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Ranking youtube videos post panda/penguin?

by mandos123
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Hello,

Just wanted to ask few questions about people who do SEO for their youtube videos. Is this the same old basic? The more the better? No anchor text diversify needed etc or is it changed a bit?

Thanks
#panda or penguin #post #ranking #videos #youtube
  • Profile picture of the author nik0
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    Ranking Youtube video's is not only about back links, some important factors are:

    - comments
    - views
    - thumbs up's

    And then back links, lately I even saw someone redirecting an aged PR6 domain to his Youtube video url, so that also still works fine, he was ranking pretty high for a very tough kw.

    Btw, its the most crappy video I've ever seen and it has 1000+ comments and 500 likes, so fake it till you make it still works in an excellent way.
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    • Profile picture of the author datingworld
      Originally Posted by nik0 View Post

      Ranking Youtube video's is not only about back links, some important factors are:

      - comments
      - views
      - thumbs up's
      Totally agree with the above
      plus incoming links to youtube counts a lot as well.
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      • Profile picture of the author nik0
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        Originally Posted by datingworld View Post

        Totally agree with the above
        plus incoming links to youtube counts a lot as well.
        Yeah and what also works fine, not sure if you meant that, are placing comments at other video's as all the internal links are do follow and can pass a lot of juice to your page + most comments get approved automatically.

        A tool like Scrapebox can help you by scraping a large list of relevant channels and filter them on PR. That should work pretty well I suppose.

        I never rank Youtube video's though but this sounds pretty logical to me and people placing comments at YOUR video as well as those likes / views / thumbs up definitely make sure you rank in the Youtube search engine itself, not sure if these likes/views have any effect on the rankings in Google though.
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  • Profile picture of the author mgreener
    Like nik0 said, it's not just backlinks as there are other important factors, but strictly regarding backlinks, you need to diversify anchor text as that is the safest way to move forward.
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  • Profile picture of the author supaH
    Its infrickencredibly easy to rank youtube videos.
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  • Profile picture of the author OmarNegron
    I've seen a ton of youtube videos rank on many searches so it seems it could be done and isn't that hard.

    Im assuming its pretty much piggy backing off the domain authority of youtube, which can give you an extra push.

    -Omar
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  • Profile picture of the author mandos123
    Thanks guys!

    However, what is the best place to get comments/likes and views to your video? Should I lurk around the fiverr, use vagex or something else?

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author wilder1047
    People use Fiverr and all the rest of it. I think it really depends on how long term you want it to be. I could only imagine it's a matter of time before Youtube cracks down on these fakes methods, and will cast your video into the shadows... but, if you're just looking for a quick buck on some affiliate offer or a JV, I'd use Fiverr.

    To get social aspects the real way you could either link to it from another video you currently have that is doing well... or run some ads to your Youtube vid until you get enough views that it starts to rank.

    As for what works, I've been looking at a lot of ranking videos, and I don't think exact channel name works as well as it once did. I'd say it's more about channel authority, so if you have some videos that are doing very well, you'll probably rank a new video for another keyword in short time.

    If you look at "micro niche finder review" I took a jab at that one with all the fiverr gigs and exact match channel and all the rest of it... it's still sitting on page 5 of "Videos" since last year. You'll notice the first page result has a video uploaded in July, that doesn't have very much social engagement, but has about 29 videos on their channel.

    The only real problem with trying to analyze ranked Youtube videos is you can't find out their back linking strategy. Well, atleast I don't know of a resource to do so.
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    • Profile picture of the author mandos123
      Originally Posted by wilder1047 View Post

      People use Fiverr and all the rest of it. I think it really depends on how long term you want it to be. I could only imagine it's a matter of time before Youtube cracks down on these fakes methods, and will cast your video into the shadows... but, if you're just looking for a quick buck on some affiliate offer or a JV, I'd use Fiverr.

      To get social aspects the real way you could either link to it from another video you currently have that is doing well... or run some ads to your Youtube vid until you get enough views that it starts to rank.

      As for what works, I've been looking at a lot of ranking videos, and I don't think exact channel name works as well as it once did. I'd say it's more about channel authority, so if you have some videos that are doing very well, you'll probably rank a new video for another keyword in short time.

      If you look at "micro niche finder review" I took a jab at that one with all the fiverr gigs and exact match channel and all the rest of it... it's still sitting on page 5 of "Videos" since last year. You'll notice the first page result has a video uploaded in July, that doesn't have very much social engagement, but has about 29 videos on their channel.

      The only real problem with trying to analyze ranked Youtube videos is you can't find out their back linking strategy. Well, atleast I don't know of a resource to do so.
      Thanks for your indepth reply.. Actually you can check the youtube videos backlinks. You simply have to copy the direct URL and put it to ahrefs.com
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  • Profile picture of the author wsiebler
    Optimizing your channel really well also helps with ranking your video. You can also backlink to your channel YT currently seems to love this.
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    • Profile picture of the author doshmachine
      Are you wanting to rank your video on google or youtube? Getting a number one slot on google is easy. Youtube is little more difficult. Keyword choice and competition are important factors at first. Then the SEO part is easy after that.
      Anyone PM me if you want to know how!
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  • Profile picture of the author pinakin
    Google loves YouTube it is very simple to rank the YouTube video all you need to have is getting more and more views and comments. You can get this by doing some social media marketing and sharing the video with your subscribers, if you have video related to the your own website then you can embed that video on your homepage sidebars and can get some views from there
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  • Profile picture of the author matchoo77
    There seems to be some sort of randomness to how Google ranks youtube videos...kinda like how things were with EzineArticles a couple years ago...

    Meaning....you can create and optimize the vid, do the backlinking, get comments/likes....and Google still may not rank it in the serps...

    Seems like it may be a numbers game...ie if you create 10 optimized videos, don't expect all 10 to rank...if 2 or 3 end up on page 1 of serps just be happy with that. Not really what ppl wanna hear but I think that may be the gist of it.

    my .02
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    A GOOD VIDEO is going to naturally attract people, friends and such to link to it. In turn increasing serp postion.

    With that said. CREATE GOOD VIDEOS and it will happen naturally.

    I make about $300/mo via youtube partnership and I think that qualifies me as a semi expert on the matter. You tell me.
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    • Profile picture of the author ProVergent Media
      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      A GOOD VIDEO is going to naturally attract people, friends and such to link to it. In turn increasing serp postion.

      With that said. CREATE GOOD VIDEOS and it will happen naturally.

      I make about $300/mo via youtube partnership and I think that qualifies me as a semi expert on the matter. You tell me.
      You hit it on the head.

      Good videos AND hot topics of interest gain viewers.

      I produced a video this summer on an off-topic subject, the WNBR in my city and got a lot of viewers, averaging about 60 a day now 3 months after the event.
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    • Profile picture of the author RyanEagle
      Originally Posted by gotlinks View Post

      A GOOD VIDEO is going to naturally attract people, friends and such to link to it. In turn increasing serp postion.

      With that said. CREATE GOOD VIDEOS and it will happen naturally.

      I make about $300/mo via youtube partnership and I think that qualifies me as a semi expert on the matter. You tell me.
      That's a strategy for long-term purposes. Google loves quality so if they do any update on youtube rankings, you will at least be on the safe side.
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      • Profile picture of the author aw4248
        fake views comments,likes,backlinking and social bookmarking
        that would b enough
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  • Profile picture of the author immedicine
    comments
    views
    thumbs ups
    more embedding
    more back links from other videos or other video sites
    your comments on other related videos
    your comments on highly viewed and high pr videos
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  • Profile picture of the author MatthewWoodward
    You might want to check this out-

    YouTube Algorithm Change: 'Time Watched' Key to Higher Video Search Rankings - Search Engine Watch (#SEW)

    YouTube has started adjusting the ranking of videos in YouTube search to reward engaging videos that keep viewers watching. In other words, “watch time” has replaced “view count” in the YouTube algorithm.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    YouTube has been changed to consider total minutes watched. That means the videos have to be 'watchable.' Make videos that are three minutes or less that people actually watch to the end. Penguin has nothing to do with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author The Mysterious Marketer
    As what others have mentioned above, optimize your videos to get people watching them for longer periods of time. In other words, create interesting videos. Other factors to take into account:

    - Social interactions on your YouTube videos
    - Good internal linking strategies
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