Google Launches Disavow Links Tool

Banned 12 years ago

Now Google will have webmasters tracking down link sellers.

Good luck (you'll need it) to everyone selling links.

I can see it now, some guy that doesn't know anything about links, reports the links he bought a month ago because the SERPs aren't static. Link seller gets blacklisted...

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Berkinb

12 years ago

I can see that too: "Oh my God, my rankings have dropped, must be the last HPBL batch, let me report them to save my site..."

When combined with the latest "fluid SERPs" thing, I can see a lot of people panicking and getting trigger happy about it.

Originally Posted by yukon

Now Google will have webmasters tracking down link sellers.

Good luck (you'll need it) to everyone selling links.

I can see it now, some guy that doesn't know anything about links, reports the links he bought a month ago because the SERPs aren't static. Link seller gets blacklisted...

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Berkinb

I can see that too: "Oh my God, my rankings have dropped, must be the last HPBL batch, let me report them to save my site..."
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Yeah and If I know this forum good enough they are going to completely ignore what he says around the 8:00 minute mark. Google IS going to look at whats left. IF you have a scuzzy link profile right across the board as most people do they will report the link seller AND they will remained tanked or worse they might go in being down in the ranking and leave the process with a bigger penalty.

I think its pretty clear from the amount of times he says that most people should not have to use it that if they don't find cause for removing links for you - you are going to get in the same or worse hot water.

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Berkinb

12 years ago

Indeed. I really doubt that anyone who uses that feature will get anything out of it. Google has really found a good way to scare off webmasters.

I predict a new algorithm update in a few weeks after this announcement, followed by mass hysteria and a flood of link removal requests

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Yeah and If I know this forum good enough they are going to completely ignore what he says around the 8:00 minute mark. Google IS going to look at whats left. IF you have a scuzzy link profile right across the board as most people do they will report the link seller AND they will remained tanked or worse they might go in being down in the ranking and leave the process with a bigger penalty.

I think its pretty clear from the amount of times he says that most people should not have to use it that if they don't find cause for removing you are going to get in the same or worse hot water.

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HKSEO Jonbones

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

Now Google will have webmasters tracking down link sellers.

Good luck (you'll need it) to everyone selling links.

I can see it now, some guy that doesn't know anything about links, reports the links he bought a month ago because the SERPs aren't static. Link seller gets blacklisted...

Perhaps you could explain how you think that the link providers will be blacklisted?

Anyone selling links can end up with the same list of forums or blogs, so how is it that you believe that the link provider will be blacklisted, and how?

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yukon

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Originally Posted by HKSEO Jonbones

Perhaps you could explain how you think that the link providers will be blacklisted?

Anyone selling links can end up with the same list of forums or blogs, so how is it that you believe that the link provider will be blacklisted, and how?

Flashback to BMR. Yea, those were the days.

That disavow tool allows Google to fine tune what link sources to go after.

Like I said above, the first thing that usually happens after an algo. update is panic mode. I'm sure this topic will come up in plenty of threads over the next year "Should I disavow all my paid links [panic]?".

I doubt very much G will simply consider disavowed links as nofollow, why waste their time with this tool If it's simply considered nofollow, doesn't make any sense to me. Surely it's more than a simple nofollow.

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Mantasmo

12 years ago

SOOOOO much data to train on. Crazy.

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HKSEO Extropy

12 years ago

Before anyone uses this tool, you should run multiple tests on exactly how it works.

It's possible that it works as described. But it's also likely that you'll maintain some level of penalty from the level of disavowed links. In other words, this isn't a magic eraser if you over-optimize your link building or go too strong.

Never take what Cutts tells us at face value.

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retsek

12 years ago

From the pubcon tweets:

-It works as if there's a nofollow on the disavowed links.
-Sites on the receiving end of being disavowed wouldn't be negatively impacted. So for example, sites like Ezinearticles won't be affected from having alot of disavowed requests against their domain.

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nik0

Banned 12 years ago

I am gonna quit supplying reports right away, really f*ck this, there will always be some stupid souls who will report the links as harmfull.

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sovereignn 12 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

I am gonna quit supplying reports right away, really f*ck this, there will always be some stupid souls who will report the links as harmfull.

Nothing a quick visit to ahrefs won't do anyways!
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- retsek 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by sovereignn
  
  Nothing a quick visit to ahrefs won't do anyways!
  
  Third party sources like ahrefs, majestic and moz can be blocked. But, yeah, that won't help much if they use Google's or Bing's Webmaster Tools.
  
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MikeFriedman 12 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

I am gonna quit supplying reports right away, really f*ck this, there will always be some stupid souls who will report the links as harmfull.

Most of them are going to be found in Webmaster Tools anyhow. No point in doing that.
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- nik0 Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MikeFriedman
  
  Most of them are going to be found in Webmaster Tools anyhow. No point in doing that.
  
  Hmm yeah while typing that it crossed my mind as well.
  
  We can block ahrefs/majestic/ose and what not, Google webmasters tools lol.
  
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  Mike Anthony 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nik0
  
  Hmm yeah while typing that it crossed my mind as well.
  
  We can block ahrefs/majestic/ose and what not, Google webmasters tools lol.
  
  Block em. I have great faith in the inability of Imers to either wait long enough for the links to show up (provided they are not already signed up) or to navigate where the reports are without a push button tool. What they can't see easily they will be less likely to report.
  
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yukon Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by nik0

I am gonna quit supplying reports right away, really f*ck this, there will always be some stupid souls who will report the links as harmfull.

Well, you know that will happen (reporting their own paid links). I mean look at this forum each time a new algo. update smacks a site, people come on the forum freaking out "D@mn G, they killed off all my money sites, how can I recover [insert hysteria]?".

There's no way in H, I would sell links to the general public.
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- Mike Anthony 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by yukon
  
  There's no way in H, I would sell links to the general public.
  
  Thats a great point Yuke. Maybe I am just paranoid but my goodness the entire time I watched this I had the distinct impression the way He kept emphasizing people should not need to use this process that is was a great way to get even more detailed spam reports for them to act on even faster than they have the normal reports
  
  Originally Posted by HKSEO Jonbones
  
  Anyone selling links can end up with the same list of forums or blogs, so how is it that you believe that the link provider will be blacklisted, and how?
  
  Well think about private networks . I mean isn't this a great tool for Google to do some deindexing and now any algo change can get people to go running to them even when the network not only was not at fault but made the impact of the algo less.
  
  I have done enough business with Imers to know they will sell their provider out completely if they think that a report will get them ranking again regardless if its the providers fault or not.
  
  So you are right they can't hurt the provider of spam links but now Network link sellers and even SEOs who use networks for others have one more big thing to think about.
  
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retsek

12 years ago

Official Blog post:

Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: A new tool to disavow links

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HKSEO Jonbones

12 years ago

So you're saying that the purchasers will out the link providers...k. And when the link providers get new link lists, you think they will still be 'black listed' as you say? I was not aware that there was a 'Link Provider Blacklist'. Where would I find this 'blacklist'? Considering the fact that most link providers don't post on sites that they own, how will that work, exactly?

Something else to consider: Using this tool is essentially admitting that you are a black hatter, and buy paid links. Something else to consider.

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HKSEO Jonbones

12 years ago

Mike-While I don't disagree that IM'ers would sell out their providers at the drop of a hat, I fail to see how the link provider themselves will be blacklisted in any way...even the sites that the links come from will not receive any negative impact--as per Cutts himself.

I just don't see how link providers will take a hit from this, they'll just revamp the way they build links, or keep doing what they were doing all along, and just say the links are 'disavow proof', just like the penguin proof links, the pand proof links, etc...

The link providers will be there for a long while still, I don't see this having any real impact on anyone except the person who clicks the submit button with this new tool...I would think that the only person that you are outing is yourself for having built spammy links in the first place.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by HKSEO Jonbones

Mike-While I don't disagree that IM'ers would sell out their providers at the drop of a hat, I fail to see how the link provider themselves will be blacklisted in any way...even the sites that the links come from will not receive any negative impact--as per Cutts himself.

Sorry Jonbones but you are totally daydreaming if you think someone reports - "I see these links from such and such a site and I want to disavow them" then Google look s at them determines they are bought and says shucks alright we'll just let the selling site off the hook and never follow up.

I just don't see how link providers will take a hit from this, they'll just revamp the way they build links, or keep doing what they were doing all along, and just say the links are 'disavow proof', just like the penguin proof links, the pand proof links, etc...

You had a network that got slapped like a step child didn't you and you really think that? Maybe you are only into selling spam links or indexing stuff now but there are still a lot of providers out there with networks and they could be affected.

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HKSEO Jonbones

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Sorry Jonbones but you are totally daydreaming if you think someone reports - "I see these links from such and such a site and I want to disavow them" then Google look s at them determines they are bought and says shucks alright we'll just let the selling site off the hook and never follow up.

You had a network that got slapped like a step child didn't you and you really think that? Maybe you are only into selling spam links or indexing stuff now but there are still a lot of providers out there with networks and they could be affected.

I'm not arguing with you, and I don't know why you feel the need to badmouth my services--Actually our network survived the deindexing just fine, and we closed the doors to new users to prevent losing all of our hard work.

I just don't see how Bill the average IM'er saying I got my links from spamhouselinks.com is going to directly hurt the ability of said link provider to build links--they will still be able to provide links, nothing will stop them from being able to do so.

I'm fairly certain that Google knows exactly what sites are selling links--they can bounce the services out of the Google SERPs, they can de-value where they think the link providers are getting their links from, but saying that the link providers will be 'blacklisted' would suggest that they wouldn't be able to sell links period. I was just asking you how you ( or anyone ) thought that was possible.

No need for name calling, or disrespect, I was asking that the blacklisted theory be explained, that's all.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by HKSEO Jonbones

I'm not arguing with you, and I don't know why you feel the need to badmouth my services--Actually our network survived the deindexing just fine, and we closed the doors to new users to prevent losing all of our hard work.

That ship has sailed and I was not bad mouthing your service just stating a fact that affected lots of people. Your own reps here have already admitted in the past you got slapped so there is no sense in using that "we just closed doors to new users " stuff. I was not trying to insult anyone. Happened to plenty of people

saying that the link providers will be 'blacklisted' would suggest that they wouldn't be able to sell links period. I was just asking you how you ( or anyone ) thought that was possible.

this is now my third time stating I was referring to network sellers be hit. Someone else brought up the sellers themselves being black listed. Losing your domains hurts any seller so lets not pretend - that s my point and only point. I don't know where you are inventing name calling from. No one used any names.

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HKSEO Jonbones

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

That ship has sailed and I was not bad mouthing your service just stating a fact that affected lots of people. Your own reps here have already admitted in the past you got slapped so there is no sense in using that "we just closed doors to new users " stuff. I was not trying to insult anyone. Happened to plenty of people

this is now my third time stating I was referring to network sellers be hit. Someone else brought up the sellers themselves being black listed. Losing your domains hurts any seller so lets not pretend - that s my point and only point. I don't know where you are inventing name calling from. No one used any names.

It was the host's IP's that were de-indexed, not our network.

Back on topic, I'm curious to hear reports of use of the tool, as it starts getting used-I wonder what the actual effects will be on sites that use it-like extropy said, you can't take what Cutts says at face value

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Nelapsi

12 years ago

Since I don't seem to ever get hit by penalties nor worried about updates, odds are this will become the least used tool for me.

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Ben Acharyaa

12 years ago

Matt Cutts is one sneaky little NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-NO-. it might be a big help for some webmasters but there's no way google wont use this tool to get to the link sellers. lol if i ever have my own private network all i would use it for would be to rank my own sites. there's no way i'm selling links to stupid folks at WF. today they'd buy my links, tomoro they'd report me to google even if their rankings dropped due to google dance.

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awj888

12 years ago

could this not start a swarm of, ' i need someone to re-index my backlinks after having them disavowed!'

and doesnt google get enough data? seriously!

for the future maye we can get an, increase my rank tool, and compliment it with a decrease my rank tool

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MikeFriedman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward

I have written pretty extensive piece on why you shouldn't use this tool-

Why Google Disavow Is Bad News For SEO - Matthew Woodward

On the flip side though if you read between the lines you will realise that Google's algorithms aren't as effective as they like to make out (most of you know this already) and that they now have to resort to a human powered army to identify link spam on their behalf.

Spam ahoy if you ask me!

I kind of disagree with your assessment about this. I'm sure Google is going to use the data collected for something. I get that.

What I disagree with though is there is no indication that if someone reports a link to their site with the disavow tool that other links from that same page leading to other sites will be impacted in any way. There is no proof that it is impacting the page. It is just a way of saying 'I' don't want the link pointing at 'ME' counted.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MikeFriedman

What I disagree with though is there is no indication that if someone reports a link to their site with the disavow tool that other links from that same page leading to other sites will be impacted in any way. There is no proof that it is impacting the page. It is just a way of saying 'I' don't want the link pointing at 'ME' counted.

But Mike the video clearly indicates a kind of evaluation is going to be made. They are not just going to say hey you don't want this counted OK and thats that. They say right there in the video that they are going to evaluate the links that are left as well. SO the entire link profile is going to be evaluated as to link manipulation (and if its still bad they are not going to remove the links you requested). So we would have to believe after doing that survey that they see certain kinds of link sources that they would normally want to clean up and just say ok just discount the link but let the link source go free

I just can't see anyway they are going to go do that and not use the information to do some house cleaning

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LiftMyRank

12 years ago

Of course google is collating data, it's what they do, more data = more $$$, however google is 99.99999% algorithmic, they don't have a team of cheese eating computer donkeys(see profile pic) manually looking at every URL that comes in, heck we're talking a TRILLION urls out there, so much data that they have computational and electrical limits to how much they can index on any given day(got unique content?) however if they did implement a algorithmic signal that if xyz amount of disavow requests for certain URLs came in it would penalize the link source then that would just open up a whole new level of negative seo, i.e....i could go to anybody's blog, post 20 different comments from 20 different IPs pointing to 20 different sites all with WBT installed, then report them all to get the link source page penalized......ah I don't think so, this tool is an attempted bandaid fix for a problem they created....negative seo.....not to identify blog networks like some hysterical paranoid google wants to kill me seo pundits rant about....

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yukon

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Originally Posted by John Moore

Of course google is collating data, it's what they do, more data = more $$$, however google is 99.99999% algorithmic, they don't have a team of cheese eating computer donkeys(see profile pic) manually looking at every URL that comes in, heck we're talking a TRILLION urls out there, so much data that they have computational and electrical limits to how much they can index on any given day(got unique content?) however if they did implement a algorithmic signal that if xyz amount of disavow requests for certain URLs came in it would penalize the link source then that would just open up a whole new level of negative seo, i.e....i could go to anybody's blog, post 20 different comments from 20 different IPs pointing to 20 different sites all with WBT installed, then report them all to get the link source page penalized......ah I don't think so, this tool is an attempted bandaid fix for a problem they created....negative seo.....not to identify blog networks like some hysterical paranoid google wants to kill me seo pundits rant about....

I assume your calling me a "hysterical paranoid google wants to kill me seo pundit" (lol).

Take the bait, like the rest of the sheeple, I could care less, I don't sell links. Anyone naive enough to think BMR can't happen to their own network deserves what they get.

What a lot of forum members probably don't know is, a guy was on this forum a couple of weeks right before BMR was hit by G, the guy kept saying he was reporting BMR links (very persistent guy), we all laughed. Damn If BMR didn't get hit a couple weeks later. What's the connection here, reporting links.

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I assume your calling me a "hysterical paranoid google wants to kill me seo pundit" (lol).

Take the bait, like the rest of the sheeple, I could care less, I don't sell links. Anyone naive enough to think BMR can't happen to their own network deserves what they get.

Well Yuke I am into networks and I disagree with you on lots of things but I don't think its paranoid at all. I think you are on the money. Seems to me totally fantasy land to think that some customer comes running to google with a list of network sites they use from me and they get them all discounted and Google after looking them all over says - ah never mind no further action. If you ask me your network sites had better be even cleaner than they needed to be before.

Plus to be honest with the kinds of link profiles that a lot of WF members have with all kinds of spammy links The sites with some actual PR are going to stand out like sore thumbs because given ther inability to get good links it becomes "well hmm....how did they get these?

Now I don't know that I would say I wouldn't sell anything at all to WF members or get that paranoid but yeah its something to think about.

Plus some people are stupid (and they are just the kind to do anything to get back their $50 a month adsense site)and are going to run to Google and say "I want these links discounted they were bought by a bad SEO I used who has his own network"

and provide them a list of sites

I mean seriously you got to be kidding yourself if you don't think Google is going to follow up on that at least some of the times.

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LiftMyRank

12 years ago

Originally Posted by yukon

I assume your calling me a "hysterical paranoid google wants to kill me seo pundit" (lol).

Take the bait, like the rest of the sheeple, I could care less, I don't sell links. Anyone naive enough to think BMR can't happen to their own network deserves what they get.

It wasn't directed at you or anybody in particular, apologies if it came off this way, it just seems the widespread opinion all over the net today and caused my rant, everytime google releases something it's "seo is dead", I just happen to disagree with it and think the tool's primary purpose is to reduce negative seo not increase it, but maybe your right, nobody knows for sure except Cutts and his team.

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Mantasmo

12 years ago

I'm happy to see them doing this. They need data to make Penguin better and a way to fix the "negative SEO" problem, fair enough.

Also, what John said above^^.

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retsek

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MatthewWoodward

I have written pretty extensive piece on why you shouldn't use this tool-

Why Google Disavow Is Bad News For SEO - Matthew Woodward

On the flip side though if you read between the lines you will realise that Google's algorithms aren't as effective as they like to make out (most of you know this already) and that they now have to resort to a human powered army to identify link spam on their behalf.

Spam ahoy if you ask me!

the whole "new age" section is completely idiotic. How is someone going to use the tool for negative seo when you need to have a verified webmaster tools account.

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retsek

12 years ago

Beta Tester of the Disavow Tool reports Penguin Recovery

Google Disavow Tool Released - We Tested It! - SEO Blog by Dave Naylor

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by retsek

Beta Tester of the Disavow Tool reports Penguin Recovery

Google Disavow Tool Released - We Tested It! - SEO Blog by Dave Naylor

and video cameras and keyboards are on fire now as people rush to try and be the first WSO seller to release a $47 guide on how to recover from Penguin with the disavow tools.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

and video cameras and keyboards are on fire now as people rush to try and be the first WSO seller to release a $47 guide on how to recover from Penguin with the disavow tools.

If anything, this new tool will bring out the snake oil sellers.

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by retsek

Beta Tester of the Disavow Tool reports Penguin Recovery

It's magic I tell you, pure magic, I seen it with my own eyes [Poof...]!

Just as had been indicated, the effect was not immediate, nor was it only a matter of days, instead it seemed to take forever and a day, until suddenly one morning we saw that the rankings were back!

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

and the flood of threads about using it are starting up

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-bad-good.html

I have never been more thrilled that I had no customers site go down during Penguin.

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shayman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

and the flood of threads about using it are starting up

http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-bad-good.html

I have never been more thrilled that I had no customers site go down during Penguin.

Am I mistaken or is this the SEO forum?

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by shayman

Am I mistaken or is this the SEO forum?

Shayman nothing against your thread in particular its just that the disavow tool is going to be seen as a lot of people as a quick way out and yeah its the SEO forum but that doesn't mean it doesn't get over run buy lots of threads on the same topic

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shayman

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

Shayman nothing against your thread in particular its just that the disavow tool is going to be seen as a lot of people as a quick way out and yeah its the SEO forum but that doesn't mean it doesn't get over run buy lots of threads on the same topic

No problem Mike

. That is just the nature of forums though, so yes there will be a lot of similar threads while people try and work out how best they can use it for their particular need.

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Dentist

12 years ago

There is another aspect to this tool. It protects Google from whatever it intends to do. If you do business in the US, you can always be sued just by anyone and there are costs involved specially when there is no strong argument on the side of the company that is being sued. Now, with this tool, with just about any complaint, Google can show a bunch of claims against virtually any website/webpage in the world justifying their actions. So, it doesn't matter if you are the owner of a spammy website, EzineArticles or Facebook: There always be a growing profile of stupid webmasters that want to remove your links because they perceived them spammy....

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Suir1980

12 years ago

I like it.

I will submit all my competitor's links as "spam links." I'll do it once a month using something like uBot so it's all automated. I'll also keep checking his backlink profile regularly and submit those as "spam links" too! Kudos to Google for giving us another negative SEO tool! Overtaking competitors just got easier!

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yukon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Suir1980

I like it.

I will submit all my competitor's links as "spam links." I'll do it once a month using something like uBot so it's all automated. I'll also keep checking his backlink profile regularly and submit those as "spam links" too! Kudos to Google for giving us another negative SEO tool! Overtaking competitors just got easier!

You would have to have your link on the competitions site, which probably will never happen.

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RexX

12 years ago

I'm already getting emails form the very companies that build links, not offering to find and submit my links to be "disavowled". This looks like a really bad idea to me. A bit like putting your hand up and telling Google you've been naughty. NOT I good idea in my book.

I posted a full article on my blog, (link below), and have sent a warning to my list:

Google Disavow Links is this the Death of SEO? |

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RexX

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Terry Kyle

12 years ago

Google could have chosen to simply discount what it regards as 'bad' links as they have in the past e.g.

Danny Sullivan: I asked Cutts why Google doesn’t simply discount bad links, rather than considering some of them as potentially negative votes. After all, while it’s nice to have this new tool, it would be even better not to need it at all...Rather than answer my question, Cutts instead focused on the benefits the new tool brings, especially the ability for people to “clean slate” web sites that may have bad links pointing at them.

Google Launches Disavow Links Tool

Cutts' evasion on that question reveals a lot.

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mktrashed

12 years ago

Seems useful for the SEO experts. But, it seems to be a complicated program for a newbie. Maybe, we need to run some tests on how it actually works on real SEO fields.

I wish this to be an useful tool. Let's see what is the outcome...

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rahmanpaidar

12 years ago

Who thought that one day SEO community gets to a point that
people who do SEO, delete and remove links delibrately to get rank
in SERP exactly unlike the same way they did SEO years ago.

The situation we are here in now is so rediculous. Just think about it.
Several link removal services and new tools such as this in webmaster
tools to help you undo what you did exactly unlike the same way you
were doing things before.

I think there's only one reason to this funny situation:
There's a big increase in the number of people who do SEO and
most are amateur. Only few of them knows what they are doing
and rest will dance with what Google sings for them.

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mosthost

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rahmanpaidar

Who thought that one day SEO community gets to a point that
people who do SEO, delete and remove links delibrately to get rank
in SERP exactly unlike the same way they did SEO years ago.

The situation we are here now is so rediculous. Just think about it.
Several link removal services and new tools such as this in webmaster
tools to help you undo what you did exactly unlike the same way you
were doing things before.

I think there's only one reason to this funny situation:
There's a big increase in the number of people who do SEO and
most are amateur. Only few of them knows what they are doing
and others dance with what Google sings for them.

No doubt. Everything came full circle. Removing links is like removing your skin. It won't work out in the end

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Mike Anthony

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rahmanpaidar

Who thought that one day SEO community gets to a point that
people who do SEO, delete and remove links delibrately to get rank
in SERP exactly unlike the same way they did SEO years ago.
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That day has not come. Very few people will rank again just by removing the links. they will remove them, they still will not rank and then they will say - What Now?

Very few people knew then or now how to get the links Google wants so they will still be lost in the rankings

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rahmanpaidar

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Mike Anthony

That day has not come. Very few people will rank again just by removing the links. they will remove them, they still will not rank and then they will say - What Now?

Very few people knew then or now how to get the links Google wants so they will still be lost in the rankings

If you delete those links that Google wants so, then you are still
manipulating search results. There's no difference between building links
and manipulating SERP, and removing links and manipulating SERP again.