Adwords services: Is this the new normal?

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I have a Client I provide copy and online marketing strategy to.

He's hired an Adwords expert.

This expert doesn't provide keyword research for Clients. And he doesn't do landing page optimization. The expert just focuses on Adwords campaign building and monitoring. (His ad copy is mediocre, at best.)

So my Client has to give him the keywords.

And once the visitor hits the landing page, in this expert's mind? His job is done. Landing page optimization for conversion or for quality score purposes is not in his domain either.

Just curious: Is this the new normal? This gentleman is considered an expert, but I can't fathom how his services are effective.

Feels like 'garbage in, garbage out' to me, no matter how good he is. The traffic wouldn't be as targeted. And CPC would be higher and landing page conversions lower if the landing page is left out of the Adwords equation.

What say you?

- Rick Duris
#adwords #normal #services
  • Profile picture of the author iJonathan
    Hi Rick,
    You need to confirm from your client if he has hired the expert only for adword campaign creation. It depends on the contract how things are carried out. Keyword research, ad creation and campaign management come as a package and thats what most adwords campaign managers do (me included). So, it must be something your client has asked him specifically to do. Just a guess. But definitely its not a new normal.
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  • Profile picture of the author jenniferrichard
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    • Profile picture of the author dburk
      Hi Rick,

      That is not the normal services for AdWords agencies. Your client has not hired an expert, just a worker, and from the sound of it, not a very skilled worker either.

      The fact is that you do not need to hire anyone for what this so called "AdWords expert" does. Adwords offers a free setup service for new accounts that includes keyword research. However, I would not recommend use of that free service as it does not get you anywhere close to an optimized campaign.

      With each passing month AdWords becomes a more competitive marketplace for advertisers. You need to hire, or become a true marketing expert to compete in most market niches. The market for goods purchased from this channel is huge and growing.

      The biggest advantage to advertising in a platform like AdWords is the ability to track results down to the individual keyword/ad text combination. The ability to constantly test, improve, and micromanage at this level makes this very attractive for astute advertisers. You will have difficulty competing if you try the set-and-forget route. The key to success in this marketing channel is constant testing to gain insights and adapting your marketing strategy based on those insights.

      Since the introduction of Quality Scores into the AdWords platform, you must constantly monitor and adapt your ads, keywords, and landing pages to keep up with the latest trends in your market. If you try to divorce campaign setup from keyword research, or ad text from landing page optimization, you are not getting full use of the AdWords platform, nor are you executing a marketing plan based on a solid marketing strategy.

      I think before someone bills himself as an "AdWords Expert", he must own the results generated from any ad campaign, and the only metric that truly matters in this area is profit per month. How can call yourself an "expert", if you don't take responsibility for the results?

      Sure, from time-to-time you may run into a client that insist that you only work on the campaigns for existing landing pages (no landing page optimization). That can be done, as long as someone else is handling the landing page optimization. As an ad campaign manager you can optimize the ad campaigns for whatever the currently landing pages are, but your competitors may take advantage of any weakness in your marketing plan, so it is best to coordinate ad campaign management with landing page optimization.

      There are other areas as well, such as market experimentation, sales funnel optimization, which goes beyond just landing page optimization. Chances are that the so called "expert" your client hired is in over his head and really should call himself a "worker" that is need of a marketing manager to assign the proper tasks for him to complete, and to monitor the proper implementation.

      To compare what your client's "expert" offers to what a full service agency like ours offers, the following services are included in our service:
      • Day-to-day management of PPC campaigns
      • Keyword Research
      • Campaign Ad Group Setup
      • Ad Copy and Creatives
      • Landing Page Optimization
      • Bid Monitoring and Management
      • A/B Split Testing
      • Marketing Experiments and Analysis
      • Monthly Performance Reports

      We also employ proprietary technologies, tools and algorithms for:
      • Account Structure Optimization
      • Advanced Bidding Strategies
      • Sales Funnel Optimization
      • Maximum Profit Per Month Optimization

      You better hope your client isn't competing with one of my clients, because we will crush them.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lucid
    A good Adwords manager would not ask the client for keywords. He would come up with them himself. He can ask what the client thinks and get some extra ideas but the client should not have to come up with all the keywords.

    Not every PPC manager is an expert in conversion optimization. Some will handle only the PPC and that's fine. Do you want someone who is also a conversion expert? Then hire such a person if you can find them. A larger company may be your best bet in this case. Otherwise, I see no problem in one person doing only PPC and if you want to improve conversions, hire an expert in that area. I mention ways to improve conversions to clients and will help them any way I can. But if you are looking for a whole package, get such a person or company. You shouldn't blame someone for expecting something that was never discussed.

    If you think ad copy is mediocre, that's another issue. The real question is, what's the QS? If it's average, then searchers are also agreeing with you. But one must remember that PPC is not an exact science. Even good ones can struggle at times. The mark of a great one is working with the client and try to figure it out.

    So maybe the person is skilled but from what you say, I tend to agree with Don. May be just a worker that is not (yet) very skilled.

    Another very important point Don makes is a manager taking responsibility of the results and improving the only metric that counts: ROI.
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