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Amazon affiliates - white hat + low competition

by GGpaul
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Hey all, just checking up on others that utilize wolfmmiii's strategy. Have you noticed any decreased in your rankings?

A lot of my keywords for one of my sites is no where to be found in Google, but still indexed with Yahoo and Bing. Fortunately, I have a lot of posts for one of my sites where it "holds up" on the traffic. But still, other keywords are disappearing.

At the same time, I have NOT been posting consistenly...I don't know if that does anything. And I wonder if pages fall off over time any ways, to where I have to post non stop.
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  • Profile picture of the author Adsman68
    How long have you lost rankings in Google ? I am doing the same strategy. My keywords went "missing" for 2.5 weeks and have come back.
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  • Profile picture of the author wlasikiewicz
    With all the new changes Google are making all the time you will be lucky to keep your rankings for even a week these days. I lost rankings from about 20 products that i was at the top of Google for and they haven't come back yet despite my SEO being good.
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    All mine have increased, but I now have a combination of 800-1000 word reviews(without using the template) and 400-500 words (with the custom template). If I felt that it was worth it and had the time then I would've rewritten all the posts.

    To be honest, I'm not feeling Wolfmmii's strategy anymore. I feel that it's much better to cover a product in depth, leaving no detail of the product out. Conversions have definitely increased.

    When I type in a product to check the competition, it's also a bit sad to see that google is filled with sites which look exactly the same. I really think that when users see all these cookie-cutter sites, the level of trust goes way down. So I think it's a good idea to redesign the site.

    What I will say is that I think Wolfmmii's strategy is good for the complete newbie who wants (and perhaps needs) to see that affiliate marketing works, but for those who want to make a living, a different strategy and more effort is required.
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    • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      All mine have increased, but I now have a combination of 800-1000 word reviews(without using the template) and 400-500 words (with the custom template). If I felt that it was worth it and had the time then I would've rewritten all the posts.

      To be honest, I'm not feeling Wolfmmii's strategy anymore. I feel that it's much better to cover a product in depth, leaving no detail of the product out. Conversions have definitely increased.

      When I type in a product to check the competition, it's also a bit sad to see that google is filled with sites which look exactly the same. I really think that when users see all these cookie-cutter sites, the level of trust goes way down. So I think it's a good idea to redesign the site.

      What I will say is that I think Wolfmmii's strategy is good for the complete newbie who wants (and perhaps needs) to see that affiliate marketing works, but for those who want to make a living, a different strategy and more effort is required.
      Can you please say what you think the different strategy is, and exactly what kind of effort is really worth the time.?

      Is the problem with Wolfmmii's strategy the lack of a serious backlinking campaign?
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      All mine have increased, but I now have a combination of 800-1000 word reviews(without using the template) and 400-500 words (with the custom template). If I felt that it was worth it and had the time then I would've rewritten all the posts.

      To be honest, I'm not feeling Wolfmmii's strategy anymore. I feel that it's much better to cover a product in depth, leaving no detail of the product out. Conversions have definitely increased.

      When I type in a product to check the competition, it's also a bit sad to see that google is filled with sites which look exactly the same. I really think that when users see all these cookie-cutter sites, the level of trust goes way down. So I think it's a good idea to redesign the site.

      What I will say is that I think Wolfmmii's strategy is good for the complete newbie who wants (and perhaps needs) to see that affiliate marketing works, but for those who want to make a living, a different strategy and more effort is required.
      That's no different from his strategy except adding 300 more words. So an additional words helped you keep/increase your rankings? Interesting.
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      • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        That's no different from his strategy except adding 300 more words. So an additional words helped you keep/increase your rankings? Interesting.
        It's a whole different layout as well as different headings, KW density, the way in which I incorporate affiliate links, number of images etc. The way in which I choose products to review is also different.
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        • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
          Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

          It's a whole different layout as well as different headings, KW density, the way in which I incorporate affiliate links, number of images etc. The way in which I choose products to review is also different.
          Gotcha. Cool deal man!
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  • Profile picture of the author sham2
    i am also facing this problem. Hardly two to three week for top rank.
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  • Profile picture of the author yukon
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    Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

    Hey all, just checking up on others that utilize wolfmmiii's strategy. Have you noticed any decreased in your rankings?

    A lot of my keywords for one of my sites is no where to be found in Google, but still indexed with Yahoo and Bing. Fortunately, I have a lot of posts for one of my sites where it "holds up" on the traffic. But still, other keywords are disappearing.

    At the same time, I have NOT been posting consistenly...I don't know if that does anything. And I wonder if pages fall off over time any ways, to where I have to post non stop.

    Pages don't typically fall off the SERPs (unless it's news) just because you stop posting new pages.
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  • Profile picture of the author nest28
    Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

    Hey all, just checking up on others that utilize wolfmmiii's strategy. Have you noticed any decreased in your rankings?

    A lot of my keywords for one of my sites is no where to be found in Google, but still indexed with Yahoo and Bing. Fortunately, I have a lot of posts for one of my sites where it "holds up" on the traffic. But still, other keywords are disappearing.

    At the same time, I have NOT been posting consistenly...I don't know if that does anything. And I wonder if pages fall off over time any ways, to where I have to post non stop.
    Does all your traffic come directly from whatever product your featuring? or do you also get long tail traffic in the form of questions about the product.

    I have couple sites that I havent touched in a couple months that don't rank for any of the keywords featured on my site. I just get all long tail traffic asking questions about the product. The result has been lots of clicks but no sales.

    Last month one site made close to 30 dollars, but that same site has not made anything this month, but gets the exact same amount of traffic. Amazon is not really my thing and these sites were just a experiment, but still nice to learn something new.


    Oh also review sites seem to do better than image based sites with thumbnails of the product, at least it did in my little experiment.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by nest28 View Post

      Does all your traffic come directly from whatever product your featuring? or do you also get long tail traffic in the form of questions about the product.

      I have couple sites that I havent touched in a couple months that don't rank for any of the keywords featured on my site. I just get all long tail traffic asking questions about the product. The result has been lots of clicks but no sales.

      Last month one site made close to 30 dollars, but that same site has not made anything this month, but gets the exact same amount of traffic. Amazon is not really my thing and these sites were just a experiment, but still nice to learn something new.


      Oh also review sites seem to do better than image based sites with thumbnails of the product, at least it did in my little experiment.
      Mainly product.
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  • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
    Think it's normal for stuff to fall off eventually, more and more people find that the product is extremely low competition and target it, so the amount of people targeting it goes up over time.

    My traffic has been up and down with same strategy and i have over 100 posts adding new posts everyday since august 25th. Some no longer in top ten some still holding. Best solution to traffic I have found is: type type type.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by luvhammers View Post

      Think it's normal for stuff to fall off eventually, more and more people find that the product is extremely low competition and target it, so the amount of people targeting it goes up over time.
      This is exactly why it's critical to keep building. Remember folks, my strategy relies on low competition. Once a million affiliates know about a product, it's no longer low-competition.

      Although this is a strategy that works, it's not a set and forget thing. It requires daily work.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    how much traffic are you averaging? I've decided to invest into some writers cause at the end of the day I will get burnt out
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    • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
      for 120 posts 70-90 ish a day. Not bad, not great but started a site in new site recently going for same sort of traffic on that one as well then build 3rd and so on.

      I outsourced some articles to fiver but the quality is not great. Gonna keep writing reviews myself till I can afford to afford to outsource to a full time writer.

      Edit: I have had times where my traffic dropped from 60 a day to 30-40 coz rankings dropped. I just wrote more to make up for it.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Fortunately my cousin is willing to do 500 word articles for $3 each. And he's a damn good writer.

    But at the same time he's a college student so he can't do as many. So I went for iwriter. What I like about iwriter is I can review it/request it to be rewritten/reject it. Besides I rather just edit the work rather than use my brain to write away.

    Yeah, the perks of having a lot of posts is that if some of them are deindexed or not in the SERPS, I at least have the other keywords ranking up.

    Along with other sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    How old is your site? Could it be the honeymoon period Google gives new sites then moves them down the serps until they return higher? Or does that only apply to sites which have backlinks built to them.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      How old is your site? Could it be the honeymoon period Google gives new sites then moves then down the serps until they return higher? Or does that only apply to sites which have backlinks built to them.
      Site is 3 years old. But I started implementing this "particular" strategy at the end of July. And I made my first post about a year ago.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        Site is 3 years old. But I started implementing this "particular" strategy at the end of July. And I made my first post about a year ago.
        Hopefully it's just some sort of dance. If you literally aren't in the top 10 pages for your keywords then it's unlikely you were outranked because others are promoting the products. I can only think it's some sort of algo shuffle. Strange it's happening on a 3 yr old site though.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Yeah. My other sites are holding up. I'm guessing it's this particular niche. Perhaps people see the $$ and are going after this one. And maybe there's just so many posts that Google is placing them all over. Who knows. I'm not going to dwell on it. I'll just keep posting.

    I really appreciate the posts. It means a lot. I recall a couple of you asking me questions in the past, and now here are you guys, helping me out =P. This is what the forum is all about!
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Yeah. My other sites are holding up. I'm guessing it's this particular niche. Perhaps people see the $$ and are going after this one. And maybe there's just so many posts that Google is placing them all over. Who knows. I'm not going to dwell on it. I'll just keep posting.

      I really appreciate the posts. It means a lot. I recall a couple of you asking me questions in the past, and now here are you guys, helping me out =P. This is what the forum is all about!
      It would be interesting to know if the length of a review has a bearing on rankings or is dreamtoreality having steady rankings because their on page SEO is better. Maybe it could be because longer reviews have more LSI keywords in so that helps.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        It would be interesting to know if the length of a review has a bearing on rankings or is dreamtoreality having steady rankings because their on page SEO is better. Maybe it could be because longer reviews have more LSI keywords in so that helps.
        Could be! Either way, I'll just keep building. I haven't built any new content for a LONG time. I was in Las Vegas 4 times the past 2 weeks last month . Luckily I'm already getting passive income, but sales and traffic have decreased.

        Eye opener for sure, that this is a business. Must stay consistent!
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Could be! Either way, I'll just keep building. I haven't built any new content for a LONG time. I was in Las Vegas 4 times the past 2 weeks last month . Luckily I'm already getting passive income, but sales and traffic have decreased.

          Eye opener for sure, that this is a business. Must stay consistent!
          When your posts were first ranking after they got indexed, were they on 1st page in the serps or did it take longer for them to get there?
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          • Profile picture of the author bbncu
            My traffic went down a little bit but what is interesting is that most of my posts went down to 3rd to 4th pages - use to be on first page. I still have a handful of posts that are in the first page and most of them are the ones I posted 1-2 months ago....I notice this change 1-2 weeks ago...so there might be some changes...I still get traffic for long tails though...
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          • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
            Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

            When your posts were first ranking after they got indexed, were they on 1st page in the serps or did it take longer for them to get there?
            Some of them were on the 1st page in the serps, and some never did.
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  • Profile picture of the author pdrs
    I've been following wolfmii's strategy on a few sites as an experiment, also had an authority site that was doing a very similar tactic anyways before I checked out his guide. I had tons of long-tail posts that were pulling in some nice targeted traffic, no shady backlinking (no backlinking at all actually) and then when the last big update came out everything disappeared. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're relying on Google for your traffic, you're gonna have a bad time!
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

      I've been following wolfmii's strategy on a few sites as an experiment, also had an authority site that was doing a very similar tactic anyways before I checked out his guide. I had tons of long-tail posts that were pulling in some nice targeted traffic, no shady backlinking (no backlinking at all actually) and then when the last big update came out everything disappeared. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're relying on Google for your traffic, you're gonna have a bad time!
      When you say the last big update, are you referring to penguin or panda?
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      • Profile picture of the author pdrs
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        When you say the last big update, are you referring to penguin or panda?
        Twas the EMD update back around the end of Sept/First part of Oct. Which I found strange as my sites were not EMD's and the content was quite good, especially on my authority site
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by pdrs View Post

      I've been following wolfmii's strategy on a few sites as an experiment, also had an authority site that was doing a very similar tactic anyways before I checked out his guide. I had tons of long-tail posts that were pulling in some nice targeted traffic, no shady backlinking (no backlinking at all actually) and then when the last big update came out everything disappeared. I've said it before and I'll say it again, if you're relying on Google for your traffic, you're gonna have a bad time!
      Hmmm.....yeah none of my sites were completely tanked from the updates. That is weird..
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  • Profile picture of the author steven Clayden
    im using wolfmii`s startegy on a site i started a good few weeks ago, i am not doing any backlinking to my new content and add new content every couple of days. I have 500 word articles written for me and have around 55 articles up so far. traffic is building up along with the sales. Have sold 5 items in the last 2 days with a total value of $2300. So i am happy so far.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally, I was going to use blogger to promote low competition products, but it's so fragile it's unreal. I recently made a blogger blog with original content then it got removed after only just 4 posts. I then made another blog the next day then it got removed after just a few posts. Blogger is unusable.

      The problem with self hosted platforms like WordPress is that rankings seems to be unsteady. Blogger doesn't seem to have the same crazy serp dancing like self hosted sites, but they get removed far too often.

      Squidoo isn't as bad, but they make lenses unfeatured after a while even if you've filled out all the modules with original content, which is a real pain.

      I guess sticking with self hosted is the only way.
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      • Profile picture of the author nest28
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Originally, I was going to use blogger to promote low competition products, but it's so fragile it's unreal. I recently made a blogger blog with original content then it got removed after only just 4 posts. I then made another blog the next day then it got removed after just a few posts. Blogger is unusable.

        The problem with self hosted platforms like WordPress is that rankings seems to be unsteady. Blogger doesn't seem to have the same crazy serp dancing like self hosted sites, but they get removed far too often.

        Squidoo isn't as bad, but they make lenses unfeatured after a while even if you've filled out all the modules with original content, which is a real pain.

        I guess sticking with self hosted is the only way.
        That's weird, I've been using blogger for years now and nothing like that has ever happened. I even had a blog using adult friend finder ads (was newbie at the time) and nothing happened.
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      Originally Posted by steven Clayden View Post

      im using wolfmii`s startegy on a site i started a good few weeks ago, i am not doing any backlinking to my new content and add new content every couple of days. I have 500 word articles written for me and have around 55 articles up so far. traffic is building up along with the sales. Have sold 5 items in the last 2 days with a total value of $2300. So i am happy so far.
      Nice work Steven! Just keep building!
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    By the way, I woke up today and traffic seems to be going back up slowly. I've added a couple of posts and queued them up for three of my sites. Hopefully I can get a strong run before Christmas (even though I don't get paid for this months check until after 2 months lol).
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      By the way, I woke up today and traffic seems to be going back up slowly. I've added a couple of posts and queued them up for three of my sites. Hopefully I can get a strong run before Christmas (even though I don't get paid for this months check until after 2 months lol).
      Good to hear.

      Just wondering, when you add a post in wordpress do you add tags or not? Does that help seo wise.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        Good to hear.

        Just wondering, when you add a post in wordpress do you add tags or not? Does that help seo wise.
        No tags for me.
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        • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          No tags for me.
          Can you please explain why you don't use tags?

          I guess my knowledge of SEO doesn't extend very far...I thought tags were important. When you do a social bookmark, most of the time they want you to put in tags. :confused:
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          • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
            Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

            Can you please explain why you don't use tags?

            I guess my knowledge of SEO doesn't extend very far...I thought tags were important. When you do a social bookmark, most of the time they want you to put in tags. :confused:
            For social bookmarking I do put tags. I don't know, I have posts with tags and posts with no tags and they rank evenly. I think it all comes down to the content itself most importantly. Therefore I just ignore the tags.
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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenHaynes
    Guys - can you point me in the direction of wolfmii's methods for amazon affiliate site? I would like to check them out.
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    • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
      Originally Posted by DarrenHaynes View Post

      Guys - can you point me in the direction of wolfmii's methods for amazon affiliate site? I would like to check them out.
      Hi Darren... My offerings are below.
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    I feel like a celebrity. Every time I start a thread boom the views rise up. And then I have the lurkers trying to find my site once again on Google =X.
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  • Profile picture of the author cooler1
    Are you seeing any further serp movement since it went back up slowly?
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

      Are you seeing any further serp movement since it went back up slowly?
      I added 4 new posts and they indexed but not ranked. So far...

      But I added 3 other posts on different sites (different niche), and they're easily ranked 1-3.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        I added 4 new posts and they indexed but not ranked. So far...

        But I added 3 other posts on different sites (different niche), and they're easily ranked 1-3.
        For the posts which didn't rank, what is the first page competition like? Is it noticably different to the 3 posts which ranked 1-3?
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        • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          For the posts which didn't rank, what is the first page competition like? Is it noticably different to the 3 posts which ranked 1-3?
          Same as the others. I avoid cnet.com and newegg.com just to name a few though..And they were found not ONLY in the electronic niche =X.

          By the way I'm a war room member now so everyone can message me away .
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          • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
            Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

            Same as the others. I avoid cnet.com and newegg.com just to name a few though..And they were found not ONLY in the electronic niche =X.

            By the way I'm a war room member now so everyone can message me away .
            Do you normally do any on page optimization? Or you just post your product review on your site with no on page optimization? Thanks
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            • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
              Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post

              Do you normally do any on page optimization? Or you just post your product review on your site with no on page optimization? Thanks
              I make sure the keyword is on there a couple times but that's it lol.
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  • Profile picture of the author bluez
    GGPAUL

    i believed you use SEOQUAKE when searching for low competition products, rather than sourcing for listings fill wt majority of PR0 , do you aim at those that are typically < PR2 ?
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    There are TONS of products that result in a page one that contains nothing but PR of NA, 0, and 1. Your best bet is to target products like these. That said, you don't want to search for products exactly as shown on Amazon. You want to search for variants that people are likely to search for when looking for reviews.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      There are TONS of products that result in a page one that contains nothing but PR of NA, 0, and 1. Your best bet is to target products like these. That said, you don't want to search for products exactly as shown on Amazon. You want to search for variants that people are likely to search for when looking for reviews.
      It's frustrating that Google give preference to spammy blogspot blogs. I find when promoting a low competition product that it ranks on page 2, but page 1 has spammy wordpress.com and blogger blogs or things like spammy sites which say 'SALE' in the title in capital letters.

      Do you find that you often get outranked by blogspot blogs? Im just wondering if your site needs to build up some sort of authority before it outranks the spammy type sites in the SERPs or should a new domain be doing so.
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      • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
        Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

        It's frustrating that Google give preference to spammy blogspot blogs. I find when promoting a low competition product that it ranks on page 2, but page 1 has spammy wordpress.com and blogger blogs or things like spammy sites which say 'SALE' in the title in capital letters.

        Do you find that you often get outranked by blogspot blogs? Im just wondering if your site needs to build up some sort of authority before it outranks the spammy type sites in the SERPs or should a new domain be doing so.
        I'm not sure if this is accurate, but last week I was ranking 31st for a new product I reviewed and now I'm number 2. The rise in rankings may be because bounce rate and time spent on site are important metrics for Google.

        This particularly product was reviewed in 1000 words and the vast majority of users stayed until the end to read it, so they were on this one page for 3-4> minutes.

        Having said that, I'm not an SEO guy by any means. Just my two cents, though.
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      • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
        I know for a fact you don't need high pr links to make this work. I have been doing it since around august and plenty of my posts from back then are still first page above people with higher pr.

        Page rank update don't mean anything as it is updated constantly everyday, they just don't update it visually for a few months to webmasters. (If that makes sense.)
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by luvhammers View Post

          I know for a fact you don't need high pr links to make this work. I have been doing it since around august and plenty of my posts from back then are still first page above people with higher pr.

          Page rank update don't mean anything as it is updated constantly everyday, they just don't update it visually for a few months to webmasters. (If that makes sense.)
          Were your reviews ranking on page 1 when your site was new or did it take time to attain page 1 rankings?
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          • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
            Sometimes straight away page 1, sometimes they start at like 90 or outside top 100 then within a few days or a week they push to top 10. (No idea if that is due to onlywire links kicking in or not if I am honest with you. But I use it anyway.)

            Some never make it to top 10 even when the competition looked really low, others made it when the competition looked like I wouldn't make the front page. Google drives me crazy

            Just keep typing reviews everyday in a niche that is selling stuff. It's what I do and it's starting to really take shape. This is not set and forget and worked bloody hard for the first couple months.

            EDIT: Nik0 I am just trying help people, not having dig at you or anyone, I am just typing that it works without high pr links.
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            • Profile picture of the author cooler1
              Originally Posted by luvhammers View Post

              Sometimes straight away page 1, sometimes they start at like 90 or outside top 100 then within a few days or a week they push to top 10. (No idea if that is due to onlywire links kicking in or not if I am honest with you. But I use it anyway.)

              Some never make it to top 10 even when the competition looked really low, others made it when the competition looked like I wouldn't make the front page. Google drives me crazy

              Just keep typing reviews everyday in a niche that is selling stuff. It's what I do and it's starting to really take shape. This is not set and forget and work bloody hard first couple months.
              With onlywire, I heard that it's limited to 300 submissions per month for the free version. Does that mean if you submit to 5 bookmarking sites then you can only submit 60 urls per month or does 1 url count as one submission?
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              • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
                Thats exactly what it means (1 bookmark post to folkd for example = 1 submission.). I have a 5k subscription to onlywire though as I have adsense sites I use it with as well. I can't honestly say if it boosts rankings, If definitely helps with indexing newer sites posts though.

                Later on , your posts will get indexed instantly if you type a review or more a day and you won't need to use it for indexing. I just still send each post to onlywire because I would rather have those bookmarks then not
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    Thanks for taking the time to read this thread Wolfmmiii! I know you've been busy. Awesome awesome news.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    I've been off the forums for a bit catching up on site builds for clients. I got word that Nik0 has been telling folks that I'm using high-PR domains to rank but not telling anyone that in my guides. I started there and found my way here
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      I've been off the forums for a bit catching up on site builds for clients. I got word that Nik0 has been telling folks that I'm using high-PR domains to rank but not telling anyone that in my guides. I started there and found my way here
      I heard that too. Anyways, it's back to work. Thanks again.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    How many words are the successful people doing this using? I'm averaging around 500 - should I go for something a bit higher? One thing I struggle with is products that are really basic. How can I write an essay about something as basic as a pencil for example?!
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  • Profile picture of the author aizaku
    Buyer keywords? if so, buyer beware. Not only has amazon put certain products on their NO COMMISSION LIST:

    https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ing/exclusions

    but Google now gives preferential treatment for eCommerce sites for those buyer keywords.
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    • Profile picture of the author krnekdo
      I can confirm this as well. We have been seeing a while now that ecommerce sites are ranking much better then pure Amazon review sites..

      Originally Posted by aizaku View Post

      Buyer keywords? if so, buyer beware. Not only has amazon put certain products on their NO COMMISSION LIST:

      https://affiliate-program.amazon.com...ing/exclusions

      but Google now gives preferential treatment for eCommerce sites for those buyer keywords.
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      • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
        Originally Posted by krnekdo View Post

        I can confirm this as well. We have been seeing a while now that ecommerce sites are ranking much better then pure Amazon review sites..
        Idk what an ecommerce site is or consist of. Guess I got to research it. But those products that are excluded are mainly electronics.
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        • Profile picture of the author Suir1980
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Idk what an ecommerce site is or consist of.
          In simplest terms, if you can checkout an item directly from the site, it's an e-commerce site.
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        • Profile picture of the author kickmoney
          Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

          Idk what an ecommerce site is or consist of. Guess I got to research it. But those products that are excluded are mainly electronics.
          Amazon is an e-commerce site.
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          • Profile picture of the author JAMES2503
            I made an Amazon review site back in August as an experiment and put around 10 reviews on during the course of August, since then I've done absolutely nothing to it.

            It has been getting traffic and rankings (about 10 UV's a day.) Over the course of the past week though, my rankings and traffic appear to have skyrocketed (50+). I'm getting way more traffic and I'm ranking higher for plenty of long tails and review terms. I've done nothing at all to this site since September, so I don't know why, but it seems time has been nothing but good to my rankings.

            I'm going to put a lot more time into this site as it's really showing some potential.
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            • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
              Originally Posted by JAMES2503 View Post

              I made an Amazon review site back in August as an experiment and put around 10 reviews on during the course of August, since then I've done absolutely nothing to it.

              It has been getting traffic and rankings (about 10 UV's a day.) Over the course of the past week though, my rankings and traffic appear to have skyrocketed (50+). I'm getting way more traffic and I'm ranking higher for plenty of long tails and review terms. I've done nothing at all to this site since September, so I don't know why, but it seems time has been nothing but good to my rankings.

              I'm going to put a lot more time into this site as it's really showing some potential.
              It's skyrocketed because it's black friday/cyber monday time I reckon it will die down a bit in a week, then grow again nearer xmas. But keep working at it!
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          • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
            Originally Posted by kickmoney View Post

            Amazon is an e-commerce site.
            hahajahahahahahahahaha...ok
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    I think it's each service = 1 submission. So if you have 2 urls with 5 bookmarking sites it will count as 10.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    I've noticed a lot of weird sites ranking on page 1. Often by the time I click on them they have already been taken off the blog platform.
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  • Profile picture of the author ProSence
    Isn't it that you have to work for the each page for getting benefit from that, I mean you have to do some link building too for those pages so that they would have desired ranking.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by ProSence View Post

      Isn't it that you have to work for the each page for getting benefit from that, I mean you have to do some link building too for those pages so that they would have desired ranking.
      I've been doing this strat for 3 months. No backlinking.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    When did you start seeing results?
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by elperuanito View Post

      When did you start seeing results?
      I started the strategy in July early August. I'd say 2 weeks.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        I started the strategy in July early August. I'd say 2 weeks.
        Do you find that often blogspot blogs out rank your posts or not?

        I see a lot of blogspot blogs and wordpress.com sites on page 1 and 2 in the serps for low comp products. It's clear that Google gives favour to blogspot because even the content on those blogs is non original and just copied/paste from the product description.

        Im just wondering whether this is normal for a new site. Does your site need to gain some authority of some sort before ranking above these?
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        • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
          Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

          Do you find that often blogspot blogs out rank your posts or not?

          I see a lot of blogspot blogs and wordpress.com sites on page 1 and 2 in the serps for low comp products. It's clear that Google gives favour to blogspot because even the content on those blogs is non original and just copied/paste from the product description.

          Im just wondering whether this is normal for a new site. Does your site need to gain some authority of some sort before ranking above these?
          Nope. The ones that top me off are Amazon.com, amazon.com, amazon.com, amazon.com lol!
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          • Profile picture of the author cooler1
            Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

            Nope. The ones that top me off are Amazon.com, amazon.com, amazon.com, amazon.com lol!
            Maybe it's the link juice you get from the onlywire bookmarks which gets you above them?? Although I heard that is only for indexing, but some say that social bookmarking provides some ranking benefit but only little.

            What is your avg bounce rate? Someone said earlier they moved upto #2 as their bounce rate was about 3-4 minutes.
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            • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
              Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

              Maybe it's the link juice you get from the onlywire bookmarks which gets you above them?? Although I heard that is only for indexing, but some say that social bookmarking provides some ranking benefit but only little.

              What is your avg bounce rate? Someone said earlier they moved upto #2 as their bounce rate was about 3-4 minutes.
              My bounce rate is beyond garbage. 85 percent avg. Although I've sold products almost every other day. Some days are dry.

              OH bv the way, you guys better get ready. Yesterday and especially today is gonna be CRAZY. I have a LOT of views already because of black Friday.
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              • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
                I just noticed I had some conversions too for my amazon affiliate site, and I never had any before. I decided to check since someone here mentioned the impact of Black Friday.
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              • Profile picture of the author cooler1
                Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

                My bounce rate is beyond garbage. 85 percent avg. Although I've sold products almost every other day. Some days are dry.

                OH bv the way, you guys better get ready. Yesterday and especially today is gonna be CRAZY. I have a LOT of views already because of black Friday.
                For onlywire, do you have the $9.99/month package? It seems like a steep price to pay just to get pages indexed.
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                • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
                  Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

                  For onlywire, do you have the $9.99/month package? It seems like a steep price to pay just to get pages indexed.
                  I use it since I have multiple sites. $9.99 is really nothing but that was AFTER I profited. Then I would invest back. Just take the ping list from pingler.com?? And just use that.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    I'm seeing a lot of blogspot on page 1. Often these blogs don't even exist anymore!
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    Yeah that's what I was thinking regarding Onlywire... right now I'm still on the free plan but don't think it will last long considering the amount of reviews I am adding! Still no traffic or clicks, only been 10 days though. Will be very satisfying when/if it works!
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  • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
    Black Friday did me justice. My traffic tripled, and I had a 66% conversion rate LOL! But now it's back to normal I'm sure .
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    • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Black Friday did me justice. My traffic tripled, and I had a 66% conversion rate LOL! But now it's back to normal I'm sure .
      66%? Nice. Mine is 41.67%
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    • Profile picture of the author kokjaywin
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Black Friday did me justice. My traffic tripled, and I had a 66% conversion rate LOL! But now it's back to normal I'm sure .
      How many affiliate clicks you have everyday? Average how many?
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  • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
    I must be unlucky. My conversion rate is usually 5% but on blackfriday my traffic trippled but converted at 1.5 % lol. No idea what happened.
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    • Profile picture of the author JAMES2503
      Black Friday was good for me too, 42% conversion rate and the most money I've ever made in a day
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Nice to see you guys running with my strategy and doing well!
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    Maaan, looks like I was a bit late to the party. Hopefully I can catch some of the Christmas orders before it's too late. Ah well, keep on writing and hoping it works!
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  • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
    This month I've had an absolutely fantastic conversion rate - 12.30% - but ironically Black Friday was my worse day for the last 10 days or so.

    Please note that I've deviated from Wolfmmii's blueprint pretty much completely, but I still think that it's a solid strategy to get a taste of what Amazon can offer for affiliates, particularly if you've been struggling to make money on the internet.

    My advice is to see what works and then tweak it to suit you/your site. Always be tweaking/testing/experimenting, whatever you want to call it, as conversions can always be improved upon.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by dreamtoreality View Post

      This month I've had an absolutely fantastic conversion rate - 12.30% - but ironically Black Friday was my worse day for the last 10 days or so.

      Please note that I've deviated from Wolfmmii's blueprint pretty much completely, but I still think that it's a solid strategy to get a taste of what Amazon can offer for affiliates, particularly if you've been struggling to make money on the internet.

      My advice is to see what works and then tweak it to suit you/your site. Always be tweaking/testing/experimenting, whatever you want to call it, as conversions can always be improved upon.
      I guess you are building backlinks then. What type of backlinks are you building to your review pages to get them ranked?
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  • Profile picture of the author MaryPabelate
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    • Profile picture of the author tryingtolearn
      Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

      Black Friday did me justice. My traffic tripled, and I had a 66% conversion rate LOL! But now it's back to normal I'm sure .
      Congrats Paul The 66% conversion rate is from how many clicks?

      This month is going well for me too. The traffic on my site has increased, the overall conversion rate for this month is around 7%, I have already earned $76 and still should get around $40 more from the pending orders once they are delivered. After seeing the spike in earnings, I have already increased my minimum payment threshold to $200.
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  • Profile picture of the author wellm97
    My site had lost ranking but I got it back with in 2 weeks after analyzing back links and resubmitting to Google.
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  • Profile picture of the author Willing2Learn
    I built a site using Wolf's strategy and posted 10 reviews to it in August and left it alone. In October and November that site made 7 sales that brought in over $50 in commission. I'm going to go ahead and add about 40 more reviews to this site over the coming weeks and see if that boosts the activity and income of the site. I must say though that his strategy works and it's not very difficult or time consuming at all. I spent a few dollars on a domain name and have made 5 times that back already. The hardest part will be adding reviews consistently. I figure I will just sit down and write as many as I can and queue them to be posted so something is always going on there.

    The only thing I haven't figured out yet is how to get the pages to rank higher. Most of the sales have come from one review that's sitting in the 3rd spot and that review is converting very well for those who read it. If I can get my other reviews up in the top 3 spots I'd be doing pretty well. But how?

    I've also just started another site using Erica's longer review strategy. I want to compare and see which strategy works best and brings more income for me over time.
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    • Profile picture of the author cooler1
      Originally Posted by Willing2Learn View Post

      The only thing I haven't figured out yet is how to get the pages to rank higher. Most of the sales have come from one review that's sitting in the 3rd spot and that review is converting very well for those who read it. If I can get my other reviews up in the top 3 spots I'd be doing pretty well. But how?

      I've also just started another site using Erica's longer review strategy. I want to compare and see which strategy works best and brings more income for me over time.
      You need to build backlinks to your pages. Manual backlinking is considered best practice now so I think links from web 2.0 properties, blogs and niche related forums are the type you need. Did you use onlywire for your site?

      The longer review stretegy doesn't involve promoting low comp products does it? So I guess, you'd need backlinks using that strategy.
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  • Profile picture of the author Cizzle
    I started a site using wolfmii's strategy toward the end of October. With in a couple of weeks I was ranking on the first page for a couple of the products I was promoting and made a couple of sales. I currently have 33 reviews on the site, but for the past couple of days I haven't been ranking at all it seems and traffic has dropped.

    Hopefully they will start to come back before Christmas. Should have about 50 products on the site by then. I am also currently using the free version of onlywire.

    Would it be better to use the paid version to submit to more sites? Does anybody else use some other backlinking to boost rankings? How many reviews do you try and aim for?
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by Cizzle View Post

      I started a site using wolfmii's strategy toward the end of October. With in a couple of weeks I was ranking on the first page for a couple of the products I was promoting and made a couple of sales. I currently have 33 reviews on the site, but for the past couple of days I haven't been ranking at all it seems and traffic has dropped.

      Hopefully they will start to come back before Christmas. Should have about 50 products on the site by then. I am also currently using the free version of onlywire.

      Would it be better to use the paid version to submit to more sites? Does anybody else use some other backlinking to boost rankings? How many reviews do you try and aim for?
      I don't use onlywire at all anymore. I noticed that I would rank (or not rank), with the use or no use of onlywire. So it doesn't even matter.
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  • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
    Remember all, OnlyWire isn't really gonna do a whole lot to help you rank. I use it for indexing purposes only.
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

      Remember all, OnlyWire isn't really gonna do a whole lot to help you rank. I use it for indexing purposes only.
      Yup. That's why I think just finding the right products, and working on your on-page will do its justice.
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by GGpaul View Post

        Yup. That's why I think just finding the right products, and working on your on-page will do its justice.
        What on page seo do you recommend doing?

        Do you follow SEO Pressors guideline of putting the keyword in h1, h2, h3 tags plus italicize and underline the keyword or is that not good on page seo now?
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  • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
    masterpees is back again! haha.....

    Thanks to GGpaul and wolfmiii for their thread, post and messages so far, they have really inspired me during several time i feel like giving up. I started a new site and decided to test somethings, i cannot believe using wolfmmiii and GGpauls method i am already sitting on first page of google for several low competitive long tail keywords.

    One word for my friends, forget about google keyword tools and find the low hanging fruits (keywords) No sales yet on my new site its just 6days old but i am already getting 10-15 long tail keywords traffic from google, this is a sign of greater things ahead. Am looking forward to my first amazon sales soon as i post more reviews in the future. Thanks again guys we need more people like you on this forum....
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    • Profile picture of the author TuNguyen
      Be mindful of the Google dance.

      Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post

      masterpees is back again! haha.....

      Thanks to GGpaul and wolfmiii for their thread, post and messages so far, they have really inspired me during several time i feel like giving up. I started a new site and decided to test somethings, i cannot believe using wolfmmiii and GGpauls method i am already sitting on first page of google for several low competitive long tail keywords.

      One word for my friends, forget about google keyword tools and find the low hanging fruits (keywords) No sales yet on my new site its just 6days old but i am already getting 10-15 long tail keywords traffic from google, this is a sign of greater things ahead. Am looking forward to my first amazon sales soon as i post more reviews in the future. Thanks again guys we need more people like you on this forum....
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      • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
        Originally Posted by TuNguyen View Post

        Be mindful of the Google dance.
        For more competitive terms, this may apply. For less competitive terms, Google is just begging for content. I have many product reviews that started out on page one and have been sitting on page one for over a year.
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        • Profile picture of the author cooler1
          Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

          For more competitive terms, this may apply. For less competitive terms, Google is just begging for content. I have many product reviews that started out on page one and have been sitting on page one for over a year.
          Isn't there a Google dance for an entire site when it is about 1-2 months old, regardless of which keyword the site targets?
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          • Profile picture of the author BravoOne
            I've been working on a new site since early November. 70 pages or so, and ranking for around 500 keywords and long tails...averaging 100 unique visitors per day. CTR on Amazon links is gradually improving and I've had a few sales so far. No off page SEO at all yet, other than 301'ing an expired PR3...I just missed the last PR update so it didn't boost my PR yet.

            Also, I'm not sure what exactly wolf's strategy is, but I was following a lot of advice that I read on this forum for the past 8-9 months and got up to $100 a month with 30 micro niche sites...but I was constantly fighting the onslaught of Google updates. I let all the MNS expire and decided to just do the opposite of most of the 'make money quick' strategies I read here, and it's working out pretty well so far.
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            • Profile picture of the author DynoMutt
              Originally Posted by BravoOne View Post

              I've been working on a new site since early November. 70 pages or so, and ranking for around 500 keywords and long tails...averaging 100 unique visitors per day. CTR on Amazon links is gradually improving and I've had a few sales so far. No off page SEO at all yet, other than 301'ing an expired PR3...I just missed the last PR update so it didn't boost my PR yet.

              Also, I'm not sure what exactly wolf's strategy is, but I was following a lot of advice that I read on this forum for the past 8-9 months and got up to $100 a month with 30 micro niche sites...but I was constantly fighting the onslaught of Google updates. I let all the MNS expire and decided to just do the opposite of most of the 'make money quick' strategies I read here, and it's working out pretty well so far.
              Someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but what I think what you're referring too is the PR toolbar update, but actual PR updates take effect continuously. So you may not see your PR number change until the next toolbar update, but you will see the impact of that PR3 backlink.
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          • Profile picture of the author dreamtoreality
            Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

            Isn't there a Google dance for an entire site when it is about 1-2 months old, regardless of which keyword the site targets?
            I don't know if it can be classified as a Google Dance, but what you're talking about is QDF. Google ranks new content highly in the SERPs, even without any backlinks, but after a month or two your site will be ranked where it rightly belongs.
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          • Profile picture of the author wolfmmiii
            Originally Posted by cooler1 View Post

            Isn't there a Google dance for an entire site when it is about 1-2 months old, regardless of which keyword the site targets?
            As I mentioned earlier, I have many reviews that indexed on page one over a year ago and have never budged off of page one. That tells me the dance doesn't always apply.
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            • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
              Originally Posted by wolfmmiii View Post

              As I mentioned earlier, I have many reviews that indexed on page one over a year ago and have never budged off of page one. That tells me the dance doesn't always apply.
              Am happy with this system, but did you ever get hit by google. I have made additional 4 sales making it 6, unfotunately, 4 of the sales were product listed on amazon that they wont pay for. so far i made $3000 sales but get commission of $2 . well it shows the system works and now am going to start building and writting as many article as possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
      Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post

      masterpees is back again! haha.....

      Thanks to GGpaul and wolfmiii for their thread, post and messages so far, they have really inspired me during several time i feel like giving up. I started a new site and decided to test somethings, i cannot believe using wolfmmiii and GGpauls method i am already sitting on first page of google for several low competitive long tail keywords.

      One word for my friends, forget about google keyword tools and find the low hanging fruits (keywords) No sales yet on my new site its just 6days old but i am already getting 10-15 long tail keywords traffic from google, this is a sign of greater things ahead. Am looking forward to my first amazon sales soon as i post more reviews in the future. Thanks again guys we need more people like you on this forum....
      Please explain how to find the low hanging fruit.

      I'm so attached to the google keyword tool, however I can't say it's done me any good.

      But I have no idea how to find these great low comp keywords people are raving about.???
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      • Profile picture of the author luvhammers
        You don't find the low hanging fruit, you stumble upon them. That's the only way I can describe it.

        The traffic come with the amount of articles you write (following the guide ofc). If you are not writing more then 2 review a day, then I really don't think you will get anywhere with this strategy.
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        • Profile picture of the author CatherineMay
          Originally Posted by luvhammers View Post

          You don't find the low hanging fruit, you stumble upon them. That's the only way I can describe it.

          The traffic come with the amount of articles you write (following the guide ofc). If you are not writing more then 2 review a day, then I really don't think you will get anywhere with this strategy.

          Does anyone else have a comment about finding low-hanging fruit, and the right keywords that go with them? I was confused when someone up the thread said to "forget about google's keyword." . Other people say you really don't to pay for any kind of keyword software, that google's keyword tool is all you need.

          Also, some people say you've got to have 1000-word reviews/articles, other people say 500 words is plenty.

          I feel like a yo-yo sometimes, when trying to figure out what to do.
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          • Profile picture of the author Stevie C
            Originally Posted by CatherineMay View Post

            Does anyone else have a comment about finding low-hanging fruit, and the right keywords that go with them? I was confused when someone up the thread said to "forget about google's keyword." . Other people say you really don't to pay for any kind of keyword software, that google's keyword tool is all you need.

            Also, some people say you've got to have 1000-word reviews/articles, other people say 500 words is plenty.

            I feel like a yo-yo sometimes, when trying to figure out what to do.
            Everyone will have different methods of making money with Amazon so there is no right or wrong way, I personally use different methods for different sites. Check out Erica Stone's extreme review or Wolfmii's course that he lists in his signature both totally different ways of making money with Amazon but both legitimate.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    I'm starting to rank for a couple of keywords as well. Altered my on-site SEO a bit (thanks to wolfmmii) and will see whether I can improve those results. Not getting masses of traffic and no conversions yet, but can see I am improving and on the right track. Let's see where it takes me!
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  • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
    Wolfmmiii is right! thanks to everyone that has helped me on this forum.

    AM HERE TO ANNOUNCE MY FIRST AMAZON SALES! MY 6DAYS OLD SITE MADE ME MY FIRST SALES. THANKS AGAIN WOLFMMIII AND GGPAUL AM FOREVER GRATEFUL
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    @masterpeez4py:

    That's awesome! I'm glad you are seeing success.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    Maybe that's my mistake, then. I'm writing 1 article per day...
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    • Profile picture of the author TuNguyen
      1 article a day is fine.

      Originally Posted by elperuanito View Post

      Maybe that's my mistake, then. I'm writing 1 article per day...
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    • Profile picture of the author GGpaul
      Originally Posted by elperuanito View Post

      Maybe that's my mistake, then. I'm writing 1 article per day...
      Honestly, if you have all the time in the world then why settle for one? The key is to be successful in this industry right? Why hold yourself back? Keep building.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    Yeah, am working on a new niche at the moment and setting up a new site. The reason I am building 1 a day is that I'm currently on wolfmmii's $200 training programme and that's what he suggested doing - - he provided me with an initial list of low-comp products to review. However I've run out of products on that initial list now so am going to try my own thing now as well...

    I still think the system could work so am just going to have to crank it up a notch and burn the midnight oil to get it done. I would like to thank you for all your advice GGpaul - - it's been inspiring for me!

    Also, I don't really have all the time in the world. I unfortunately still have another job to bring in the cash, but hopefully this will work eventually. I'm giving a lot of my free time to exploring IM stuff, so we'll see. I will keep reporting until it works! :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    I write articles from 300-700 words, depending on the product. I think 1000 is a bit too much to read to be honest. I've ranked a few of my reviews on page 1, another one today so am happy with the progress.

    In terms of keyword research -- if you're reviewing brand new products it won't be helpful. It will show you the average search results, so you won't get accurate data for the past weeks for example. So it's difficult to gauge exactly how often people are looking for brand new Amazon products. I think the best thing to do is write as many reviews as possible and then some of them will be home runs. Do the research as per Wolfmmii's guide...
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    • Profile picture of the author masterpeez4py
      Originally Posted by elperuanito View Post

      I write articles from 300-700 words, depending on the product. I think 1000 is a bit too much to read to be honest. I've ranked a few of my reviews on page 1, another one today so am happy with the progress.

      In terms of keyword research -- if you're reviewing brand new products it won't be helpful. It will show you the average search results, so you won't get accurate data for the past weeks for example. So it's difficult to gauge exactly how often people are looking for brand new Amazon products. I think the best thing to do is write as many reviews as possible and then some of them will be home runs. Do the research as per Wolfmmii's guide...

      well said mate! this is exactly what i am doing. i dont bother about keyword research most times they are not even accurate. my new product review site that was build 8-9days ago is already getting 50-100 long tail traffic. like wolfmmiii said keep building and i write just 300-400 words articles with 70% first page ranking. Goodluck
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      • Profile picture of the author cooler1
        Originally Posted by masterpeez4py View Post

        well said mate! this is exactly what i am doing. i dont bother about keyword research most times they are not even accurate. my new product review site that was build 8-9days ago is already getting 50-100 long tail traffic. like wolfmmiii said keep building and i write just 300-400 words articles with 70% first page ranking. Goodluck
        How long does it take for your articles to get to the first page? My posts get indexed about 30 seconds after they are submitted, but mostly I don't see them ranked anywhere on the first ten pages in Google. Just lots of spammy looking sites or blogs with things like "best price blackfriday", etc..

        Im not sure if promoting low comp products without backlinking is a good idea. Clearly some traffic comes so it works to an extent, but it's difficult to get a decent ranking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
    I find that the hardest part for me is finding a good niche to promote products in, the ones that I can write reviews myself are too competitive.
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      Originally Posted by Danijelb View Post

      I find that the hardest part for me is finding a good niche to promote products in, the ones that I can write reviews myself are too competitive.

      I don't do reviews but If your holding back creating content because competition is tough (SEO?) your seriously limiting yourself/business/income.
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      • Profile picture of the author Danijelb
        When I say tough competition, I mean that high number of people is doing reviews for that niche. But yes I will not give up, going to keep posting reviews and see what happens when I have like 100 of them.
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    Erica Stone is really good too.
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  • Profile picture of the author elperuanito
    Made my first sale! Very happy. :-) It's always difficult waiting for the initial success!
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