Why people build backlinks from not relative websites?

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Hello!

Is it legit to build a backlink from "health" blog to "play piano" blog?

Thank you,
Zouras
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  • Profile picture of the author Dmarcotte
    That all depends on how energetically you are playing the piano
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  • Profile picture of the author CalinDan
    I guess that's what happens when spam goes wrong!
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  • Profile picture of the author trevord92
    If it's an in-context link about (say) the soothing effect of playing the piano then I'd say "yes".

    Or you could talk about the importance of posture when playing.

    In other words, with not too much effort you could make it more relevant.
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  • Profile picture of the author tyronne78
    It's good SEO practice to get backlinks from sites that are in the same niche that you are in. Contextual backlinks (backlinks in the body of the article) are the best ones to get from what I hear, but like they say a backlink is a backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author SEO Haven
    Originally Posted by zourkas View Post

    Hello!

    Is it legit to build a backlink from "health" blog to "play piano" blog?

    Thank you,
    Zouras
    Well, you CAN do that, but don't be surprised when your rankings drop/disappear..
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    • Profile picture of the author jakejoh10
      No.

      And also, building backlinks on relevant sites produces targeted traffic, instead of random traffic that is most likely not interested on what you are promoting on your site.

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  • Profile picture of the author Dariuszden
    People take things too literally. Just because it's good practice to have backlinks from niche sites it doesn't mean all of them have to be. I don't mean that you should spam every site you can, but just check the top rating sites in an opensiteexplorer (google it) and take on what sites they have backlinks. It might surprise you.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by zourkas View Post

    Why people build backlinks from not relative websites?
    They just aren't aware of the Penguin update, imagine that they'll benefit from mass, non-context-relevant links, find it cheap and quick and easy to get/buy them, and are oblivious to the risks (until the hammer drops).

    And they've been brought up on a diet of "information" from the Urban Myth School of Internet Marketing, constantly reinforced and propagated by people selling "backlink services", who fool many of them by talking nonsense about such concepts as "link diversity", even making some of them think that this is a good thing to do. :p :rolleyes:

    Many people believe everything they see in print, and it doesn't really occur to them that Google itself is a better source of information on this subject than "people selling cheap services". And some of the people selling cheap services exacerbate that, too, by telling them that "Google lies".

    Others, with some gullibility but entirely without malice, imagine and state that "Google's algorithms are a total mystery and nobody knows anything about SEO with certainty" (this is nonsense: the details of the algorithms themselves are indeed private, but Google consistently goes to huge lengths to give webmasters good, accurate and valid SEO advice!).

    Some people are just a little more discerning than others, try to assess information quality according to its source rather than believing it all unquestioningly, and have better judgment than others. That's about the size of it.
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  • Profile picture of the author mattlaclear
    We have found that you're safe if you have 30 - 50% of your backlinks coming from sites relevant to your own. I prefer to run campaigns that are up to 75% relevant myself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dariuszden
    Alexa, do you imply that getting unrelated links will right away bring a hammer?

    If that was so simple blackhatters would just post "unrelated" blacklinks to their competition sites and bring the "hammer" down on them. Think about it.

    Google algorithm are constantly changing and all we know is educated guesses of what helps and what doesn't rather than specifics.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Dariuszden View Post

      Alexa, do you imply that getting unrelated links will right away bring a hammer?
      No; I didn't suggest that at all.

      Originally Posted by Dariuszden View Post

      If that was so simple blackhatters would just post "unrelated" blacklinks to their competition sites and bring the "hammer" down on them.
      For the record, Darius, that's exactly what they do.

      Google has opened the door to "negative SEO".

      It's because of that that they've now had to introduce (on October 16th) the new "link disavowal system", to give webmasters some protection against this. See for yourself ...

      Official Google Webmaster Central Blog: A new tool to disavow links

      Originally Posted by Dariuszden View Post

      Think about it.
      I did, thanks.

      So did Google: they acknowledged this problem (which you say couldn't have arisen :rolleyes: ) and they did something about it.
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    • Originally Posted by Dariuszden View Post

      Alexa, do you imply that getting unrelated links will right away bring a hammer?

      If that was so simple blackhatters would just post "unrelated" blacklinks to their competition sites and bring the "hammer" down on them. Think about it.

      Google algorithm are constantly changing and all we know is educated guesses of what helps and what doesn't rather than specifics.
      I agree with you. If Google consider unrelated backlinks as spam them each competitor will start building unrelated backlinks to their competitors.

      So its not the case. Its true that unrelated backlinks doesn't get much value from Google. So its not help you either.
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  • Profile picture of the author jovykhan
    Backlink isn't just about relevancy but also authority. If unrelated link is coming from an authority site, like from news sites, then it is considered as a legit backlink.
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  • Profile picture of the author RyanEagle
    Yeah, be careful with this. Keep them relevant or at least somewhat relevant if you A) don't want to risk being dropped and B) want better traffic in the long run.
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  • Profile picture of the author jclindayag
    Hi zourkas!

    It is possible that the backlink from an unrelated niche could be indexed. Take note that a backlink is a backlink. Google spiderbots do not yet have the ability to identify the relatedness of the backlink from a particular niche.

    I know this seems to be spammy but most seo specialists get backlinks from unrelated sites because of the high pr that these sites have.

    However, it is not advisable to generate most of your backlinks from unrelated sites. Make an effort to post on related sites and have a conversation with the people having the same interest as you. In the long run, if you continue this kind of style, you will be an authority in your own niche. Therefore, clean tactics always get the benefit of the doubt.
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  • Profile picture of the author Anurag96
    If you want to build backlinks now than always build them from HIGH PR blogs in your niche, BY guest posting on HIGH PR blogs in your niche. These are two best and safest method to build backlinks now.
    And back links from a website which is outside your niche will do NO GOOD to your website that's what I have experienced.
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  • Profile picture of the author ilee
    My advice would be to make a page, or article regarding the health impacts of piano (I don't know... arthritis maybe? posture?) and then link to that article. That way it's a bit more relevant.

    If possible as well, have a few more articles and pages related to healthiness of a pianist, that way you can point links to those articles from a wider range of niches.

    Originally Posted by mattlaclear View Post

    We have found that you're safe if you have 30 - 50% of your backlinks coming from sites relevant to your own. I prefer to run campaigns that are up to 75% relevant myself.
    What if I have 29%? Am I doomed to fail? Never understand people that put numbers on SEO, they're unfounded and often just a wild estimate.

    Out of curiosity, what niche would you say wikipedia is in?

    To the OP, what I'm getting at is your niche can be as big or small as you make it, as long as the relevancy goes with the page which is still relevant to your niche, sort of like a buffer page to get links.
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  • Profile picture of the author gotlinks
    I think you should re-make the title to:

    "Why do stupid idiots who know nothing link from non relevant sites to eachother".

    And my answer would be, because they are stupid idiots that don't know any better or they think they know more then Google themselves or that they can GAIN something from low quality spam links.
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  • Profile picture of the author SerpPower
    i think there's 2 reasons:

    1- they want link diversity by making google think that their website is famous enough to get posted in non-related niche websites
    2-they are too f***n lazy to search for the same niche websites xD
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