Which Spinning Tool Works Better? TBS Vs Spinrewriter Vs SpinnerChief?

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Just wanted to know which spinner tool you found best? I was a serious user of TBS nowadays using Spinrewriter I used free version of SpinnerChief too. I have found Spinrewriter is better than TBS. On the other hand SpinnerChief is just crap to me! I think Spinrewriter can generate better meaningful articles than TBS.

Just wanted to know your experience.
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  • Profile picture of the author DarrenHaynes
    I have used all 3 of those software, and more or less agree with you - sort of :-)

    I also think spinrewriter is best for a one push button spin (which I don't do a lot of). However, you need to use their best spin quality to get a fairly readable spin that needs limited editing, and that only gets me a spin of around 33% unique on average, which is not a lot, but the best of any spin software I have seen yet.

    However to get higher percentage spins, medium or lowest quality is needed with spinrewriter, and the readability starts to drop considerably. So much so that the editing time to makes the spin decent, is the same as me manually spinning an article, and I can create a much better article from manually spinning from scratch. Like BIG TIME better.

    So all in all, I agree that spinrewriter is the best one button press software. I just rarely go that route.

    TBS3 is my spinner of choice, since manually spinning is the way I work for highest quality, and I can work most quickly with TBS3 for this purpose. Especially as I use my own favorites and TBS3 is great for that and user friendly I think, with a little usage and practice.

    I had the paid version of SC2, and I think it is a decent spinner, but I just don't find it quite as user friendly for my purposes as TBS3. I like to consistently update and refine my favorites, and SC2 isn't as easy to use for that purpose.

    If I was only allowed to use one spinner, it would TBS - hands down!
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    • Profile picture of the author Mike Anthony
      Third vote for Spinrewriter as giving the best spinning from a best readability stand point. Since my "spinning" is more really rewriting my vote goes to Spinchimp. I just think the way they did Chimp rewriter is solid for rewriting. If I want a few more versions I then run it through spinrewriter.

      I guess I may try Best Spinner again but people always say thats the best even a year ago and I tried it then and thought - whats the big deal. I almost think people are just conditioned to say TBS but to me they are almost all the same (but again I do more rewriting than word spinning).

      Hey Darren the two work together. You can do rewriting/spinning in TBS and then take outputs from that and run them through Spin rewriter.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    I don't care what a spinner software "creates". None of them can create anything even remotely readable if you use them to auto-spin. I do use spinners for manual work only, have extensive experience with Spinnerchief and many other spinner software. The earlier version of SC was horrible, constant crashes etc. making it impossible to work with it. TBS all around, much better spell check (extremely important) and does anything without a hitch.

    Overall, most of the spinner software is really very similar (as said auto-spin doesn't interest me) - so it comes down to stability, useability and then how good the thesaurus is. TBS is just very solid to work with.
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  • Profile picture of the author b4uindia
    My vote goes to TBS which is seems to be one of best user friendly spinner can help you in both manner auto/manual spin both ways.
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    • Profile picture of the author realseowarrior
      Originally Posted by b4uindia View Post

      My vote goes to TBS which is seems to be one of best user friendly spinner can help you in both manner auto/manual spin both ways.
      Spinrewriter is one eyed among the blinds. You need to proofread before using the content. Readability is better than most
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      • Profile picture of the author Jacob Sterbenk
        Originally Posted by realseowarrior View Post

        Spinrewriter is one eyed among the blinds. You need to proofread before using the content. Readability is better than most
        Haha, what a great metaphor

        We are constantly working hard to improve Spin Rewriter and I'm glad to read that our users are satisfied with it. I can now officially say that we'll be releasing Spin Rewriter 3.0 on December 6th. It will have many additional options that will make articles even more unique and readable. The upgrade will be free for all our users (of course).

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        • Profile picture of the author realseowarrior
          Originally Posted by Jacob Sterbenk View Post

          Haha, what a great metaphor

          We are constantly working hard to improve Spin Rewriter and I'm glad to read that our users are satisfied with it. I can now officially say that we'll be releasing Spin Rewriter 3.0 on December 6th. It will have many additional options that will make articles even more unique and readable. The upgrade will be free for all our users (of course).

          Jacob, Spin Rewriter JV manager
          Didn't know that creators had an eye over whats been talked about their product.
          But after trying literally every spinner and rewriter , Jacob i highly doubt if there will be one that could produce content quality enough to be posted without corrections.

          But as of now , i am sticking with spinrewriter.
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        • Profile picture of the author jadesource
          Originally Posted by Jacob Sterbenk View Post

          Haha, what a great metaphor

          We are constantly working hard to improve Spin Rewriter and I'm glad to read that our users are satisfied with it. I can now officially say that we'll be releasing Spin Rewriter 3.0 on December 6th. It will have many additional options that will make articles even more unique and readable. The upgrade will be free for all our users (of course).

          Jacob, Spin Rewriter JV manager
          Hi Jacob-- asked a question wanted to make sure you saw it.
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  • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
    I use both The Best Spinner and Spin Rewriter and while my experience with auto-spinning is limited (precisely because I've never found it to work well enough to be worthwhile), I find that auto-spinning is simply worthless. It basically creates web spam so if you want to get a site sand-boxed I'd say auto-spinning is the way to go.

    I find that the only valid way to spin is to do manual spinning - manually choosing from a list of synonyms. It's tedious and time consuming to do 400 words let alone 800. However the only way to get a truly decently-written article is to manually choose an assortment of synonyms and similar phrases to spin.

    Even then I find that to meet my standards I have to then manually re-write or heavily edit the articles.

    If I'm writing youtube descriptions for 8 videos that are all on similar subject matter (such as a service or product) then I think a quicker re-write is acceptable. But if you are making anything other than what is essentially web spam for backlinks, then manual spinning is the only way to go.

    For this purpose I prefer The Best Spinner. I find it more user friendly and satisfactory than the Spin Rewriter.

    I hope someone will prove me wrong by doing a push-button spin on this post and posting it here. Tell me how you did it and I'll eat my words about how push-button spinning is worthless.
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    • Profile picture of the author emotainment
      Originally Posted by seosoldier View Post

      I use both The Best Spinner and Spin Rewriter and while my experience with auto-spinning is limited (precisely because I've never found it to work well enough to be worthwhile), I find that auto-spinning is simply worthless. It basically creates web spam so if you want to get a site sand-boxed I'd say auto-spinning is the way to go.

      I find that the only valid way to spin is to do manual spinning - manually choosing from a list of synonyms. It's tedious and time consuming to do 400 words let alone 800. However the only way to get a truly decently-written article is to manually choose an assortment of synonyms and similar phrases to spin.

      Even then I find that to meet my standards I have to then manually re-write or heavily edit the articles.

      If I'm writing youtube descriptions for 8 videos that are all on similar subject matter (such as a service or product) then I think a quicker re-write is acceptable. But if you are making anything other than what is essentially web spam for backlinks, then manual spinning is the only way to go.

      For this purpose I prefer The Best Spinner. I find it more user friendly and satisfactory than the Spin Rewriter.

      I hope someone will prove me wrong by doing a push-button spin on this post and posting it here. Tell me how you did it and I'll eat my words about how push-button spinning is worthless.
      Here you go:
      I utilize both The Best Spinner and Spin Rewriter and while my experience with auto-spinning is restricted (exactly since I've never ever located it to work well enough to be beneficial), I find that auto-spinning is simply worthless. It basically produces web spam so if you wish to get a website sand-boxed I 'd state auto-spinning is the means to go.

      I find that the only legitimate means to rotate is to do manual spinning - manually picking from a listing of synonyms. It's tedious and time consuming to do 400 words let alone 800. Nevertheless the only method to obtain a genuinely decently-written article is to manually choose an assortment of synonyms and comparable phrases to rotate.

      Even then I discover that to fulfill my criteria I need to then manually re-write or heavily modify the write-ups.

      If I'm writing youtube descriptions for 8 videos that are all on comparable subject matter (such as a service or product) then I think a quicker re-write is acceptable. However if you are making anything other than what is essentially web spam for back links, then manual spinning is the only means to go.

      For this purpose I choose The Best Spinner. I find it more individual friendly and satisfactory than the Spin Rewriter.

      I hope someone will prove me inappropriate by doing a push-button spin on this post and uploading it right here. Tell me exactly how you did it and I'll consume my words about exactly how push-button spinning is worthless.
      Not bad!

      I made the errors in red, BUT, let's be fair here. There's not really a synonym for "spinning" because it's made up jargon. In the case of the word wrong, there isn't really an appropriate synonym other than "incorrect", which when I clicked the button again, came up in the second version.

      Lastly, there's not really a synonym for "eat" in this case, because it's part of a saying. All in all, I'd say there is really only one glaring error, with NO editing and the following result:
      Uniqueness Stats: The generated version is 87% unique when compared to original text.

      My subscription for Spinrewriter is up next week (the reason I'm reading this thread), but the only reason I would switch is the price.

      Basically is it worth $5 a month to spin articles? I've been on the fence but I think it is even with free or cheaper alternatives.

      One last thing about Spinrewriter that is different than the others is that it's a web app, so you can log in from any computer.
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      • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
        Originally Posted by emotainment View Post

        Here you go:
        I utilize both The Best Spinner and Spin Rewriter and while my experience with auto-spinning is restricted (exactly since I've never ever located it to work well enough to be beneficial), I find that auto-spinning is simply worthless. It basically produces web spam so if you wish to get a website sand-boxed I 'd state auto-spinning is the means to go.

        I find that the only legitimate means to rotate is to do manual spinning - manually picking from a listing of synonyms. It's tedious and time consuming to do 400 words let alone 800. Nevertheless the only method to obtain a genuinely decently-written article is to manually choose an assortment of synonyms and comparable phrases to rotate.

        Even then I discover that to fulfill my criteria I need to then manually re-write or heavily modify the write-ups.

        If I'm writing youtube descriptions for 8 videos that are all on comparable subject matter (such as a service or product) then I think a quicker re-write is acceptable. However if you are making anything other than what is essentially web spam for back links, then manual spinning is the only means to go.

        For this purpose I choose The Best Spinner. I find it more individual friendly and satisfactory than the Spin Rewriter.

        I hope someone will prove me inappropriate by doing a push-button spin on this post and uploading it right here. Tell me exactly how you did it and I'll consume my words about exactly how push-button spinning is worthless.
        Not bad!

        I made the errors in red, BUT, let's be fair here. There's not really a synonym for "spinning" because it's made up jargon. In the case of the word wrong, there isn't really an appropriate synonym other than "incorrect", which when I clicked the button again, came up in the second version.

        Lastly, there's not really a synonym for "eat" in this case, because it's part of a saying. All in all, I'd say there is really only one glaring error, with NO editing and the following result:
        Uniqueness Stats: The generated version is 87% unique when compared to original text.

        My subscription for Spinrewriter is up next week (the reason I'm reading this thread), but the only reason I would switch is the price.

        Basically is it worth $5 a month to spin articles? I've been on the fence but I think it is even with free or cheaper alternatives.

        One last thing about Spinrewriter that is different than the others is that it's a web app, so you can log in from any computer.
        You see, this is a matter of one's subjective opinion. To me the above auto-spun paragraphs, EVEN WITHOUT THE HIGHLIGHTED ERRORS, is so poorly written that I would never post it on a web site or use it for an article.

        For those or you who would, more power to you.

        Is it understandable? More or less, yes. But is it well written or even correctly written? No, it sounds like it was written by someone who doesn't speak English or by ... a software that spins content. IMHO.

        But judging by many IMers' written material, they don't know the difference between good grammar and bad grammar or good writing and bad writing, anyway. About 9 out of 10 of IMer's pdf's I read are horribly written. Just sayin'.
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  • Profile picture of the author GeorgR.
    Auto-spin cannot work for that reason that it doesn't magically add alternate sentences, sentences which make sense and flow with the rest of the text. And word-level spin is not enough, I am pretty sure Google is smart enough and knows a synonym if it sees one, so it would know that it's a duplicate. Therefore: Always (manual) sentences PLUS (manual) words.
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    • Profile picture of the author DonDraper
      Originally Posted by GeorgR. View Post

      Auto-spin cannot work for that reason that it doesn't magically add alternate sentences, sentences which make sense and flow with the rest of the text. And word-level spin is not enough, I am pretty sure Google is smart enough and knows a synonym if it sees one, so it would know that it's a duplicate. Therefore: Always (manual) sentences PLUS (manual) words.
      Of course, If you are creating content for some of your blogs or sites than this is a must.

      Word level spin can never be enough. But is good enough for article directories or bookmarking and so forth.

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    • Profile picture of the author DonDraper
      Originally Posted by itejsin View Post

      I would couch for spinner chief as it is free of charge and pretty good as well
      You have to try wordai if you spin a lot, I know spinnerchief has free version that you can work with but automatic spins need to be heavily edited manually. On the other hand even the basic version offers excellent results with one click. I haven't yet tried their 'turing' version but I am sure it will be worth it.

      Go ahead and give it a try, it's free for 3 days. (If you decide to stick with it, come back for my affiliate wordai link )

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    • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
      Originally Posted by itejsin View Post

      I would couch for spinner chief as it is free of charge and pretty good as well
      Did you autospin that reply or did you mean "Vouch" for Spinner Chief?
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  • Profile picture of the author muzz
    I think natural and unique content is best spun articles not good for reputation.
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    • Profile picture of the author DonDraper
      Originally Posted by muzz View Post

      I think natural and unique content is best spun articles not good for reputation.
      Yet you can use such tool to create perfectly good versions of your own material so you don't submit same article over and over.

      You can get very good results if you manually rewrite and spin your original piece, some find this useful.

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  • Profile picture of the author Mkcoy
    I use TBS. But I NEVER just autospin/rewrite it off the bat.

    First of all I will use word replace to replace all or most of the words to another word.

    I will then use the spin feature adding no more than 2 or 3 words per word.

    Of couse, you will have to manually proof read it after to check its making sense.
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  • Profile picture of the author HKSEO Jonbones
    Another vote for TBS--just seems like it's an easier to use interface than some of the other spin tools
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    SpinChimp is what I use but don't just hit the auto spin. Actually do it by hand. Much better results.
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  • Profile picture of the author weston2012
    I like the protected terms of the best spinner where my keywords are not spinning. Its good for me.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dead Body
    TBS is the best because lots of SEO Software support it using username and passwords. One thing more is that spinning of content does not mean that you have get optimum quality of text a lots of gremmer mistakes in all Spinning softwars....
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  • Profile picture of the author redchillies
    All three tools are best with their own unique features. But, it would still recommend you to go for manual re-writing rather than depending on a software program.
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    • Profile picture of the author Rhino99
      I think you need at least 70 percent uniqueness (if not higher) these days, and to get that level while still being readable I rewrite every sentence then spin at word level along with spin images and embedded YouTube links. It takes ages and it's really boring. Considering outsourcing it for $35, but then the costs mount up when you're looking to get 5-10 articles on every web 2.0 site.
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  • Profile picture of the author iJonathan
    Originally Posted by rafiseo View Post

    Just wanted to know which spinner tool you found best? I was a serious user of TBS nowadays using Spinrewriter I used free version of SpinnerChief too. I have found Spinrewriter is better than TBS. On the other hand SpinnerChief is just crap to me! I think Spinrewriter can generate better meaningful articles than TBS.

    Just wanted to know your experience.
    Spinning tools are useless. Every single one of them. A blind china man could probably do a better job.
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  • Profile picture of the author cypherslock
    There's a proper way to spin (by hand) that gives you massive uniqueness while being totally readable. So no they're not useless.
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  • Profile picture of the author ttippmann
    Whoever says spinning tools are useless or that they don't work, just means that they don't know how to use them effectively. They do work especially if you use them correctly and have a plan of attach.

    So, please stop saying "the human mind is the best spinner" because that is not what these threads are about. They are for people looking for ways to multiply their productivity with effective automation tools.
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  • Profile picture of the author gedesud1k
    TBS is still the best...but its very expensive, IMO manual re-writing is more satisfy
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  • Profile picture of the author jasono
    Any of them will do if you do manual spinning. No tool is perfect especially if you do auto-spinning from any of these tools.
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    • Profile picture of the author pokerdawg
      TBS is the best by far. I've tried the new Spinrewriter and had it do sentence rewrites. It doesn't really rewrite. It takes something like this:

      "However, this is an issue."

      And turns it into:

      {However, this is an issue.|This is an issue.}

      It will remove the "however" or "for example", and consider it a new spin. On a 14 word sentence, this isn't a spin, it is dropping a single word.

      My fav is using TBS as a word processor on steroids. I recently did a manual spin using TBS with sentence rewrites (6 of each sentence) and phrase spins (my choice on synonyms, not auto generated). The results are fantastic. Every spin is human readable and I'm getting amazingly good results using them.

      It is a TON of work to get it right. I spent 4 days on this one piece, but generated 800 pieces that are so unique, so well received, it was worth the effort.
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    • Profile picture of the author pokerdawg
      TBS is the best by far. I've tried the new Spinrewriter and had it do sentence rewrites. It doesn't really rewrite. It takes something like this:

      "However, this is an issue."

      And turns it into:

      {However, this is an issue.|This is an issue.}

      It will remove the "however" or "for example", and consider it a new spin. On a 14 word sentence, this isn't a spin, it is dropping a single word.

      It also turns: Jack and Jill

      into: {Jack and Jill|Jill and Jack}

      I've tried using the "automated" part of it on "highest" / "best" settings and ended up with a lot of bad combinations.

      My fav is using TBS as a word processor on steroids. I recently did a manual spin using TBS with sentence rewrites (6 of each sentence) and phrase spins (my choice on synonyms, not auto generated). The results are fantastic. Every spin is human readable and I'm getting amazingly good results using them.

      One tip with TBS - as you find your own spins that you like that you know you can reuse, add them to "My Favorites" (or something like that). It is a mini library of your own trusted spins. When you use them you will find it helps speed the process along, as you are using your own combinations. Word of caution: proof read anyway. A combo that sounded good elsewhere may not sound good here.

      Look, with spinning it is a TON of work to get it right. I've been spinning for 10 years before anyone ever heard of spinning. When people started selling tools it pissed me off, because I knew it was opening the door to abuse and Google's radar. The problem isn't spinning, it is bad spinning.

      Great spinning is hard work, and most people don't want hard work.

      I recently spent 4 days on this one piece, and it generated 800 pieces that are so unique, so well received, it was worth the effort. And the search engines LOVE them.
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      • Profile picture of the author seosoldier
        Originally Posted by pokerdawg View Post

        TBS is the best by far. I've tried the new Spinrewriter and had it do sentence rewrites. It doesn't really rewrite. It takes something like this:

        "However, this is an issue."

        And turns it into:

        {However, this is an issue.|This is an issue.}

        It will remove the "however" or "for example", and consider it a new spin. On a 14 word sentence, this isn't a spin, it is dropping a single word.

        It also turns: Jack and Jill

        into: {Jack and Jill|Jill and Jack}

        I've tried using the "automated" part of it on "highest" / "best" settings and ended up with a lot of bad combinations.

        My fav is using TBS as a word processor on steroids. I recently did a manual spin using TBS with sentence rewrites (6 of each sentence) and phrase spins (my choice on synonyms, not auto generated). The results are fantastic. Every spin is human readable and I'm getting amazingly good results using them.

        One tip with TBS - as you find your own spins that you like that you know you can reuse, add them to "My Favorites" (or something like that). It is a mini library of your own trusted spins. When you use them you will find it helps speed the process along, as you are using your own combinations. Word of caution: proof read anyway. A combo that sounded good elsewhere may not sound good here.

        Look, with spinning it is a TON of work to get it right. I've been spinning for 10 years before anyone ever heard of spinning. When people started selling tools it pissed me off, because I knew it was opening the door to abuse and Google's radar. The problem isn't spinning, it is bad spinning.

        Great spinning is hard work, and most people don't want hard work.

        I recently spent 4 days on this one piece, and it generated 800 pieces that are so unique, so well received, it was worth the effort. And the search engines LOVE them.
        I basically agree with you. When I first bought Spin Rewriter everyone was raving about it so I tried it using their "Best" setting. It gave me utter garbage and I realized people were full of sh*t.

        To be fair an auto-spin with TBS also creates garbage.

        I too see spinning as a bad thing. It makes poorly written articles. Period.

        I have heard reports of a new change to SpinRewriter that makes it better. I haven't tried it yet. I am very skeptical. When I do try it I will post back here and give you my report.

        I think part of the problem is that a great majority of IMers (and people in general), don't know good English/grammar from bad English/grammar. It irritates the hell out of me every time I buy a WSO and read the report which reads like it is written by people who either didn't get a good education or were born and educated in a non-English speaking country. No one bothers proofreading either, apparently.

        So the only way to "spin" is to REWRITE, to methodically choose the synonyms that you think will work, and then carefully proofread and edit each resulting spin to see if it actually is written well (and usually it is not and has to be manually edited to correct the grammar or just make it more readable).

        Both tools - The Spin Rewriter and the Best Spinner - are good tools to do manual rewriting with but it takes time and work and careful editing/rewriting.

        Soon my membership on both is expiring and I will have to choose which one to cancel and which one to renew. At this point I am leaning towards keeping TBS because I like its interface better, but I need to use the SR again to see if it has improved since I last used it, before I make my decision.
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  • Profile picture of the author Elfen Lied
    TBS by far, find an affiliate and get that shit for $47 for the year, takes me about 5 seconds to spin an article, super easy to use
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    • Profile picture of the author Mkcoy
      Originally Posted by Elfen Lied View Post

      TBS by far, find an affiliate and get that shit for $47 for the year, takes me about 5 seconds to spin an article, super easy to use
      How you get it for that much? I think I'm paying $77 per year. I might have to cancel and start a new one if theres a bhw code or something?
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  • Profile picture of the author reihaan
    I have used spin re-writer, and wordAI spinners though I am satisfied with Spin ReWritter. I was also able to copypass my articles usine Spin Rewritter easily!
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  • Profile picture of the author Moneymaker2012
    softwares spin the articles,
    wait and see them cooking for you... tasteless food
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  • Profile picture of the author PaiRADice
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    • Profile picture of the author jadesource
      Hey Jacob--

      Will spinrewriter have the ability to compare articles like TBS so I can see if I spin and just want 20 versions I see what the uniqueness is?

      And, I often have 3 versions that I want to spin together sentence wise. I couldn't find how to do that in spin rewriter.

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  • Profile picture of the author Make Money Ninja
    Wordai turing spinner. Better than all 3 combined.

    That said, dont use it on important sites.
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  • Profile picture of the author dalegolden
    I have used Spinrewriter a few months and I must say it is way better than any other spinning software. You can get a good number of variations of an article.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    I've never used SpinnerChief so I won't comment on that one.

    Now..I've used Spin Rewriter and The Best Spinner. To tell you the truth you can't go wrong with either one. I would probably give Spin Rewriter the edge because I believe it's more user friendly and it's database of synonyms is a little larger. But both will get the job done.
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