mean time, I started picking up all kinds of page one rankings for different keywords "cheap furniture", "online furniture store canada" etc...Up until Penguin, I had about 60-80 keywords on first page. The morning of October 6th 2012 I had 0. My main keyword was pushed to page 20.. now upgraded to page 4. The rest of the keywords are not even in top 200 as of right now.
The website has existed for about 4 months. In the meantime I have kept my blog and twitter accounts active. I have about 900 backlinks (260 unique domain names). I admit, I am new to SEO and I most likely got punished for garbage/spamming cheap backlinks. But even so, I have used no more than 8-10 keywords in anchor text. Why did I drop out of first page for just about everything?
What should I do now? Drop the domain name, register and rank a new one? Try and recover the domain name, delete as many backlinks as I can?
If you have managed to read my whining, I thank you :-) If you choose to leave a comment/advice, I thank you once again.
#buried #penguin #update #website
  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    You only have backlinks from 128 domains. That's quite a low number. I also feel like you've really overdone the onpage for "Furniture Canada." We GET IT. You're FURNITURE CANADA I suggest building more links (even straight URL links, blog comments etc) that don't contain the words Canada or Furniture and see if you start to recover.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nikster
    Over used Furniture Canada? That's possible. According to webmasters I have 984 backlinks from 260 domains. If not for garbage backlinks, why would Google punish so many of my keywords?
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by Nikster View Post

      Over used Furniture Canada? That's possible. According to webmasters I have 984 backlinks from 260 domains. If not for garbage backlinks, why would Google punish so many of my keywords?
      Your backlink profile is weak. Could be as simple as the EMD boost being removed. Let's face it, your backlinks are from:

      1) Spam comments.
      2) Spam bookmarks
      3) Spam press releases.

      You know what kinds of links you don't have?

      1) Social mentions
      2) Local citations
      3) Reviews from existing customers
      4) Links from blogs
      5) Links from authoritative websites

      I could go on but you get the idea. There really is no reason your site should be ranking other than your EMD and your backlinking tricks. I wouldn't consider this a punishment, but rather a 'right sizing' of your rank.

      If you want to get more traffic from Google you'll need to add to the variety of backlinks immensely.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Wow you sell real furniture and you don't even have a return address on your site. Then you have a stupid domain name.

        No wonder Google tanks it
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        • Profile picture of the author Nikster
          Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

          Wow you sell real furniture and you don't even have a return address on your site. Then you have a stupid domain name.

          No wonder Google tanks it
          Thank you for this constructive reply. Wow there is furniture that's not real? Fake perhaps or imaginative? Return address is my driveway, maybe I should put it and stack up furniture there instead of returning it to the manufacturer's warehouse. THEN I have a stupid domain name which is the name of my store .ca (because I only sell in Canada). What was I thinking? I am confident that 14 years ago (given you were around) you PMed Larry Page and told him google is a stupid name and perhaps he should go for doodle or poodle. More organic conversions, right?

          Why did you comment again?
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by Nikster View Post

            Why did you comment again?
            I just couldn't leave it


            ps: most people here make Adsense sites about furniture, so that's not really selling furniture is it.

            ps2: I would never order from a company that doesn't show their address or at least a return address, but that's just me

            ps3: you can sell furniture in canada, doesn't take away that the name sounds incredibly stupid
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            • Profile picture of the author Nikster
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              I just couldn't leave it


              ps: most people here make Adsense sites about furniture, so that's not really selling furniture is it.

              ps2: I would never order from a company that doesn't show their address or at least a return address, but that's just me

              ps3: you can sell furniture in canada, doesn't take away that the name sounds incredibly stupid
              ps Yes it is, as long as they make profit. Selling is basically the exchange of tangible or intangible items of value. Unless, you've got a different definition of selling, one that is less stupid perhaps. One that will redefine economic and financial institutions forever

              ps2 It is just you. My conversion rates were awesome, otherwise I wouldn't be whining here...not to mention that there is an address.. and a link to yellow pages and so on and so forth.

              ps3 Right on nik0. Very creative, was nik1 taken?
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by Nikster View Post

                ps2 It is just you. My conversion rates were awesome, otherwise I wouldn't be whining here...not to mention that there is an address.. and a link to yellow pages and so on and so forth.
                Okay odd, but good for you of course, I used to sell real terrible when my web shop was missing an address (or in your case hard to find).

                Originally Posted by Nikster View Post

                ps3 Right on nik0. Very creative, was nik1 taken?
                I don't know, let me ask you, was Nikplanet taken?

                Actually Nik0 has a meaning, Nik = short for Nickname, 0 = zero, so zero nickname, so actually I have no nickname cause I didn't know what to chose.
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  • Profile picture of the author rightseosteps
    You're better off mixing your links around. Having links pointing to sub pages of your site, and ranking more keywords rather then just 1. Also don;t bother much with blog comments that usually doesn't help in most cases and you need to be good at it. If you don;t want to waste time just focus on other keywords this way you don't get slapped. More content links you got the better. Remember quality links are more important, and what i mean is if you have a guest post on a high pr site relevant to yours, all you have to do is rank the page you posted the article at for more authority rankings instead of spamming the keyword linked to multiple sites.
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    • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
      Originally Posted by rightseosteps View Post

      You're better off mixing your links around. Having links pointing to sub pages of your site, and ranking more keywords rather then just 1. Also don;t bother much with blog comments that usually doesn't help in most cases and you need to be good at it. If you don;t want to waste time just focus on other keywords this way you don't get slapped. More content links you got the better. Remember quality links are more important, and what i mean is if you have a guest post on a high pr site relevant to yours, all you have to do is rank the page you posted the article at for more authority rankings instead of spamming the keyword linked to multiple sites.
      Definitely. He should have used the 'tiered link building approach.' It's not too late yet either. This domain just needs some real links. I'd get some HIGH PR directory listings at least.
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  • Profile picture of the author Nikster
    I didn't do the link building myself. I had an SEO firm do it for me, and this is where they got me. They promised a variety of links, low PR, high PR...no follow do follow...blog posts, forum accounts etc... I guess at the end of the day they only delivered garbage backlinks. So, how can I find a SEO firm that I can trust? I was given weekly reports and all. I verified the links were up there, checked some PR on the websites etc. If you guys can recommend a trusted SEO warrior that can get me out of this it would be awesome.
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    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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      Originally Posted by Nikster View Post

      I didn't do the link building myself. I had an SEO firm do it for me, and this is where they got me. They promised a variety of links, low PR, high PR...no follow do follow...blog posts, forum accounts etc... I guess at the end of the day they only delivered garbage backlinks. So, how can I find a SEO firm that I can trust? I was given weekly reports and all. I verified the links were up there, checked some PR on the websites etc. If you guys can recommend a trusted SEO warrior that can get me out of this it would be awesome.
      PerformanceMan already provided you the answer or in other words avoid any SEO that builds the type of links that got you tanked. So if they have any of these in their service then avoid them like the plague:

      - wiki links
      - social bookmark blasts
      - forum profile links
      - article directory links (few are not bad, but most sites are total crap)
      - blog comments (all those edu links that you have)
      - nofollow crap (you do NOT need that)

      In other words that means that you should avoid 99% of the link sellers at this forum.

      Btw, often it's easier to move your site to a new domain instead of trying to revive it from the dead. That way you also get rid of your ugly domain name so it's a win win
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      • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        PerformanceMan already provided you the answer or in other words avoid any SEO that builds the type of links that got you tanked. So if they have any of these in their service then avoid them like the plague:

        - wiki links
        - social bookmark blasts
        - forum profile links
        - article directory links (few are not bad, but most sites are total crap)
        - blog comments (all those edu links that you have)
        - nofollow crap (you do NOT need that)

        In other words that means that you should avoid 99% of the link sellers at this forum.

        Btw, often it's easier to move your site to a new domain instead of trying to revive it from the dead. That way you also get rid of your ugly domain name so it's a win win
        Lol thats so wrong. You need nofollow links to balance out your link portfolio. Think it looks good when your 100% dofollow links? Nope.

        Blog comments arent bad either. If there relevant to your niche that is.

        Social bookmarking links are great. It gives you social exposure which websites need, now more then ever.

        Wiki links/Article directories are fine if its on your tier 2 or tier 3 links.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

          Lol thats so wrong. You need nofollow links to balance out your link portfolio. Think it looks good when your 100% dofollow links? Nope.

          Blog comments arent bad either. If there relevant to your niche that is.

          Social bookmarking links are great. It gives you social exposure which websites need, now more then ever.

          Wiki links/Article directories are fine if its on your tier 2 or tier 3 links.
          Yeah everyone that sells spam would say that.

          Yo see Nikster? These are the people you need to avoid, they will always try to give it a turn to justify their spam. You know what's the thing, oh it's worse spam, well let's move it to tier2/3, next year they will say, yeah it's all good but you should use it in tier3/4, and that's how they move up each time when there is a new update.

          Better get it right from the start.

          Bookmarks are not great links and will never make great links, simply cause even the largest sites get spammed so heavily that your link will end up on page zero within a day. The only time that bookmarks can be good is if you can get real people to vote it up, so it stays visible for a longer amount of time, but that's not what people do over here, instead they use some tool like BMD and spam a spinned description.

          But that's not what Henry will tell you, he just says, bookmarks are great and before you know it you end up buying 500 bookmarks at Fiverr or anywhere else.

          Blog comments aren't terrible at niche relevant websites but even then they have extreme low value as Google doesn't like these type of links.
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          • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Yeah everyone that sells spam would say that.

            Yo see Nikster? These are the people you need to avoid, they will always try to give it a turn to justify their spam.
            yeah listen to nik0. Everything that can be beneficial to your website is spam. Makes total sense. Lol funny how these kids think they know SEO.
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

              yeah listen to nik0. Everything that can be beneficial to your website is spam. Makes total sense. Lol funny how these kids think they know SEO.
              Dude, look at what you sell:

              50 Directory Submissions
              25 Social Bookmarking Backlinks
              2 SEO Article Creations
              5 Article Submissions
              5 Manual Forum Posts
              5 Web 2.0 Backlinks
              5 Relevant High PR Blog Commenting
              5 Press Release Distribution
              ON-Page SEO Recommendations

              I mean seriously and that for $100? LOOOOOOOOL, I could offer that for $50 and still make a GOOD profit.

              Yeah listen to Henry, he knows what he's doing :rolleyes:
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              • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                PerformanceMan already provided you the answer or in other words avoid any SEO that builds the type of links that got you tanked. So if they have any of these in their service then avoid them like the plague:

                - wiki links
                - social bookmark blasts
                - forum profile links
                - article directory links (few are not bad, but most sites are total crap)
                - blog comments (all those edu links that you have)
                - nofollow crap (you do NOT need that)

                In other words that means that you should avoid 99% of the link sellers at this forum.

                Btw, often it's easier to move your site to a new domain instead of trying to revive it from the dead. That way you also get rid of your ugly domain name so it's a win win
                Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                Dude, look at what you sell:

                50 Directory Submissions
                25 Social Bookmarking Backlinks
                2 SEO Article Creations
                5 Article Submissions
                5 Manual Forum Posts
                5 Web 2.0 Backlinks
                5 Relevant High PR Blog Commenting
                5 Press Release Distribution
                ON-Page SEO Recommendations

                I mean seriously and that for $100? LOOOOOOOOL, I could offer that for $50 and still make a GOOD profit.

                Yeah listen to Henry, he knows what he's doing :rolleyes:
                Make good profit? So you would outsource the link building?? LOOOOLL

                So your SEO incompetent and lazy. Great mix
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                • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                  Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

                  Make good profit? So you would outsource the link building?? LOOOOLL

                  So your SEO incompetent and lazy. Great mix
                  Lol, you must love to make fun of yourself!

                  I feel very sorry for the people that spend money with you cause this are exactly the same links that got the OP penalized.

                  You sure have guts to promote your sig link in his thread.

                  Outsourcing = letting my employee's take care of it? Yeah I guess that makes me lazy :rolleyes:

                  Don't get me wrong, I do understand that with 1 order every couple of weeks you can build all links by yourself, especially those 1000 bookmarks in your $2500 package I always though there are only a dozen of quality bookmark sites, could be wrong though. :rolleyes:

                  Oh well, we all know there isn't a single person on this planet that would spend such money for such links.
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                  • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
                    Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                    Lol, you must love to make fun of yourself!

                    I feel very sorry for the people that spend money with you cause this are exactly the same links that got the OP penalized.

                    You sure have guts to promote your sig link in his thread.
                    Your so laughable. Thanks for making my day

                    OP didn't mention exactly what links penalized him. Its the "SEO firms" fault for not building them correctly. Probably blasted them to his money site. If they were at least semi seo competent they would have created up to 3 tiers of links.

                    But i can't take you serious as SEO goes. Anyone who says that you should stay away from nofollow links is crazy. Its proven that its best to have some nofollow for diversity. And you say blog commenting is SPAM. Social bookmarking SPAM. Yadda Yadda. What your really saying is "Hey! All these link providers on warriors sell CRAP! So buy my links instead!" LOL

                    Anyways im done with this thread and reading this clowns posts.
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                    • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                      Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

                      Your so laughable. Thanks for making my day

                      OP didn't mention exactly what links penalized him. Its the "SEO firms" fault for not building them correctly. Probably blasted them to his money site. If they were at least semi seo competent they would have created up to 3 tiers of links.

                      But i can't take you serious as SEO goes. Anyone who says that you should stay away from nofollow links is crazy. Its proven that its best to have some nofollow for diversity. And you say blog commenting is SPAM. Social bookmarking SPAM. Yadda Yadda. What your really saying is "Hey! All these link providers on warriors sell CRAP! So buy my links instead!" LOL

                      Anyways im done with this thread and reading this clowns posts.
                      Wow blasting

                      1000 bookmarks
                      1000 article directory links
                      1000 web directories

                      All in 30 days uhhh, if that isn't called blasting then what is?

                      And yeah, unfortunately it IS a fact that almost all of those link providers like you sell crap. Actually they should go shame their selves real deep. [serious smiley]

                      Btw I haven't found any professional SEO company that sells blog comments and social bookmarks.
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                      • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
                        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

                        Wow blasting

                        1000 bookmarks
                        1000 article directory links
                        1000 web directories

                        All in 30 days uhhh, if that isn't called blasting then what is?

                        And yeah, unfortunately it IS a fact that almost all of those link providers like you sell crap. Actually they should go shame their selves real deep. [serious smiley]

                        Btw I haven't found any professional SEO company that sells blog comments and social bookmarks.
                        I guess you missed the part wheres is spread out through 60 URLs/100 Keywords

                        10 bookmarks
                        10 article directory links
                        10 web directories

                        per keyword in a month is blasting? Lol
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                        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                          Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

                          I guess you missed the part wheres is spread out through 60 URLs/100 Keywords

                          10 bookmarks
                          10 article directory links
                          10 web directories

                          per keyword in a month is blasting? Lol
                          Oh yeah spreading the spam over 60 url's will make it safe.

                          Go fool someone else dude.

                          When you offered proper links you wouldn't need 1000's in the first place so you're not even worth discussing anything with.

                          Spam all the way!!!

                          Anyway, we both know that you're hardly selling anything so I'm just wasting my time by showing what you do. People have gotten smarter to not fall for that trap.

                          CASE CLOSED
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

              yeah listen to nik0. Everything that can be beneficial to your website is spam. Makes total sense. Lol funny how these kids think they know SEO.
              Everything that can be beneficial? Is that all you can come up with, a bunch of crappy links?

              How about:

              - professional press releases (to cheap to give PRweb $4k/year?)
              - high PR links from strong domains (costs a bit of money)
              - links from established web2.0 sites (not the pr n/a ones with wrapped up txt)
              - guest posts (hey that's a new one)
              - contacting webmasters and offer money for a link
              - 3 way link building with high PR domains

              Funny that I don't see any of that in your service.
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        • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
          Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

          Lol thats so wrong. You need nofollow links to balance out your link portfolio. Think it looks good when your 100% dofollow links? Nope.

          Blog comments arent bad either. If there relevant to your niche that is.

          Social bookmarking links are great. It gives you social exposure which websites need, now more then ever.

          Wiki links/Article directories are fine if its on your tier 2 or tier 3 links.
          LOL, maybe you should actually take a look at his backlinks. I did. LOL at you.

          Yes, you need nofollow links to balance out your link profile. Who said you didn't? Not me.

          Blog comments are great. Except his are all automated and all say "Furniture Canada" in them. Not so great, huh?

          Yes, real social bookmarks are great too. He doesn't have any. He has links from a 'Pligg Blast' straight to his money site.

          This guy is competing in a real arena. Selling furniture is big money. His competitors would have turned him in if Google didn't flag him themselves, which they did.

          Before you tangle with PerformanceMan again, you better at least do some actual real life analysis. You're used to playing in the internet Sandbox with the rest of the kiddies. In the big boy markets you need real links from real websites.
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          • Profile picture of the author nik0
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            Originally Posted by PerformanceMan View Post

            LOL, maybe you should actually take a look at his backlinks. I did. LOL at you.

            Yes, you need nofollow links to balance out your link profile. Who said you didn't? Not me.

            Blog comments are great. Except his are all automated and all say "Furniture Canada" in them. Not so great, huh?

            Yes, real social bookmarks are great too. He doesn't have any. He has links from a 'Pligg Blast' straight to his money site.

            This guy is competing in a real arena. Selling furniture is big money. His competitors would have turned him in if Google didn't flag him themselves, which they did.

            Before you tangle with PerformanceMan again, you better at least do some actual real life analysis. You're used to playing in the internet Sandbox with the rest of the kiddies. In the big boy markets you need real links from real websites.
            He was kind of talking to me.

            Bookmarks, wiki's and all that can be good, but when someone promotes it who offers 1000's of them in his own SEO service then it's just as worthless as the link profile from the OP.
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            • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
              Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

              He was kind of talking to me.

              Bookmarks, wiki's and all that can be good, but when someone promotes it who offers 1000's of them in his own SEO service then it's just as worthless as the link profile from the OP.
              Package 6

              5 Relevant guestposts
              1 Pressrelease at SBwire
              20 Local listings
              15 Links at Social Aged accounts
              25 Video submissions
              25 Doc sharing submissions
              100 Customized web2.0′s
              100 Authority links
              25 Retweets / Likes / +1′s
              25 Digg / SU Votes
              30 Dofollow high PR comments
              300 Pinterest Repins
              2000 Social Bookmarks (Tier2)
              Backlink Booster (Tier3)

              You offer this on your website. Hypocrite
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              • Profile picture of the author nik0
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                Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

                Package 6

                5 Relevant guestposts
                1 Pressrelease at SBwire
                20 Local listings
                15 Links at Social Aged accounts
                25 Video submissions
                25 Doc sharing submissions
                100 Customized web2.0′s
                100 Authority links
                25 Retweets / Likes / +1′s
                25 Digg / SU Votes
                30 Dofollow high PR comments
                300 Pinterest Repins
                2000 Social Bookmarks (Tier2)
                Backlink Booster (Tier3)

                You offer this on your website. Hypocrite
                I don't offer that at my website at all.

                Here people check for yourself Services « Seo service group

                Do you see any of such packages there? I don't.
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      • Profile picture of the author TotalWebsiteControl
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        In other words that means that you should avoid 99% of the link sellers at this forum.
        Yeah. And i take it you fall into the the 1% that he should buy into? LOL
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by HenrySEO89 View Post

          Yeah. And i take it you fall into the the 1% that he should buy into? LOL
          I am not a recovery service so I sure hope he does NOT contact me. I really hate to work on those penalized sites.
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      • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
        Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

        PerformanceMan already provided you the answer or in other words avoid any SEO that builds the type of links that got you tanked. So if they have any of these in their service then avoid them like the plague:

        - wiki links
        - social bookmark blasts
        - forum profile links
        - article directory links (few are not bad, but most sites are total crap)
        - blog comments (all those edu links that you have)
        - nofollow crap (you do NOT need that)

        In other words that means that you should avoid 99% of the link sellers at this forum.

        Btw, often it's easier to move your site to a new domain instead of trying to revive it from the dead. That way you also get rid of your ugly domain name so it's a win win
        What are you smoking...?

        none of those links are bad.. none, zero, zilch, nada. its all about the "sources" of these links, ie: not ALL wiki sites on the WWW are "bad". I own private dofollow wiki sites and I assure you, a link from them will help you.
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        • Profile picture of the author nik0
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          Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

          What are you smoking...?

          none of those links are bad.. none, zero, zilch, nada. its all about the "sources" of these links, ie: not ALL wiki sites on the WWW are "bad". I own private dofollow wiki sites and I assure you, a link from them will help you.
          Yeah duhhh, I also own private bookmark and web directory sites and obvious they ain't bad cause I'm in full control of them.

          Thing is that most people use some software to spam them with 100's or 1000's at the same time, anyway don't need to explain you.

          Maybe I should also install some wiki scripts on the new batch of high PR domains I just bought, just a different way of styling a site.

          Now go count the ones in the for sales sections that offer bookmarks/wikis/articles/profile links/etc on sites that they own and weight that vs the ones that just spam senukex, I think I'm not far off with my 99%.
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          • Profile picture of the author TheFBGuy
            Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

            Yeah duhhh, I also own private bookmark and web directory sites and obvious they ain't bad cause I'm in full control of them.

            Thing is that most people use some software to spam them with 100's or 1000's at the same time, anyway don't need to explain you.

            Maybe I should also install some wiki scripts on the new batch of high PR domains I just bought, just a different way of styling a site.

            Now go count the ones in the for sales sections that offer bookmarks/wikis/articles/profile links/etc on sites that they own and weight that vs the ones that just spam senukex, I think I'm not far off with my 99%.
            "Duhhh" then learn to be more articulate in your posts and make certain you post accurate info, instead of just spewing out random gibberish, then go back on your statements after you have been corrected.

            ... which is what henrySEO has been doing while all you did was engage in childish attacks of his service. You can't first mislead people and say "doFollow" is CRAP then go back and say no they are not.

            ... rookie SEO.. :p
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            • Profile picture of the author nik0
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              Originally Posted by TheFBGuy View Post

              "Duhhh" then learn to be more articulate in your posts and make certain you post accurate info, instead of just spewing out random gibberish, then go back on your statements after you have been corrected.

              ... which is what henrySEO has been doing while all you did was engage in childish attacks of his service. You can't first mislead people and say "doFollow" is CRAP then go back and say no they are not.

              ... rookie SEO.. :p
              Huh lol what where??

              I don't come back on my statement, we know what kind of bookmarks he meant, and you start talking about private network sites disguised as a bookmark site. 2 completely different things.
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      Originally Posted by Nikster View Post

      I didn't do the link building myself. I had an SEO firm do it for me, and this is where they got me. They promised a variety of links, low PR, high PR...no follow do follow...blog posts, forum accounts etc... I guess at the end of the day they only delivered garbage backlinks. So, how can I find a SEO firm that I can trust? I was given weekly reports and all. I verified the links were up there, checked some PR on the websites etc. If you guys can recommend a trusted SEO warrior that can get me out of this it would be awesome.
      IMHO...any SEO firm that just builds links and doesn't add original articles to your site that the links are pointing to, is a bit on the outdated side.

      Any time I do SEO for a client, I add highly relevant and unique articles to their website and then build quality links to those articles.

      Additionally, I only do SEO for brick and mortar businesses because they are easy to rank for highly relevant localized keywords...and because we can perform offline marketing too.

      Works like a charm...post panda...post penguin...and post EMD.
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    dig your site out
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  • Profile picture of the author Jonathan Branson
    the only thing you can do right now it too wait and see what happens. Many sites were hit which are aff based. There's a small healing going on so the update isn't over. Hopefully it will be all good at the end.

    Also did you receive any messages from Google webmaster tool?
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      Originally Posted by Jonathan Branson View Post

      the only thing you can do right now it too wait and see what happens. Many sites were hit which are aff based. There's a small healing going on so the update isn't over. Hopefully it will be all good at the end.

      Also did you receive any messages from Google webmaster tool?
      Nope, no messages from webmaster tool.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oranges
    LOL! Loved the rap. Mike shinoda is proud of you.
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  • Profile picture of the author OneManSEO
    PISSING MATCH UPDATE

    nik0 pissed farther than Henryseo.

    Congrats!
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    New domain it is.
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  • Profile picture of the author shifat
    I can help recover your site from this update,pm me if you are interested.
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  • Profile picture of the author MLMBrander
    Google as we know it has more "mood swings" than any search engines out there. The key is building relationship to your visitors. It might be a so 'long term-so boring technique" but its the most effective way.
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