Dmoz Backlinks? Do you think they still hold authority in Google after new updates?

by blend
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Hi warriors,

Whats your thoughts on domains that are listed on Dmoz? I've heard recent discussions about Google no longer giving sites credit just because they have a link from Dmoz?
#authority #backlinks #dmoz #google #hold #updates
  • Profile picture of the author jamaks
    Hi, personally I would think it very unlikely that a Dmoz link would be downgraded at all and more likely the reverse since a site had to have some quality features in order to get the link initially. I would not care to outguess Google but I would say the link was more valuable now than ever before. Jim
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    • Profile picture of the author blend
      Originally Posted by jamaks View Post

      Hi, personally I would think it very unlikely that a Dmoz link would be downgraded at all and more likely the reverse since a site had to have some quality features in order to get the link initially. I would not care to outguess Google but I would say the link was more valuable now than ever before. Jim
      Yeah that's possible too, i think a link from yahoo directory seem to have more value???
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  • Profile picture of the author howto
    I got my site in dmoz about 3 weeks ago and my website has not moved anywhere on google. In fact it is doing the same thing it has been doing for the past 4 months. Dancing between 2 and 3 throughout the day. Its extremely annoying. I was hoping the dmoz link would settle the ranking but no such luck yet. I am hoping the link may just take a while to register...


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    • Profile picture of the author blend
      Originally Posted by howto View Post

      I got my site in dmoz about 3 weeks ago and my website has not moved anywhere on google. In fact it is doing the same thing it has been doing for the past 4 months. Dancing between 2 and 3 throughout the day. Its extremely annoying. I was hoping the dmoz link would settle the ranking but no such luck yet. I am hoping the link may just take a while to register...


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      Was your site in the same position before you got accepted? If so maybe your competitors are already listed or something?
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  • Profile picture of the author gpwilson
    Yes. It is true. But it does not mean they are fake or something. They just lost their effectiveness.
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    • Profile picture of the author blend
      Originally Posted by gpwilson View Post

      Yes. It is true. But it does not mean they are fake or something. They just lost their effectiveness.
      How do you know this, has your sites been affected?
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  • Profile picture of the author jfambrini
    DMOZ only has weight when the site has other authority links and has content relevant to the keywords. One of my site has been in DMOZ for years and used to have thousands of hits and went to pr3 on DMOZ authority but post-Panda and post-Penguin it gets a few hundred hits these days. It got some links in some directories and those directories sank DMOZ authority along with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author blend
      Originally Posted by jfambrini View Post

      DMOZ only has weight when the site has other authority links and has content relevant to the keywords. One of my site has been in DMOZ for years and used to have thousands of hits and went to pr3 on DMOZ authority but post-Panda and post-Penguin it gets a few hundred hits these days. It got some links in some directories and those directories sank DMOZ authority along with it.
      Interesting, so overall, having a link from DMOZ isn't that much of a big deal then?
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      • Profile picture of the author dropmining
        Originally Posted by blend View Post

        Interesting, so overall, having a link from DMOZ isn't that much of a big deal then?
        You can't necessarily say it was the Dmoz link that caused the traffic pre-Panda or pre-Penguin, and thus that it was a devaluation of Dmoz links in this update that caused the drop in traffic, there are many, many other factors at play here.
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  • Profile picture of the author limestone614
    We still attempt to obtain Dmoz links for all our clients, we repeat the submission every 31 days until it gets accepted.

    The Dmoz is definitely not a bad place to gain a link from, which is a plus point in our book.
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  • Profile picture of the author howto
    Originally Posted by blend

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    Originally Posted by howto

    I got my site in dmoz about 3 weeks ago and my website has not moved anywhere on google. In fact it is doing the same thing it has been doing for the past 4 months. Dancing between 2 and 3 throughout the day. Its extremely annoying. I was hoping the dmoz link would settle the ranking but no such luck yet. I am hoping the link may just take a while to register...


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    Was your site in the same position before you got accepted? If so maybe your competitors are already listed or something?
    Yep exactly the same. My serp ranking is rather puzzling and me and another site are constantly exchanging spots for 2 and 3 sometimes hourly :S


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  • Profile picture of the author remodeler
    I don't think DMOZ links were worth much even before any recent updates. There best days are well behind them.
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  • Profile picture of the author PerformanceMan
    DMOZ is a repository of old crap. It adds no glory to your site to be listed there.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattSchoenherr
    Certain SEO tools like Raven seem to still track whether DMOZ links are present, but from what I've seen over the years, whole corners of the DMOZ are ghost towns. I logged into the Warrior Forums tonight to see if anyone had any experience to the contrary. I'm not finding it.

    While the DMOZ had its run years ago, I think it's become a tired, outdated directory. Great if you can list a site in a corner of the DMOZ that actually still has volunteer administrators admitting new submissions, but I think the demand to maintain the DMOZ long-ago outpaced the volunteer support available to keep up with that maintenance.

    Conclusion: It's a fractured model for a dusty website that hasn't seen a redesign in what? A decade? Longer? I think Google is well aware of this and--by all appearances in any of the rankings we've ever seen for our clients--I think Google has degraded the importance the DMOZ once held for its indexes.

    The moral of my story: Don't bust yourself trying to sweat out a link in the DMOZ. With over a hundred possible tactics by which to rank a site, there are plenty of other places to find reward for your SEO efforts.

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    • Profile picture of the author MattSchoenherr
      Here. I commonly end up using my Warrior posts as fodder for blog posts. I took the time to look up the DMOZ, as it looked 12 YEARS AGO! You'll notice not much has changed.

      The DMOZ is Dead

      Enjoy!
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesseoservice
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  • Profile picture of the author collantjay
    I think Google still giving site credits to sites that are listed in DMOZ.
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  • Profile picture of the author Terry Kyle
    On its own, a DMOZ link is not any kind of SEO 'silver bullet'.

    If you really want one, buy an expired domain listed there for $5 (plus domain renewal costs of about $10) and 301 it to your site.

    In my experience, a Yahoo Directory backlink does have some SEO punch and you can either fork out the $299 a year they want (if your site is accepted upon application, but if it's rejected, they keep your $299) or use the above expired domain angle and get a (probably) permanent Yahoo Directory backlink for $5.
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryPabelate
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    This is really not good as if your site is not accepted then Yahoo would keep your $299 with them....... I think it charges for the work it does for checking the website they are eligible or not.
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  • Profile picture of the author phuongle
    Google recently de-indexed some directory submission websites. But it’s not the case like every directory is de-indexed in Google as claimed by lots of industry experts. In my opinion, you should not do much directory submissions. You should be submitting your website to very few directories which are really trustworthy. You should give a try in submitting your website to Dmoz, Yahoo Directory, Business.com directory and Botw.org type of websites only. It’s also true it would not be that much easy to get a link from such directory websites.

    So it’s not easy to get quality links and links that are generated quickly are no more considered by Google. So you need to build backlinks to your website the hard way.
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  • Profile picture of the author parihar7
    Hello,
    Dmoz is an open directory which gives a quality back link. but that doesn't mean that google consider it better then others. there are various other directory available which gives you a better link equal to dmoz.
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